I hope that the FFRF or a similar organization will contact the committee to let them know in advance that they will sue on behalf the Satanic Temple/Muslims/Jews/Fringe groups if Idaho attempts to block these groups from gaining access to the same funds, since it would (should) be very hard to make such a block stick legally. That would REALLY put a spoke in their wheel.
Edit: And can I add just how disgusting it is that they're balking the second they realize other religions would be benefiting? I mean, one, were they really stupid enough to not predict this in advance, and, two, can you make the Christian bigotry any more obvious than this?
OT: I'm currently sitting in the Iowa Capitol waiting to testify in opposition to a bill being pushed by the Iowa Nazi Party (formerly GOP) that would eliminate gender identity from our Civil Rights statutes.
The people who continue to try and force religion into the public schools, paid for with everyone's tax dollars, tend not to recognize the rights of any religion but their own. Without intending to they demonstrate why the founders were very wise when the kept religion and government separate.
244 years ago, Benjamin Franklin rightly noted that any religion which could not support itself and whose god did not support it so that those religions cried out to the government for money to support it was a bad religion.
And since TST didn't exist at the time, it isn't hard to conceive which religion Franklin was referring to as bad.
"Rep. Joe Palmer, R-Meridian, who made the motion to hold the legislation, said he supported it but had 'technical questions' that he couldn’t’ get answers to at the moment."
Technical question like, "How can we stick it to everyone but Christianity? How to formulate the appropriate word salads?"
“You don’t have to be a lawyer to realize that a group being considered a “fringe” religion would never pass strict scrutiny.”
Actually it’s the state that would have to pass the strict scrutiny standard for engaging in religious discrimination, which is why they’re so nervous about the ability of non-Christians to access the state moneys.
What they want is to abandon funding public schools and brainwash the children into MAGA white Evangelicalism, so they can perpetuate their power and their hierarchies forever.
Because they tried to compete in the marketplace of ideas and have failed utterly because their ideas are awful and make people awful.
Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander, fellas. If you want public funds to support Christian churches, you had better be prepared for similar funds to be permissible for Jewish synagogues, Islamic temples, and , yes, Satanic organizations. Oh, and if you want to omit that last because of some "compelling interest," know that such an assertion will be open to scrutiny.
Also, be aware: you don't get to ban something just because you don't like it.
Does this surprise anyone coming from a state where it is legal for parents to kill their kids, as long as, it is by denying them actual medical care and just hoping really hard that the illness will go away on its own?
I can’t believe those legislators did not see the potential blowback for this, be it TST, FFRF or any other person or organization. I guess they were counting on god to foil the attempt. Maybe he’s too busy laughing. I know I am.
[squeals of joy] It's one of my [squeeee] favorite feelings to experience [squeee squeee]! The utter [sque] joy [sque] of [sque] watching a grown man drown in his own hubris! [SQUEEEEEEEE]
Seriously, the problem with any partisan movement or ideal is its blindspots. Especially in this nation. Our blindspots have, still do, and will continue to relegate minorities to disadvantageous positions and see them as second class citizens for the foreseeable future even while touting the nation's supposed enlightenment. Now don't get me wrong, America is a great nation in many ways, in fact the border "crisis" is a great illustrator - lots and lots of people see this country as a haven, an opportunity, and a place to improve their own lives where they are willing to risk DEATH to be here. But that's not what I'm talking about. I'm taking about getting more [squuuuuueeeeeees] So keep it up supposedly serious people of God, you are hilarious.
The “strict scrutiny” rule? Good luck Idaho. If schools can’t keep a TST ASSC out without a new SCOTUS ruling, I have a hard time believing you are going to cut off funds to the TST for a school without a trip to SCOTUS.
Tax-payer money should not go to support any religious school or church. Yet, if it changes then all religions/spiritual organizations must receive the same support.
"Either that’s brilliant trolling or an incredible plan for the future."
Both. It can be both.
I hope that the FFRF or a similar organization will contact the committee to let them know in advance that they will sue on behalf the Satanic Temple/Muslims/Jews/Fringe groups if Idaho attempts to block these groups from gaining access to the same funds, since it would (should) be very hard to make such a block stick legally. That would REALLY put a spoke in their wheel.
Edit: And can I add just how disgusting it is that they're balking the second they realize other religions would be benefiting? I mean, one, were they really stupid enough to not predict this in advance, and, two, can you make the Christian bigotry any more obvious than this?
OT: I'm currently sitting in the Iowa Capitol waiting to testify in opposition to a bill being pushed by the Iowa Nazi Party (formerly GOP) that would eliminate gender identity from our Civil Rights statutes.
I'd rather be cooking, but I'm required here.
I hate Iowa Nazis.
The people who continue to try and force religion into the public schools, paid for with everyone's tax dollars, tend not to recognize the rights of any religion but their own. Without intending to they demonstrate why the founders were very wise when the kept religion and government separate.
244 years ago, Benjamin Franklin rightly noted that any religion which could not support itself and whose god did not support it so that those religions cried out to the government for money to support it was a bad religion.
And since TST didn't exist at the time, it isn't hard to conceive which religion Franklin was referring to as bad.
"Rep. Joe Palmer, R-Meridian, who made the motion to hold the legislation, said he supported it but had 'technical questions' that he couldn’t’ get answers to at the moment."
Technical question like, "How can we stick it to everyone but Christianity? How to formulate the appropriate word salads?"
“You don’t have to be a lawyer to realize that a group being considered a “fringe” religion would never pass strict scrutiny.”
Actually it’s the state that would have to pass the strict scrutiny standard for engaging in religious discrimination, which is why they’re so nervous about the ability of non-Christians to access the state moneys.
What they want is to abandon funding public schools and brainwash the children into MAGA white Evangelicalism, so they can perpetuate their power and their hierarchies forever.
Because they tried to compete in the marketplace of ideas and have failed utterly because their ideas are awful and make people awful.
Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander, fellas. If you want public funds to support Christian churches, you had better be prepared for similar funds to be permissible for Jewish synagogues, Islamic temples, and , yes, Satanic organizations. Oh, and if you want to omit that last because of some "compelling interest," know that such an assertion will be open to scrutiny.
Also, be aware: you don't get to ban something just because you don't like it.
They really made it obvious that they intended this to solely benefit Christian schools.
Fringe religious beliefs; like unborn children and virgin mothers?
Does this surprise anyone coming from a state where it is legal for parents to kill their kids, as long as, it is by denying them actual medical care and just hoping really hard that the illness will go away on its own?
I can’t believe those legislators did not see the potential blowback for this, be it TST, FFRF or any other person or organization. I guess they were counting on god to foil the attempt. Maybe he’s too busy laughing. I know I am.
[squeals of joy] It's one of my [squeeee] favorite feelings to experience [squeee squeee]! The utter [sque] joy [sque] of [sque] watching a grown man drown in his own hubris! [SQUEEEEEEEE]
Seriously, the problem with any partisan movement or ideal is its blindspots. Especially in this nation. Our blindspots have, still do, and will continue to relegate minorities to disadvantageous positions and see them as second class citizens for the foreseeable future even while touting the nation's supposed enlightenment. Now don't get me wrong, America is a great nation in many ways, in fact the border "crisis" is a great illustrator - lots and lots of people see this country as a haven, an opportunity, and a place to improve their own lives where they are willing to risk DEATH to be here. But that's not what I'm talking about. I'm taking about getting more [squuuuuueeeeeees] So keep it up supposedly serious people of God, you are hilarious.
The “strict scrutiny” rule? Good luck Idaho. If schools can’t keep a TST ASSC out without a new SCOTUS ruling, I have a hard time believing you are going to cut off funds to the TST for a school without a trip to SCOTUS.
Tax-payer money should not go to support any religious school or church. Yet, if it changes then all religions/spiritual organizations must receive the same support.