This is just another reason why charter schools are a bad idea and never should have been accepted in the first place. Even allowing private companies to provide public education has the same pitfalls allowing religious institutions to provide public education. The companies have their own agenda. They focus on profits, why else would the Catholic Church for this school complain about competition with other private schools. That statement was pretty telling when it comes to motivations.
How does taking education away from a diverse population only to offer a religious indoctrination expand religious freedom? You are literally forcing your religion on people who do not want it.
And then the “it’s a hypothetical situation, I can’t address that” is laughable. Your whole school is hypothetical at this point, but the disabled students who will have no other options when you destroy their schools are very real.
The push for this will only end badly. What protections do they have for the children from priestly inappropriate attention? The Catholic Church has too large an issue to assume this won’t happen at this school. Even if it is online.
If people want a religious education, they will seek it out. Stop pushing it on them. Learn to take no for an answer. But that is antithetical to Catholic and general Christian doctrine.
It is NEVER the job of our secular government, or our public schools to backstop anybody's religion. America's economic competitors around the world break into their happy dance any time they read about Republicans trying to imporove education in this country.
This case really winds me up. This constant clawing at the wall of separation is unpatriotic and criminal. When I was a believer I was still a proponent of the separation because that is a basic tenant of our nation. It's what makes America great. The idea that we listen to opposing viewpoints instead of one man claiming he talks to God and therefore we have to listen to him is not the America I want, nor have I ever wanted that. These Christian Nationalist want to go back to a land of rule by divine right not because they believe there is a man in the sky that tells us what to do but because they know there isn't. The true believers don't want that wall to come down. They don't want their churches to pay taxes. They don't want the government telling them what to believe. They don't want rule by divine right by what is clearly non-believers. Yes, I get that the majority of Christian Nationalist are believers. They are the believers that are easy to lead around by the nose. They are believers that are indoctrinated so far that we may not be able to save them. But the Christian Nationalists that are in power can't believe. If they did they would not do the things they do for fear of retribution. Instead they are using the easily led to grab as much power as they can because they are afraid of the power of the people.
Separation of church and state people long ago decided that churches don't have to pay taxes because participating in the shared maintenance of our nation would violate that principle. Now they go after our dwindling public school resources while not paying their share into the system in the first place. If the wall of separation is going to come down then tax the church.
This really is the modern Republican party, take from the poor and give to the rich.
That's because he doesn't care, as long as he can force Christianity into the curriculum. Even in SBC territory, where they don't accept the fact that Catholics are Christians, this gives him a wedge to do the same for his Baptist brethren. This is yet another Christian Nationalist who thinks the establishment clause only prohibits declaring one denomination to be the official Church of the United States.
So ALL taxpayers, regardless of their views will be forced to pay for teaching children that one religion is correct and all others are incorrect, and forced to pay for indoctrinating children with homophobia, misogyny, and medieval superstition.
If you explain it in those terms, it has more impact than invoking an abstract-sounding phrase such as "separation of church and state."
Fuck this sideways, the RCC can afford to fund it's own schools. It's saving tons of money by doublefucking it's victims that won in court, how many solid gold Jesus buttplugs does the pope need?
Says Ryan Walters: "It is time to end atheism as the state sponsored religion."
OK, Groomer. It's not atheism that tries to push its way into every aspect of public and private life through legislation. That's religion's schtick. Especially Christianity's. You are projecting.
It is difficult to see how SCOTUS would exempt this school from such nondescript and neutral legal violations such as 'voucher schools must have wheechair ramps; this one doesn't,' or 'voucher school boards and administrations can't be run by their educational management organizations; this one's is.'
But I'm sure they'll find a way. They'll probably "what-hump?" it: approve while simply pretend those violations don't exist.
Catholic schools shouldn't be allowed to exist in the first place, but stopping Child Rapists R Us from parasitizing our tax dollars even more is definitely a good thing.
This is just another reason why charter schools are a bad idea and never should have been accepted in the first place. Even allowing private companies to provide public education has the same pitfalls allowing religious institutions to provide public education. The companies have their own agenda. They focus on profits, why else would the Catholic Church for this school complain about competition with other private schools. That statement was pretty telling when it comes to motivations.
How does taking education away from a diverse population only to offer a religious indoctrination expand religious freedom? You are literally forcing your religion on people who do not want it.
And then the “it’s a hypothetical situation, I can’t address that” is laughable. Your whole school is hypothetical at this point, but the disabled students who will have no other options when you destroy their schools are very real.
The push for this will only end badly. What protections do they have for the children from priestly inappropriate attention? The Catholic Church has too large an issue to assume this won’t happen at this school. Even if it is online.
If people want a religious education, they will seek it out. Stop pushing it on them. Learn to take no for an answer. But that is antithetical to Catholic and general Christian doctrine.
It is NEVER the job of our secular government, or our public schools to backstop anybody's religion. America's economic competitors around the world break into their happy dance any time they read about Republicans trying to imporove education in this country.
Benjamin Franklin was right. Any religion that calls on the Civil Power for help is a bad religion.
This case really winds me up. This constant clawing at the wall of separation is unpatriotic and criminal. When I was a believer I was still a proponent of the separation because that is a basic tenant of our nation. It's what makes America great. The idea that we listen to opposing viewpoints instead of one man claiming he talks to God and therefore we have to listen to him is not the America I want, nor have I ever wanted that. These Christian Nationalist want to go back to a land of rule by divine right not because they believe there is a man in the sky that tells us what to do but because they know there isn't. The true believers don't want that wall to come down. They don't want their churches to pay taxes. They don't want the government telling them what to believe. They don't want rule by divine right by what is clearly non-believers. Yes, I get that the majority of Christian Nationalist are believers. They are the believers that are easy to lead around by the nose. They are believers that are indoctrinated so far that we may not be able to save them. But the Christian Nationalists that are in power can't believe. If they did they would not do the things they do for fear of retribution. Instead they are using the easily led to grab as much power as they can because they are afraid of the power of the people.
Separation of church and state people long ago decided that churches don't have to pay taxes because participating in the shared maintenance of our nation would violate that principle. Now they go after our dwindling public school resources while not paying their share into the system in the first place. If the wall of separation is going to come down then tax the church.
This really is the modern Republican party, take from the poor and give to the rich.
𝐻𝑒 𝑖𝑔𝑛𝑜𝑟𝑒𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑎𝑐𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑠𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑎𝑙 𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑙𝑎𝑖𝑛𝑡𝑖𝑓𝑓𝑠 𝑎𝑟𝑒 𝑟𝑒𝑙𝑖𝑔𝑖𝑜𝑢𝑠 𝑙𝑒𝑎𝑑𝑒𝑟𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑚𝑠𝑒𝑙𝑣𝑒𝑠 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑙𝑖𝑡𝑒𝑟𝑎𝑙𝑙𝑦 𝑛𝑜 𝑜𝑛𝑒 𝑖𝑠 𝑐𝑎𝑙𝑙𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑓𝑜𝑟 𝑎𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑖𝑠𝑚 𝑡𝑜 𝑏𝑒 𝑡𝑎𝑢𝑔ℎ𝑡 𝑖𝑛 𝑎𝑛𝑦 𝑠𝑐ℎ𝑜𝑜𝑙.
That's because he doesn't care, as long as he can force Christianity into the curriculum. Even in SBC territory, where they don't accept the fact that Catholics are Christians, this gives him a wedge to do the same for his Baptist brethren. This is yet another Christian Nationalist who thinks the establishment clause only prohibits declaring one denomination to be the official Church of the United States.
Christian Fucking Privilege needs to end.
So ALL taxpayers, regardless of their views will be forced to pay for teaching children that one religion is correct and all others are incorrect, and forced to pay for indoctrinating children with homophobia, misogyny, and medieval superstition.
If you explain it in those terms, it has more impact than invoking an abstract-sounding phrase such as "separation of church and state."
Fuck this sideways, the RCC can afford to fund it's own schools. It's saving tons of money by doublefucking it's victims that won in court, how many solid gold Jesus buttplugs does the pope need?
Says Ryan Walters: "It is time to end atheism as the state sponsored religion."
OK, Groomer. It's not atheism that tries to push its way into every aspect of public and private life through legislation. That's religion's schtick. Especially Christianity's. You are projecting.
I have to admit I'm a bit curious about the two other 'flippers' on the board.
Original vote: Beauchamp, Sanders, Strawn, Franklin and Pearson all vote no.
Redo vote: Bobek, Sanders, Strawn vote yes. Franklin, Pearson vote no.
So Bobek is the shill. But what happened with Sanders and Strawn?
It is difficult to see how SCOTUS would exempt this school from such nondescript and neutral legal violations such as 'voucher schools must have wheechair ramps; this one doesn't,' or 'voucher school boards and administrations can't be run by their educational management organizations; this one's is.'
But I'm sure they'll find a way. They'll probably "what-hump?" it: approve while simply pretend those violations don't exist.
“It is time to end atheism as the state sponsored religion,”
Oklahoma is 4% atheists. They do a crappy job of teaching atheism.
Wanna bet the school becoming a major hotbed for child abuse of all kinds including sexual if it finally opens to the public?
OK isn't. They're already ranked 48th in Education. They aiming for dead last now? Damned Christians.
OT - woohoo. https://www.alternet.org/leah-remini-sues-scientology-harassment/
Catholic schools shouldn't be allowed to exist in the first place, but stopping Child Rapists R Us from parasitizing our tax dollars even more is definitely a good thing.