I'm betting SBC and IFB. The Venn diagram for these two is practically a circle, and they both seem to assume they will be the top dogs once all this shakes out.
If that is, in fact, what has happened, whether out loud or 𝑠𝑜𝑡𝑡𝑜 𝑣𝑜𝑐𝑒, expect lawsuits. Very likely MULTIPLE lawsuits, if we're lucky. If Independent and Southern Baptists think they have the right to run the show to the exclusion of everyone else, they need to have their noses rubbed in NO, YOU DON'T.
SCOTUS still occasionally finds the odd nut ... much like a blind squirrel. The blunt issue of State / Church separation hasn't yet come before the court, that I know of.
For now, I can still take a wait-and-see attitude.
They are truly efficacious at what the administration cares about - shifting money from other peoples' pockets to theirs, and normalizing abject worship of them and their leadership.
Very true. I was in the Hague last month, and our tour coach passed the International Court of Justice complex....seemed to be a lot of armed police at a back entrance, escorting 3 men off a police van, their hands handcuffed behind them.....wish I'd had my phone out to take a pic as we drove by....and was then clever enough to alter it....and have you-know-who and his despicable cabinet entering that prisoners' reception area....and that it would then go viral!!!!!
There's an idea...maybe a future tourist, or several future tourists, will read this and grab some video that can be altered in many hilarious ways. Maybe...just maybe more than one would go viral and we could watch the Vile Orange Cretin's rotting head explode.
That guy in the center of the 9 pictures looks exactly like Jesus so maybe this is legit. Nevertheless, it’s unconstitutional and I will be suing the Trump regime for $10 billion. Though I am open to a settlement of slightly less money.
Actually, at least in theory, almost ALL religious organizations SHOULD be giving to the needy at such a level that they should already pay zero tax. ("Charitable deductions" used to be a thing.)
But so many churches are making million$, and with little attempt to help anyone. (Anyone not building private jets, that is.)
As pissed off as I am, I think the more Christianity wants to tie itself to Epstein's Bestie, the better for the long term.
I can sit here and rail at a Christianity that encouraged the rape and genocide of Native Americans; encouraged and fought for the enslavement, exploitation, rape, torture, and murder of Black people; pushed Jim Crow on the nation; led pogroms and lynchings; cheered and supported genocide in the Philippines; unjustly excluded Chinese immigrants; pushed Japanese immigrants into concentration camps; fought civil rights; and ignored the AIDS crisis, but that is in the past and not as real to folks as seeing what Christianity is really all about today.
Well, here it is, in all of it's wretchedness. Sound, fury, embracing fraud, lies, pedophilia, misogyny, white supremacy, a Jim Crow revival, a rotting husk, an abomination oozing hatred and poison everywhere it lurches.
You forgot to add this: teach that the white man (with short, blond or tanned hair) is greater and heroic than the black or brown colored man (with long, black or brown hair) and that man did not evolve from "apes" or "monkeys" (Read: dark-colored humans, including those with ape-like faces).
So they're going to be celebrating the signing of a document that was authored by a Deist, one who promoted church-state separation, yet. A Deist who even went so far as to create his own version of the gospels that quite literally cut out all the supernatural mumbo jumbo surrounding Jesus.
I'm curious to see just how many people show up. As we've seen the last couple years, these sorts of events aren't getting massive support; for example, the military parade was a total flop, not to mention the "alternative" half-time show for the Super Bowl.
Summer in DC, there are tons of tourists visiting the museums and monuments. No doubt many people will wander over to hear the music or speeches without necessarily having come to the mall to attend it.
I too will be curious. I live an hour outside DC. One thing about big events on the Mall is that there isn’t a lot of parking. You want a million people on the Mall? You need a lot of groups that have chartered buses. Hemant’s article is the very first I’ve heard of this (not that I move in CN circles). My younger son and I went to Obama’s first inauguration. For at least a week the media was full of info on the logistics of getting to the Mall.
I think you are correct that attendance will be unimpressive.
What this misguided event deserves is PUSHBACK, and I mean massive, considered, and calculated pushback. I am very pleased that American Atheists has organized America Beyond 250, and I hope it is well supported and attended. My question becomes: where will the news media go? Will Trump strong-arm coverage for his "revival" to the exclusion of the alternative, or can we expect some equity in how ABC, NBC, CBS, and CNN treat these two competing gatherings?
Like Rachel Maddow often says: "Watch this space."
What has happened to CBS positively breaks my heart. I grew up on Walter Cronkite, and 60 Minutes all but invented investigative reporting. Bari Weiss deserves to be strung up by her soft and fleshy parts!
“𝐷𝑖𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑠𝑒 𝑣𝑜𝑖𝑐𝑒𝑠 𝑓𝑟𝑜𝑚 𝑚𝑎𝑛𝑦 𝑓𝑎𝑖𝑡ℎ𝑠”
It will be both kinds: Southern Baptists and Pentecostals..
Probably have both kinds of music too, country and western.
Baskins-Robbins Christianity: Two flavors.
Right.
Baptists AND Southern Baptists.
I'm betting SBC and IFB. The Venn diagram for these two is practically a circle, and they both seem to assume they will be the top dogs once all this shakes out.
[𝑊]𝑒𝑙𝑐𝑜𝑚𝑒𝑑 𝑖𝑛𝑝𝑢𝑡 𝑓𝑟𝑜𝑚 𝑓𝑎𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑙𝑒𝑎𝑑𝑒𝑟𝑠 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑐𝑜𝑚𝑚𝑢𝑛𝑖𝑡𝑖𝑒𝑠 𝑎𝑐𝑟𝑜𝑠𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑐𝑜𝑢𝑛𝑡𝑟𝑦
The input was "You're being exclusionary, promoting conservative Christianity as the only acceptable religious viewpoint in the country. "
The response to the input was "Screw you, that's what we want."
If that is, in fact, what has happened, whether out loud or 𝑠𝑜𝑡𝑡𝑜 𝑣𝑜𝑐𝑒, expect lawsuits. Very likely MULTIPLE lawsuits, if we're lucky. If Independent and Southern Baptists think they have the right to run the show to the exclusion of everyone else, they need to have their noses rubbed in NO, YOU DON'T.
Uh, lawsuits ultimately get decided by SCOTUS--so do you have any hope left?
SCOTUS still occasionally finds the odd nut ... much like a blind squirrel. The blunt issue of State / Church separation hasn't yet come before the court, that I know of.
For now, I can still take a wait-and-see attitude.
If prayer were truly effecacious, then Trump and everyone who enabled him would either be in prison or on trial in the Hague.
They are truly efficacious at what the administration cares about - shifting money from other peoples' pockets to theirs, and normalizing abject worship of them and their leadership.
Very true. I was in the Hague last month, and our tour coach passed the International Court of Justice complex....seemed to be a lot of armed police at a back entrance, escorting 3 men off a police van, their hands handcuffed behind them.....wish I'd had my phone out to take a pic as we drove by....and was then clever enough to alter it....and have you-know-who and his despicable cabinet entering that prisoners' reception area....and that it would then go viral!!!!!
There's an idea...maybe a future tourist, or several future tourists, will read this and grab some video that can be altered in many hilarious ways. Maybe...just maybe more than one would go viral and we could watch the Vile Orange Cretin's rotting head explode.
Klan rally
See Boreal's graphic. Totally nails it!
That guy in the center of the 9 pictures looks exactly like Jesus so maybe this is legit. Nevertheless, it’s unconstitutional and I will be suing the Trump regime for $10 billion. Though I am open to a settlement of slightly less money.
Make it a class action so I can join the class.
Well, exactly like a MAGA Jesus.
The actual Jesus might have been a bit, well, darker.....
(And I think he might have updated his wardrobe at least once in 2,000 years. But, that's kinda typical for us OLD white guys.)
Tax the churches.
And mosques. And synagogues. And...
Actually, at least in theory, almost ALL religious organizations SHOULD be giving to the needy at such a level that they should already pay zero tax. ("Charitable deductions" used to be a thing.)
But so many churches are making million$, and with little attempt to help anyone. (Anyone not building private jets, that is.)
As pissed off as I am, I think the more Christianity wants to tie itself to Epstein's Bestie, the better for the long term.
I can sit here and rail at a Christianity that encouraged the rape and genocide of Native Americans; encouraged and fought for the enslavement, exploitation, rape, torture, and murder of Black people; pushed Jim Crow on the nation; led pogroms and lynchings; cheered and supported genocide in the Philippines; unjustly excluded Chinese immigrants; pushed Japanese immigrants into concentration camps; fought civil rights; and ignored the AIDS crisis, but that is in the past and not as real to folks as seeing what Christianity is really all about today.
Well, here it is, in all of it's wretchedness. Sound, fury, embracing fraud, lies, pedophilia, misogyny, white supremacy, a Jim Crow revival, a rotting husk, an abomination oozing hatred and poison everywhere it lurches.
You forgot to add this: teach that the white man (with short, blond or tanned hair) is greater and heroic than the black or brown colored man (with long, black or brown hair) and that man did not evolve from "apes" or "monkeys" (Read: dark-colored humans, including those with ape-like faces).
So they're going to be celebrating the signing of a document that was authored by a Deist, one who promoted church-state separation, yet. A Deist who even went so far as to create his own version of the gospels that quite literally cut out all the supernatural mumbo jumbo surrounding Jesus.
Oopsies.
But-but-but ... Jefferson was a CHRISTIAN. David Barton SAID he was a Christian, and if HE said it, it MUST be true! 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Show them Jefferson's copy of the Koran. Watch heads explode.
I'm curious to see just how many people show up. As we've seen the last couple years, these sorts of events aren't getting massive support; for example, the military parade was a total flop, not to mention the "alternative" half-time show for the Super Bowl.
Summer in DC, there are tons of tourists visiting the museums and monuments. No doubt many people will wander over to hear the music or speeches without necessarily having come to the mall to attend it.
It’s not tourist season yet. That really picks up when school is out.
I too will be curious. I live an hour outside DC. One thing about big events on the Mall is that there isn’t a lot of parking. You want a million people on the Mall? You need a lot of groups that have chartered buses. Hemant’s article is the very first I’ve heard of this (not that I move in CN circles). My younger son and I went to Obama’s first inauguration. For at least a week the media was full of info on the logistics of getting to the Mall.
I think you are correct that attendance will be unimpressive.
Actually, upon examination of the poster...
Getting JESUS to appear (and speak) is a pretty good "get". (That he's white guy...even BETTER!)
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ3QHxkiykeJxIbr8lovu5Dzgk2F6ceoQ1YHQ&s
Yup.
Not just yes, but HELL, YES.
What this misguided event deserves is PUSHBACK, and I mean massive, considered, and calculated pushback. I am very pleased that American Atheists has organized America Beyond 250, and I hope it is well supported and attended. My question becomes: where will the news media go? Will Trump strong-arm coverage for his "revival" to the exclusion of the alternative, or can we expect some equity in how ABC, NBC, CBS, and CNN treat these two competing gatherings?
Like Rachel Maddow often says: "Watch this space."
Oh I think we all know where the “news” media is going to go. Hell cbs is probably a sponsor.
What has happened to CBS positively breaks my heart. I grew up on Walter Cronkite, and 60 Minutes all but invented investigative reporting. Bari Weiss deserves to be strung up by her soft and fleshy parts!
“I never would have imagined our own government getting behind revival meetings!”
I'm not sure I could agree any more strongly, Sean.
(Actually, I'm waiting for the Taoism celebration's "turn". Gonna try to get my copy of Tao Te Ching autographed, and that's NOT easy!)
At least the reflecting pool will be torn up, a perfect example of their perfidy.
927 miles. I don't think I'll make it. Damn.
And I’m considerably further away. Shucks. ;)
Personally, I'd rather go to the FFRF annual meeting, this year in Milwaukee!
"...many faiths..."
These people need a "rededication" to what the word "many" means.