If Donald Trump is a man of faith, then he demonstrates the disconnect between religion and morality about as well as it can be done. When you look back all the horrors perpetrated in the name of faith, it is beyond me how people can see faith as a virtue. The Twin Towers were taken down in the name of faith.
Then how can anyone say if another person isn't a member of a given faith? All we have to go on is what the person says they are and there's no way to prove otherwise.
"Trump, on the other hand, is a thrice-married racist who paid hush money to porn stars he was having affairs with when his current wife was pregnant with his fifth child. A sexual abuser. "
The right wing base sure do revel in their gullibility and ignorance, don’t they.
Here’s the thing, Trump is a person of faith because he supports the same cruel positions they hold dear, and on the same token, Biden is not a person of faith because his policies (some of them anyway, he was an author of some of the racism in the 90’s, some of which he’s walked back and remedied) are empathetic or kind to “the others”. So this survey illustrates the type of acceptable faith this population of Americans value. Even though I called them gullible and stupid, it is more about their lack of empathy or any sort of kindness than brains. They liked Trump from the beginning because he said a lot of cruel, hurtful and bigoted things and when he did harmful, cruel and bigoted things in office they ignored the harmful, cruel and bigoted things he did to them because they wanted those other things to happen to others. And because he validated their own cruel, hurtful, bigoted feelings.
I get down when I think about this group of assholes, but I have to tell myself they really are the minority and the youth are leaning toward kindness and tolerance. We need to keep cultivating that in our youth, but that is why so many folks like yesterday’s school board members are fighting so hard to become school board members and local, state and federal officials.
They may be a minority, but they're not a small one. Biden and Trump are running neck and neck in the polls. Be afraid. There's a perfectly sound reason why much of the world regards America and its citizens with contempt and trepidation. "Shining beacon on a hill," my ass.
Well, “hill” is ambiguous. Sure, it could be hundreds of feet high with a lighthouse precariously balanced on a rock outcropping and bravely staffed 24/7 by people dedicated to the safety of complete strangers they may never meet. Or it could be a centimeter tall and be the detritus of ants mindlessly excavating a nest.
Disagree. "Person of faith" to me comes down to "believes in the articles of the faith." Biden believes in Catholicism's creeds and God. Trump, as far as I can tell, mouths the words when it is convenient.
You seem to be linking 'faith' to 'cruel positions,' but where does that put the religious people who run soup kitchens, care for the poor, etc. As I understand your use of the term 'person of faith', they would not be people of faith? A lot of the kind tolerant youth you espouse believe in God and go to church. They're not people of faith? Jimmy Carter and MLK weren't people of faith?
No, the people that are claiming Trump is a person of faith but Biden is not, value the cruel aspects of their faith. The folks who run soup kitchens and such, value the empathy aspects of their faith. I wasn’t saying anything about all of Christianity, I was talking about specifically the people cited in this survey. Just as they accept that Ramaswami is a person of faith without being Christian, because he’s also promoting the cruel policies they like.
I don’t say anyone who believes they are a person of faith isn’t a person of faith, I personally don’t value being a person of faith, it’s not a quality I admire, even if those people of faith do great things in the name of their faith. MLK did great things, I admire those things, the faith part is only relevant to me as one of the influences in his life. That goes for Carter and soup kitchen workers and the youth. I find that folks like that claim the religion is their inspiration, but that’s only because they ignore the other influences that led them to the kind aspects of the religion. Just as the assholes had influences that lead them to the hateful parts of religion.
I also don’t buy into any altruistic religious good activities. Soup kitchens (and other types of economic relief organizations) often require prayers and have expectations of piety as an exchange for the food. MLK had scandals. Carter did call out his religion publicly for its poor behavior and I won’t say I’m aware of anything bad about him, but I truly don’t attribute all his good to his religion, more like in spite of it.
"Just as they accept that Ramaswami is a person of faith without being Christian, because he’s also promoting the cruel policies they like."
But they DON'T count Ramaswamy as a person of faith. The poll number was 30%! So it seems cruel policies /= person of faith, not even for conservatives. You gotta have the right skin tone or pay lip service to the right faith before you'll be considered a person of faith.
Agent Orange doesn't want to be a President. He doesn't want to be a dictator. He doesn't want to be a king, or an emperor.
Donald Trump wants to be a Pharaoh.
He wants to be a god-king, a living god on Earth. He doesn't just want to be obeyed, he wants to be worshipped as divine.
And his gun-and-Bible devotees already do. They don't think of him as a "man of faith," He's THE faith. Many already openly compare him to a Messiah, and they won't stop there. They want to call him God, and they'll do whatever their god orders them to do.
Mixed feelings, here. She should have retired- and not just when her most recent health troubles began. Seats in government are not meant to be personal fiefdoms, only transferable upon your death. There comes a time to pass the torch, and her time to do that came and went twenty years ago.
Even though she was a democrat, she still hindered progress. Especially the last couple years while she was incapacitated but refusing to retire. McConnell is doing it to the GOP, but they like it that way, interfering in progress. His taking up space helps them with their agenda.
Yyyyup. We desperately need age and term limits in our government, especially at the federal level. Where to set them is a valid subject for debate, but I think the case for having them has been well and truly settled.
Barring that, politicians should be required to take periodic competency tests. Older citizens have to retake their drivers tests every so often in many places, to demonstrate that they're still competent and won't cause serious harm to the public, and I can't see any reason why politicians shouldn't have to do the same. Problem is, getting either measure passed would require a majority of politicians. As always, there's only one catch, and that's Catch-22.
This is not something some rule is going to be good at fixing. We need to fix ourselves (i.e. not be so willing to vote for incumbents or party for party's sake), and we need to fix our parties (being more open to primary challenges to sitting representatives).
As long as we're stuck with only two parties, we're stuck, period. Like the Democrats? Fine, vote them in. Disillusioned with them, good, go for the Republicans. Don't like what they do? No place to go but back to the Democrats, who disillusioned you in the first place. It's all just huge ping-pong game (or rabbit season/duck season), with the inevitable result being stasis, stasis, and more stasis. True democracies have more than two parties, for reasons that must be obvious to anyone who thinks about it seriously.
Unfortunately, we have the Constitution we have, and I'm even more scared of a Constitutional Convention than I am of a two-party system. After the civil war/revolution maybe we can write a new one for *𝑶𝑵𝑬* nation instead of a confederation of 50 states with way too much power inside their borders.
I'm not sure I like term limits, but I do think a mandatory retirement age is appropriate. There comes a point when Gen X, Millennials, and Gen Z should get a place at the table.
I mean look at poor Chuck, had to wait until his 70s to wear the crown.
“The only reason anyone would seriously think he’s a person of faith is because Trump just tells people he is. They believe the lie. They buy into the pandering. Or else they think installing right-wing justices on the Supreme Court for political reasons is the equivalent of accepting the divinity of Christ.”
The answer is simple. These same people believe Trump is a self made billionaire; a great businessman; J6th was just another tourist day at the Capitol; Biden is an illegitimate president; Santa Clause is real and democrats are the devil.
It’s not hard to understand why the evangelicals would support Trump faithfully. Their ministers are prosperity ministries, so they’re used to being fleeced as part of the flock.
And we all know that Pence is a man of faith. So much so, they he threw his Christian credentials to a man who is thrice married and cheated on all three of his wife’s, including Melania when she was pregnant. Not to mention, he stood back and stood by when the Access Hollywood tape came out. You remember, “I can grab her by the p.....”.
Or how Pence said nothing for three years after J6th, until, of course he decided to run for president.
Yup, these evangelicals are true adherents to Jesus. Didn’t Jesus say, “beware of false prophets? In Trump’s case, they hit the twofer: a gilded, false prophet!
I’m positive God warned Moses about the Israelites idolizing false golden gods: the golden calf, comes to mind.
How do you know he's lying? Sure he lies a lot but that doesn't mean he's lying about that. He sure acts like a bunch of Christians who we've seen here.
Those conservatives seem to be unaware that Roddenberry was an atheist who had nothing good to say about religion. He also found the Christian god a poor excuse for a supreme being.
Did they watch Star Trek: The Next Generation? Its captain (played by an atheist) took shots at religion. Star Trek: Deep Space 9 took shots at religion. Conservatives really don't do their homework.
Now that I got through MASH, we are rewatching The Orville as a mindless mood cleanser before bed. I hope there’s another season after the strike is settled.
Neither Disney nor Hulu have renewed the show for a 4th season, so it's unclear whether it will go on.
(Disney IS in talks with Seth about continuing, though the writer/actor strike may have put things off and we won't get an update until after negotiations with the actors have been settled)
Thank you, good to know. I agree, these people are scary. They are ruthless, relentless and convinced their way of life is the true way, and the rest of us must submit to their parochial ideology or we are satan’s spawn!...:)
"Delusional" is the word for it, though I'm not certain that it's strong enough. Then, too, evangelicals delude themselves into at least claiming to believe that every word of the bible is true, and that's a leap I doubt even Carl Lewis could make.
Here's another point, though: Trump has made a point of LOOKING as though he's a person of faith, what with those interviews about his favorite bible verse, the quip about "2 Corinthians" and that disastrous stroll out to the church, where he held a bible UPSIDE-DOWN. I note that Joe Biden is clearly a religious man, though he makes far less a public point of it than Trump does, and I think that's very telling. Those who are confident and comfortable in whatever beliefs they may have may tend to be less outre about them. Personally, I think Trump's religious expressions are far more about PANDERING to religious voters than anything else.
Because I think Trump is about as genuinely religious as the proverbial hole in the equally proverbial head.
Whether or not Chump himself is a true believer has become pretty much irrelevant. His followers are true believers (whether in Christianity or in him makes no difference), and he's weaponized their faith against the rest of us. It doesn't matter what he believes inwardly, it matters what he says and does. He says he's a Christian, and they accept him as a Christian- fine then, he's a Christian. He makes public displays of piety, which the religious people in his corner accept as such? Fine, he's pious. I don't care whether his beliefs are sincere if the rest of the monster acts like we'd expect a wannabe theocratic dictator to. Distinction without a difference.
We also have to make sure that Christians of tomorrow don't get away with pushing his legacy off their page of the history book, like they've attempted to do every other time they found themselves on the wrong side and later regretted it. Chump's movement would not have been possible without the prevalence of Christianity in this country. It would not have been possible without the conflation of religiosity with moral character, and of blind faith with hard evidence.
I have looked at a few photographs of Trump's activity with a Bible and can see no evidence that it was upside-down. May I humbly claim a working life-time of experience with books of all kinds. Further, Snopes agrees with me.
There's something about the clumsy, awkward way he handles it that makes you feel like it must be upside down. That slimy smirk on his face lets you know that he doesn't give a shit whether it's upside down or backwards as long as he gets his picture taken.
I have also met lots of people who handle books in a clumsy, awkward manner and looked pleased with themselves (though not slimily) as they did so. Of course, they were nearly all under five years old and this counted as a major step in their education and they went on to greater achievements. That's where the similarity ends.
Incidentally, I really like "awkward"; it even looks awkward.
Here it is: proof that the religion they practice is closer to the religion of money, power and influence that Trump practices than the religion of Jesus.
Anyone shocked by this? Anyone at all? This story's all over the 'Net. Meanwhile, there's a devastating government shutdown looming. Where's the GOPs action on THAT?
Inaction? AIUI (and given their track record, am pretty certain in that understanding), they are actively causing it. Demanding things that 1) have nothing to do with the budget. 2) Actively harm the country and they know that.
There really should be a requirement that any and all proposed amendments to a given bill must have some obvious connection to it. But of course that would limit their goddamned privileges, so it ain't ever gonna happen.
We, of course, can say the same about Donald Trump and his namesake son.
Except Trump has committed real crimes and has been impeached. Twice. And Junior had a significant role in illegally trying to overturn the 2020 election. Then there's the whole fraud thing about his misusing his daddy's inaugural funds.
"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law---a man's enemies will be members of his own household. Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me." -- Matthew 10:34-37
Donald Trump is a Juche, like his buddy in North Korea.
Juche transfers worship of a deity to worship of the country's leader. It's a man-centered ideology where (and I quote) "man is the master of everything and decides everything."
So you haven't seen any Anastasia Blue vids (may she RIP). That woman would intentionally gag herself during oral. Hell, in one scene, she is doing that on a guy; suddenly, she stops and runs out through a sliding glass door into the backyard, where she barfs. Then she comes back in and goes right back to it! 😲
“The negative relation was established for western societies. We don’t know whether it generalizes to other populations, particularly those in the Far East,” Zuckerman explained.
Trans. Please may I have more money for another survey.
"Pastors across the country should be ashamed of themselves."
If they were capable of being ashamed of themselves, the wouldn't be pastors.
And these pastors are Christian too. So why is it a stretch to believe Trump is one?
Some of us are former pastors ...
And the former pastors I know are great people.
World's Most Useless Occupation: Pastor, Priest, Imam and Rabbi (#2: Wall Street Analyst)
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If Donald Trump is a man of faith, then he demonstrates the disconnect between religion and morality about as well as it can be done. When you look back all the horrors perpetrated in the name of faith, it is beyond me how people can see faith as a virtue. The Twin Towers were taken down in the name of faith.
Yes, but that wasn't the perfect faith. That was the other one.
If he’s a man of faith then I’m Nick Fury.
Then how can anyone say if another person isn't a member of a given faith? All we have to go on is what the person says they are and there's no way to prove otherwise.
Personally, I think there is a distinction between someone I would describe as a nominal (type of religion) and a 'person of faith'.
The key point being that the latter 0 again, strictly in my formulation - would actually live by the precepts of their professed religion.
I would argue Trump fails that test handily.
...and I'm just gonna leave the term 'handily' there, as it's apropos.
Small handily.
Bigly small.
glad I scrolled down first, I almost typed the exact same thing
"Whenever you read a good book, it's like the Literature is right there, in the room, talking to you, which is why I don't like to read good books."
Jack Handey
What evidence is there that Trump isn't a Christian? He lies about a lot of things, but that doesn't mean he's lying in this case.
Yeah, and Hitler played the harmonica for his dinner guests.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6ubiUIxbWE
Cathedrals aren’t an inarguable good. They are a vast waste of resources to project and protect the power of the church.
Many cathedrals were built on top of mosques and temples after the Crusades.
"Trump, on the other hand, is a thrice-married racist who paid hush money to porn stars he was having affairs with when his current wife was pregnant with his fifth child. A sexual abuser. "
Sounds like a man of faith to me.
Don't forget that Trump was anointed with "holy water" by Russian hookers. What could be more religious than that?
I hear that the holy water wasn't wholly water.
Some of it was lemonade.
I've heard of pink lemonade, but 𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘬 lemonade is taking the concept a bit far.
The holy water in Russia is always yellow *winkwink*
🤣
"Thank you for making me holy. And thank you for giving me holes to choose from"
Gold holy water...the best.
Everybody Get Your Trump Cards! https://sweatingthesmallstuff.substack.com/p/everybody-get-your-trump-cards
The right wing base sure do revel in their gullibility and ignorance, don’t they.
Here’s the thing, Trump is a person of faith because he supports the same cruel positions they hold dear, and on the same token, Biden is not a person of faith because his policies (some of them anyway, he was an author of some of the racism in the 90’s, some of which he’s walked back and remedied) are empathetic or kind to “the others”. So this survey illustrates the type of acceptable faith this population of Americans value. Even though I called them gullible and stupid, it is more about their lack of empathy or any sort of kindness than brains. They liked Trump from the beginning because he said a lot of cruel, hurtful and bigoted things and when he did harmful, cruel and bigoted things in office they ignored the harmful, cruel and bigoted things he did to them because they wanted those other things to happen to others. And because he validated their own cruel, hurtful, bigoted feelings.
I get down when I think about this group of assholes, but I have to tell myself they really are the minority and the youth are leaning toward kindness and tolerance. We need to keep cultivating that in our youth, but that is why so many folks like yesterday’s school board members are fighting so hard to become school board members and local, state and federal officials.
It’s still depressing but there’s some hope.
They may be a minority, but they're not a small one. Biden and Trump are running neck and neck in the polls. Be afraid. There's a perfectly sound reason why much of the world regards America and its citizens with contempt and trepidation. "Shining beacon on a hill," my ass.
Well, “hill” is ambiguous. Sure, it could be hundreds of feet high with a lighthouse precariously balanced on a rock outcropping and bravely staffed 24/7 by people dedicated to the safety of complete strangers they may never meet. Or it could be a centimeter tall and be the detritus of ants mindlessly excavating a nest.
With Murica's checkered history
With Murica's shameful history regarding Native Americans, it was never a beacon on a hill.
Disagree. "Person of faith" to me comes down to "believes in the articles of the faith." Biden believes in Catholicism's creeds and God. Trump, as far as I can tell, mouths the words when it is convenient.
You seem to be linking 'faith' to 'cruel positions,' but where does that put the religious people who run soup kitchens, care for the poor, etc. As I understand your use of the term 'person of faith', they would not be people of faith? A lot of the kind tolerant youth you espouse believe in God and go to church. They're not people of faith? Jimmy Carter and MLK weren't people of faith?
No, the people that are claiming Trump is a person of faith but Biden is not, value the cruel aspects of their faith. The folks who run soup kitchens and such, value the empathy aspects of their faith. I wasn’t saying anything about all of Christianity, I was talking about specifically the people cited in this survey. Just as they accept that Ramaswami is a person of faith without being Christian, because he’s also promoting the cruel policies they like.
I don’t say anyone who believes they are a person of faith isn’t a person of faith, I personally don’t value being a person of faith, it’s not a quality I admire, even if those people of faith do great things in the name of their faith. MLK did great things, I admire those things, the faith part is only relevant to me as one of the influences in his life. That goes for Carter and soup kitchen workers and the youth. I find that folks like that claim the religion is their inspiration, but that’s only because they ignore the other influences that led them to the kind aspects of the religion. Just as the assholes had influences that lead them to the hateful parts of religion.
I also don’t buy into any altruistic religious good activities. Soup kitchens (and other types of economic relief organizations) often require prayers and have expectations of piety as an exchange for the food. MLK had scandals. Carter did call out his religion publicly for its poor behavior and I won’t say I’m aware of anything bad about him, but I truly don’t attribute all his good to his religion, more like in spite of it.
"Just as they accept that Ramaswami is a person of faith without being Christian, because he’s also promoting the cruel policies they like."
But they DON'T count Ramaswamy as a person of faith. The poll number was 30%! So it seems cruel policies /= person of faith, not even for conservatives. You gotta have the right skin tone or pay lip service to the right faith before you'll be considered a person of faith.
If they didn't have double standards, they'd have no standards at all.
Hypocrisy does not bother these people.
Hypocrisy is practically a membership requirement.
Agent Orange doesn't want to be a President. He doesn't want to be a dictator. He doesn't want to be a king, or an emperor.
Donald Trump wants to be a Pharaoh.
He wants to be a god-king, a living god on Earth. He doesn't just want to be obeyed, he wants to be worshipped as divine.
And his gun-and-Bible devotees already do. They don't think of him as a "man of faith," He's THE faith. Many already openly compare him to a Messiah, and they won't stop there. They want to call him God, and they'll do whatever their god orders them to do.
Can we just bury him in a grainery...er...pyramid already?
The Luxor is one of the more affordable hotels in Vegas. Let's fill in a Trump Tower with concrete with him in the middle.
Pyramid-come-lately.
At this point, I think what he really wants is "no prosecution, no convictions, all charges dropped." He wants to be President as his way to that.
A pharaoh? That would explain the gold toilet.
I know of at least one better pharaoh. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNjhJ2BXVHc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pv5cXss5cPg
Obligatory.
OT- Sen. Feinstein dead at 90: https://apnews.com/article/dianne-feinstein-dead-c831f3228ac44faa9653234570bb8ce9
Mixed feelings, here. She should have retired- and not just when her most recent health troubles began. Seats in government are not meant to be personal fiefdoms, only transferable upon your death. There comes a time to pass the torch, and her time to do that came and went twenty years ago.
I'd list all the other politicians that need to retire but I don't have that much paper.
You're online...but yeah, there are only so many electrons in the universe.
Even though she was a democrat, she still hindered progress. Especially the last couple years while she was incapacitated but refusing to retire. McConnell is doing it to the GOP, but they like it that way, interfering in progress. His taking up space helps them with their agenda.
Yyyyup. We desperately need age and term limits in our government, especially at the federal level. Where to set them is a valid subject for debate, but I think the case for having them has been well and truly settled.
“Don’t trust anyone over 30.”
No. It's "Never trust a man in a tie. It cuts off the oxygen to his brain."
You wear your ties in a funny place then.
I wear a tie for weddings, funerals, and job interviews. And lately, I'm feeling like an anachronism during the job interviews.
Wearing one around the neck can easily cut off the supply of oxygen to the brain as that is where the supply runs through.
I'm 71. 😉
Thanks for confirming. : )
For how many years? 😝
Hey, if Jack Benny could stretch out 39 years...
As long as 71s not in dog years. I'd be long dead.
Barring that, politicians should be required to take periodic competency tests. Older citizens have to retake their drivers tests every so often in many places, to demonstrate that they're still competent and won't cause serious harm to the public, and I can't see any reason why politicians shouldn't have to do the same. Problem is, getting either measure passed would require a majority of politicians. As always, there's only one catch, and that's Catch-22.
The competency test is reelection. Supposedly.
This is not something some rule is going to be good at fixing. We need to fix ourselves (i.e. not be so willing to vote for incumbents or party for party's sake), and we need to fix our parties (being more open to primary challenges to sitting representatives).
Does pie taste better when you eat it in the sky?
As long as we're stuck with only two parties, we're stuck, period. Like the Democrats? Fine, vote them in. Disillusioned with them, good, go for the Republicans. Don't like what they do? No place to go but back to the Democrats, who disillusioned you in the first place. It's all just huge ping-pong game (or rabbit season/duck season), with the inevitable result being stasis, stasis, and more stasis. True democracies have more than two parties, for reasons that must be obvious to anyone who thinks about it seriously.
Unfortunately, we have the Constitution we have, and I'm even more scared of a Constitutional Convention than I am of a two-party system. After the civil war/revolution maybe we can write a new one for *𝑶𝑵𝑬* nation instead of a confederation of 50 states with way too much power inside their borders.
I'm not sure I like term limits, but I do think a mandatory retirement age is appropriate. There comes a point when Gen X, Millennials, and Gen Z should get a place at the table.
I mean look at poor Chuck, had to wait until his 70s to wear the crown.
Mostly positive feelings here. But I get ya. "Many positive contributions but held on to power too long" is gonna be a theme of the era I think.
<-- Exhibit 1.
“The only reason anyone would seriously think he’s a person of faith is because Trump just tells people he is. They believe the lie. They buy into the pandering. Or else they think installing right-wing justices on the Supreme Court for political reasons is the equivalent of accepting the divinity of Christ.”
The answer is simple. These same people believe Trump is a self made billionaire; a great businessman; J6th was just another tourist day at the Capitol; Biden is an illegitimate president; Santa Clause is real and democrats are the devil.
It’s not hard to understand why the evangelicals would support Trump faithfully. Their ministers are prosperity ministries, so they’re used to being fleeced as part of the flock.
And we all know that Pence is a man of faith. So much so, they he threw his Christian credentials to a man who is thrice married and cheated on all three of his wife’s, including Melania when she was pregnant. Not to mention, he stood back and stood by when the Access Hollywood tape came out. You remember, “I can grab her by the p.....”.
Or how Pence said nothing for three years after J6th, until, of course he decided to run for president.
Yup, these evangelicals are true adherents to Jesus. Didn’t Jesus say, “beware of false prophets? In Trump’s case, they hit the twofer: a gilded, false prophet!
I’m positive God warned Moses about the Israelites idolizing false golden gods: the golden calf, comes to mind.
Just saying....:)
How do you know he's lying? Sure he lies a lot but that doesn't mean he's lying about that. He sure acts like a bunch of Christians who we've seen here.
Maybe he graduated from the George Costanza school of philosophy: “a lie is not a lie, if you believe it to be true!”...:)
In this case, if one believes its true then it's not a lie. If conservatives can say they're Star Trek fans then Trump can say he's Christian.
Those conservatives seem to be unaware that Roddenberry was an atheist who had nothing good to say about religion. He also found the Christian god a poor excuse for a supreme being.
Did they watch Star Trek: The Next Generation? Its captain (played by an atheist) took shots at religion. Star Trek: Deep Space 9 took shots at religion. Conservatives really don't do their homework.
And The Orville. Wonder if there will be another season.
Now that I got through MASH, we are rewatching The Orville as a mindless mood cleanser before bed. I hope there’s another season after the strike is settled.
Neither Disney nor Hulu have renewed the show for a 4th season, so it's unclear whether it will go on.
(Disney IS in talks with Seth about continuing, though the writer/actor strike may have put things off and we won't get an update until after negotiations with the actors have been settled)
This one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb8fGiNcNm8
The original went against everything the conservative fans think. I don’t understand why they think it’s theirs?
These are the same people who thought Steven Colbert was a consewertive.
These are the same conservatives who embraced Johnny Cash as their own.
It's obvious they never listened to his song "Man in Black."
Fair enough...:)
https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.4cff4516e22cec07033a41f77fbbbd03?rik=euFuE3Lmahqn1w&pid=ImgRaw&r=0
Gods, I'd forgotten about that thing.
As always: Bob's Big Boy called. They want their Big Boy mascot back and in its original condition.
Thank you, good to know. I agree, these people are scary. They are ruthless, relentless and convinced their way of life is the true way, and the rest of us must submit to their parochial ideology or we are satan’s spawn!...:)
"Delusional" is the word for it, though I'm not certain that it's strong enough. Then, too, evangelicals delude themselves into at least claiming to believe that every word of the bible is true, and that's a leap I doubt even Carl Lewis could make.
Here's another point, though: Trump has made a point of LOOKING as though he's a person of faith, what with those interviews about his favorite bible verse, the quip about "2 Corinthians" and that disastrous stroll out to the church, where he held a bible UPSIDE-DOWN. I note that Joe Biden is clearly a religious man, though he makes far less a public point of it than Trump does, and I think that's very telling. Those who are confident and comfortable in whatever beliefs they may have may tend to be less outre about them. Personally, I think Trump's religious expressions are far more about PANDERING to religious voters than anything else.
Because I think Trump is about as genuinely religious as the proverbial hole in the equally proverbial head.
Whether or not Chump himself is a true believer has become pretty much irrelevant. His followers are true believers (whether in Christianity or in him makes no difference), and he's weaponized their faith against the rest of us. It doesn't matter what he believes inwardly, it matters what he says and does. He says he's a Christian, and they accept him as a Christian- fine then, he's a Christian. He makes public displays of piety, which the religious people in his corner accept as such? Fine, he's pious. I don't care whether his beliefs are sincere if the rest of the monster acts like we'd expect a wannabe theocratic dictator to. Distinction without a difference.
We also have to make sure that Christians of tomorrow don't get away with pushing his legacy off their page of the history book, like they've attempted to do every other time they found themselves on the wrong side and later regretted it. Chump's movement would not have been possible without the prevalence of Christianity in this country. It would not have been possible without the conflation of religiosity with moral character, and of blind faith with hard evidence.
I have looked at a few photographs of Trump's activity with a Bible and can see no evidence that it was upside-down. May I humbly claim a working life-time of experience with books of all kinds. Further, Snopes agrees with me.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-hold-bible-upside-down/
Trump is guilty of many aberrations of many kinds but this particular incident is not one of them.
There's something about the clumsy, awkward way he handles it that makes you feel like it must be upside down. That slimy smirk on his face lets you know that he doesn't give a shit whether it's upside down or backwards as long as he gets his picture taken.
I have also met lots of people who handle books in a clumsy, awkward manner and looked pleased with themselves (though not slimily) as they did so. Of course, they were nearly all under five years old and this counted as a major step in their education and they went on to greater achievements. That's where the similarity ends.
Incidentally, I really like "awkward"; it even looks awkward.
Here it is: proof that the religion they practice is closer to the religion of money, power and influence that Trump practices than the religion of Jesus.
"Faith" is worthless--a belief in something without evidence. It doesn't get any dumber than that.
what really pisses me off about faith is when people try to make it the law of the land or demand it be taught in classes.
Faith is a thief. It steals precious, irreplaceable time away from the one life you will ever have.
At least with gaming and Tik Tok you get something that exists. Faith is empty. It takes and gives nothing in return except hollow promises.
I don't think it's their religion that makes them hate. I think it just excuses it.
Well, by definition these "people of faith" have already demonstrated their gullibility. Not surprised how easily they are hoodwinked.
OT
"GOP's Own Impeachment Witnesses Admit They Can't Offer Evidence of Biden Crimes"
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/biden-impeachment-inquiry-hearing-derailed-evidence-1234834312/
Anyone shocked by this? Anyone at all? This story's all over the 'Net. Meanwhile, there's a devastating government shutdown looming. Where's the GOPs action on THAT?
"Where's the GOPs action on THAT?"
They're out hunting witches, or more accurately, hunting Hunter.
Watch it, liberal. Hunter Biden once tore the little tag off his mattress. Lock the bum up!
I heard he planned the Bowling Green Massacre!
May this farce and their inaction on the shutdown cost them dearly.
Inaction? AIUI (and given their track record, am pretty certain in that understanding), they are actively causing it. Demanding things that 1) have nothing to do with the budget. 2) Actively harm the country and they know that.
There really should be a requirement that any and all proposed amendments to a given bill must have some obvious connection to it. But of course that would limit their goddamned privileges, so it ain't ever gonna happen.
But his laptop has incriminating video of him handing sacks with dollar signs printed on them to "Big Guy" Joe!
The Biden being referred to in the article is our President, not his son. 🙂
They're the same guy, at least according to the GOP.
We, of course, can say the same about Donald Trump and his namesake son.
Except Trump has committed real crimes and has been impeached. Twice. And Junior had a significant role in illegally trying to overturn the 2020 election. Then there's the whole fraud thing about his misusing his daddy's inaugural funds.
I don't remember hearing about the inaugural funds, but doesn't surprise me.
"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law---a man's enemies will be members of his own household. Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me." -- Matthew 10:34-37
Gee, maybe Trump really is a Christian.
And the Bible is full of shit.
Donald Trump is a Juche, like his buddy in North Korea.
Juche transfers worship of a deity to worship of the country's leader. It's a man-centered ideology where (and I quote) "man is the master of everything and decides everything."
Sound familiar?
*coughcough𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘺𝘴𝘩𝘪𝘵𝘵𝘺𝘥𝘪𝘤𝘵𝘢𝘵𝘰𝘳𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘳coughcough*
Oof, think I got something stuck in my throat there.
Bragging about your sex life again. ;-)
If it's getting stuck, you're 𝘥𝘦𝘧𝘪𝘯𝘪𝘵𝘦𝘭𝘺 doing it wrong.
So you haven't seen any Anastasia Blue vids (may she RIP). That woman would intentionally gag herself during oral. Hell, in one scene, she is doing that on a guy; suddenly, she stops and runs out through a sliding glass door into the backyard, where she barfs. Then she comes back in and goes right back to it! 😲
Nationalism. In Christianity, Jesus was a man, so that would mean Christianity is also a form of Juche.
Juche or Dousche?
Yes.
I’m just gonna leave this here.
https://www.psypost.org/2019/11/meta-analysis-of-83-studies-produces-very-strong-evidence-for-a-negative-relationship-between-intelligence-and-religiosity-54897?fbclid=IwAR3ej989fWSCGKKMNIsZYJc4nTfXwscbebF2DgeXLnp9rHV20uI9wMLjTF8_aem_AbhfeMszs0otNb2MF9gVuNs1QtINz_dcgWFUhVCnTdPOaYVEBnSiSl06wTp3Zc7dMU8
“The negative relation was established for western societies. We don’t know whether it generalizes to other populations, particularly those in the Far East,” Zuckerman explained.
Trans. Please may I have more money for another survey.
Ooh look. 😁
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/29/poll-watcher-georgia-elections-case-scott-hall-pleads-guilty-guilty
Fake news! Witch hunt! Hillary's emails!
don't forget Hunter Biden laptop.
And Antifa actors.
And George Soros. And Dr. Fauci. And Pfizer.
Bill Gates
Jewish space lasers?
"We're Jewwwws out in spaaaace
We're zooming along, protecting the Hebrew raaaaaace..."
The Deep State hypnotized him to plead guilty!
Hypnotized him in the basement of a pizza parlor.
While forcing him to drink a can of Bud Light.