Good that the school moved to a secular venue but as someone who went to schools who don't hold graduation ceremonies the sheer amount of money spent on it when public schools lack funding is incomprehensible.
Good for this young man. I will never understand why people delegate their thinking to anyone, let alone a homophobic mega-church. Churches like this don't welcome everyone so much as they welcome their money. Mega churches would be more aptly named, major league grifting.
We then carefully explain how you will be going to hell and doing whatever we can to make your life as difficult, dangerous, expensive, and unpleasant as possible. But really, we welcome everyone. we don't care if you're divorced.
We also don't care about supporting our community through providing our building at a vastly reduced rate, not the standard rate recharge everyone. Because this really is about money, isn't it??
Who said, it is easier for a Camel to enter the eye of a needle than it is for a rich church to enter the kingdom of heaven?
For those who are following the attempted book banning and threatened closure of a library in Dayton, WA: Rejoice. A judge has shut down that attempted closure bid and that sole library in Columbia County will remain open, those books still available.
Saw this on the front page of my newspaper this morning. Made my coffee taste extra good.
Well, where is the high school ceremony going to happen? It not like the high school has a large open area with bleacher seating already in place like say a high school football field or a high school gym.
The petition also cites “crime statistics” in support of staying in the suburbs without any further details. (Guess what? If you’re worried about a carjacking, you can take the district-provided shuttle.)
I don't think 'carjacking' is the issue, it's that they might actually see - maybe even be *exposed to* - Brown People. (Ya sure, you betcha!)
It would have been nice if the petition alone had prompted the school district to change the venue, but pretty clearly it was the threat of a lawsuit that turned the trick.
I left a single comment to DG about his take on LGBTQs and how this church was like Auschwitz to Jews. I had to point out some realities to him about gays, Nazis and death camps and how those Nazis were devout Catholics and Lutherans. As expected, he stated "But, I would not agree that all the Nazis were necessarily devout."
Why am I not surprised? The Nazi leadership was very devout and said so. They despised atheists. Here's what Himmler, the head honcho of the SS and the camps had to say:
"We believe in a God Almighty who stands above us; He created the Earth, the Fatherland, the Volk, and he has sent us the Fuhrer. Any human being who does not believe in God should be considered arrogant, megalomaniacal, and stupid and thus not suited for the SS."
Hitler fought against atheism and believed he had stamped it out in Germany. The Nazis not devout? Where is he getting his information from? Christian apologist sources don't quite cut it. Goebbels was the only Nazi excommunicated by the RCC. Why? He married a Protestant, nothing more.
I was sent to Catholic School - kindergarten through h.s. graduation. Sigh. Well, the religion part didn't take, and my parents didn't care about that, so no pressure. However, my h.s. graduation was held in a large church. I was just grateful that they didn't include a Mass in the ceremony!!!
Even though Grace Church does not proselytize during the graduation event and they remove or conceal as much of the religious paraphernalia as they can, the air conditioning cannot remove the FOUL STENCH OF HATEFUL, IGNORANT BIGOTRY that is cooked up for the crowd in that building all the rest of the year. The place is a prejudice factory, and using it as a graduation venue is an insult to any student who doesn't share those prejudices, and hurtful to any student who is a victim of those prejudices. I applaud Eli Frost's courage, integrity, and tenacity.
Just waiting for Matt staver or Larry klayman to hear about this and have a tantrum over their FURST AMMENDMUNT FREEDUM OF RELIGION rights being infringed.
Prove it. Christian churches where I live hang huge LGBTQ flags on the fronts of their churches. Do that, and you might just have some legitimacy to your claim.
“… although Grace Church does "affirm the teaching of the Bible regarding gender, marriage, and divorce," it does not discriminate against anyone.
"We welcome everyone," he wrote.”
We welcome them so we can change everything about them by making them ashamed of their inherent qualities and differences. Giving them clinical depression and possibly PTSD with the tactics we use to make their lives miserable.
Good that the school moved to a secular venue but as someone who went to schools who don't hold graduation ceremonies the sheer amount of money spent on it when public schools lack funding is incomprehensible.
Good for this young man. I will never understand why people delegate their thinking to anyone, let alone a homophobic mega-church. Churches like this don't welcome everyone so much as they welcome their money. Mega churches would be more aptly named, major league grifting.
We welcome everyone...
Absolutely.
We then carefully explain how you will be going to hell and doing whatever we can to make your life as difficult, dangerous, expensive, and unpleasant as possible. But really, we welcome everyone. we don't care if you're divorced.
We also don't care about supporting our community through providing our building at a vastly reduced rate, not the standard rate recharge everyone. Because this really is about money, isn't it??
Who said, it is easier for a Camel to enter the eye of a needle than it is for a rich church to enter the kingdom of heaven?
No one important to modern Christianity.
𝑇ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑐ℎ𝑜𝑜𝑙 𝑑𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑟𝑖𝑐𝑡 𝑟𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑒𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑝𝑎𝑐𝑒 𝑓𝑜𝑟 𝑎𝑏𝑜𝑢𝑡 $28,000 𝑒𝑎𝑐ℎ 𝑦𝑒𝑎𝑟—𝑖𝑛𝑐𝑙𝑢𝑑𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑠𝑒𝑐𝑢𝑟𝑖𝑡𝑦 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑡𝑟𝑎𝑓𝑓𝑖𝑐 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑡𝑟𝑜𝑙 𝑐𝑜𝑠𝑡𝑠—𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑖𝑡 𝑤𝑎𝑠 𝑠𝑡𝑟𝑖𝑐𝑡𝑙𝑦 𝑏𝑢𝑠𝑖𝑛𝑒𝑠𝑠.
At least they are open about the grift being a grift.
OT
For those who are following the attempted book banning and threatened closure of a library in Dayton, WA: Rejoice. A judge has shut down that attempted closure bid and that sole library in Columbia County will remain open, those books still available.
Saw this on the front page of my newspaper this morning. Made my coffee taste extra good.
"We welcome everyone" The motherfucker probably believes that shit.
We welcome everyone,.... **taps the collection plate.**
Well, where is the high school ceremony going to happen? It not like the high school has a large open area with bleacher seating already in place like say a high school football field or a high school gym.
The petition also cites “crime statistics” in support of staying in the suburbs without any further details. (Guess what? If you’re worried about a carjacking, you can take the district-provided shuttle.)
I don't think 'carjacking' is the issue, it's that they might actually see - maybe even be *exposed to* - Brown People. (Ya sure, you betcha!)
It would have been nice if the petition alone had prompted the school district to change the venue, but pretty clearly it was the threat of a lawsuit that turned the trick.
I left a single comment to DG about his take on LGBTQs and how this church was like Auschwitz to Jews. I had to point out some realities to him about gays, Nazis and death camps and how those Nazis were devout Catholics and Lutherans. As expected, he stated "But, I would not agree that all the Nazis were necessarily devout."
Why am I not surprised? The Nazi leadership was very devout and said so. They despised atheists. Here's what Himmler, the head honcho of the SS and the camps had to say:
"We believe in a God Almighty who stands above us; He created the Earth, the Fatherland, the Volk, and he has sent us the Fuhrer. Any human being who does not believe in God should be considered arrogant, megalomaniacal, and stupid and thus not suited for the SS."
Hitler fought against atheism and believed he had stamped it out in Germany. The Nazis not devout? Where is he getting his information from? Christian apologist sources don't quite cut it. Goebbels was the only Nazi excommunicated by the RCC. Why? He married a Protestant, nothing more.
I was sent to Catholic School - kindergarten through h.s. graduation. Sigh. Well, the religion part didn't take, and my parents didn't care about that, so no pressure. However, my h.s. graduation was held in a large church. I was just grateful that they didn't include a Mass in the ceremony!!!
Even though Grace Church does not proselytize during the graduation event and they remove or conceal as much of the religious paraphernalia as they can, the air conditioning cannot remove the FOUL STENCH OF HATEFUL, IGNORANT BIGOTRY that is cooked up for the crowd in that building all the rest of the year. The place is a prejudice factory, and using it as a graduation venue is an insult to any student who doesn't share those prejudices, and hurtful to any student who is a victim of those prejudices. I applaud Eli Frost's courage, integrity, and tenacity.
Just waiting for Matt staver or Larry klayman to hear about this and have a tantrum over their FURST AMMENDMUNT FREEDUM OF RELIGION rights being infringed.
"We welcome everyone."
Prove it. Christian churches where I live hang huge LGBTQ flags on the fronts of their churches. Do that, and you might just have some legitimacy to your claim.
“… although Grace Church does "affirm the teaching of the Bible regarding gender, marriage, and divorce," it does not discriminate against anyone.
"We welcome everyone," he wrote.”
We welcome them so we can change everything about them by making them ashamed of their inherent qualities and differences. Giving them clinical depression and possibly PTSD with the tactics we use to make their lives miserable.
…And their money is also green.