The disturbing skit at a Kentucky Baptist church raises serious questions about violence, religious indoctrination, and what adults are teaching children
Yes, indeed the South really IS another planet! They always did go in for all that cosplay and uniforms as an obsession. It certainly looks like Fascist indoctrination to me. They ignore that in the New Testament, Christians are supposed to be non-violent.
Okay ... THAT goes about 10 light-years beyond the pale. So the church acted out the importance of getting rid of sin. Ignoring the fact that sin is an offense against a being that has no demonstrable existence, how much of a reach would it be to extend that tableau to getting rid of the SINNER?
From where I sit, not much of a reach at all ... and I'd bet that's the next step in this farce.
Red Dawn (the first version at least) was mildly entertaining, if a bit simplistic. To my mind, this is another form of grooming and conditioning, particularly in normalizing VIOLENCE. They start with sin; they'll escalate to the sinner.
There was one scene that made me laugh out loud. And I was the only person in the theater who did so as I was in a very red part of Kansas. The scene where a Cuban officer lists 4-5 places where he has fought insurgents. “I’ve never seen such resistance. Not in Angola. Not in Nicaragua. Not in….” ( I forget the rest.) it was so heavy-handed that I found it comical.
I have long felt Christianity is made up of roughly equal measures of comfort myth and revenge fantasy. If promises of the glorious afterlife don’t keep people in line, then terrify them with hell. If what this church did doesn’t qualify as child abuse, then what does? I suspect they're far more interested in mindless conformity than anything remotely connected to morality.
And now, kids, we have a special guest: Secretary of Warfighting Pete Kegsbreath, to tell you about the evils of beards and vaccines. If you're good, he'll show you his Jesus Crusader Warfighting tattoos, and hand out the sacrificial whisky provided by his good buddy Ka$h, who's sleeping it off behind the outhouse.
Yeah, but those are Old Testament rules. We don't follow those. Well, except the ones that let us hate gays, subjugate women and tyrannize anyone who doesn't believe in our same God. Jesus told us it was OK to cherry pick.
If even one of these children internalizes the message of this skit and decide to kill LGBTQ+ people or bomb an abortion clininc, then the church will just go to plausible denialability mode.
"From 1977 to 2020 in America, anti-abortion activists committed at least 11 murders, 26 attempted murders, 956 threats of harm or death, 624 stalking incidents and four kidnappings, according to data collected by the National Abortion Federation. They have bombed 42 abortion clinics, set 194 on fire, attempted to bomb or burn an additional 104 and made 667 bomb threats." uk.news.yahoo.com/anti-abortion-movement-killed-people-09450524…?
He is really fixated on trying to get everyone to stop using "American" when they mean people from the USA. Does anyone from any other countries in North, South, or Central America refer to themselves as Americans? If not, then there really isn't a problem, is there?
Disturbing. I think we have to admit that we are currently in the midst of a civil war of sorts. I don't think it will be a shooting war between "red" and "blue" states and I think the violence will be sporadic and hopefully rare as we are too mixed up together and diverse a country.
But one needs to see that the January 6th insurrection was predominately a religious procession of neochristian supremacists. One would have hoped that criminal prosecution would have marked its peak as a political project. But a blanket pardon (and some upcoming cash rewards??) have uncorked their whole political project again.
Pastor Duh-Wayne claims misinformation about what this gross video represents. Um, no, sir, you are the misinformed one. We see it for what it is. Delusion and indoctrination.
It’s all right if it’s only a small part of vacation Bible school. I mean if it was a big part, it would actually be wrong.
These people are quite sick. And the children cheering it all along makes it even worse.
This may seem off-topic, but it’s not. One of the biggest problems I have with the Star Wars movies is exactly how morally muddy they are. It’s wrong for Luke to kill the emperor, because that would be murder motovated by anger. BAd bad bad. But it’s not wrong for Darth Vader to murder the emperor, because that’s simply redemption in action. And besides, he’s bad already, so it doesn’t make him morally bad, even though Luke murdered everybody on death star
And as with most fantasy/science fiction movies, mass murder is simply normalized as mass entertainment. It’s a good old Christian family values in action.
If you want to see the slaying of sin, have someone dressed up in a clear devil costume, and have good Christians around him praying for his redemption. Then throw a bucket of water on him and he can scream out what a world what a world.
But this kind of violence should not be considered a moral lesson. It’s quite the opposite
I actually have no idea I watched one of the sequels, maybe two of them, and decided that they were just recycling the same material over and over again. I do remember seeing the original Star Wars when it came out though, and it was an incredible visual experience.
It's not just Star Wars. All action movies have murders done by the good guys. All written action fiction has murders by the good guys. All real life, i.e., wars, have murders by the good guys. Murder is a part of human behavior that in a perfectly safe world would never occur.
I don’t disagree with you. The difference with Star Wars is that it represents itself and is touted as wholesome family entertainment with definite good guys and definite bad guys in the battle between good and bad, presenting the kind of morality that lacks any kind of nuance at all. But the morality is fake and there we say, manipulative? The good guys aren’t all that much better than the bad guys, they just have better better reasons for it.
Ain't no hate like Christian love. I saw this video circulating on Reddit but didn't know the context behind it.
Super weird imagery and way to normalize violence. Really fucking weird shit, while they are grooming kids.
Yes, indeed the South really IS another planet! They always did go in for all that cosplay and uniforms as an obsession. It certainly looks like Fascist indoctrination to me. They ignore that in the New Testament, Christians are supposed to be non-violent.
You know that every member of that church thinks that drag queens are the problem.
Okay ... THAT goes about 10 light-years beyond the pale. So the church acted out the importance of getting rid of sin. Ignoring the fact that sin is an offense against a being that has no demonstrable existence, how much of a reach would it be to extend that tableau to getting rid of the SINNER?
From where I sit, not much of a reach at all ... and I'd bet that's the next step in this farce.
Also don't a lot of Christians believe that we sin just by being alive. We inherited it? So how can you kill it?
See, when Jesus was crucified, he was supposed to wipe out all of our sins, but the warranty ran out, I guess.
Best.Comment.E-Var! 🤣🤣
Seems so much simpler just to require a viewing of RED DAWN.
Red Dawn (the first version at least) was mildly entertaining, if a bit simplistic. To my mind, this is another form of grooming and conditioning, particularly in normalizing VIOLENCE. They start with sin; they'll escalate to the sinner.
And it'll hit the fan any old time now.
There was one scene that made me laugh out loud. And I was the only person in the theater who did so as I was in a very red part of Kansas. The scene where a Cuban officer lists 4-5 places where he has fought insurgents. “I’ve never seen such resistance. Not in Angola. Not in Nicaragua. Not in….” ( I forget the rest.) it was so heavy-handed that I found it comical.
What can I say? They invaded the WRONG DAMNED COUNTRY!
An island smaller than floriduh invading the US? Completely unbelievable. Which is why I never watched it.
It’s been a while but I think the Soviets were involved too.
If it were Muslims doing this, the video would be playing multiple times a day on Fox News.
Don't give them that idea. They could just imagine the ratings spike now because of it
They wouldn’t show anything else.
I have long felt Christianity is made up of roughly equal measures of comfort myth and revenge fantasy. If promises of the glorious afterlife don’t keep people in line, then terrify them with hell. If what this church did doesn’t qualify as child abuse, then what does? I suspect they're far more interested in mindless conformity than anything remotely connected to morality.
And now, kids, we have a special guest: Secretary of Warfighting Pete Kegsbreath, to tell you about the evils of beards and vaccines. If you're good, he'll show you his Jesus Crusader Warfighting tattoos, and hand out the sacrificial whisky provided by his good buddy Ka$h, who's sleeping it off behind the outhouse.
Perhaps Pete needs to read his bible.
“Do not cut the hair on the sides of your head or clip off the edges of your beard.” – Leviticus 19:27
Not to mention the proscription against tattoos in the very next verse.
Yeah, but those are Old Testament rules. We don't follow those. Well, except the ones that let us hate gays, subjugate women and tyrannize anyone who doesn't believe in our same God. Jesus told us it was OK to cherry pick.
“… tyrannize anyone who doesn't believe in our same God.”
That would be the 10 Cs.
Just like his Orange Lord and Master, Whisky Pete doesn't read.
To be fair, in his usual condition he'd have to have one eye shut in order to even attempt it.
Of course that pastor isn't going to accept criticism or see anything wrong with something HE HIMSELF endorsed.
Christians are sick people. And they say WE'RE the sinners?
If even one of these children internalizes the message of this skit and decide to kill LGBTQ+ people or bomb an abortion clininc, then the church will just go to plausible denialability mode.
Just like they have done before with:
"From 1977 to 2020 in America, anti-abortion activists committed at least 11 murders, 26 attempted murders, 956 threats of harm or death, 624 stalking incidents and four kidnappings, according to data collected by the National Abortion Federation. They have bombed 42 abortion clinics, set 194 on fire, attempted to bomb or burn an additional 104 and made 667 bomb threats." uk.news.yahoo.com/anti-abortion-movement-killed-people-09450524…?
"From 1977 to 2020 in America" Looks like the UK has turned MAGA.
Sad and embarrassing. 😟🤪
Yeah, your obsession is.
It is a worry that I posted about human beings being stalked, harassed by crazy people, and murdered here in the states and that was all he saw.
He is really fixated on trying to get everyone to stop using "American" when they mean people from the USA. Does anyone from any other countries in North, South, or Central America refer to themselves as Americans? If not, then there really isn't a problem, is there?
"your obsession" Learning what's true with evidence and no dogma. 🤔
Thanks
God Bless America 🤪
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This is an instruction video for how to recruit and indoctrinate kid soldiers.
Disturbing. I think we have to admit that we are currently in the midst of a civil war of sorts. I don't think it will be a shooting war between "red" and "blue" states and I think the violence will be sporadic and hopefully rare as we are too mixed up together and diverse a country.
But one needs to see that the January 6th insurrection was predominately a religious procession of neochristian supremacists. One would have hoped that criminal prosecution would have marked its peak as a political project. But a blanket pardon (and some upcoming cash rewards??) have uncorked their whole political project again.
I am so sick of their shit.
Y'know, if there's one positive thing to be said for Christianity, it's that we can look at idiocy like this and quite properly exclaim "JESUS!".
Kind of reminds one of the movie, Idiocracy (2006) 😆🤪
https://www.ranker.com/list/ways-idiocracy-has-come-true/mike-rothschild
"I don’t remember this scene in the Gospels."
Book of Armaments, perhaps?
Something... something...beating plowshares into swords.
Ammosexuals 86:1
Right there with the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch 😉
Pastor Duh-Wayne claims misinformation about what this gross video represents. Um, no, sir, you are the misinformed one. We see it for what it is. Delusion and indoctrination.
It’s all right if it’s only a small part of vacation Bible school. I mean if it was a big part, it would actually be wrong.
These people are quite sick. And the children cheering it all along makes it even worse.
This may seem off-topic, but it’s not. One of the biggest problems I have with the Star Wars movies is exactly how morally muddy they are. It’s wrong for Luke to kill the emperor, because that would be murder motovated by anger. BAd bad bad. But it’s not wrong for Darth Vader to murder the emperor, because that’s simply redemption in action. And besides, he’s bad already, so it doesn’t make him morally bad, even though Luke murdered everybody on death star
And as with most fantasy/science fiction movies, mass murder is simply normalized as mass entertainment. It’s a good old Christian family values in action.
If you want to see the slaying of sin, have someone dressed up in a clear devil costume, and have good Christians around him praying for his redemption. Then throw a bucket of water on him and he can scream out what a world what a world.
But this kind of violence should not be considered a moral lesson. It’s quite the opposite
Spoiler alert! Is the emperor dead???
I don't know, but Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead.
What a coincidence- so is Henry Kissinger!
Nice vintage SNL bit.
I actually have no idea I watched one of the sequels, maybe two of them, and decided that they were just recycling the same material over and over again. I do remember seeing the original Star Wars when it came out though, and it was an incredible visual experience.
It's not just Star Wars. All action movies have murders done by the good guys. All written action fiction has murders by the good guys. All real life, i.e., wars, have murders by the good guys. Murder is a part of human behavior that in a perfectly safe world would never occur.
I don’t disagree with you. The difference with Star Wars is that it represents itself and is touted as wholesome family entertainment with definite good guys and definite bad guys in the battle between good and bad, presenting the kind of morality that lacks any kind of nuance at all. But the morality is fake and there we say, manipulative? The good guys aren’t all that much better than the bad guys, they just have better better reasons for it.
True, your wholesome family entertainment view is a valid criticism. Murderous impulses for a "good" cause is not moral.
They weren't performing... they were 𝘱𝘳𝘢𝘤𝘵𝘪𝘤𝘪𝘯𝘨.
Well put ... and ACCURATE!
Certainly not as entertaining as 'Springtime for Hitler.'
... annnnd Germany!"
Now I'll have this song in my head all day!
Ditto! Thanks for that, Boreal!
Oh, no. Are you aware that "ditto" is the mating call of obese conservatives?
Should have made the skit a musical.
Fu*r*king nuts!
You have a talent for understatement!
Haha, I wish I had time for the diatribe banging 'round in my head.
When you can - FIND THE TIME!