Saying dumb shit while in your early 20s is par for the course. Add the context and recognize the sarcasm and what he said is less dumb. Hell, I am almost 60 and I say dumb shit.
The number of things a young sailor in 1990 did or did not do that might cause offense... cannot be proven. Thank NonExisto for ensuring that cell phones did not exist.
And if they had, any sailor I ever served with is disqualified under the 'tarred by youth' standard.
By all accounts, Utah Mormons are the most porn-obsessed people in this country. That squeaky clean Mormon image they present to the world is just a paint job.
So, some of my Mormon friends growing up did say that it was about caffeine now, but not originally. There was some talk about (I’m pretty sure it was) Brigham-Young being a doctor and deciding that the temperature of hot beverages damaged your esophagus and you don’t want to do things that caused your body damage. They told me that even soup had to be tepid. They implied that caffeine wasn’t a known thing at that time, perhaps it was known by scholars, but not something that the average Mormon would have heard of, but the addictive and stimulating qualities of coffee and tea were known and bolstered the prohibition. But the actual heat of the drinks was the main reason for the rule.
I’m not saying the link was wrong, it seems like an expert source and I’m just remembering what my teenaged friends told me. Perhaps they got it wrong, or were given misinformation.
larry parker posted a link about hot bevs. I have no information at all. What I do remember is that prohibtion used to be about caffeine and sometime in the+last 10-15 years it was “clarified” that it wasn’t caffeine per se but hot bevs. When my older son, who now 28, was in Scouts, there were occasional district wide meetings hosted in an LDS church. We were always admonished not to bring caffeine into the building. Naturally, I wondered how my drinking coffee was going to imperil an LDS soul but, being a team player, I kept my mouth shut.
Magic underwear? No clue. I read that teenage Mormon girls are coached to feel for the magic underwear during make out sessions to see if the guy is legit.
One year for summer camp, we shared a site with another troop. One of their first year scouts (11ish) blew a lot of his money on several bottled Frappichinos, then drank 3 in 10 minutes. The kid was obnoxious to begin with, but got so much worse after. So maybe they were on to something.
"Utah Mormons" There are never any surprises when it comes to the bat shit crazy Mormon religion and its belivers. Many highly educated, and very wealthy. Just ask any Marriott Hotels & Resorts owners.
The golden tablets, magic underwear, book of Mormon, etc., all sadly entertaining.
First, let's be clear - all politicians are people who make good and bad choices. While it's probably not a good idea to elect someone who is flagrantly terrible, you'd be hard-pressed to find any political candidate who hasn't said or done something at least one person won't take offense to.
Anyone with character has probably said or done something which will offend others. We don't want someone in office whose main qualification is that they've never upset anyone.
As an atheist, I would prefer it if about 75% of the people in Congress were non-religious. The fact is, there is no God coming to save us. If we are to survive as a species, we will need more voices of reason in our government. The current direction by the idiot in the White House has led this country into a spiral that can only end in more inequality and strife.
True. But the odds of an atheist deciding that women have fewer civil rights than men and allowing those civil rights to be nullified by a body of jurists who are supposed to honor and define our Constitution in a manner that is consistent with the will, if not the intent, of the Founders is much less with a person connected to reason and common sense.
The proper outcome has a 99% greater chance of being defined by reason rather than religious dogma. I'll take the atheist's point of view rather than some bigot who is only interested in controlling women because their mother was a mean parent. Jehovah's Witnesses immediately come to mind, with the Amish a close second. The dads aren't any better. I know, because mine tried that brainwashing and spare the rod and spoil the child bullshit on me. That's why I'm a staunch atheist today and have been since I was a child.
To be fair, judging by the numbers of atheists who have been credibly accused of misogyny at the very least, our hands aren't particularly clean. Lawrence Krauss. Cleaner than Christians perhaps but.........
There's no guarantee that being non-religious is a guarantee of goodness. Look at people like Stalin and Mao. It's also more than reason. You have to look at the purpose for which reason is in service to. For example, if someone's desire is to gain as much as power over others as possible, then they can go about it in a rational way.
...yeah, I'm reasonably sure I had some remarkably shitty takes on a whole lot of things as a teenager-to-early-twentysomething. In point of fact, I 𝘬𝘯𝘰𝘸 I did, even if I can't remember what all of them were; that was smack in the middle of my edgy Libertarian phase, which makes it pretty much a given. I wasn't into the same 𝘬𝘪𝘯𝘥 of deliberate shock-value vulgarity, to be sure- otherwise, I rather doubt I'd still have any of the friends I 𝘴𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘧𝘶𝘤𝘬𝘪𝘯𝘨𝘩𝘰𝘸 made back then- but I 𝘥𝘰𝘯'𝘵 doubt that I'd be absolutely mortified to have those ancient shitty takes resurface now. I don't think I've ever said anything potentially career-or-relationship-ruining, but then, memory is a tricky thing, and I'm not going to discount the possibility that I've laid a big 'ol rotten egg in some dark, forgotten digital corner that will plaster itself all over my face, with great force and odor, if I ever attempt anything so monumentally foolish as a run for public office.
That said... don't be an online edgelord. Just... don't. Especially not if you think you might potentially have any kind of public aspirations later in life. The internet never forgets, and a sufficiently determined basement-dwelling nerd, who's been paid silly amounts money to dig up any dirt whatsoever on you, 𝘸𝘪𝘭𝘭 find what you 𝘯𝘰𝘸 would least want them to learn about you 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘯.
Though, if you 𝘢𝘳𝘦 going to be an online edgelord, make sure you're a Republican. This is most important. It 𝘥𝘦𝘧𝘪𝘯𝘪𝘵𝘦𝘭𝘺 seems to help with the future-proofing against consequences. Might even get you a job on Fox News!
"Christianize our military" Again, the United States military spends millions of tax dollars every year on Religions. High ranking clergy, religious base facilities and literature. What could possibly when someone like pistol "Pete Hegseth" is in charge?
Time to quit financially supporting Religions in the US military. Worship one's invisiable invisible beings and superstitions on one's own. Most Religions ( Mormons and Catholics) have plenty of cash to support the troops, they don't need the military to chip in.
There is absolutely no separation in the US military, and ironically part of the US government. Hypocritical and sad at the least.
^not to mention, a lot of evangelicals don't consider Mormons to be "real" Christians, any more than they do Catholics. We're watching three competing blocs who had briefly united in praise of 🍊, suddenly realize that there are "wrong" kinds of Christians, and the other two, that'll be them. and whoever wins will be the only "right" one.
As a Republican lawmaker I’m sponsoring the Skullfuck Pledge asking all morally upright representatives to avow that they have never skullfucked their Mormon underage sister
In college, I thought I was an edgelord for a time, and made (I now realize) horrible jokes about rape. Good thing I've been over that phase for almost 40 years, and also that it was way before the Internet.
Context aside, is there not one politician in the world who can keep their fucking mouth shut? I remember the advice all of our ex-Conservative Prime Minister is used to give to newly elected MPs. It was "Learn to breathe through your nose." Conservative or not, I can't fault that.
On the other hand is ain't nearly as bad as a Fox News bimbo who said someone should be curb stomped.
I think it's a safe bet to say that the Utah Republican party is going to do everything in its power not to allow Blouin's past to be forgotten. This is likely an issue that Blouin will be fighting against for the duration of his campaign.
In an ideal world, political campaigns would be more even handed. In case anyone hasn't noticed, the world we live in is light years away from ideal.
I posted this before I knew there was a new post. It's another small victory. Maybe a medium to large one I don't know enough about American politics/legal system
Well, it’s 6am and I’m feeling… not quite depressed, but certainly not being helped.
I bought Windrose, because I tried the demo a couple months back and had a lot of fun with it, despite my ancient (6 years old) computer being on the very edge of the bare minimum system requirements.
I got home from work yesterday, bought the full Supporter Edition. Installed it and started it up. Character creation was simple, and the prologue was very short that doubles as a movement and combat tutorial.
Then I loaded into the main world. And BSOD’d about 15 seconds in. Okay then. Rebooted, started up the game again. Tweaked graphics settings to just above minimum. Loaded back in again.
And BSOD’d about 15 seconds in. Again.
Spent the rest of the night doing preventative repairs and maintenance, and looking over what went wrong. Narrowed it down to what might possibly be my graphics card (1660 Ti).
So much for that. Went to bed.
Woke up and checked my feeds as per usual. Found a whole lot of posts and replies by people who are DESPERATELY trying to prove Tatsuya right.
*sighs* Can I go somewhere else? This planet is fundamentally broken, and justice isn’t likely to happen within my lifetime at the rate it’s going.
Saying dumb shit while in your early 20s is par for the course. Add the context and recognize the sarcasm and what he said is less dumb. Hell, I am almost 60 and I say dumb shit.
The number of things a young sailor in 1990 did or did not do that might cause offense... cannot be proven. Thank NonExisto for ensuring that cell phones did not exist.
And if they had, any sailor I ever served with is disqualified under the 'tarred by youth' standard.
By all accounts, Utah Mormons are the most porn-obsessed people in this country. That squeaky clean Mormon image they present to the world is just a paint job.
Alternatively, they don’t regard porn as evil as, say, hot beverages.
Mmmmm, coffee porn.
Something something magic underwear yadda yadda something.....
I bet you're fun at breakfast.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hvDN3ejl3U0
OT -- this is just out of curiosity.
What is the reasoning behind the belief that hot beverages are evil? (Just makes no sense to me.)
And what's the deal with the "magic underwear?" I've heard about that somewhere before, but what is it and why do they have to wear it?
You are obviously not one of God's chosen. /S
And damn proud of it!
https://summerstirs.com/why-can-t-mormon-drink-hot-drinks/
So, some of my Mormon friends growing up did say that it was about caffeine now, but not originally. There was some talk about (I’m pretty sure it was) Brigham-Young being a doctor and deciding that the temperature of hot beverages damaged your esophagus and you don’t want to do things that caused your body damage. They told me that even soup had to be tepid. They implied that caffeine wasn’t a known thing at that time, perhaps it was known by scholars, but not something that the average Mormon would have heard of, but the addictive and stimulating qualities of coffee and tea were known and bolstered the prohibition. But the actual heat of the drinks was the main reason for the rule.
I’m not saying the link was wrong, it seems like an expert source and I’m just remembering what my teenaged friends told me. Perhaps they got it wrong, or were given misinformation.
Idk. I went with the first thing that popped up.
"They told me that even soup had to be tepid."
That might even be worse than no caffeine for me.
larry parker posted a link about hot bevs. I have no information at all. What I do remember is that prohibtion used to be about caffeine and sometime in the+last 10-15 years it was “clarified” that it wasn’t caffeine per se but hot bevs. When my older son, who now 28, was in Scouts, there were occasional district wide meetings hosted in an LDS church. We were always admonished not to bring caffeine into the building. Naturally, I wondered how my drinking coffee was going to imperil an LDS soul but, being a team player, I kept my mouth shut.
Magic underwear? No clue. I read that teenage Mormon girls are coached to feel for the magic underwear during make out sessions to see if the guy is legit.
One year for summer camp, we shared a site with another troop. One of their first year scouts (11ish) blew a lot of his money on several bottled Frappichinos, then drank 3 in 10 minutes. The kid was obnoxious to begin with, but got so much worse after. So maybe they were on to something.
And that paint is rapidly peeling away.
"Utah Mormons" There are never any surprises when it comes to the bat shit crazy Mormon religion and its belivers. Many highly educated, and very wealthy. Just ask any Marriott Hotels & Resorts owners.
The golden tablets, magic underwear, book of Mormon, etc., all sadly entertaining.
Kolob here we come!
And meanwhile, Republicans get to be considered "innocent, headstrong youths" until they're 50.
I'm not certain that the cutoff age is 50 by a long stretch. Certainly not as regards a certain chief executive.
Was about to start responding a long the same lines, but scrolled down and saw you had beat me to it.
The Vile Orange Cretin was never an innocent headstrong youth because he has never made it past the psychotic toddler stage.
I’m just now getting to comment on this article and Troublesh00ter beat me to what I wanted to say.
First, let's be clear - all politicians are people who make good and bad choices. While it's probably not a good idea to elect someone who is flagrantly terrible, you'd be hard-pressed to find any political candidate who hasn't said or done something at least one person won't take offense to.
I mean at least he wasn't openly praising Hitler or denying the Holocaust like some on the other side.
Anyone with character has probably said or done something which will offend others. We don't want someone in office whose main qualification is that they've never upset anyone.
As an atheist, I would prefer it if about 75% of the people in Congress were non-religious. The fact is, there is no God coming to save us. If we are to survive as a species, we will need more voices of reason in our government. The current direction by the idiot in the White House has led this country into a spiral that can only end in more inequality and strife.
Being non-religious doesn't necessarily mean that one is a voice of reason unfortunately.
True. But the odds of an atheist deciding that women have fewer civil rights than men and allowing those civil rights to be nullified by a body of jurists who are supposed to honor and define our Constitution in a manner that is consistent with the will, if not the intent, of the Founders is much less with a person connected to reason and common sense.
The proper outcome has a 99% greater chance of being defined by reason rather than religious dogma. I'll take the atheist's point of view rather than some bigot who is only interested in controlling women because their mother was a mean parent. Jehovah's Witnesses immediately come to mind, with the Amish a close second. The dads aren't any better. I know, because mine tried that brainwashing and spare the rod and spoil the child bullshit on me. That's why I'm a staunch atheist today and have been since I was a child.
To be fair, judging by the numbers of atheists who have been credibly accused of misogyny at the very least, our hands aren't particularly clean. Lawrence Krauss. Cleaner than Christians perhaps but.........
There's no guarantee that being non-religious is a guarantee of goodness. Look at people like Stalin and Mao. It's also more than reason. You have to look at the purpose for which reason is in service to. For example, if someone's desire is to gain as much as power over others as possible, then they can go about it in a rational way.
...yeah, I'm reasonably sure I had some remarkably shitty takes on a whole lot of things as a teenager-to-early-twentysomething. In point of fact, I 𝘬𝘯𝘰𝘸 I did, even if I can't remember what all of them were; that was smack in the middle of my edgy Libertarian phase, which makes it pretty much a given. I wasn't into the same 𝘬𝘪𝘯𝘥 of deliberate shock-value vulgarity, to be sure- otherwise, I rather doubt I'd still have any of the friends I 𝘴𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘧𝘶𝘤𝘬𝘪𝘯𝘨𝘩𝘰𝘸 made back then- but I 𝘥𝘰𝘯'𝘵 doubt that I'd be absolutely mortified to have those ancient shitty takes resurface now. I don't think I've ever said anything potentially career-or-relationship-ruining, but then, memory is a tricky thing, and I'm not going to discount the possibility that I've laid a big 'ol rotten egg in some dark, forgotten digital corner that will plaster itself all over my face, with great force and odor, if I ever attempt anything so monumentally foolish as a run for public office.
That said... don't be an online edgelord. Just... don't. Especially not if you think you might potentially have any kind of public aspirations later in life. The internet never forgets, and a sufficiently determined basement-dwelling nerd, who's been paid silly amounts money to dig up any dirt whatsoever on you, 𝘸𝘪𝘭𝘭 find what you 𝘯𝘰𝘸 would least want them to learn about you 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘯.
Though, if you 𝘢𝘳𝘦 going to be an online edgelord, make sure you're a Republican. This is most important. It 𝘥𝘦𝘧𝘪𝘯𝘪𝘵𝘦𝘭𝘺 seems to help with the future-proofing against consequences. Might even get you a job on Fox News!
"teenager-to-early-twentysomething"
No internet when I was that age, luckily.
Oh, if I had Internet at that age I'd have had one arm look super muscular ala Quagmire.
"Christianize our military" Again, the United States military spends millions of tax dollars every year on Religions. High ranking clergy, religious base facilities and literature. What could possibly when someone like pistol "Pete Hegseth" is in charge?
Time to quit financially supporting Religions in the US military. Worship one's invisiable invisible beings and superstitions on one's own. Most Religions ( Mormons and Catholics) have plenty of cash to support the troops, they don't need the military to chip in.
There is absolutely no separation in the US military, and ironically part of the US government. Hypocritical and sad at the least.
Onward Christian Soldiers?
^not to mention, a lot of evangelicals don't consider Mormons to be "real" Christians, any more than they do Catholics. We're watching three competing blocs who had briefly united in praise of 🍊, suddenly realize that there are "wrong" kinds of Christians, and the other two, that'll be them. and whoever wins will be the only "right" one.
As a Republican lawmaker I’m sponsoring the Skullfuck Pledge asking all morally upright representatives to avow that they have never skullfucked their Mormon underage sister
Or that they have stopped skullfucking their Mormon underage sister.
I’m offering this pledge as a fresh start for all of the former skullfuckers who have found the blessed amnesty of Jesus
In college, I thought I was an edgelord for a time, and made (I now realize) horrible jokes about rape. Good thing I've been over that phase for almost 40 years, and also that it was way before the Internet.
Uh oh. He used the word "evolved."
He's doomed.
Context aside, is there not one politician in the world who can keep their fucking mouth shut? I remember the advice all of our ex-Conservative Prime Minister is used to give to newly elected MPs. It was "Learn to breathe through your nose." Conservative or not, I can't fault that.
On the other hand is ain't nearly as bad as a Fox News bimbo who said someone should be curb stomped.
I think it's a safe bet to say that the Utah Republican party is going to do everything in its power not to allow Blouin's past to be forgotten. This is likely an issue that Blouin will be fighting against for the duration of his campaign.
In an ideal world, political campaigns would be more even handed. In case anyone hasn't noticed, the world we live in is light years away from ideal.
https://www.alternet.org/john-eastman-attoreny/
I posted this before I knew there was a new post. It's another small victory. Maybe a medium to large one I don't know enough about American politics/legal system
Small. If they want to make it large they need to go after the guy Eastman was working for.
Oh my, we have a person in the white house that says far worse daily and has done far worse. Ugh
Well, it’s 6am and I’m feeling… not quite depressed, but certainly not being helped.
I bought Windrose, because I tried the demo a couple months back and had a lot of fun with it, despite my ancient (6 years old) computer being on the very edge of the bare minimum system requirements.
I got home from work yesterday, bought the full Supporter Edition. Installed it and started it up. Character creation was simple, and the prologue was very short that doubles as a movement and combat tutorial.
Then I loaded into the main world. And BSOD’d about 15 seconds in. Okay then. Rebooted, started up the game again. Tweaked graphics settings to just above minimum. Loaded back in again.
And BSOD’d about 15 seconds in. Again.
Spent the rest of the night doing preventative repairs and maintenance, and looking over what went wrong. Narrowed it down to what might possibly be my graphics card (1660 Ti).
So much for that. Went to bed.
Woke up and checked my feeds as per usual. Found a whole lot of posts and replies by people who are DESPERATELY trying to prove Tatsuya right.
*sighs* Can I go somewhere else? This planet is fundamentally broken, and justice isn’t likely to happen within my lifetime at the rate it’s going.
Tatsuya Imai? ; )
Tatsuya Ishida. Sinfest webcomic.
Current arc is all about how Adolf H was the good guy all along and that the J’s were history’s greatest evil.
"Hell, there will be candidates in the future whose nudes are online. "
Hell, there are First Ladies whose nudes are online.
I once saw a photo of Eleanor Roosevelt's ankle.
Scandalous!