Declaring the Bible to be inerrant does not make the Bible inerrant, it merely demonstrates that these so-called Christians do not understand what the word inerrant means.
Which is probably why they want to declare the Bible to be inerrant. But then, they believe that faith is evidence, reason is irrational, tolerance is divisive, wisdom is foolishness, compassion is weakness, and fantasy is reality.
The sponsors of this bill apparently think that, if you repeat a lie often and loud enough, it somehow becomes the truth. Sometimes that actually works. Problem is that there are people out there [US! among others] who a) don't buy into the bullshit and b) express our opinions and let others know.
Let's hope that there are those in West Virginia who will also provide that function.
Perhaps ... but I suspect there are a few citizens of West Virginia who will learn of this bill and respond with: "What The Actual FUCK???" and a couple of 'em WILL actually contact their reps and read 'em the Riot Act.
And all it takes is one local to create "Standing," whereupon an outfit like the FFRF can come in, kick ass, and take names.
The sponsors of this bill think that they can talk about it on the campaign trail, and use it to get reelected. They also think they have plenty of time later to address the budget, and will continue to think that until there's like a week left in the session and they have their oh shirt moment.
So King David had 7 named wives and apparently a large number of concubines. Didn't Solomon have 300 wives and 700 concubines... I would think they would need to legalize polygamy and concubinage. What about Song of Songs and Ezekiel? Aren't they frankly pornographic? And as far as inerrant... where do we start? The 4 gospels are each mutually incompatible with the rest. Believe one, you have to discount the rest.
What I don’t understand about the bible is that if it is the word of God, why has it been “revised” by humans? Doesn’t that make it NOT the word of God but the word of the revisionists? No one has explained this to me. Or how penguins got to the Middle East to get on the ark.
As Sam Harris writes in "The End of Faith: Religion, Terror, and the Future of Reason", the "inerrant" Bible didn't just get that bit of nature wrong, it also screwed up royally on something ridiculously easy to figure out, the value of pi. Here's Sam:
Take a moment to imagine how good a book could be if it were written by the Creator of the universe. Such a book could contain a chapter on mathematics that, after two thousand years of continuous use, would still be the richest source of mathematical insight the earth has ever seen. Instead, the Bible contains some very obvious mathematical errors. In two places, for instance, the Good Book gives the ratio of a circumference of a circle to its diameter as simply 3 (1 Kings 7: 23-26 and 2 Chronicles 4: 2-5). We now refer to this constant relation with the Greek letter π. While the decimal expansion of π runs to infinity — 3.1415926535 . . . — we can calculate it to any degree of accuracy we like. Centuries before the oldest books of the Bible were written, both the Egyptians and Babylonians approximated π to a few decimal places. And yet the Bible — whether inerrant or divinely inspired — offers us an approximation that is terrible even by the standards of the ancient world. Needless to say, many religious people have found ingenious ways of rationalizing this. And yet, these rationalizations cannot conceal the obvious deficiency of the Bible as a source of mathematical insight. It is absolutely true to say that, if Archimedes had written a chapter of the Bible, the text would bear much greater evidence of the author’s “omniscience.”
West Virginia has anti-abortion laws that only have 3 exceptions (rape, incest and medical emergencies).
I call on these lawmakers to carefully re-read their bibles. There is NO prohibition of abortion within its pages. NONE. Abortion is freely practiced by that book's deity, its soldiers and its priests.
Sounds like Nat-Cs admitting that abortion has its roots in our country's 𝘩𝘪𝘴𝘵𝘰𝘳𝘺 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘵𝘳𝘢𝘥𝘪𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘴, to me. It's not just okay- it's commanded by your god! It's basically a sacrament!
They talk about the bible being the ultimate moral authority while ignoring the story of David setting up his field general Uriah to be killed in battlle so that David could possess Uriah's wife Bathsheba. And how does YHVH punish David and Bathsheba? He kills the innocent infant daughter that was the result of their union.
He took David's possession. A child has no worth of zir own, only as property of zir parents. That's why it's perfectly moral to offer your daughters to be gang raped by a mob. It's the same as giving them a fleshlight.
Christian morality is abject obedience to authority (God or his minions). Most people see it as they’re being “moral” as long as they don’t get caught, and it really only applies to other people anyway.
Aside from the blatant First Amendment issues implicated in this nonsense, you gotta love when they call a book that includes talking snakes, unicorns, sea serpents, giant demi-gods, and dragons 'inerrant'. Religion is its own special kind of brain worm, ain't it?
Anyone who says the bible is inerrant has never read it. It contradicts itself from Old Testament to New Testament, book to book, chapter to chapter, within the same chapter and even from one verse to the next.
Don't believe me, fundies? Read Proverbs 26:4. Then read Proverbs 26:5 and try to reconcile the two. You can't. First it tells you to do one thing and then it tells you to do the exact opposite. Which is it? You can't do both. That's why it's impossible to do everything the bible says.
Every year around Christmastime, from every pulpit in America, there's a reading of the nativity story, and they can't get out of the first chapter of the first book of the New Testament without a giant whopper of a contradiction 2 verses apart from each other:
(23) Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name IMMANU-EL, which being interpreted is, God with us. ...
(25) and ... she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.
And the sheep just sit there in their pews, nodding in agreement, and never is heard a discouraging word.
And the really crazy thing is that, according to the wry observation that "Every cake is a miraculous fulfillment of a prophecy called a recipe", they KNEW what they SHOULD have called him but still didn't do it. And still none of the gullible sheep so much as bleat.
God is jealous, vengeful, wrathful and smiteful in the OT, then he goes to therapy and sacrifices his son to himself, and turns into the loving god of the NT.
While. Also. Still. Being. The spiteful god. Of the OT. You know, burning everyone in Hell.
What part of the fact that the founding fathers created a secular government on purpose has never sunk in? Never mind. They know, they just choose to ignore it. Inconvenient truth.
"an accurate historical record of human and natural history*,"
There is a lot to debunk here. Let's start again (I nearly finished typing my comment when the page reloaded 🤬)
History :
OT : How could patriarchs use camels*** when they weren't domesticated yet ? How Solomon could marry an Egyptian princess** when they NEVER married outside their country ?
NT : Why Jesus has two paternal genealogies ?
Why he has a paternal genealogy at all ? Why there is no record in Roman archives of a charismatic Jewish preacher between 20 and 50 AD ? Especially when they are a very important source about various Jewish rebellions.
Plus, AFAIK there is no record of the astronomical phenomenon reported in one gospel.
Nature :
OT : Why the dinosaurs are not mentioned in the babble ? How did Noah chose between a Diplodocus, a Brachiosaurus or a Titanosaurus ? Or between a Saurolophus or a Parasaurolophus ? How did he got a couple (or seven) of Lesothosaurus**** ? How the boat didn't break with all this cargo ?
NT : How a man ride both a horse and a donkey at the same time when stirrups***** weren't invented yet ? Where there is the mention of Jesus being a martial art artist or a contortionist ? Why there is no record of the astrological phenomenon, mentioned in ONE gospel, by the Romans, the Greeks, the Parthians or the Chinese ?
* Do you heard that noise ? That Israel Finkelstein and Neil Silberman laughing.
** The exception is either Nefertiti or her oldest daughter Meritaton writing to the Hittite King to ask for one of his son to marry and make him Pharaoh.
For jeesus so loved the world it promised man eternal life. Then it used that promise to terrorize man with threats of eternal punishment for imaginary sins. Somehow they see this threat as "love?" No wonder they are so fucked up.
Ha! Thank you! I'd completely forgotten the title of that book; I remembered reading the story, but was drawing a complete blank on the author and title. It's been bugging me for 𝘢𝘨𝘦𝘴.
Wish I could see what’s in the window above the hippos. Larson likes to put little extras in his art (like the tentacle. Why does Noah have octopi?). :)
I always understood the familiar version to be a tad disrespectful unless you were married or addressing children. But then my French is about 60 years old, and it may well have been true then. I shall review my opinion forthwith.😇
You are one generation older and we don't have a professional relationship so "Tu" is correct. It would be impolite only if I used it without your permission
1. "Holy" bible. Not even all Christian denominations think the book is so sacred that "holy" is a necessary part of its name.
2. Sixty-six books. That is the Western Protestant canon. Catholics, Copts, and othe Christian denominations have more than that. Religious wars have started for less.
3. Divinely inspired and inerrant. Divinity cannot be demonstrated to exist, and any one of us can state at least one error without giving it much thought.
4. Foundational. Nope. We were founded mainly on Enlightenment principles, and any positive influence the bible may have had can be summed up with the Jefferson Bible.
5. Accurate record of human and natural history. Much of what the bible relates as "history" never really happened, and what did happen didn't happen the way it says. Claiming it to be an accurate record of natural history is just creationist nonsense that is demonstrably false.
6. Utmost authority for human moral behavior. Really? Owning humans is moral? West Virginia seems ignorant of its 𝘰𝘸𝘯 history here. If i remember correctly, WV became a state because they were against maintaining the right to own people. Genocide, rape, and incest are all there, condoned by the bible. Open the bible at random and do exactly what it tells you and more often than not you will go to prison.
We all know what this is really about. It's about power and control, and forcing a far right fascist theocracy.
You've got to be kidding. The REAL historical record of the Christian religion is one of unrestrained immorality. It's current practices continue to reflect that immorality. And look who's running all 3 branches of government. The most immoral beings on the planet.
No where in the bible talks about individual rights (even human rights) and democracy. The only form of government acceptable to the Christian fascist redneck’s imaginary friend is an absolute monarchy (most rednecks probably don’t know what absolute monarchy means), unless the republicans really want is an absolute monarchy.
They’re a happy with giving Trump a crown. While complaining he’s firing the wrong people. “I’m not DEI, I’m a good god fearin’ Trump supporting’ mother!”
EVERY abrahamic god is a dictator mking Stalin, Hitler and Pol Pot lok like great humanitarians. They never threatened people with eternity in hell, like "loving" jesus..
My first question would be: Which bible? There are hundreds of versions. Go into a bookstore and you’ll see an entire section devoted to bible. So, which version?
Declaring the Bible to be inerrant does not make the Bible inerrant, it merely demonstrates that these so-called Christians do not understand what the word inerrant means.
Which is probably why they want to declare the Bible to be inerrant. But then, they believe that faith is evidence, reason is irrational, tolerance is divisive, wisdom is foolishness, compassion is weakness, and fantasy is reality.
The sponsors of this bill apparently think that, if you repeat a lie often and loud enough, it somehow becomes the truth. Sometimes that actually works. Problem is that there are people out there [US! among others] who a) don't buy into the bullshit and b) express our opinions and let others know.
Let's hope that there are those in West Virginia who will also provide that function.
You, sir, are an optimist.
Perhaps ... but I suspect there are a few citizens of West Virginia who will learn of this bill and respond with: "What The Actual FUCK???" and a couple of 'em WILL actually contact their reps and read 'em the Riot Act.
And all it takes is one local to create "Standing," whereupon an outfit like the FFRF can come in, kick ass, and take names.
The sponsors of this bill think that they can talk about it on the campaign trail, and use it to get reelected. They also think they have plenty of time later to address the budget, and will continue to think that until there's like a week left in the session and they have their oh shirt moment.
The bible is inerrantly errant.
"The state of West Virginia recognizes the Holy Bible, complete with the sixty-six books of the Old and New Testaments..."
1. The Protestant Bible – 66 Books
2. The Catholic Bible – 73 Books
3. The Eastern Orthodox Bible – Typically 76 Books
4. The Ethiopian Orthodox Bible – 81 Books
Edited version: more detail at https://thebiblechat.com/how-many-books-are-in-the-bible
But, there is only one version that matters.
So King David had 7 named wives and apparently a large number of concubines. Didn't Solomon have 300 wives and 700 concubines... I would think they would need to legalize polygamy and concubinage. What about Song of Songs and Ezekiel? Aren't they frankly pornographic? And as far as inerrant... where do we start? The 4 gospels are each mutually incompatible with the rest. Believe one, you have to discount the rest.
I am convinced. I am officially an atheist.
Congrats. Help yourself to the 🍪🍪🍪
https://www.zentaur.org/memes/dark_side_cookies.jpg
Welcome to the party!
Even if they did understand the word, how would they even know if the Bible was inerrant or not? It's not as if they've ever read the damn thing.
Oh, you!
What I don’t understand about the bible is that if it is the word of God, why has it been “revised” by humans? Doesn’t that make it NOT the word of God but the word of the revisionists? No one has explained this to me. Or how penguins got to the Middle East to get on the ark.
The easy one first. Penguins got to the middle east to get on the ark by flying. In those days, they had wings.
And as far as the revisions go, it was only revised by men because God told them to revise it. Do you see, it’s all very easy when you know how..
Well said!
“accurate historical record of human and natural history,”
Bats are now birds.
And birds aren't real.
Then what was in my chicken cacciatore???
IT'S PEOPLE!!!
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Marketing guys were idiots or had a twisted sense of humor.
My "perfectly designed" eyes cannot reliably perceive colours. Is it green?
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They're going to start breeding us like cattle just to feed us?
Edited for typo
A hunter, of course! Why do you think they call it cacciatore?
I hope it wasn't angels, they're particularly toxic.
My magic 8 ball says bats are two-legged creatures that live in the hills of West Virginny.
That makes sense - they both fly.
:-)
https://www.birdnature.com/birds-that-cant-fly/
No such list for bats.
: )
Your list includes the Dodo, which reminded me of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0FHL2yKD1c
:-)
(The link is to a short video, it's an advert shown on telly some years ago. It's quite fun!)
That’s just batty!
Ya bird brain.
Silly grasshopper. Why don't you hop out of here on your four legs.
I am a very talented grasshopper, and I can hop on one leg. Gotcha, atheist!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8kPUXYfDJT4
either too many drugs or not enough, that’s all I can say!
Of course, it's the Mardi Gras weekend!
It's Grand Prix weekend. 🏎🏎🏎
And the people who wrote this POS are clearly BATS!
🦇💩 crazy.
As Sam Harris writes in "The End of Faith: Religion, Terror, and the Future of Reason", the "inerrant" Bible didn't just get that bit of nature wrong, it also screwed up royally on something ridiculously easy to figure out, the value of pi. Here's Sam:
Take a moment to imagine how good a book could be if it were written by the Creator of the universe. Such a book could contain a chapter on mathematics that, after two thousand years of continuous use, would still be the richest source of mathematical insight the earth has ever seen. Instead, the Bible contains some very obvious mathematical errors. In two places, for instance, the Good Book gives the ratio of a circumference of a circle to its diameter as simply 3 (1 Kings 7: 23-26 and 2 Chronicles 4: 2-5). We now refer to this constant relation with the Greek letter π. While the decimal expansion of π runs to infinity — 3.1415926535 . . . — we can calculate it to any degree of accuracy we like. Centuries before the oldest books of the Bible were written, both the Egyptians and Babylonians approximated π to a few decimal places. And yet the Bible — whether inerrant or divinely inspired — offers us an approximation that is terrible even by the standards of the ancient world. Needless to say, many religious people have found ingenious ways of rationalizing this. And yet, these rationalizations cannot conceal the obvious deficiency of the Bible as a source of mathematical insight. It is absolutely true to say that, if Archimedes had written a chapter of the Bible, the text would bear much greater evidence of the author’s “omniscience.”
All that after the Jews elites were deported to Babylone for a few centuries.
𝑇ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑡𝑎𝑡𝑒 𝑜𝑓 𝑊𝑒𝑠𝑡 𝑉𝑖𝑟𝑔𝑖𝑛𝑖𝑎 𝑟𝑒𝑐𝑜𝑔𝑛𝑖𝑧𝑒𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝐻𝑜𝑙𝑦 𝐵𝑖𝑏𝑙𝑒, 𝑐𝑜𝑚𝑝𝑙𝑒𝑡𝑒 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑖𝑥𝑡𝑦-𝑠𝑖𝑥 𝑏𝑜𝑜𝑘𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑂𝑙𝑑 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑁𝑒𝑤 𝑇𝑒𝑠𝑡𝑎𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑠, 𝑎𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑑𝑖𝑣𝑖𝑛𝑒𝑙𝑦 𝑖𝑛𝑠𝑝𝑖𝑟𝑒𝑑 [𝗪𝗥𝗢𝗡𝗚], 𝑖𝑛𝑒𝑟𝑟𝑎𝑛𝑡 [𝗔𝗕𝗦𝗢𝗟𝗨𝗧𝗘𝗟𝗬 𝗪𝗥𝗢𝗡𝗚] 𝑓𝑜𝑢𝑛𝑑𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛𝑎𝑙 𝑑𝑜𝑐𝑢𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡 [𝗜𝗡𝗔𝗥𝗚𝗨𝗔𝗕𝗟𝗬 𝗪𝗥𝗢𝗡𝗚] 𝑓𝑜𝑟 𝑜𝑢𝑟 𝑠𝑜𝑐𝑖𝑒𝑡𝑦 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑔𝑜𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑛𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡, 𝑎𝑛 𝑎𝑐𝑐𝑢𝑟𝑎𝑡𝑒 ℎ𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑜𝑟𝑖𝑐𝑎𝑙 𝑟𝑒𝑐𝑜𝑟𝑑 𝑜𝑓 ℎ𝑢𝑚𝑎𝑛 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑛𝑎𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑎𝑙 ℎ𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑜𝑟𝑦 [𝗗𝗘𝗠𝗢𝗡𝗦𝗧𝗥𝗔𝗕𝗟𝗬 𝗪𝗥𝗢𝗡𝗚], 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑢𝑡𝑚𝑜𝑠𝑡 𝑎𝑢𝑡ℎ𝑜𝑟𝑖𝑡𝑦 𝑓𝑜𝑟 ℎ𝑢𝑚𝑎𝑛 𝑚𝑜𝑟𝑎𝑙 𝑏𝑒ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑖𝑜𝑟 [𝗖𝗢𝗠𝗣𝗟𝗘𝗧𝗘𝗟𝗬 𝗔𝗡𝗗 𝗥𝗜𝗗𝗜𝗖𝗨𝗟𝗢𝗨𝗦𝗟𝗬 𝗪𝗥𝗢𝗡𝗚].
Could any statement be more incorrect in more ways? They must have WORKED to be that wrong!
I don't think they had to work very hard to be that wrong. Indoctrination is one hell of a drug.
It takes no effort to be wrong.
And too many people want to put in as little effort as possible, especially their religion.
West Virginia has anti-abortion laws that only have 3 exceptions (rape, incest and medical emergencies).
I call on these lawmakers to carefully re-read their bibles. There is NO prohibition of abortion within its pages. NONE. Abortion is freely practiced by that book's deity, its soldiers and its priests.
Rereading implies they already read the damn thing once. I'm not sure they did that.
It is a fancy decoration for the coffee table. NOBODY ever reads it.
Don’t forget that it’s a place to record family births, deaths and marriages. The only reason the book gets cracked open at all.
Sounds like Nat-Cs admitting that abortion has its roots in our country's 𝘩𝘪𝘴𝘵𝘰𝘳𝘺 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘵𝘳𝘢𝘥𝘪𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘴, to me. It's not just okay- it's commanded by your god! It's basically a sacrament!
They talk about the bible being the ultimate moral authority while ignoring the story of David setting up his field general Uriah to be killed in battlle so that David could possess Uriah's wife Bathsheba. And how does YHVH punish David and Bathsheba? He kills the innocent infant daughter that was the result of their union.
Moral? Spare me.
He took David's possession. A child has no worth of zir own, only as property of zir parents. That's why it's perfectly moral to offer your daughters to be gang raped by a mob. It's the same as giving them a fleshlight.
Innocent infant daughter? Hardly. She committed the sin of being born female. (Yahweh's a dick.)
Disagree. Dicks are beautiful things. YHWH is santorum.
YHWH is a monster, and if it were real it should be charged with crimes against humanity, convicted and made to serve its sentence in its own hell.
Pyromaniac. judges 20:23, 48 Deut 13:12-16 Isaiah 1:7-9, Zach Oh hell. You get the idea.
Christian morality is abject obedience to authority (God or his minions). Most people see it as they’re being “moral” as long as they don’t get caught, and it really only applies to other people anyway.
I see the term Christian morality and think "oxymoron."
I see Christian and think “moron”.
Christian and/or Trump supporter.
Poor omnieverything god never could aim. Maybe it is trying from 100 trillion light years away?
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Could it be that Christians like F*cked up morals? Much of the time it sure seems so.
It explains all the clergy folk who can't keep their hands off the bodies of children. Not just in this country, but across the globe.
Aside from the blatant First Amendment issues implicated in this nonsense, you gotta love when they call a book that includes talking snakes, unicorns, sea serpents, giant demi-gods, and dragons 'inerrant'. Religion is its own special kind of brain worm, ain't it?
Anyone who says the bible is inerrant has never read it. It contradicts itself from Old Testament to New Testament, book to book, chapter to chapter, within the same chapter and even from one verse to the next.
Don't believe me, fundies? Read Proverbs 26:4. Then read Proverbs 26:5 and try to reconcile the two. You can't. First it tells you to do one thing and then it tells you to do the exact opposite. Which is it? You can't do both. That's why it's impossible to do everything the bible says.
Every year around Christmastime, from every pulpit in America, there's a reading of the nativity story, and they can't get out of the first chapter of the first book of the New Testament without a giant whopper of a contradiction 2 verses apart from each other:
(23) Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name IMMANU-EL, which being interpreted is, God with us. ...
(25) and ... she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.
And the sheep just sit there in their pews, nodding in agreement, and never is heard a discouraging word.
And the really crazy thing is that, according to the wry observation that "Every cake is a miraculous fulfillment of a prophecy called a recipe", they KNEW what they SHOULD have called him but still didn't do it. And still none of the gullible sheep so much as bleat.
I always found these two a hoot:
Jesus is God: "The Father and I are one." John 10:30
But wait...
Jesus is not God: "My Father is greater than I." John 14:28
Make up your mind, Son of Man. You can't be both the same AND lesser.
Fake humility to please a jealous God.
“utmost authority for human moral behavior”
Kill unruly children, pay off rape victim's fathers, and, um, what else.... oh yeah, slavery.
Drunkenly raping and impregnating both your virginal daughters after first offering them up to be raped by a mob to protect two male strangers.
Dashing babies against rocks, murdering entire cities and cutting babies from their mother’s wombs then keeping the virgin girls as sex slaves, etc.
You've forgotten the 'smiting'. My memory is a bit hazy but wasn't there a good bit of ''smiting' going on?
Yahweh did that when the Israelites weren't sufficiently genocidal on their own.
God is jealous, vengeful, wrathful and smiteful in the OT, then he goes to therapy and sacrifices his son to himself, and turns into the loving god of the NT.
While. Also. Still. Being. The spiteful god. Of the OT. You know, burning everyone in Hell.
https://imgflip.com/i/9ltxqg
this made me laugh!
What part of the fact that the founding fathers created a secular government on purpose has never sunk in? Never mind. They know, they just choose to ignore it. Inconvenient truth.
"the founding fathers created a secular government"
FAKE NEWS!
"an accurate historical record of human and natural history*,"
There is a lot to debunk here. Let's start again (I nearly finished typing my comment when the page reloaded 🤬)
History :
OT : How could patriarchs use camels*** when they weren't domesticated yet ? How Solomon could marry an Egyptian princess** when they NEVER married outside their country ?
NT : Why Jesus has two paternal genealogies ?
Why he has a paternal genealogy at all ? Why there is no record in Roman archives of a charismatic Jewish preacher between 20 and 50 AD ? Especially when they are a very important source about various Jewish rebellions.
Plus, AFAIK there is no record of the astronomical phenomenon reported in one gospel.
Nature :
OT : Why the dinosaurs are not mentioned in the babble ? How did Noah chose between a Diplodocus, a Brachiosaurus or a Titanosaurus ? Or between a Saurolophus or a Parasaurolophus ? How did he got a couple (or seven) of Lesothosaurus**** ? How the boat didn't break with all this cargo ?
NT : How a man ride both a horse and a donkey at the same time when stirrups***** weren't invented yet ? Where there is the mention of Jesus being a martial art artist or a contortionist ? Why there is no record of the astrological phenomenon, mentioned in ONE gospel, by the Romans, the Greeks, the Parthians or the Chinese ?
* Do you heard that noise ? That Israel Finkelstein and Neil Silberman laughing.
** The exception is either Nefertiti or her oldest daughter Meritaton writing to the Hittite King to ask for one of his son to marry and make him Pharaoh.
*** https://armstronginstitute.org/153-camels-proof-that-the-bible-is-false
**** As indicated by their name, Lesothosaurus lived on the African continent.
***** https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stirrup
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"Where there is the mention of Jesus being a martial art artist or a contortionist ?"
Both are covered in the only factually accurate gospel: 𝘓𝘢𝘮𝘣: 𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘎𝘰𝘴𝘱𝘦𝘭 𝘈𝘤𝘤𝘰𝘳𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘰 𝘉𝘪𝘧𝘧, 𝘊𝘩𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘵'𝘴 𝘊𝘩𝘪𝘭𝘥𝘩𝘰𝘰𝘥 𝘗𝘢𝘭. Jew Do was created just for him.
For jeesus so loved the world it promised man eternal life. Then it used that promise to terrorize man with threats of eternal punishment for imaginary sins. Somehow they see this threat as "love?" No wonder they are so fucked up.
Ha! Thank you! I'd completely forgotten the title of that book; I remembered reading the story, but was drawing a complete blank on the author and title. It's been bugging me for 𝘢𝘨𝘦𝘴.
Ancient Chinese astronomers recorded a huge meteor about the time of Sodom & Gomorrah. An air burst explains the fire and brimstone claims.
Assuming two such cities existed. Last time I checked History/Discovery had documentaries on at least 4 sites of the fabled cities.
There were probably not enough humans around at that time to clean up after the animals on the ark The stench must have been toxic if not lethal..
https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.Zva9Du7TMN8ChSE3TPRKVQAAAA?pid=ImgDet&w=474&h=595&rs=1
Wish I could see what’s in the window above the hippos. Larson likes to put little extras in his art (like the tentacle. Why does Noah have octopi?). :)
Because apples weren't available. 🤷
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIhRBcr1kuQ
Pour vous.
Are you upset with me ? Why do you use "vous" ? 🤣
I always understood the familiar version to be a tad disrespectful unless you were married or addressing children. But then my French is about 60 years old, and it may well have been true then. I shall review my opinion forthwith.😇
You are one generation older and we don't have a professional relationship so "Tu" is correct. It would be impolite only if I used it without your permission
𝑇ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑡𝑎𝑡𝑒 𝑜𝑓 𝑊𝑒𝑠𝑡 𝑉𝑖𝑟𝑔𝑖𝑛𝑖𝑎 𝑟𝑒𝑐𝑜𝑔𝑛𝑖𝑧𝑒𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝐻𝑜𝑙𝑦 𝐵𝑖𝑏𝑙𝑒, 𝑐𝑜𝑚𝑝𝑙𝑒𝑡𝑒 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑖𝑥𝑡𝑦-𝑠𝑖𝑥 𝑏𝑜𝑜𝑘𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑂𝑙𝑑 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑁𝑒𝑤 𝑇𝑒𝑠𝑡𝑎𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑠, 𝑎𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑑𝑖𝑣𝑖𝑛𝑒𝑙𝑦 𝑖𝑛𝑠𝑝𝑖𝑟𝑒𝑑, 𝑖𝑛𝑒𝑟𝑟𝑎𝑛𝑡 𝑓𝑜𝑢𝑛𝑑𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛𝑎𝑙 𝑑𝑜𝑐𝑢𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝑓𝑜𝑟 𝑜𝑢𝑟 𝑠𝑜𝑐𝑖𝑒𝑡𝑦 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑔𝑜𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑛𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡, 𝑎𝑛 𝑎𝑐𝑐𝑢𝑟𝑎𝑡𝑒 ℎ𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑜𝑟𝑖𝑐𝑎𝑙 𝑟𝑒𝑐𝑜𝑟𝑑 𝑜𝑓 ℎ𝑢𝑚𝑎𝑛 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑛𝑎𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑎𝑙 ℎ𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑜𝑟𝑦, 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑢𝑡𝑚𝑜𝑠𝑡 𝑎𝑢𝑡ℎ𝑜𝑟𝑖𝑡𝑦 𝑓𝑜𝑟 ℎ𝑢𝑚𝑎𝑛 𝑚𝑜𝑟𝑎𝑙 𝑏𝑒ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑖𝑜𝑟.
Let's break down the lies:
1. "Holy" bible. Not even all Christian denominations think the book is so sacred that "holy" is a necessary part of its name.
2. Sixty-six books. That is the Western Protestant canon. Catholics, Copts, and othe Christian denominations have more than that. Religious wars have started for less.
3. Divinely inspired and inerrant. Divinity cannot be demonstrated to exist, and any one of us can state at least one error without giving it much thought.
4. Foundational. Nope. We were founded mainly on Enlightenment principles, and any positive influence the bible may have had can be summed up with the Jefferson Bible.
5. Accurate record of human and natural history. Much of what the bible relates as "history" never really happened, and what did happen didn't happen the way it says. Claiming it to be an accurate record of natural history is just creationist nonsense that is demonstrably false.
6. Utmost authority for human moral behavior. Really? Owning humans is moral? West Virginia seems ignorant of its 𝘰𝘸𝘯 history here. If i remember correctly, WV became a state because they were against maintaining the right to own people. Genocide, rape, and incest are all there, condoned by the bible. Open the bible at random and do exactly what it tells you and more often than not you will go to prison.
We all know what this is really about. It's about power and control, and forcing a far right fascist theocracy.
Insecure little assholes simply cannot stop trying to shove their hate-filled goddamned superstitious bulshit down our throats
"...utmost authority for human moral behavior."
You've got to be kidding. The REAL historical record of the Christian religion is one of unrestrained immorality. It's current practices continue to reflect that immorality. And look who's running all 3 branches of government. The most immoral beings on the planet.
It's a foundational text for the delusional and an instruction book on how to be a terrible person.
Some things just bring out the assholery in assholes.
No where in the bible talks about individual rights (even human rights) and democracy. The only form of government acceptable to the Christian fascist redneck’s imaginary friend is an absolute monarchy (most rednecks probably don’t know what absolute monarchy means), unless the republicans really want is an absolute monarchy.
“So far as I can remember, there is not one word in the Gospels in praise of intelligence.”
—Bertrand Russell, English mathematician, philosopher, and peace activist
Plenty on abject subjugation to a sadistic god.
Intelligence implies critical thinking skills.
That is so true!
They’re a happy with giving Trump a crown. While complaining he’s firing the wrong people. “I’m not DEI, I’m a good god fearin’ Trump supporting’ mother!”
EVERY abrahamic god is a dictator mking Stalin, Hitler and Pol Pot lok like great humanitarians. They never threatened people with eternity in hell, like "loving" jesus..
My first question would be: Which bible? There are hundreds of versions. Go into a bookstore and you’ll see an entire section devoted to bible. So, which version?
The right one. ;)
😁😁😁😁
Is it in the fiction section of the bookstore?