My wish for the new year? That we permanently separate church from state.
(I know. I might as well wish for conservative Christians to actually live up to what their savior told them to do and feed, clothe and house the poor.
We had that for a brief moment on December 17, 1791 after Virginia became the eleventh state to ratify the Bill of Rights, thus adding it to the constitution. Maybe thirty seconds later, the preachers picked up their hammers to start trying to break it down.
NOGODZ20, The day is coming. And I think it will begin after the criminals are finally arrested. The U.S. was not supposed to PRIVILEGE religion yet we did. This was the beginning of a big failure.
The presumption that Christians employ when they lose their shit over someone like Mamdani, swearing on a Quran while taking the oath of office, is STAGGERING. "You HAVE to swear on a bible," they say, to which my response is:
Exactly WHERE In Any Government Document Is That Requirement Specified?
Whereupon you get a lot of "er-um-ah" [frequently repeated, along with their insistence that the US is a Christian nation, though the only mentions of religion in the Constitution are RESTRICTIONS on religion. Sadly, these are mere FACTS. Christians have been known for a while to ignore or otherwise discount facts, in favor of claiming either persecution or blasphemy.
Sooner or later, those who want to ignore facts in favor of their own, self-created "reality" will run headlong into the truth of the above quote. The collision and subsequent consequences will NOT be pretty.
Troublesh00ter, When the U.S. violated the Constitution and intentions of separating State and Church by privileging religion (primarily christianity), the abuse began and never ended. Tax breaks, AKA, Subsidies from us all should end.
I’d opt for chocolate anything. Seriously though as a secular humanist an honestly practicing Muslim taking their oath on the Quran bothers me not at all. What does bother me is the zealot of any belief system. Zealotry of any stripe is a danger to life.
If you do that, you must let me know so I prepare make a batch of my spaghetti sauce, which was about five decades in creation before it was *just right*.
You don't have to stick your hand in my spaghetti sauce: a ladle will work just fine, and just pour it on the spaghetti.
The really good, home-made spaghetti sauces are as individual as fingerprints.
While many of them think this way, I think Hemant is giving them too much credit. Just look at the quoted exchange between awake Tapper and Ted Crockett.
𝑇ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑒’𝑠 𝑛𝑜 𝑙𝑎𝑤 𝑟𝑒𝑞𝑢𝑖𝑟𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑝𝑒𝑜𝑝𝑙𝑒 𝑡𝑜 𝑢𝑠𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝐵𝑖𝑏𝑙𝑒.
But so many of them think there is, because they get their legal knowledge from Fox "News" and reruns of 𝘗𝘦𝘳𝘳𝘺 𝘔𝘢𝘴𝘰𝘯. That the Right Wing Outrage Machine seized upon this fact to gin up fear among the rubes is unsurprising, even expected at this point.
When Keith Ellison , now attorney general of Minnesota, was sworn in as representative from Minnesota in 2007, he used Thomas Jefferson’s copy of the Koran. It also sparked controversies. Several presidents have also used documents/books other than the Christian Bible. Theodore Roosevelt didn’t use any prop and LBJ used a Catholic missal found on Air Force One.
Why don’t these creeps just get over it and learn the history of the U.S.?
I propose that all religious artifacts be removed from secular oaths and that they be replaced with the Oath of Assurance to the almighty Ceiling Cat that the nip will be plentiful. Being that it's the only true religion.
I guess these goobers don't recall that when the Vile Orange Cretin was sworn in a second time, he didn't even touch the alleged Bible...prolly because either he or it would have burst into flames.
This is America and America is for everyone looking for a better life 💓, also Christian nationalism is not about Christianity it's about taking power from Americans.
Christianity has been seeking to regain power and control ever since it lost it during the enlightenment. Constantine made Christianity the state religion, and until the enlightenment period had complete control over people lives and caused much suffering, and had slowed progress towards equality, tolerance, justice!
Real Christianity is about kindness, good will towards your fellow human being, who you are only being second in the identity as a servant of Christ, welcoming the stranger, and to look down on those who use the title Christian to spread fear in order gain power.
There's no requirement to use a bible for anything. Republican goobers are free to use their favorite coloring book or Jack Chick tract they picked up off the urinal.
As magic books go, everyone knows the Bible beats the Koran every day the week. I mean, just look at the countless tribes it has spawned! How much proof do you need, anyway? /S
Personally, I think swearing a person into office with his or her hand on a magic book is a tradition that needs to go away. People determined to do harm to this country wouldn't hesitate to place their hand on a Bible or some other magical talisman.
Argh, this is just the WORST deliberate mistranslation ever, since Pascal was a prominent apologist for Catholicism.
The actual quote is: "Never is evil committed so fully and so cheerfully as when it is done out of a false principle of conscience."
Pascal felt that humans in their natural state are morally flawed and incapable of achieving true virtue or knowing God without divine assistance, and that they're NOT disposed to do what that their conscience spontaneously tells them to do. He loathed the Jesuits, who claimed a "properly formed conscience" will be able to discern God's will, even when it conflicted with societal norms.
In know everyone is complaining that people like senator tubbyville are comfortable saying the quiet part loud. but you have to remember, the average age of a Republican is like 136. They don't have good hearing. Everything has to be said loud.
My wish for the new year? That we permanently separate church from state.
(I know. I might as well wish for conservative Christians to actually live up to what their savior told them to do and feed, clothe and house the poor.
We had that for a brief moment on December 17, 1791 after Virginia became the eleventh state to ratify the Bill of Rights, thus adding it to the constitution. Maybe thirty seconds later, the preachers picked up their hammers to start trying to break it down.
NOGODZ20, The day is coming. And I think it will begin after the criminals are finally arrested. The U.S. was not supposed to PRIVILEGE religion yet we did. This was the beginning of a big failure.
Well stated.
Thank you.
The presumption that Christians employ when they lose their shit over someone like Mamdani, swearing on a Quran while taking the oath of office, is STAGGERING. "You HAVE to swear on a bible," they say, to which my response is:
Exactly WHERE In Any Government Document Is That Requirement Specified?
Whereupon you get a lot of "er-um-ah" [frequently repeated, along with their insistence that the US is a Christian nation, though the only mentions of religion in the Constitution are RESTRICTIONS on religion. Sadly, these are mere FACTS. Christians have been known for a while to ignore or otherwise discount facts, in favor of claiming either persecution or blasphemy.
It's sorta what they do. 😝
FACTS ARE WOKE! So says, not Zarathoustra this time; but Christian Nationalists.
𝑅𝑒𝑎𝑙𝑖𝑡𝑦 𝑖𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑤ℎ𝑖𝑐ℎ, 𝑤ℎ𝑒𝑛 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑠𝑡𝑜𝑝 𝑏𝑒𝑙𝑖𝑒𝑣𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑖𝑛 𝑖𝑡, 𝑑𝑜𝑒𝑠𝑛'𝑡 𝑔𝑜 𝑎𝑤𝑎𝑦.
-- Philip K. Dick
Sooner or later, those who want to ignore facts in favor of their own, self-created "reality" will run headlong into the truth of the above quote. The collision and subsequent consequences will NOT be pretty.
Troublesh00ter, When the U.S. violated the Constitution and intentions of separating State and Church by privileging religion (primarily christianity), the abuse began and never ended. Tax breaks, AKA, Subsidies from us all should end.
Let them have their tax breaks. If (and only if) they can survive the legal hoops that secular non-profits have to jump through.
When I ever get elected I promise I will swear my oath with my hand on a plate of freshly cooked spaghetti.
I’d opt for chocolate anything. Seriously though as a secular humanist an honestly practicing Muslim taking their oath on the Quran bothers me not at all. What does bother me is the zealot of any belief system. Zealotry of any stripe is a danger to life.
And proudly wearing your colander.
R'amen! It would be hilarious!
With or without meatballs?
Depends on where they are worn.
Now, see, that's just heresy.
If you do that, you must let me know so I prepare make a batch of my spaghetti sauce, which was about five decades in creation before it was *just right*.
You don't have to stick your hand in my spaghetti sauce: a ladle will work just fine, and just pour it on the spaghetti.
The really good, home-made spaghetti sauces are as individual as fingerprints.
Honestly, I just wish that somebody would swear on Stranger in a Strange Land
Thou art God.
Share water!
May you grok deeply
Which one, the original or the unedited version that Ginny released after Robert's death? 😁 I enjoy both, but that second really needed some editing.
Haha honestly they'd both make people claim blasphemy! It'd be hilarious
Lol, I was about to comment something along those lines.
𝐴𝑛𝑑 𝑒𝑎𝑐ℎ 𝑜𝑛𝑒 𝑖𝑠 𝑖𝑛𝑓𝑢𝑟𝑖𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝐶ℎ𝑟𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑎𝑛 𝑧𝑒𝑎𝑙𝑜𝑡𝑠 𝑤ℎ𝑜 𝑓𝑎𝑙𝑠𝑒𝑙𝑦 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑘 ℎ𝑒’𝑠 𝑔𝑜𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑡𝑜 𝑖𝑚𝑝𝑜𝑠𝑒 ℎ𝑖𝑠 𝑟𝑒𝑙𝑖𝑔𝑖𝑜𝑢𝑠 𝑏𝑒𝑙𝑖𝑒𝑓𝑠 𝑜𝑛𝑡𝑜 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑐𝑖𝑡𝑦—𝑎𝑛 𝑎𝑛𝑡𝑖-𝐶𝑜𝑛𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑡𝑢𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛𝑎𝑙 𝑎𝑐𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑦 𝑏𝑒𝑙𝑖𝑒𝑣𝑒 𝑖𝑠 𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑒𝑟𝑣𝑒𝑑 𝑜𝑛𝑙𝑦 𝑓𝑜𝑟 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑚.
While many of them think this way, I think Hemant is giving them too much credit. Just look at the quoted exchange between awake Tapper and Ted Crockett.
𝑇ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑒’𝑠 𝑛𝑜 𝑙𝑎𝑤 𝑟𝑒𝑞𝑢𝑖𝑟𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑝𝑒𝑜𝑝𝑙𝑒 𝑡𝑜 𝑢𝑠𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝐵𝑖𝑏𝑙𝑒.
But so many of them think there is, because they get their legal knowledge from Fox "News" and reruns of 𝘗𝘦𝘳𝘳𝘺 𝘔𝘢𝘴𝘰𝘯. That the Right Wing Outrage Machine seized upon this fact to gin up fear among the rubes is unsurprising, even expected at this point.
I saw that exchange in real time, and that *blink* *blink* goober was just never able to get his hamster wheel up to speed on it.
"But Ah swored on the BAAHbul!" was a running joke in my house for years.
But, but, David Barton said they have to use a bible. I'll make up a quote of him saying that if you don't believe me.
Wait until they find out Raymond Burr was gay.
🤣
And Canadian
When Keith Ellison , now attorney general of Minnesota, was sworn in as representative from Minnesota in 2007, he used Thomas Jefferson’s copy of the Koran. It also sparked controversies. Several presidents have also used documents/books other than the Christian Bible. Theodore Roosevelt didn’t use any prop and LBJ used a Catholic missal found on Air Force One.
Why don’t these creeps just get over it and learn the history of the U.S.?
Learn? Ha ha ha ha ha! You funny!
Learning requires a functioning brain.
I propose that all religious artifacts be removed from secular oaths and that they be replaced with the Oath of Assurance to the almighty Ceiling Cat that the nip will be plentiful. Being that it's the only true religion.
Happy effing New Year's, you filthy heathens!
https://ibb.co/39jRGbT1
I guess these goobers don't recall that when the Vile Orange Cretin was sworn in a second time, he didn't even touch the alleged Bible...prolly because either he or it would have burst into flames.
Why not both?
Wouldn't that be sweeeeeeeeeeet!
Trump never laid his hand on the bible during his last inauguration.
Fourth picture down:
https://nypost.com/2025/01/20/us-news/donald-trump-is-inaugurated-as-the-47th-president-of-the-united-states-photos/#4
Beat me to it. Should have scrolled down first. :)
I also noticed in another picture that Melania never lets her lips touch Trump...
Barf! Touching ANY part of Trump!
Especially with all that makeup on...
When 'swearing in', one book of fairytales is just as good as any other.
Or as bad. ;)
I could swear on a copy of All Woman, All Fire.
This is America and America is for everyone looking for a better life 💓, also Christian nationalism is not about Christianity it's about taking power from Americans.
Christianity has been seeking to regain power and control ever since it lost it during the enlightenment. Constantine made Christianity the state religion, and until the enlightenment period had complete control over people lives and caused much suffering, and had slowed progress towards equality, tolerance, justice!
Real Christianity is about kindness, good will towards your fellow human being, who you are only being second in the identity as a servant of Christ, welcoming the stranger, and to look down on those who use the title Christian to spread fear in order gain power.
There's no requirement to use a bible for anything. Republican goobers are free to use their favorite coloring book or Jack Chick tract they picked up off the urinal.
As magic books go, everyone knows the Bible beats the Koran every day the week. I mean, just look at the countless tribes it has spawned! How much proof do you need, anyway? /S
Personally, I think swearing a person into office with his or her hand on a magic book is a tradition that needs to go away. People determined to do harm to this country wouldn't hesitate to place their hand on a Bible or some other magical talisman.
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as from a religious perspective".
- Blaise Pascal
Argh, this is just the WORST deliberate mistranslation ever, since Pascal was a prominent apologist for Catholicism.
The actual quote is: "Never is evil committed so fully and so cheerfully as when it is done out of a false principle of conscience."
Pascal felt that humans in their natural state are morally flawed and incapable of achieving true virtue or knowing God without divine assistance, and that they're NOT disposed to do what that their conscience spontaneously tells them to do. He loathed the Jesuits, who claimed a "properly formed conscience" will be able to discern God's will, even when it conflicted with societal norms.
Or even underage girls.
https://ibb.co/nqT1ZXmJ
Stolen and reposted. But I will upvote it cuz I got manners and shit...
I doubt most average Christian fascist even understand the meaning of the phrases found in the American Constitution!
Most don't even know what is contained in the constitution. Just like their mango god.
Oh I dunno, 𝘴𝘰𝘮𝘦 of them must have studied it pretty extensively- how else could they violate it with such incredible consistency?
In know everyone is complaining that people like senator tubbyville are comfortable saying the quiet part loud. but you have to remember, the average age of a Republican is like 136. They don't have good hearing. Everything has to be said loud.
What?
sorry let me type louder so you can read, REPUBLICANS ARE REALLY REALLY OLD
THANKYOU.
It seems our new chew toy just fell off the turnip truck.
🤣🤣
In a battle of the wits, I think I'd bet on the turnips.
Or out the back of the garbage truck.
I can’t be bothered to respond to him directly. Big waste of time and effort to feed a troll.
I had a look at his stuff and thought about responding, then thought better of it. Better things to do. 😝
I don't have anything better to do right now, and I don't get to play with the chew toys very often, so I have engaged for a bit.
Look at this goober. Just look at him.
It's comical. He comes here to troll and demands we accede to his bigotry like some entitlement he is owed.