If you are that concerned about LGBTQ people, then you are probably gay. Straight people. secure in their sexuality don't waste their time thinking about what LGBTQ people are doing in their private lives.
I used to run AIDS clinics back in the day and the (unhappy) bi people were the only ones who could actually choose. This jerk is piling up pity points with the Theofascist Talibangelicals.
Open your bible to one of the gospels. Heck, open it to all 4 gospels. Point out book, chapter and verse where Jesus condemns gay people...or even mentions them.
On the other hand, Jesus DOES have things to say about religious hypocrites and people who call him Lord yet fail to do what he tells them.
No, the Catholic church admitted one of theirs Pope Gregory made that up. She was actually a rich sponsor.
"So how did Mary of Magdala become a prostitute some several hundred years after her death?
The short answer is that Mary Magdalene has been confused with several other women in the Bible, most significantly—and ultimately problematically—with the unnamed sinner in Chapter 7 of Luke. In that story, a woman bathes Jesus’ feet with her tears, anoints them with ointment from her alabaster jar, and dries them with her hair. When the Pharisees object, noting that she is a known sinner, Jesus admonishes them and forgives her “because she has shown great love” (Luke 7:47). Nowhere does it say that this woman was a prostitute, and nowhere is she identified as Mary of Magdala.
Now that scripture scholars have debunked the myth that she and the infamous repentant sinner who wiped Jesus’ feet with her tears are one and the same woman, word is trickling down that Mary Magdalene’s penitent prostitute label was a misnomer. Many cradle Catholics are shocked to learn that there is no biblical evidence that Mary of Magdala was a prostitute or public sinner. She is mentioned 12 times in the New Testament—making her the second most mentioned woman, after the Virgin Mary. Most references are found in the Crucifixion and empty tomb narratives, where she is portrayed as a loyal disciple at the foot of the cross...
Unlike other women in the Bible, Mary of Magdala is not identified in relation to another person; she is not anyone’s mother, wife, or sister. Instead, she is called Mary of Magdala, a title that implies some prominence in the city, a center of commercial fishing on the northwest bank of the Sea of Galilee. She left her home to follow Jesus, and it is believed she was among several well-off, independent women who financially supported Jesus’ ministry.
I tried to cut it down, and think they are really all just fictional characters in my opinion, but actual bible scholars (not of the Ken Hamm variety) have made the catholic church retract, and admit the lie. I figure it was done to not give her credit for being a “founding member” as it were.
I find it remarkable how many assertions these creeps attribute to the talibangelical Jeebus, which I am totally unable to find in any English translation of the bible.
I have read the bible cover-to-cover 4 times in my life - different translations because it has had so much lasting impact on English and the modern world. Now, I just go verify some quote by some Talibangelical preacher when I think he is cherry picking. And I always read a few verses behind and forward for context. But I remain a lifelong atheist.
A thirty-year-old, never married man who told his 12 friends to leave their wives and children for him, at that. Gonna let them him in, Alvin? Simon? Theodore?
Once again we see a bigoted preacher demonstrating the disconnect between religion and morality. The two are not mutually excluding, but they are very far from the same thing.
Well, you better do some more. Almost everything you own or do has gay cooties. The electricity that you use comes from a company that probably employees and also sells to gay people. The shirt you are wearing was manufactured and retailed by companies that employ gay people.
There's no escape. Your best bet is going off grid out in the mountains and becoming a hermit. There you only have to worry about the gay animals.
Except when that discrimination can let me martyrbate.
Pastor Alvin: I don't think you understand what the words you said actually mean. "Anybody" refers to the people who give food, not just the people who need food. Are you afraid that anything donated by people who support the LGBTQ community is contaminated with gay cooties and will turn people gay? That's not how it works. Are you just being a self-righteous hypocrite claiming persecution where there is none? That is the most likely thing. Who else would you refuse donations from in your quest to become the greatest martyr in the US? Atheists? Buddhists? Hindus, Jews, Muslims, and (gasp!) Satanists? Your location and the color of your skin suggests that you would even refuse a donation from a straight, conservative Christian man who happened to be black.
I think what he's afraid of is some gay group getting positive PR by being able to say they donated food to his food kitchen. Maybe he thinks that would make him look too tolerant?
It's bad for his local community. But since the industry seems to work by private donors -> Feeding America -> local food pantries, those private donors can continue to give to Feeding America who will continue to donate to other local food pantries, so TEH GEYS will get whatever positive PR they want anyway.
Anti-gay hatred caused the recent schism in the United Methodist Church. Same for the schism between the US Anglicans and the Episcopal Church. Theofascism and Christian Nationalism are balkanising Christianity.
Long story short, Alvin would rather cut off his nose to spite his face, than to accept help from (ohmygoodness!) the LGBTQ+ community! [dah, dah, DAAAAH!!!]. Have to say, it's refreshing to see someone's bigotry turn around to bite them on the ass!
Also of the spiritual variety. And the human variety. And I’m pretty sure, his own deep and dark secrets. Can’t be anywhere near those gay cooties. He might have an allergic reaction
Unfortunately it is not he who is bitten. I suppose his final act was to clear out his own pantry and divert his housekeeping budget to the charity so he is probably feeling the pinch right now. Perhaps we should start a fund for him.
My Grandma used to say that sarcasm is the lowest form of wit but I countered that wit is the highest form of humour so it wasn't that bad.
Another christian showing that his 'biblical' hate is stronger than the love his Jesus preached. His food bank shelves are empty because his heart is. Christopher Hitchens was right: religion destroys everything.
"For I was hungry, and you gave me nothing to eat"
Sound familiar, Al? Guess who said it. Oh, go on. Guess. And do you remember where someone like you was sent for failing to do what that person said? Got your heat-resistant jammies packed?
The very definition of “cut off your nose to spite your face.”
All this just proves that LGBTQ people are far more moral, despite not having so called objective morality, than Christians like Christian. His stance makes me want to align more with LGBTQ people than I already do, it will likely cause some folks on his side of the aisle to consider changing sides. Only the most callous of religious folks would think this is a brave stance. Of course, we are living in the worst timeline with the cruelest and most evil people in power.
Now I just woke up, first cuppa yadda yadda, and this man has inspired me to write a limerick. Because there’s nothing like a homo-obsessed Krischun named Christian to ping my under-caffeinated brain.
There once was a pastor named Alvin.
Who loved him a pastor named Calvin.
But there was no homo,
His food bank? went slo-mo.
The stoopid is strong in this malvin.*
I swear, even if I lived to be 76** the capacity for fear, hate, despite and stoopid in Homo-obsessed so-called Christians will never cease to amaze me. they tell us how much they want to be just like Jesus, whom they tell me who had no problem associating with sinners, prostitutes, tax collectors, and people named Alvin. But not so much like Jesus that they will actually do it.
The question which will always arise— always always always always— it’s how they have managed to elevate this particular so-called sin to the ultimate-extreme-top-of-the heap sin that it is in their minds. So much so that they would rather see people go hungry and their life mission become a failure rather than recognize that their obsessions are an aching hemorrhoid in the butthole of their lives.
So, actually, Calvin, it isn’t about homosexuality, but about what some heterosexuals*** think of it. It isn’t about homosexuality, but how much the subject obsesses, frightens, excites, arouses, horrifies, shames, tantalizes, titillates, fascinates, attracts, scares, bothers, entices, illuminates, intrigues, and ULTIMATELY CORRUPTS a whole bunch of people who think about it far more than most of the gay men I have known in my 75-363/365 years.
*old English or gaelic for councillor, captain, or leader. I know stuff.
** this Saturday. It isn’t even possible, but here we are.
*** and I have become increasingly convinced over decades, some people who are desperate to be heterosexual, but are never going to be
My mom died on a Sunday, her birthday was the very next Friday. And we were in the cemetery on my parents’ 53 anniversary. It was a rough week and a half.
I expect you to make it two days. Happy birthday again.
If you are that concerned about LGBTQ people, then you are probably gay. Straight people. secure in their sexuality don't waste their time thinking about what LGBTQ people are doing in their private lives.
I used to run AIDS clinics back in the day and the (unhappy) bi people were the only ones who could actually choose. This jerk is piling up pity points with the Theofascist Talibangelicals.
"MAGA hates the things they hate more than they love the things they love."
Even an Al Bundy cosplayer isn't immune.
To the man with the surname "Christian"...
Open your bible to one of the gospels. Heck, open it to all 4 gospels. Point out book, chapter and verse where Jesus condemns gay people...or even mentions them.
On the other hand, Jesus DOES have things to say about religious hypocrites and people who call him Lord yet fail to do what he tells them.
Did their make believe Jesus FN Christ ever have a girlfriend, or was it always those 12 men ?
Some say he was hot for Mary Magdalene!
The Christians say he loves everyone, so, pansexual?
Maybe ... but if that's the case, I still want to know if he's into T-FAL! 😁
Lodge. Cast iron cooks like nothing else.
T-FAL … ?
Hmmmm .… that’s American lingo for what ?
A US brand of pots and pans! 😁
Actually he had a prostitute he traveled with.
No, the Catholic church admitted one of theirs Pope Gregory made that up. She was actually a rich sponsor.
"So how did Mary of Magdala become a prostitute some several hundred years after her death?
The short answer is that Mary Magdalene has been confused with several other women in the Bible, most significantly—and ultimately problematically—with the unnamed sinner in Chapter 7 of Luke. In that story, a woman bathes Jesus’ feet with her tears, anoints them with ointment from her alabaster jar, and dries them with her hair. When the Pharisees object, noting that she is a known sinner, Jesus admonishes them and forgives her “because she has shown great love” (Luke 7:47). Nowhere does it say that this woman was a prostitute, and nowhere is she identified as Mary of Magdala.
Now that scripture scholars have debunked the myth that she and the infamous repentant sinner who wiped Jesus’ feet with her tears are one and the same woman, word is trickling down that Mary Magdalene’s penitent prostitute label was a misnomer. Many cradle Catholics are shocked to learn that there is no biblical evidence that Mary of Magdala was a prostitute or public sinner. She is mentioned 12 times in the New Testament—making her the second most mentioned woman, after the Virgin Mary. Most references are found in the Crucifixion and empty tomb narratives, where she is portrayed as a loyal disciple at the foot of the cross...
Unlike other women in the Bible, Mary of Magdala is not identified in relation to another person; she is not anyone’s mother, wife, or sister. Instead, she is called Mary of Magdala, a title that implies some prominence in the city, a center of commercial fishing on the northwest bank of the Sea of Galilee. She left her home to follow Jesus, and it is believed she was among several well-off, independent women who financially supported Jesus’ ministry.
https://uscatholic.org/articles/201603/who-framed-mary-magdalene/
Thanks for your lengthy essay EF.
If they all ever existed… she would not have been a "rich sponsor" … because humans are not rich … it’s chocolate cakes and the like that are rich.
Humans are WEALTHY if they get lucky. :-)
I tried to cut it down, and think they are really all just fictional characters in my opinion, but actual bible scholars (not of the Ken Hamm variety) have made the catholic church retract, and admit the lie. I figure it was done to not give her credit for being a “founding member” as it were.
Female pro I hope.
What was her name ?
Jesus swung both ways.
I find it remarkable how many assertions these creeps attribute to the talibangelical Jeebus, which I am totally unable to find in any English translation of the bible.
Do you read the Bible (BUYBULL) ?
I reckon that I get far better value from reading Websters Dictionary.
I have read the bible cover-to-cover 4 times in my life - different translations because it has had so much lasting impact on English and the modern world. Now, I just go verify some quote by some Talibangelical preacher when I think he is cherry picking. And I always read a few verses behind and forward for context. But I remain a lifelong atheist.
He can pray to jesus to refill his store, we’re already seeing how that will work out.
Wonder if he'd welcome a man traveling with 12 other men into his home?
A thirty-year-old, never married man who told his 12 friends to leave their wives and children for him, at that. Gonna let them him in, Alvin? Simon? Theodore?
Dammit, I have the Chipmunks theme in my head now. Did you have to?!
Too woke.
The harm done TO the American LGBTQ community is greater by a magnitude of millions than any harm done BY the American LGBTQ community.
And it only grows worse: more violent and more deadly, and toward those with ZERO intention of doing harm to anyone, especially to children.
Once again we see a bigoted preacher demonstrating the disconnect between religion and morality. The two are not mutually excluding, but they are very far from the same thing.
" I’d done some research. "
Well, you better do some more. Almost everything you own or do has gay cooties. The electricity that you use comes from a company that probably employees and also sells to gay people. The shirt you are wearing was manufactured and retailed by companies that employ gay people.
There's no escape. Your best bet is going off grid out in the mountains and becoming a hermit. There you only have to worry about the gay animals.
But there are lots of gay animals.
His problem, not mine. : )
>1,500 species, observed in nature.
𝐼 𝑤𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑑𝑖𝑠𝑐𝑟𝑖𝑚𝑖𝑛𝑎𝑡𝑒 𝑎𝑔𝑎𝑖𝑛𝑠𝑡 𝑎𝑛𝑦𝑏𝑜𝑑𝑦.
Except when that discrimination can let me martyrbate.
Pastor Alvin: I don't think you understand what the words you said actually mean. "Anybody" refers to the people who give food, not just the people who need food. Are you afraid that anything donated by people who support the LGBTQ community is contaminated with gay cooties and will turn people gay? That's not how it works. Are you just being a self-righteous hypocrite claiming persecution where there is none? That is the most likely thing. Who else would you refuse donations from in your quest to become the greatest martyr in the US? Atheists? Buddhists? Hindus, Jews, Muslims, and (gasp!) Satanists? Your location and the color of your skin suggests that you would even refuse a donation from a straight, conservative Christian man who happened to be black.
Bigots gonna bigot.
I think what he's afraid of is some gay group getting positive PR by being able to say they donated food to his food kitchen. Maybe he thinks that would make him look too tolerant?
It's bad for his local community. But since the industry seems to work by private donors -> Feeding America -> local food pantries, those private donors can continue to give to Feeding America who will continue to donate to other local food pantries, so TEH GEYS will get whatever positive PR they want anyway.
That's just a side bonus (in his mind) of feeding the persecution complex.
I am not sure how anyone could feel persecuted by refusing a donation. But I'm sure he'll manage it.
Anti-gay hatred caused the recent schism in the United Methodist Church. Same for the schism between the US Anglicans and the Episcopal Church. Theofascism and Christian Nationalism are balkanising Christianity.
I am reminded of the lyrics to a hymn I heard as a kid:
🎵 I would be giving and forget the gift. 🎶
Or, in this case, the giver.
Long story short, Alvin would rather cut off his nose to spite his face, than to accept help from (ohmygoodness!) the LGBTQ+ community! [dah, dah, DAAAAH!!!]. Have to say, it's refreshing to see someone's bigotry turn around to bite them on the ass!
How's that feel, Alvin?
Not even gay people. Anybody who even thinks that gay people are human. You might say he has a few— what shall we call them?— problems.
...Of the mental health variety.
Also of the spiritual variety. And the human variety. And I’m pretty sure, his own deep and dark secrets. Can’t be anywhere near those gay cooties. He might have an allergic reaction
Or a very natural (yet troubling to him!) physiological reaction.
Yes, doctor. We agree in our diagnosis of this troubling problem
FAFO
I’m glad to see the response too. Consequences work!
Unfortunately it is not he who is bitten. I suppose his final act was to clear out his own pantry and divert his housekeeping budget to the charity so he is probably feeling the pinch right now. Perhaps we should start a fund for him.
My Grandma used to say that sarcasm is the lowest form of wit but I countered that wit is the highest form of humour so it wasn't that bad.
Way to stick to principles, Alvin. You are a shining example of modern Christianity.
And they wonder why the youth are rejecting their beliefs.
Joe,
I suspect that what we would consider to be the definition of "wonder" to be vastly different from the definition white American Christians use.
Our definition probably has far less manipulation included.
Another christian showing that his 'biblical' hate is stronger than the love his Jesus preached. His food bank shelves are empty because his heart is. Christopher Hitchens was right: religion destroys everything.
"Christopher Hitchens was right" Also George Carlin was right!😆
https://www.learnreligions.com/top-george-carlin-quotes-on-religion-4072040
George Carlin was a national treasure!
Two great minds!
"For I was hungry, and you gave me nothing to eat"
Sound familiar, Al? Guess who said it. Oh, go on. Guess. And do you remember where someone like you was sent for failing to do what that person said? Got your heat-resistant jammies packed?
Those jammies are probably made from asbestos! 😝
Hopefully not from mixed fabrics.
The very definition of “cut off your nose to spite your face.”
All this just proves that LGBTQ people are far more moral, despite not having so called objective morality, than Christians like Christian. His stance makes me want to align more with LGBTQ people than I already do, it will likely cause some folks on his side of the aisle to consider changing sides. Only the most callous of religious folks would think this is a brave stance. Of course, we are living in the worst timeline with the cruelest and most evil people in power.
More moral, more generous, and more accepting ... mostly because we know how it feels to be rejected.
Again, Alvin, how does that feel?
"Verily I say unto you: gay people helping poor people? Not on my watch! Let them starve!"
-Conservative Christian Jesus
As always, I have to ask the following: How long before this overzealous homophobic believer gets caught up in something involving children?
The more realistic question is how long before we hear about it? I'd bet fat boy's orange tuchus he's already guilty.
It's amazing how often that happens.
🤔
Daily, it seems.
JoeMyGod reports on about 10 per week and people on there say his list is not exhaustive.
It's only that he hasn't been caught yet.
Now I just woke up, first cuppa yadda yadda, and this man has inspired me to write a limerick. Because there’s nothing like a homo-obsessed Krischun named Christian to ping my under-caffeinated brain.
There once was a pastor named Alvin.
Who loved him a pastor named Calvin.
But there was no homo,
His food bank? went slo-mo.
The stoopid is strong in this malvin.*
I swear, even if I lived to be 76** the capacity for fear, hate, despite and stoopid in Homo-obsessed so-called Christians will never cease to amaze me. they tell us how much they want to be just like Jesus, whom they tell me who had no problem associating with sinners, prostitutes, tax collectors, and people named Alvin. But not so much like Jesus that they will actually do it.
The question which will always arise— always always always always— it’s how they have managed to elevate this particular so-called sin to the ultimate-extreme-top-of-the heap sin that it is in their minds. So much so that they would rather see people go hungry and their life mission become a failure rather than recognize that their obsessions are an aching hemorrhoid in the butthole of their lives.
So, actually, Calvin, it isn’t about homosexuality, but about what some heterosexuals*** think of it. It isn’t about homosexuality, but how much the subject obsesses, frightens, excites, arouses, horrifies, shames, tantalizes, titillates, fascinates, attracts, scares, bothers, entices, illuminates, intrigues, and ULTIMATELY CORRUPTS a whole bunch of people who think about it far more than most of the gay men I have known in my 75-363/365 years.
*old English or gaelic for councillor, captain, or leader. I know stuff.
** this Saturday. It isn’t even possible, but here we are.
*** and I have become increasingly convinced over decades, some people who are desperate to be heterosexual, but are never going to be
This is a good post.
As you say, they elevate one trait as being super-important and forget everyone's humanity.
And not in the least—
Their own.
Yes. That was my thought as well.
Btw - wishing you all the best for your birthday. When it comes. :-)
Happy birthday. When it comes, and it will.
My mom died on a Sunday, her birthday was the very next Friday. And we were in the cemetery on my parents’ 53 anniversary. It was a rough week and a half.
I expect you to make it two days. Happy birthday again.
As long as it comes. It would be as annoying as hell if I didn’t make it to 76
My goal was 105. My grandfather died at 99 and threequarters and I wanted a bit of a margin over him ....
As long as I’m functional and can wipe my own ass, I’m good for as long as I’ve got.
Happy birthday eve eve.
Thanks. I was just talking to my oldest friend in the world who’s 19 days younger than I am. He gloats on that fact.
Back in school, I was the youngest person in my class. It used to irk me. Now,
it's the best thing ever.
Happy early birthday.