Conservative Christians simply cannot get their heads around the fact rights are not matters of majority rule. It is never the job of the public schools, paid for with everyone's tax dollars, to backstop anyone's religion. The coach who sent these letters out, as well as the administration who approved them, need to be unemployed. I hope at least some of these wrestlers quit their teams.
If your church is incapable of offering charity with no strings attached, then it's not a very good church and you need to find a new one (or better yet, none at all).
If your public school's athletic program can't even manage to keep your student athletes fed and hydrated without a church stepping in to offer charity, then you need to ๐ด๐ต๐ฐ๐ฑ ๐ท๐ฐ๐ต๐ช๐ฏ๐จ ๐ง๐ฐ๐ณ ๐ฑ๐ฐ๐ญ๐ช๐ต๐ช๐ค๐ช๐ข๐ฏ๐ด ๐ธ๐ฉ๐ฐ ๐ณ๐ฆ๐ง๐ถ๐ด๐ฆ ๐ต๐ฐ ๐ข๐ฅ๐ฆ๐ฒ๐ถ๐ข๐ต๐ฆ๐ญ๐บ ๐ง๐ถ๐ฏ๐ฅ ๐บ๐ฐ๐ถ๐ณ ๐ฅ๐ข๐ฎ๐ฏ ๐ด๐ค๐ฉ๐ฐ๐ฐ๐ญ๐ด. Not that I'm naming names. ๐๐ญ๐ข๐ฃ๐ข๐ฎ๐ข.
What is it about separation of church state that is so hard to fathom? Itโs a really clear concept, yet god-botherers keep trying to sneak and lie their way past it at everyone elseโs expense. I really dislike sneaks and liars.
To all the regulars in the Friendly Atheist community, here's hoping you make it through the holidays without too much damage to your mental health. ;)
Religion IS part of the fabric of life for a vast majority of people on this Earth. But that fabric shouldn't be fashioned into a soft garrote to strangle every other aspect of daily life or of existence. If one believes that every second of every day should be spent contemplating whatever flavor of story of Sky Person and Their Directives, then join a cloister.
โโChurches are an essential part of the fabric of our communities across Alabama,โ Reed (R-Jasper) said in a statement to Yellowhammer News.โ
True, to an extent. And the essential part is waning.
โโEven more importantly, they are the means by which the Gospel is preached and places where we worship God.โโ
Thatโs only important if you choose to worship god or care about the gospel, which is the reason what the school is doing is wrong. The church is where preaching is supposed to happen not the public schools.
And just to clear things up, this is not charity. The churches are not participating in a charitable activity, this is more of a tit for tat situation. Itโs clearly indoctrination, if we want to avoid the incorrect use of grooming. Iโm sure the wrestlers could use those 15 minutes to practice, stop wasting childrenโs time by stepping on their constitutional rights.
OT- It will likely surprise nobody that Laura Ingraham, Fox News' #1 bleached-blonde bimbo, who once famously threw a Nazi salute on stage before passing it off with a smile and a wave... was raised by a Nazi-lover, according to her brother: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlkNkCliLPY
The short version: Ingraham's father kept a copy of Mein Kampf in the living room and frequently read to his children from it- and daughter dear has grown up to be ๐ฒ๐ถ๐ช๐ต๐ฆ the illustrious little Fuhrer's Girl.
Oh, and for bonus points, she's been a lifelong crusader against LGBTQ peoples' rights, even going so far as to run an outing sting against a campus Pride group waaaay back before she caught the attention of Murdoch's Madhouse... even though her own brother is gay (fortunately, ๐ฉ๐ฆ seems to be a decent human being, in spite of the family legacy). She's also one of the leading anti-immigrant voices in right-wing media... even though she has three adopted children who are, you guessed it, immigrants. Because ๐ฐ๐ง ๐ค๐ฐ๐ถ๐ณ๐ด๐ฆ she's as horrible to her family as she is to everyone else.
My children had enforced daily prayer in their elementary school in Tennessee. The principal was also a preacher and told me point blank, โMy children are going to learn to fear the lord!โ Yes, he said fear. Which doesnโt mesh well with the whole โGod is loveโ message. Anyway, I complained, became his bitter enemy, and was accused of sexually mistreating my own children (that investigation went on for years contrary to law). The practice continued until that principal retired.
Now I live in NYC. Originally assumed I would retire back to Tennessee but thatโs now no longer an option with how it has become a โChristianโ state. Itโs actually illegal for an atheist to hold public office โ which sure seems to violate the โreligious testโ restriction in the Constitution.
Etowah County is the same place where Roy Moore was a judge, illegally posting a copy of The Ten Commandments on the wall of his courtroom. Try to control your surprise and shock at that fact.
Sure, give 'em some snacks and water โ just don't do it while they're standing in line to vote on a sweltering hot day. THAT would be wicked! It would make Baby Jesus cry!
Conservative Christians simply cannot get their heads around the fact rights are not matters of majority rule. It is never the job of the public schools, paid for with everyone's tax dollars, to backstop anyone's religion. The coach who sent these letters out, as well as the administration who approved them, need to be unemployed. I hope at least some of these wrestlers quit their teams.
If your church is incapable of offering charity with no strings attached, then it's not a very good church and you need to find a new one (or better yet, none at all).
If your public school's athletic program can't even manage to keep your student athletes fed and hydrated without a church stepping in to offer charity, then you need to ๐ด๐ต๐ฐ๐ฑ ๐ท๐ฐ๐ต๐ช๐ฏ๐จ ๐ง๐ฐ๐ณ ๐ฑ๐ฐ๐ญ๐ช๐ต๐ช๐ค๐ช๐ข๐ฏ๐ด ๐ธ๐ฉ๐ฐ ๐ณ๐ฆ๐ง๐ถ๐ด๐ฆ ๐ต๐ฐ ๐ข๐ฅ๐ฆ๐ฒ๐ถ๐ข๐ต๐ฆ๐ญ๐บ ๐ง๐ถ๐ฏ๐ฅ ๐บ๐ฐ๐ถ๐ณ ๐ฅ๐ข๐ฎ๐ฏ ๐ด๐ค๐ฉ๐ฐ๐ฐ๐ญ๐ด. Not that I'm naming names. ๐๐ญ๐ข๐ฃ๐ข๐ฎ๐ข.
What is it about separation of church state that is so hard to fathom? Itโs a really clear concept, yet god-botherers keep trying to sneak and lie their way past it at everyone elseโs expense. I really dislike sneaks and liars.
To all the regulars in the Friendly Atheist community, here's hoping you make it through the holidays without too much damage to your mental health. ;)
Religion IS part of the fabric of life for a vast majority of people on this Earth. But that fabric shouldn't be fashioned into a soft garrote to strangle every other aspect of daily life or of existence. If one believes that every second of every day should be spent contemplating whatever flavor of story of Sky Person and Their Directives, then join a cloister.
Pay to Pray!
This is awesome. Hereโs my donation. Get ready kids. I have a lot of ideas Iโm excited to share with you today.
โโChurches are an essential part of the fabric of our communities across Alabama,โ Reed (R-Jasper) said in a statement to Yellowhammer News.โ
True, to an extent. And the essential part is waning.
โโEven more importantly, they are the means by which the Gospel is preached and places where we worship God.โโ
Thatโs only important if you choose to worship god or care about the gospel, which is the reason what the school is doing is wrong. The church is where preaching is supposed to happen not the public schools.
And just to clear things up, this is not charity. The churches are not participating in a charitable activity, this is more of a tit for tat situation. Itโs clearly indoctrination, if we want to avoid the incorrect use of grooming. Iโm sure the wrestlers could use those 15 minutes to practice, stop wasting childrenโs time by stepping on their constitutional rights.
"...๐๐ก ๐ โ๐๐ข๐๐ ๐๐๐ก ๐๐ ๐๐๐ก๐๐๐๐ข๐๐ก๐๐ ๐๐ฆ ๐๐ข๐ก-๐๐-๐ ๐ก๐๐ก๐ ๐๐๐๐ข๐๐ ๐ก๐๐ฆ๐๐๐ ๐ก๐ ๐๐ข๐ โ ๐๐๐๐กโ ๐๐ข๐ก ๐๐ ๐๐ข๐ ๐๐๐ฃ๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐ฃ๐๐ ๐๐ ๐๐ข๐ ๐โ๐๐๐๐๐๐.โ
No one is trying to do that. FFRF is just trying to make sure that the children who do not already
have faith in their lives aren't having it forced on them.
Tax all churches including taxes they have avoided for the last 250 years. Should help overcome our budget โcrisisโ in Washington, yea?
"Even more importantly, they are the means by which the Gospel is preached and places where we worship God."
The nogood senator recognise it himself. Churches, NOT schools, are the place to indoctrinate and brainwash.
"This week we are celebrating the birth of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ."
And Attis, Horus, Khrishna...
OT- It will likely surprise nobody that Laura Ingraham, Fox News' #1 bleached-blonde bimbo, who once famously threw a Nazi salute on stage before passing it off with a smile and a wave... was raised by a Nazi-lover, according to her brother: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlkNkCliLPY
The short version: Ingraham's father kept a copy of Mein Kampf in the living room and frequently read to his children from it- and daughter dear has grown up to be ๐ฒ๐ถ๐ช๐ต๐ฆ the illustrious little Fuhrer's Girl.
Oh, and for bonus points, she's been a lifelong crusader against LGBTQ peoples' rights, even going so far as to run an outing sting against a campus Pride group waaaay back before she caught the attention of Murdoch's Madhouse... even though her own brother is gay (fortunately, ๐ฉ๐ฆ seems to be a decent human being, in spite of the family legacy). She's also one of the leading anti-immigrant voices in right-wing media... even though she has three adopted children who are, you guessed it, immigrants. Because ๐ฐ๐ง ๐ค๐ฐ๐ถ๐ณ๐ด๐ฆ she's as horrible to her family as she is to everyone else.
My children had enforced daily prayer in their elementary school in Tennessee. The principal was also a preacher and told me point blank, โMy children are going to learn to fear the lord!โ Yes, he said fear. Which doesnโt mesh well with the whole โGod is loveโ message. Anyway, I complained, became his bitter enemy, and was accused of sexually mistreating my own children (that investigation went on for years contrary to law). The practice continued until that principal retired.
Now I live in NYC. Originally assumed I would retire back to Tennessee but thatโs now no longer an option with how it has become a โChristianโ state. Itโs actually illegal for an atheist to hold public office โ which sure seems to violate the โreligious testโ restriction in the Constitution.
Etowah County is the same place where Roy Moore was a judge, illegally posting a copy of The Ten Commandments on the wall of his courtroom. Try to control your surprise and shock at that fact.
Sure, give 'em some snacks and water โ just don't do it while they're standing in line to vote on a sweltering hot day. THAT would be wicked! It would make Baby Jesus cry!
6 cases of water and 4 pks of 24 granola bars, the price of 30 pieces of silver.
No quid pro quo! It was a perfect letter!