Beacon Health's takeover of Ascension Borgess in southwest Michigan restored reproductive health services that Catholic doctrine had blocked for years.
You want to talk about good news? THERE YOU GO. Kick the Catholics out and get doctors, nurses, and staff that can actually deliver health care WITHOUT THE CATHOLIC DOGMA.
Frankly, this action should be repeated nationwide. Religion does NOT belong in health care!
If Catholic hospitals put barriers to full and proper health care (and we all know that THEY DO!), then they should NOT be involved in the health care industry in any way, shape, or form ... FULL STOP.
If only common sense principles (like, say, a “public option” for universal, reliable, secular / inclusive and evidence-based, patient-centered, and nondiscriminatory healthcare) could (at least 75 years belatedly) become the norm and not a pipe dream in this country, heck, we’d be well on our way to getting around to making America great in REALITY and not just cheap, empty slogans to gaslight credulous authoritarian followers.
"Religion was our first attempt at health care, believing in faith healing."
"What happens to the faith healer and the shaman when any poor citizen can see the full effect of drugs or surgeries, administered without ceremonies or mystifications?"
-- Christopher Hitchens, from "God is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything."
This is the news I want to hear! Thank you. Many years ago I was rushed to a Catholic hospital (unknowingly) and I can’t begin to describe the horror of my experience there. It opened my eyes to how women are treated in healthcare as less than human.
Proud to say that today I am the very best advocate for myself when I see a doctor for any reason. No one should have to tediously put on defensive armor every time they step inside a doctor’s office. It’s exhausting and it’s unnecessary.
I would still choose the robber barons over the moral busybodies when it comes to my healthcare, but that shouldn’t be a choice anyone has to make. Ok end rant 😂
At least part of it is due to the fact that here in the US, healthcare is seen as a for profit industry, instead of a public service. The hospital has to run in order to maximize profit and obey shareholders (in too many cases that is the RCC) instead of running so that good patient outcomes are the focus.
Even giving the Catholic hospitals the benefit of the doubt and saying they are actually nonprofit, they are still far more beholden to the church (the shareholders) than the patients. I don't think it would run afoul of the First Amendment if there were a federal law mandating all hospitals provide all legal and medically appropriate care, as determined by medical professionals and not religious leaders.
Did the previous owner disclose the reason why they sold their hospitals? Not profitable enough? The main shareholder wanted to cash-out? To pay off some debts? They got bored running hospitals? None of the above? All of the above?
The catholic church has a fundamentally irrational view of human sexuality. This is to be expected when all the rules get made by a collection of celibate men. The church’s stand on contraception does not elevate the status of life . . . It trivializes it. It completely ignores the realities of raising a family in the modern world. So glad I walked away from that monstrous organization over half a century ago.
"It’s amazing what can happen when the Catholic Church doesn’t dictate health care."
It is amazing! People can truly be healed and saved! No lord and savior required.
I wonder if any secular run hospitals are non-profit? Or if they're all for-profit in the US Healthcare system, and that's why we see only Catholic hospitals in poorer, predominantly Medicaid demographics.
I know catholic hospitals will show up in affluent neighborhoods; it's like that where I live. I was more thinking that catholic hospitals are the only hospitals in poor neighborhoods so they "give back to the poor" and it's all tax write-offs marketed as healthcare.
We absolutely should mandate that all hospitals affiliated with a religious group sever their relationship. Medical care should never be tied to a religion.
You want to talk about good news? THERE YOU GO. Kick the Catholics out and get doctors, nurses, and staff that can actually deliver health care WITHOUT THE CATHOLIC DOGMA.
Frankly, this action should be repeated nationwide. Religion does NOT belong in health care!
Or anywhere else.
😁 Yeah ... there's still THAT, ain't there? 😁
Several other dogmatic hospital chains could benefit from similar reform. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/23/catholic-hospitals-abortion-womens-health-care-miscarrying-mothers
If Catholic hospitals put barriers to full and proper health care (and we all know that THEY DO!), then they should NOT be involved in the health care industry in any way, shape, or form ... FULL STOP.
If only common sense principles (like, say, a “public option” for universal, reliable, secular / inclusive and evidence-based, patient-centered, and nondiscriminatory healthcare) could (at least 75 years belatedly) become the norm and not a pipe dream in this country, heck, we’d be well on our way to getting around to making America great in REALITY and not just cheap, empty slogans to gaslight credulous authoritarian followers.
"Ascension health care system" Hopefully all Catholic affiliated health care will ascend out of the United States and never return. 😟🤔
Agreed, religion does not belong in health care or the U.S. government.
Again, "tax the fucken churches" Frank Zappa 1980 🤪
"Ascension." Like Trump, lies and absurd fables believed by gullibel people rise to the top.
𝐼𝑡’𝑠 𝑎𝑚𝑎𝑧𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑤ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑐𝑎𝑛 ℎ𝑎𝑝𝑝𝑒𝑛 𝑤ℎ𝑒𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝐶𝑎𝑡ℎ𝑜𝑙𝑖𝑐 𝐶ℎ𝑢𝑟𝑐ℎ 𝑑𝑜𝑒𝑠𝑛’𝑡 𝑑𝑖𝑐𝑡𝑎𝑡𝑒 ℎ𝑒𝑎𝑙𝑡ℎ 𝑐𝑎𝑟𝑒.
It's amazing what can happen when the Catholic Church doesn't dictate 𝘢𝘯𝘺𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨.
They can dictate the following memo:
“ PRIESTS ARE REMINDED NOT TO PUT THEIR HANDS DOWN THE COOKIE JARS’ PANTS.”
A bunch of celibate old white men and a few pedophiles of little boys can do just about anything...as long as they BELIEVE!*
*and have unchecked power and access to trillions of dollars from delusional faithful worshippers and help from the government.
"It's amazing what can happen when the Catholic Church doesn't dictate health care."
Almost miraculous, one might say. ;)
"Religion was our first attempt at health care, believing in faith healing."
"What happens to the faith healer and the shaman when any poor citizen can see the full effect of drugs or surgeries, administered without ceremonies or mystifications?"
-- Christopher Hitchens, from "God is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything."
This is the news I want to hear! Thank you. Many years ago I was rushed to a Catholic hospital (unknowingly) and I can’t begin to describe the horror of my experience there. It opened my eyes to how women are treated in healthcare as less than human.
Proud to say that today I am the very best advocate for myself when I see a doctor for any reason. No one should have to tediously put on defensive armor every time they step inside a doctor’s office. It’s exhausting and it’s unnecessary.
I would still choose the robber barons over the moral busybodies when it comes to my healthcare, but that shouldn’t be a choice anyone has to make. Ok end rant 😂
𝑊ℎ𝑦 𝑎𝑟𝑒 𝑠𝑜 𝑚𝑎𝑛𝑦 𝑐𝑜𝑚𝑚𝑢𝑛𝑖𝑡𝑖𝑒𝑠 𝑑𝑒𝑝𝑒𝑛𝑑𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝑜𝑛 ℎ𝑜𝑠𝑝𝑖𝑡𝑎𝑙𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑟𝑒𝑓𝑢𝑠𝑒 𝑡𝑜 𝑝𝑟𝑜𝑣𝑖𝑑𝑒 𝑙𝑒𝑔𝑎𝑙, 𝑚𝑒𝑑𝑖𝑐𝑎𝑙𝑙𝑦 𝑎𝑝𝑝𝑟𝑜𝑝𝑟𝑖𝑎𝑡𝑒 𝑐𝑎𝑟𝑒 𝑖𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑖𝑟𝑠𝑡 𝑝𝑙𝑎𝑐𝑒?
At least part of it is due to the fact that here in the US, healthcare is seen as a for profit industry, instead of a public service. The hospital has to run in order to maximize profit and obey shareholders (in too many cases that is the RCC) instead of running so that good patient outcomes are the focus.
Even giving the Catholic hospitals the benefit of the doubt and saying they are actually nonprofit, they are still far more beholden to the church (the shareholders) than the patients. I don't think it would run afoul of the First Amendment if there were a federal law mandating all hospitals provide all legal and medically appropriate care, as determined by medical professionals and not religious leaders.
It would run afoul of the Supreme Catholics of the US.
Religion is a scourge and impediment to quality of life and progress of the human condition.
Hitch said it: "Religion POISONS Everything."
Well, waddaya know? Those evil secularists truly ARE pro-life.
Did the previous owner disclose the reason why they sold their hospitals? Not profitable enough? The main shareholder wanted to cash-out? To pay off some debts? They got bored running hospitals? None of the above? All of the above?
There's a question worth getting a proper answer to!
They discovered Crypto and online porn are better investments.
Good point :
1) Hedge funds were bottoming out.
2)Ran out of staffing.
3)Tax shell game/cover other loses.
4)Too many malpractices.
5) Better opportunities.
6)ect.
Thanks,respectfully ✨️
The catholic church has a fundamentally irrational view of human sexuality. This is to be expected when all the rules get made by a collection of celibate men. The church’s stand on contraception does not elevate the status of life . . . It trivializes it. It completely ignores the realities of raising a family in the modern world. So glad I walked away from that monstrous organization over half a century ago.
A part of a local theocracy has been defeated. ❤️
Puny religion.
"It’s amazing what can happen when the Catholic Church doesn’t dictate health care."
It is amazing! People can truly be healed and saved! No lord and savior required.
I wonder if any secular run hospitals are non-profit? Or if they're all for-profit in the US Healthcare system, and that's why we see only Catholic hospitals in poorer, predominantly Medicaid demographics.
The group that took over in this instance is non-profit. The local catholic hospital is smack in the middle of the most affluent part of town.
I'm glad to see a non-profit secular system.
I know catholic hospitals will show up in affluent neighborhoods; it's like that where I live. I was more thinking that catholic hospitals are the only hospitals in poor neighborhoods so they "give back to the poor" and it's all tax write-offs marketed as healthcare.
The local hospital in the poorer section of town is secular.
The former.
They all have one thing in common: their CEOs have seven figure salaries.
https://ibb.co/fYKkP9jc
🎯🎯🎯
Huzzah! Now if only some (or all) Trinity facilities could transition to secular / pro human rights / not misogynist. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/23/catholic-hospitals-abortion-womens-health-care-miscarrying-mothers
I see the words Catholic hospital and am immediately reminded of Teresa, the Ghoul of Kolkata.
A pox on all Catholic "health" care.
Agnes Bojaxhiu delivered health care like Trump delivered on his campaign promises. 😝
"Then He will answer them, saying, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.' "
If her hell is real, she is there right now.
No more jetting first class to Europe and the states to get the finest medical health care possible for herself.
Bet her Jesus takes a dim view of that before sending her off to the flames eternal.
We absolutely should mandate that all hospitals affiliated with a religious group sever their relationship. Medical care should never be tied to a religion.