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"I'm appalled. Frankly, it made me sick at my stomach."

An "om" triggered you, Judge Snowflake? You're pathetic.

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I've got a new mantra for him, to wit:

Ahwah – Tagoo – Siam!

I'm sure if he repeats it a few hundred times, that he WILL see the light.

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Aug 23, 2023·edited Aug 24, 2023

I always heard that mantra as "Ohwah-Ta-Jer-Kiam!"

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I learned it as: Ohwa - tasil - eegoo - siam.

Works either way.

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Aug 23, 2023·edited Aug 23, 2023

Or the classic from BillyWitchdoctorDotCom (deals mostly in chickens):

https://youtu.be/zCckhxNXRZY?si=exQnvEGXs60VrX7f

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it took a moment and a couple of repetitions. then, i giggled. thank you!

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See? This is why I get the big bucks! 🤣🤣🤣

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Nam myoho renge woo...

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But "om" spelled backwards is "mo," which is almost "moo," which is what cows say, and the ancient Egyptians had a cow-headed goddess, and them there Hindoo-ish people think cows is sacred too, so it's all satanic and stuff. We have to protect our children from all these vegetarians from hell!

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Human trafficking? Domestic abuse? Mass starvation? Not worrisome enough to publicly object to. Trump's putting immigrant children in cages? Why I bet he's all for it! But you say "om" in a chapel you rented for quiet retreat, boy that really makes him sick.

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No, no, it's Owah danna Siam

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Aug 23, 2023·edited Aug 23, 2023

I suspect we've heard nothing from PMSS because they realize they've stepped on a land-mine and are trying to figure out how not to lose a foot.

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Although we would like them to stand up for the right thing, given that they’re from the area, they probably know better than anyone what will happen to them if they do. They’re just as much a victim in this as the Wayfarers. I don’t blame them too much for not being more aggressive as a protection from the local terrorists.

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But we keep coming back to that point. 'We might get hurt if we don't give in to the terrorists' demands' and that's how the terrorists win. And if no one stands up, the terrorists will take over the country.

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They pretty much already have.

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This is true, I won’t argue that. But not everyone is strong enough to be a martyr. So what needs to happen is the strong need to speak up for all. Now that this is brought to the public’s attention, folks need to fight this. Just as no one here blames the artists for leaving to avoid escalating the situation, we shouldn’t blame PMSS for taking their time to respond with tact. If when they do respond and they throw the vulnerable under the bus, that’s when I’ll get upset with them.

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I'm not surprised or upset that they're taking some time to figure out if they can get off the landmine without losing a foot.

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The slippery slope argument doesn't wash for me here. If one private company decides in the future not to rent out their chapel because of angry fundie townies, that's disappointing. But it's not the end of democracy or secularism. They are in fact free, as a business, to decide that the social implications of renting out their chapel just aren't worth the income it might bring in.

(Obviously, on a personal note, I hope they decide the opposite; i.e. that it makes both business and ethical sense to demonstrate to future prospective clients that their facility will remain safe and protected even if angry townies show up at the fence).

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It's not just one company, it's been several. That's why the terrorists are so emboldened. It keeps working. It doesn't matter if they officially have the government if they can intimidate enough people to give them their way.

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Either way they will probably loose customers. I don't know if there is a way out of pissing off any side.

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I don't think there's a way to either, but I don't blame them for taking a little while to try.

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That school owed that group a legal duty of care to protect them from being stalked and abused. PMS has insurance riders that require that care, as well as any number of legal and regulatory authorities. Everyone who attacked or failed to protect the Wayfarers and/or bragged about it or supported it publicly after the attack is going to spend the next year or more defending themselves in courts both civil and criminal.

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Me neither. Hostile natives are already an on-site judgment call, if you throw in a potentially hostile police force and hostile judge then I'm not going to second-guess their decision to temporarily concede & retreat.

As I said earlier, if they decide going forward this is not a battle they want to fight, then they need to be upfront and forthcoming about that in their future rental contracts. They may lose some business, but the bottom line is that if you can't rent the chapel out because of the angry villagers, then you can't charge customers for the chapel or advertise that they get to use it.

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PMSS made an excellent statement defending the rights of Waymakers renting the campus. If you.checkout their Facebook page, their statement is posted. 💚

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TLDR: Christians who mark their territory any chance they get become upset when they perceive that someone else marked territory they already marked.

These Christians are now telling all their friends how they protected 'The Lord's House' from the 'woke' mob and how those heathens knew they were in the wrong because they did not give the appropriate push back, instead leaving in disgrace. When in fact the people who had the right to the property chose to avoid conflict with people who are probably going to end up hosting witch trials within the next 20 years.

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Yea, and so it was in the year of our Lord 2023 that these Christian Soldiers valiantly sallied forth to defend the sanctity of the Lord's House from... a bunch of completely unarmed meditating artists and a word on a piece of canvas.

Such bravery!

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Let’s all not hold our breath waiting for the mob to see anything close to consequences. This country is broken.

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This country? This is Kentucky we're talking about. Mitch McConnell's people.

<---See smile.

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Wayfarer, get thee to a lawyer this a case of trespassing, religious harassment and failure to abide by contracts by multiple parties.

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Aug 23, 2023·edited Aug 23, 2023

The all-caps portion of self-appointed Jesus vigilante spokesman Tate Napier:

"THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN ON MY WATCH"

It's not your watch. You're not in charge. You have no authority, you have only intimidation.

"I DON'T CARE WHAT THE WORLD SAYS ABOUT IT I ONLY CARE WHAT GOD SAYS."

That's the definition of a fanatic. It's something about which you should feel ashamed, not proud.

"IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT SUE ME."

You definitely should be sued into the ground.

This kind of thing is going to become more frequent, more widespread, and more extreme. As Christians dwindle in numbers, they are increasing in extremism. Don't let a single incident happen unchallenged, unopposed, unlitigated, and unpunished. Use the law or lose the law.

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Kids - it is getting dangerous out there. This is nothing but 7-Mountains Dominionism. Its goal is to void the Constitution and enact a theofascist state. We are actually the victims of out own success... the New Atheist and the Pride movements have spawned a reactionary right wing movement to silence everyone who isn't like them and drive us back into any number of closets. We have to get out the vote in 2024 or we will be living The Handmaid's Tale.

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Atheists and LGBTQ people insisting on equality are no more responsible for the current wave of reactionary hatred than Black people were for the rise of the KKK. Bigots' violent reactions to the mere hint of a suggestion that people different from them deserve equality are not, nor will ever be, the responsibility of those merely asking to not be stepped on any longer. We didn't make them hate us- they 𝘤𝘩𝘰𝘴𝘦 to.

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No, no, we made them hate us. Just ask them. If we could just hide and pretend we don't exist then the bigots could live happy, peaceful lives.

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Actually it's really your fault, if you didn't exist, they would go back to killing themselves 😇

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When you stick your head up above the fortress wall and become visible, you become a target. They were already primed to hate us. The success of our movements brought them together and galvanized their hate - reaction.

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So much for the concept of a non-specific chapel, hospitals and military bases should take note.

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No one should ever be shocked by what true believers are capable of doing in the name of their faith.

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At minimum, they should not at all be surprised. Far as I'm concerned, this amounts to "soup yesterday and soup again today."

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So much love. Congratulations Bledsoe christians, you are as smart as the fundies who want to terminate Hellfest*. Don't come and cry when some of the groups who rented the space will take their money elsewhere.

* The Mayor, most shopkeepers and bed and breakfast owners want the festival to stay. Guess why.

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Its Harlan actually the group came in from there

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I don't have an account and not interested to create one.

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What we're dealing with here goes past intolerance. Certainly the rabble that confronted the attendees of that retreat were intolerant of anything that might suggest a belief system other than their own. What takes this to the next level is that the space that was involved here WAS NOT A CHURCH. This was effectively a SECULAR, multipurpose facility which could be used for ANY purpose, religious or otherwise. Apparently, Napier, Mosley & Co. thought their Christianity and Christian-based experiences in that space amounted to claiming that site to their religion. Sorry [not sorry!], no, it didn't.

And they are effectively incapable of entertaining the idea that they somehow OWN that space.

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Brownshirts.

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All they need are the truncheons and a moniker. They could go with SA.

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Hell, throw in the belt buckle, too. "GOTT MIT UNS." That's how entitled these pricks think they are.

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Skidmarks, the alternate meaning.

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Including the brownshirts in black robes.

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It'd be funny if The Satanic Temple rented it for a big "cleansing ritual" and hid bits of parchment with pentagrams around the place, like Easter eggs. Because that would actually MEAN something to those bible thumping idiots.

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You're starting a GoFundMe for their hospital bills, right?

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Sheep aren't that scary... And TST could use the same tactic they used for the unveiling of the Baphomet statue. When christianists tried to interfere, they found that they had to sign over their souls to get in. Despite the promise they'd get them back later, none signed.

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Aug 23, 2023·edited Aug 23, 2023

Any time Tate Napier opens his gob and spews his oh-so-phony moral outrage, he should be loudly greeted with "Child molester says what?"

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Don't forget child molesting (any kind) is babblical.

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Aug 23, 2023·edited Aug 23, 2023

After all, Jesus came into the world via the Holy Pigeon impregnating an underage girl that was not his wife.

Adultery, bestiality and child molestation all in one go.

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Hey, he shares half a name with Andrew Tate!

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What should happen (but won't) is that PMSS should press trespassing charges and the Wayfairers in the chapel should press assault charges. Of course, the jury would nullify any verdict. And even though this is a religious hate crime, the feds won't kick the hornet's nest since there was no actual violence, just the threat of it.

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If the judge doesn't dismiss the case before an eventual trial.

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Welcome to small town mentality.

Bigots can threaten innocent people with impunity and the local officials will let them.

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I imagine the local officials are often in the mob with the rest of the bigots.

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