Christian nationalism frightens me about as much as anything. The idea their brand of religion could be imposed on a country as large and diverse as the Unite States with a happy ending, is about as stupid and dangerous as thinking gets. If the preachers ever acquired the power they evidently dream of, they would be killing one another within a a month of doctrinal errors. Thus demonstrating why mixing religion and government is the same terrible idea it has always been.
If they were inherently religious then they would go around "poofing" things and they wouldn't need money anyway. And they would sell their belongings and not worry about the morrow. Okay not the brightest advice ever, but nobody ever accused God of rocket science.
We could solve this once and for all by repealing any tax exemptions from churches. It's not like most of them even bother with the whole charity thing anyway.
Seems as though if you're going to be an employer in Wisconsin, even a religious employer, it is incumbent on you to BEHAVE and PERFORM like an employer, and that includes covering your responsibilities regarding unemployment taxes ... and I'm all for it.
The problem is that the religious zealots in SCOTUS will probably overrule this decision, because they can't stand the idea of LAWS superseding their beliefs.
“By appealing this decision to the U.S. Supreme Court, the Catholic Church and the Becket Fund folks are basically saying that screwing over the unemployed is also a part of their faith, negating whatever goodwill they may have preserved by focusing on helping the less fortunate.“
But if they don’t screw over the less fortunate, how will they ever have less fortunate to help with their charities? (And then convert because they’re now vulnerable and more susceptible to the grift.)
AMEN to this! The Christo-Fascists don’t separate Church from State, not in their politics, not in their investments. (Just look at the enormous money spent buying up farmland in Nebraska and Iowa by the Mormon Church! ) Their aim is to overthrow this democracy—that is hardly a “religious” concern.
ALL religious organizations should be paying taxes anyway, same as I do, same as any business does. It's absurd that they do not...... they are free to perpetuate their freeloading, gifting, extremism, coercion, control with their cult-like, god-like complexes.
The better question is... why are there exemptions for religious organizations to begin with? What have they ever done to earn that privilege? We have a start date for this, in Wisconsin at least- 1972 (*𝘦𝘥𝘪𝘵- and Wisconsin, evidently, has had unemployment insurance on the books since 1932- three years before the Social Security Act). Run the numbers. Let's see if carving out that exemption made things better, or worse.
I know which outcome I'm betting 𝘮𝘺 $0.80, spare hair tie, and pocket lint on...
Christian nationalism frightens me about as much as anything. The idea their brand of religion could be imposed on a country as large and diverse as the Unite States with a happy ending, is about as stupid and dangerous as thinking gets. If the preachers ever acquired the power they evidently dream of, they would be killing one another within a a month of doctrinal errors. Thus demonstrating why mixing religion and government is the same terrible idea it has always been.
If they were inherently religious then they would go around "poofing" things and they wouldn't need money anyway. And they would sell their belongings and not worry about the morrow. Okay not the brightest advice ever, but nobody ever accused God of rocket science.
Might as well enjoy this ruling until it is turned over by the Catholics in the SC.
We could solve this once and for all by repealing any tax exemptions from churches. It's not like most of them even bother with the whole charity thing anyway.
Seems as though if you're going to be an employer in Wisconsin, even a religious employer, it is incumbent on you to BEHAVE and PERFORM like an employer, and that includes covering your responsibilities regarding unemployment taxes ... and I'm all for it.
The problem is that the religious zealots in SCOTUS will probably overrule this decision, because they can't stand the idea of LAWS superseding their beliefs.
UPDATE" The nutty North Carolina superintendent
https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/14/politics/kfile-gop-nominee-north-carolina-public-schools-michele-morrow-executing-democrats/index.html
Normally hate getting off topic this early in the thread but feels this is important.
Ironic their choice of bible quote given the case was about CCB not rendering unto Caesar…
"are basically saying that screwing over the unemployed is also a part of their faith"
I disagree, what they are basically saying is that holding on as tight as possible to every nickel is the PURPOSE of their faith.
“Advancing Catholicism “ sounds weirdly oxymoronic.
“By appealing this decision to the U.S. Supreme Court, the Catholic Church and the Becket Fund folks are basically saying that screwing over the unemployed is also a part of their faith, negating whatever goodwill they may have preserved by focusing on helping the less fortunate.“
But if they don’t screw over the less fortunate, how will they ever have less fortunate to help with their charities? (And then convert because they’re now vulnerable and more susceptible to the grift.)
"neither attempt to imbue program participants with the Catholic faith nor supply any religious materials to program participants or employees."
Mandatory mass every day, bible reading during meals and prayers before job search appointments in 5... 4...
Funny, I always thought "render unto Caesar what is Caesar's" was an argument for churches TO pay taxes.
AMEN to this! The Christo-Fascists don’t separate Church from State, not in their politics, not in their investments. (Just look at the enormous money spent buying up farmland in Nebraska and Iowa by the Mormon Church! ) Their aim is to overthrow this democracy—that is hardly a “religious” concern.
"must also be primarily religious in nature."
If they were primarily religious in nature then they would be staring at the sun and venerating mummified pieces parts of fake saints.
ALL religious organizations should be paying taxes anyway, same as I do, same as any business does. It's absurd that they do not...... they are free to perpetuate their freeloading, gifting, extremism, coercion, control with their cult-like, god-like complexes.
The better question is... why are there exemptions for religious organizations to begin with? What have they ever done to earn that privilege? We have a start date for this, in Wisconsin at least- 1972 (*𝘦𝘥𝘪𝘵- and Wisconsin, evidently, has had unemployment insurance on the books since 1932- three years before the Social Security Act). Run the numbers. Let's see if carving out that exemption made things better, or worse.
I know which outcome I'm betting 𝘮𝘺 $0.80, spare hair tie, and pocket lint on...