As a teacher in Arizona, I’m not even allowed in my classroom over the summer because the large (relatively wealthy as AZ districts go) district won’t cool any part of the building other than the front office. Teachers started back yesterday and many still don’t have air turned on in their rooms. Cañon is cooling that building through the summer with temps over 105 with no compensation. On a side note, anyone who considers arming teachers needs to understand teachers have less and less control over choosing books and apparently can’t be trusted with thermostat control. Reconcile that.
Well, the teachers would use their own guns and ammunition, thermostat costs money, and letting actual educators choose the books they are going to teach out of is i̶n̶d̶o̶c̶t̶r̶i̶n̶a̶t̶i̶o̶n̶ interference with their indoctrination.
I’m picturing a gun rack and individual bullets plastered with “bought with teacher’s personal funds” stickers like Baltimore teachers used. 🤣 And it’s right next to the calendar bulletin board.
A lot of people can’t grok this but when I attended a tiny high school in rural Iowa in the 1970s, boys would bring their hunting guns into the school and store them in the lockers. The rule was they had to be unloaded and the locker had to be locked. No one wanted to leave their gun in the car or pickup during the school day in case one of the town drunks took it into his head to break a car window and steal the gun. Then they went hunting after school without needing to waste time going home first. The principal or a teacher would check to make sure they weren’t loaded.
That would likely result in heavy facility use and maybe damage, which the church would have to pay for. So make it $6 a pop, I'm sure that would cover the extra expenses.
Christian entitlement runs deep in this country, and this school district is clearly subsidizing a church. It doesn't help that the the elected officials who made these decisions are abetting the church at tax payers expense.
Ministry personnel dishonesty coverage? What kind of insurer is going to offer 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵? Even if it's $5000 per sermon instead of $5000 per lie, that's a quarter million per year, minimum. If it's per lie, it would bankrupt Bezos, Musk, and Zuckerberg together.
I'm guessing the company threw it in for free, and that the language used to define what counts as 'dishonesty' is so muddy that they'll never have to pay out.
I saw some moron trying to claim the reason they can still be offended is because the Greek pantheon is tied to the Word as well as the other religions’ gods. All I took from that was an admission that Christianity plagiarized all the religions to convert their followers. Not a good reason for them to be pissing their pants over something that wasn’t about them.
It would works very well in a place where those who understand English can be counted on one hand, two if I add the Pakistanis or Indian delivery men 😁
That’s me. I’m an expat in a Spanish speaking country, therefore a guest resident. However, kids down here speak far better English than I do Spanish so would understand quite well what my sign was saying.
Oh but dontcha know, viagra treats other conditions and men die from a lack of access to it!!!
An actual response to this idea. Claiming that men are taking it as a treatment for a condition rather than a crutch to fuck. I think they’re trying to counter the claims, actual facts, that women use birth control pills, shots and IUDs to treat conditions like endometriosis, and not only for preventing pregnancy. Viagra might have an effect on men’s conditions that cause erectile dysfunction, but it is not a treatment for them. And no one has died from not having sex.
Oh ? I am volunteering to let men experiment vomiting due to pain for about 24 hours every month, by punching their joy and pride as many times as necessary.
According to my doctor it was originally developed as a heart medication. Then they found this 'side effect' and someone at Pfizer saw *BILLONS* of dollar signs. I notice though no one claims it's against their religion to sign paperwork for the government to pay for it for their employees.
I doubt it. There are most likely much more effective drugs for heart problems. I’m certainly on a couple. Mostly my doctor was trying to reassure me that it wouldn’t complicate my heart problems.
Whoa, everyone calm down. The local citizens pay their taxes to support the school. The local citizens are all Christians (or should be) and are welcome at the church services. Since they are already paying for the school and its upkeep, they should be getting to use it for free. That's the American way. You complainers are just a bunch of Godless commies with demons in your heart.
Did Family Church even take a stab at praying to their god in their savior's name to miraculously provide their needs? Sure doesn't look like it. They relied on humans to give them a sweetheart deal no one else would get without an ancient torture/execution device attached to them.
Once again, an entity that pays no taxes demands that taxpayers pick up the tab.
This goes on all the time. The Baptist Convention is a MASSIVE real estate empire pretending to be a religion. They cannot "plant" churches fast enough. Sometimes obtaining the perfect property takes a little time. Schools are big on their list of interim places. Make no mistake, the (S.) Baptist Convention shows up in a locale they aim to extract every available penny they can get from every government source. It isn't even about the money - the SBC has more than most countries - it's about taking monies AWAY from non-Baptists. They make organized crime look like child's play.
I thought I might have mistaken the inside of the school gym for the inside of Family Church BCC, so I did some digging. Every image of various church events matches this article's meme. And I've never seen a school gym with brick walls on the inside. Or have fancy, ever-changing colored lights. And what are those 4 pillars about?
Seems to me that if this is the school gym, FCBCC put a lot of cash into that "stage set."
I'm going to guess that at a small, rural school the gym also doubles as the assembly and performance area with a stage at one end and basketball hoops that crank up out of the way. However, I do wonder about all of the stage props (like those pillars) and electronics. Does the church completely remove them after every service? Leave them in place? Store them on-site?
I expect they only remove them when the space is scheduled to be used for something else like a school play, and they are probably stored on site. None of it looks more cumbersome than what two people could handle in 10 minutes, and would probably fit in a van. Well it depends on if the screen is theirs or the school's.
Edit: Never mind about the screen. It's not an LED, it's a projection screen.
This is persecution of the highest order!!!! How dare people expect the church to pay market rates for anything. You should be giving to the church freely so it can provide the charity the community needs. Like buying a home for the pastor, and sending his kids to private school, and making sure his vehicle is the best car in town. Give us your McDonald’s money!!! We will consider, we’ll look into really, setting up a soup kitchen or food bank. Well, maybe donate to a soup kitchen or food bank since we don’t have our own building to house it anyway.
Arizona School District Spending Report for Fiscal Year 2023 (most recent information):
Canon’s Administrative Costs were $3053 per pupil while our peer average (meaning other districts similar to ours) was $4259. This is a $1,206 dollar difference.
As a teacher in Arizona, I’m not even allowed in my classroom over the summer because the large (relatively wealthy as AZ districts go) district won’t cool any part of the building other than the front office. Teachers started back yesterday and many still don’t have air turned on in their rooms. Cañon is cooling that building through the summer with temps over 105 with no compensation. On a side note, anyone who considers arming teachers needs to understand teachers have less and less control over choosing books and apparently can’t be trusted with thermostat control. Reconcile that.
Well, the teachers would use their own guns and ammunition, thermostat costs money, and letting actual educators choose the books they are going to teach out of is i̶n̶d̶o̶c̶t̶r̶i̶n̶a̶t̶i̶o̶n̶ interference with their indoctrination.
I’m picturing a gun rack and individual bullets plastered with “bought with teacher’s personal funds” stickers like Baltimore teachers used. 🤣 And it’s right next to the calendar bulletin board.
I'm picturing a PTA bake sale for ammo, to help out the teachers who can't afford it.
Nah, this is Arizona! Our PTO certainly has a parent who is or has a connection for ammo donations.
A lot of people can’t grok this but when I attended a tiny high school in rural Iowa in the 1970s, boys would bring their hunting guns into the school and store them in the lockers. The rule was they had to be unloaded and the locker had to be locked. No one wanted to leave their gun in the car or pickup during the school day in case one of the town drunks took it into his head to break a car window and steal the gun. Then they went hunting after school without needing to waste time going home first. The principal or a teacher would check to make sure they weren’t loaded.
At $5 a pop, an organization should rent the school and use it to provide some temporary shelter to homeless folk.
That would likely result in heavy facility use and maybe damage, which the church would have to pay for. So make it $6 a pop, I'm sure that would cover the extra expenses.
You lousy capitalist!
Christian entitlement runs deep in this country, and this school district is clearly subsidizing a church. It doesn't help that the the elected officials who made these decisions are abetting the church at tax payers expense.
A church and a religion that cannot support itself, has a god that does not support it and calls on the civies to help support them and their needs.
This is what Benjamin Franklin defined as a bad religion.
Imagine being a god who doesn't support its own church.
It's like hey, Lärd: we're doing this to honor YOU, ASSHOLE!
Least you can do is kick in a couple bucks....
Or a Mercedes Benz.
Well after all, YHVHs friends all have Rolls-Royces and he must make a-mends.
And Porsches.
If I were an insurance company, the rate for that type of coverage for anyone, let alone a church, would be unaffordable.
It’s funny that an organization that sells itself on being the ultimate arbiter on ethics and morality requires a personnel dishonesty clause.
Ministry personnel dishonesty coverage? What kind of insurer is going to offer 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵? Even if it's $5000 per sermon instead of $5000 per lie, that's a quarter million per year, minimum. If it's per lie, it would bankrupt Bezos, Musk, and Zuckerberg together.
If only.
Yeah, I can see where that would be a good thing.
I'm guessing the company threw it in for free, and that the language used to define what counts as 'dishonesty' is so muddy that they'll never have to pay out.
Liars for shareholders lying to cover the asses of liars for Jesus? NOW it makes sense.
Technically it would be 'lying 𝑡𝑜 𝑡𝑎𝑘𝑒 𝑎𝑑𝑣𝑎𝑛𝑡𝑎𝑔𝑒 𝑜𝑓 liars for Jesus.' But yeah. No honor amongst thieves.
Sometimes they are the same.
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I saw some moron trying to claim the reason they can still be offended is because the Greek pantheon is tied to the Word as well as the other religions’ gods. All I took from that was an admission that Christianity plagiarized all the religions to convert their followers. Not a good reason for them to be pissing their pants over something that wasn’t about them.
🙄
As a French and a Pagan I only have one thing to say to them. Fuck off.
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It would works very well in a place where those who understand English can be counted on one hand, two if I add the Pakistanis or Indian delivery men 😁
That’s me. I’m an expat in a Spanish speaking country, therefore a guest resident. However, kids down here speak far better English than I do Spanish so would understand quite well what my sign was saying.
Maybe in my next life?
Hola ¿ Cómo estás ?
(Spanish as third language in 8th and 9th grades).
They should put that on a wallet sized card so people can hand it out to assholes.
Love. That!
IF pregnancy is god's will,
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Oh but dontcha know, viagra treats other conditions and men die from a lack of access to it!!!
An actual response to this idea. Claiming that men are taking it as a treatment for a condition rather than a crutch to fuck. I think they’re trying to counter the claims, actual facts, that women use birth control pills, shots and IUDs to treat conditions like endometriosis, and not only for preventing pregnancy. Viagra might have an effect on men’s conditions that cause erectile dysfunction, but it is not a treatment for them. And no one has died from not having sex.
Oh ? I am volunteering to let men experiment vomiting due to pain for about 24 hours every month, by punching their joy and pride as many times as necessary.
According to my doctor it was originally developed as a heart medication. Then they found this 'side effect' and someone at Pfizer saw *BILLONS* of dollar signs. I notice though no one claims it's against their religion to sign paperwork for the government to pay for it for their employees.
I heard blood pressure medicine. But that is to agree with your general point.
Are doctors prescribing it for heart disease? Can I get it to control my hypertension or is it just for men?
I doubt it. There are most likely much more effective drugs for heart problems. I’m certainly on a couple. Mostly my doctor was trying to reassure me that it wouldn’t complicate my heart problems.
I want to upvote that 146 more times.
You know what you have to do. Create 145 more email addresses.
She's truly Divine.
Whoa, everyone calm down. The local citizens pay their taxes to support the school. The local citizens are all Christians (or should be) and are welcome at the church services. Since they are already paying for the school and its upkeep, they should be getting to use it for free. That's the American way. You complainers are just a bunch of Godless commies with demons in your heart.
And proud of it. I hope god hears this. It is lousy at communicating.
Did Family Church even take a stab at praying to their god in their savior's name to miraculously provide their needs? Sure doesn't look like it. They relied on humans to give them a sweetheart deal no one else would get without an ancient torture/execution device attached to them.
Once again, an entity that pays no taxes demands that taxpayers pick up the tab.
Ah, pardon Monsieur ! They totally did, their god told them to rip off the gullible.
god, the universe's biggest con.
In other words: Standard Operating Procedure for Christians. :)
Sorry for the late reply. Multitasking right now. Got a little carried away.
TMI 😁
Hey, I've got my laptop's camera lens covered up! :D
I would be more worried about the keyboard. Food is a bitch to clean 😁
Yeah...food...
This goes on all the time. The Baptist Convention is a MASSIVE real estate empire pretending to be a religion. They cannot "plant" churches fast enough. Sometimes obtaining the perfect property takes a little time. Schools are big on their list of interim places. Make no mistake, the (S.) Baptist Convention shows up in a locale they aim to extract every available penny they can get from every government source. It isn't even about the money - the SBC has more than most countries - it's about taking monies AWAY from non-Baptists. They make organized crime look like child's play.
They took lessons from the Catholic Church then?
Let’s see The Satanic Temple get that kind of deal. No? 🙄
Hahaha hahahaha (slapping my thighs a lot) hahahahaha.
Taking a good look at the inside of Family Church's swank digs, it seems to me that they can afford to pony up a lot more that 5 bucks.
To add:
I thought I might have mistaken the inside of the school gym for the inside of Family Church BCC, so I did some digging. Every image of various church events matches this article's meme. And I've never seen a school gym with brick walls on the inside. Or have fancy, ever-changing colored lights. And what are those 4 pillars about?
Seems to me that if this is the school gym, FCBCC put a lot of cash into that "stage set."
I'm going to guess that at a small, rural school the gym also doubles as the assembly and performance area with a stage at one end and basketball hoops that crank up out of the way. However, I do wonder about all of the stage props (like those pillars) and electronics. Does the church completely remove them after every service? Leave them in place? Store them on-site?
I expect they only remove them when the space is scheduled to be used for something else like a school play, and they are probably stored on site. None of it looks more cumbersome than what two people could handle in 10 minutes, and would probably fit in a van. Well it depends on if the screen is theirs or the school's.
Edit: Never mind about the screen. It's not an LED, it's a projection screen.
My HS had a gym with brick walls. Outside and in. It was built 1950s when energy was cheap.
My Jr. High was cement blocks inside and out, inside was painted a pale, sickly green.
Excellent detective work, NOGODZ20. A rewarding career as an Internet Sleuth awaits you....
This is persecution of the highest order!!!! How dare people expect the church to pay market rates for anything. You should be giving to the church freely so it can provide the charity the community needs. Like buying a home for the pastor, and sending his kids to private school, and making sure his vehicle is the best car in town. Give us your McDonald’s money!!! We will consider, we’ll look into really, setting up a soup kitchen or food bank. Well, maybe donate to a soup kitchen or food bank since we don’t have our own building to house it anyway.
END THE PERSECUTION!!!!
And the private plane so that the pastor doesn't have to travel in demons infested planes.
A plane that can go super-sonic -- NOT super-demonic.
Beat me to it just as I was about to type it (it's what I get for reading and upvoting before commenting). :)
This is persecution? May we all be so "persecuted."
You forgot the charity of ensuring the pastor can wear high-end brand clothing. PreachersNSneakers! $5k shirts! As Jesus would have wanted.
"I’m sure it’s just a coincidence that school board president Jeannie Glover also happens to be the pastor’s wife…" Of course it is...NOT.
It turns out she's also:
- the lunch lady
- the treasurer
- the postmaster
- the cook at the local diner
- the fire chief
- the janitor
Jeannie Glover's got HER glove in an awwwful lotta Black Canyon City pies....
Well isn’t that amazing. I’m guessing they pushed that contract through without anyone knowing and thought nobody would notice.
*Wait for kari plague to help the school board and church*
I hope it will be resolved without a trial if the school has already monetary problems. The children don't need more troubles to get an education.
With a school board like that, I am no sure the kids get any real education now.
Facts About Canon
Arizona School District Spending Report for Fiscal Year 2023 (most recent information):
Canon’s Administrative Costs were $3053 per pupil while our peer average (meaning other districts similar to ours) was $4259. This is a $1,206 dollar difference.
http://www.canon50.org/seperintendants-codear-black-canyon-parents-and-community-my-name-is-angela-jangula-and-i-would-like-to-offer-a-big-hello-to-black-canyon-city-as-superintendent-i-look-forward-to-being-involved-i/