Well, I came across Christians bitching about atheists quoting Scripture. "How dare they, they don't believe in the Bible!" Except they don't say atheists are wrong. Because they aren't.
FWIW, I think they know their scripture just as well as we do. They simply aren’t as willing as we are to accept the plain meaning. They go off into elaborate justifications to deny the plain meaning.
Within her rights to send an Easter message, yes. Within her rights to expect all employees to be Christian by the details of that statement, no. Not just no, but fuck no. They really hate what the Establishment Clause actually means, don't they.
And here is evidence of that. Not just her, but her entire team is doubling down. Exactly what are they praying for? That the plaintiffs drop the suit and capitulate to the mandatory conservative Christianity? Certainly not that the plaintiffs remain healthy as the litigation proceeds and thoroughly punishes Rollins for her blatant constitutional violations.
Not quite a missionary. She doesn't see herself as bringing the gospel to heathens who haven't heard it before. More like a viceroy with the power to impose her beliefs as the only ones allowed.
"... the foundation of OUR faith?!?" Lady, you would do well to watch your language, particularly in your presumption that EVERYONE you're talking to believes as you do. THEY DON'T ... and one or more of them may take offense!
You know what used to happen to missionaries….I’m thinking death, dismemberment, and cannibalism, although I also suspect she might be too bitter and sour to be tasty!
There is no definitive evidence Jesus ever even existed, and although there are things attributed to him no one has any idea what he may have actually said. The foundations of Christianity are built of very thin stuff, and yet true believers never stop trying to share their delusions with others. It is NEVER the job of our secular government to backstop anyone’s religion.
This reminds me a great deal of the city calendar I received several years ago which contained a very specific religious message promoting Christmas from a Christian viewpoint, without mentioning any other religious holiday in all its 12 month span. I consulted with my friends at the Northern Ohio Freethought Society and they agreed with me that it was a violation of The Establishment Clause of the First Amendment. I wrote the mayor about it, indicating the improper nature of that calendars content and suggesting corrective action. To my great surprise, he agreed, and subsequent calendars issued by the city have been far more secular in their nature.
Somehow I get the feeling that Secretary Rollins will be nowhere near as responsive as the above mentioned mayor was. Might be time to give the FFRF a call.
Lady, Easter is a pagan celebration stolen by xtians. It has ZIP to do with Jeebus. Easter is the Spring equinox, a time of renewal, fertitlity and sex. Lots of sex. The reason for the season? Axial tilt, not Jesus.
The Aztecs used cocoa beans as money. They also used them to make a drink called xocoatl. This is from the word in the Aztec language, Nahuatl, meaning 'bitter water'.
Which brings us to Numbers 5:18-25 where "bitter water" is used as an abortifacient. So, did the ancient Hebrews discover Mesoamerica? Obviously not: even Erich von Daniken wouldn't go that far.
Well, "Up to a point, Lord Copper" (Evelyn Waugh: Scoop): Easter is tied to the Jewish Passover celebration, which is tied to a lunar calendar, which is why it's on a different date each year. Passover celebrates the deistic murder of tens, or more, thousands of children in Egypt because omnipotent JHWH couldn't think of any other way to change the, unnamed and therefore untraceable, pharaoh's mind about freeing the Hebrew population of Egypt.
Needless to say, there is no other evidence of this event.
Better yet, according to Exodus YHVH "hardened Pharoah's heart" so that Pharaoh wouldn't allow the Jews to leave until YHVH hurt the Egyptians more. One more item showing how the so-called merciful god is a sadistic dick.
I remember being quite confused by that very thing when listening to this story in Sunday School. Even then I already knew no questions would be allowed.
I certainly understand that people are allowed to have their personal beliefs, no matter what it is. There is nothing wrong with that. Yet, so many Christian people feel it is their duty to force their belief on everyone. We all can imagine the outcry we would hear if a Muslim, a Hindu, a Taoist etc. would do the same thing Brooke Rollins is doing. Each of us can have our beliefs and live by them, but none of us can force those beliefs on others. She is totally wrong, especially being in a government position.
We SHOULDN'T force our beliefs on others but some people, using "the big stick of government", actually CAN force those beliefs on others. We supposedly had a Constitution that would prevent such an abuse but apparently we were mistaken.
Yes, sadly I have to agree. 'None of us can' is the wrong choice of words. Government certainly can, people in general will certainly try but they can't unless we let them.
Honestly, that Easter abomination of a message combined with the "they'll be in our prayers" towards the plaintiffs with no acknowledgement of other religions' holidays at all- it doesn't read as preaching to me. There's real antagonism here, not just towards non-Christians but for anyone in the government who still respects THE LAW. These messages were clearly written by someone who knows the Establishment Clause and wants to be as performative about violating it as humanly possible.
It honestly wouldn't surprise me if this was also part of a Republican-wide deliberate legal strategy TO undermine the Establishment Clause with the eventual hope of having SCOTUS shitcan it.
I don't know if it even needs to be a 'deliberate strategy'. We've just got a bunch of like-minded people appointed to office who all push their religious views on civil servant employees and dare the courts to say no. They don't need to coordinate it because they all have the same religious and political outlook.
I don't really see Trump's executive as a group of like minded people expressing their religious views. I see them as political cult members using cult jargon as provacatively as possible both to normalize it and isolate/alienate/subdue non-cult members.
Sure they are. Hesgeth sends a weekly invite to christian church services to all DoD employees in the Pentagon. But nobody thinks he and Sec. Rollins get together in some back room to cackle madly about how they can push Christianity on their employees - they don't need to, they just each naturally do it.
They don't need to cackle in back rooms, you're right, because neither is an independent thinker. They are both from the same ecosystem and already understand what they need to do.
I mean, it is the underlying thread throughout Project 2025 and Project Ethyl and whatever else they’re using to govern. It’s intentional or planned as much as it is not scripted and individualized.
Sadly, I doubt that Secretary Rollins sees (or is willing to admit she sees!) anything wrong with Trump's actions as president. The fact is, she lives under the same Damoclean sword that every other Trump appointee does!
She sees Trump as God ordained to make America a mandatory Christian nation, therefore anything he does is God's will. Thus, she will shut down what's left of her conscience and cherry-pick her Bible to justify his actions.
To which Dan Barker (in God: The Most Unpleasant Character in All Fiction) added pyromaniacal, angry, merciless, curse-hurling, vaccicidal, aborticidal, cannibalistic, slavemonger, homicidal, evil and terrorist.
Yup! I have the book, and I positively LOVE that it shows off both Yahweh and Jesus for what they are, using nothing other than THEIR OWN HOLY BOOK! 🤣🤣🤣
I still like the “he was a test” cartoon (and variants of). Any self-respecting god would have hit them with thunderbolts by now. Dammit, where’s a Zeus-type when you need one?
Nosey, self-righteous Christians don't realize having religion shoved in someone's face can be triggering. The suffering it has caused some people is profound.
Not just triggering, but potentially resulting in legal action, stemming from her presumption on those who don't care for being proselytized via email!
“Either she’s unaware of all that or she doesn’t care.”
She is totally aware and cares very deeply. But the way she cares is the opposite of what is good and right and how we view it. She’s aware she’s infringing on other people’s rights, because she doesn’t believe they should have the rights. She cares because she’s convinced that it is her duty to convert anyone not already on board with her narrow views and strict interpretation of the Bible.
Here’s the thing, we need to be aware and care deeply too. Just like the plaintiffs of this case. Good for them for stepping up. It might not go the way we want it to in the corrupted courts system, but the more we fight the more difficult it will be for them to get their way. They might eventually lose, they will eventually lose. But not if we don’t fight back.
She may think she is in an unassailable position. The Freedom From Religion Foundation or Americans United or American Atheists may instruct her OTHERWISE. It may be that, if this lesson and others like it make the WCN rounds sufficiently, they MAY learn that pulling stunts like Rollins did does NOT pay off in the long haul. Or maybe they will not.
But when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites for they love to pray in public to be seen by men.
Funny how we know their gospels better than they do…
Well, I came across Christians bitching about atheists quoting Scripture. "How dare they, they don't believe in the Bible!" Except they don't say atheists are wrong. Because they aren't.
“Context”. The lying aholes.
I just came across Christians arguing that their god never committed (the flood) nor ordered (Amalekites) genocide.
The argument was literally that their god could do no wrong and as genocide was wrong, their god could not have done it.
FWIW, I think they know their scripture just as well as we do. They simply aren’t as willing as we are to accept the plain meaning. They go off into elaborate justifications to deny the plain meaning.
Platinum medalists in mental gymnastics!
Exactly. Well stated.
I'm sick of Christian privilege.
I’m sick of christians as well. Those NALT apologists do nothing to pushback against the tide of christofascism.
NALT? I could probably guess if I wasn’t on my fourth drink.
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So say we all.
“𝑇𝑜𝑑𝑎𝑦 𝑤𝑒 𝑐𝑒𝑙𝑒𝑏𝑟𝑎𝑡𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑔𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑡𝑒𝑠𝑡 𝑠𝑡𝑜𝑟𝑦 𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑡𝑜𝑙𝑑, 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑜𝑢𝑛𝑑𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑜𝑓 𝑜𝑢𝑟 𝑓𝑎𝑖𝑡ℎ, 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑎𝑏𝑖𝑑𝑖𝑛𝑔 ℎ𝑜𝑝𝑒 𝑜𝑓 𝑎𝑙𝑙 𝑚𝑎𝑛𝑘𝑖𝑛𝑑… "
Stating overtly that the agency is officially Christian
“𝑇ℎ𝑒 𝑆𝑒𝑐𝑟𝑒𝑡𝑎𝑟𝑦 𝑖𝑠 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑛 ℎ𝑒𝑟 𝑟𝑖𝑔ℎ𝑡𝑠 𝑡𝑜 𝑠𝑒𝑛𝑑 𝑎 𝑚𝑒𝑠𝑠𝑎𝑔𝑒 𝑡𝑜 𝑒𝑚𝑝𝑙𝑜𝑦𝑒𝑒𝑠 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑢𝑏𝑙𝑖𝑐 𝑜𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝐸𝑎𝑠𝑡𝑒𝑟 ℎ𝑜𝑙𝑖𝑑𝑎𝑦. 𝐽𝑢𝑠𝑡 𝑙𝑖𝑘𝑒 𝑆𝑒𝑐𝑟𝑒𝑡𝑎𝑟𝑖𝑒𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝐴𝑔𝑟𝑖𝑐𝑢𝑙𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑒 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑃𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑖𝑑𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑠 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑖𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑎𝑠𝑡.”
Within her rights to send an Easter message, yes. Within her rights to expect all employees to be Christian by the details of that statement, no. Not just no, but fuck no. They really hate what the Establishment Clause actually means, don't they.
“𝑊ℎ𝑖𝑙𝑒 𝑤𝑒 𝑑𝑜 𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑐𝑜𝑚𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝑜𝑛 𝑝𝑒𝑛𝑑𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑙𝑖𝑡𝑖𝑔𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛, 𝑤𝑒 𝑤𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑘𝑒𝑒𝑝 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑙𝑎𝑖𝑛𝑡𝑖𝑓𝑓𝑠 𝑖𝑛 𝑜𝑢𝑟 𝑝𝑟𝑎𝑦𝑒𝑟𝑠 𝑑𝑢𝑟𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑠 𝑝𝑟𝑜𝑐𝑒𝑠𝑠."
And here is evidence of that. Not just her, but her entire team is doubling down. Exactly what are they praying for? That the plaintiffs drop the suit and capitulate to the mandatory conservative Christianity? Certainly not that the plaintiffs remain healthy as the litigation proceeds and thoroughly punishes Rollins for her blatant constitutional violations.
𝑅𝑜𝑙𝑙𝑖𝑛𝑠 𝑠𝑒𝑒𝑠 ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑠𝑒𝑙𝑓 𝑎𝑠 𝑎 𝑚𝑖𝑠𝑠𝑖𝑜𝑛𝑎𝑟𝑦 𝑖𝑛 𝑎 𝑝𝑜𝑠𝑖𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑡𝑜 𝑓𝑜𝑟𝑐𝑒 ℎ𝑒𝑟 𝑣𝑖𝑒𝑤𝑠 𝑜𝑛 𝑡𝑒𝑛𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑜𝑢𝑠𝑎𝑛𝑑𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝑝𝑒𝑜𝑝𝑙𝑒 𝑎𝑡 𝑜𝑛𝑐𝑒.
Not quite a missionary. She doesn't see herself as bringing the gospel to heathens who haven't heard it before. More like a viceroy with the power to impose her beliefs as the only ones allowed.
"... the foundation of OUR faith?!?" Lady, you would do well to watch your language, particularly in your presumption that EVERYONE you're talking to believes as you do. THEY DON'T ... and one or more of them may take offense!
𝑅𝑜𝑙𝑙𝑖𝑛𝑠 𝑠𝑒𝑒𝑠 ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑠𝑒𝑙𝑓 𝑎𝑠 𝑎 𝑚𝑖𝑠𝑠𝑖𝑜𝑛𝑎𝑟𝑦 𝑖𝑛 𝑎 𝑝𝑜𝑠𝑖𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑡𝑜 𝑓𝑜𝑟𝑐𝑒 ℎ𝑒𝑟 𝑣𝑖𝑒𝑤𝑠 𝑜𝑛 𝑡𝑒𝑛𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑜𝑢𝑠𝑎𝑛𝑑𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝑝𝑒𝑜𝑝𝑙𝑒 𝑎𝑡 𝑜𝑛𝑐𝑒.
Lady, do you REALLY want to place yourself in a missionary position? 😉
You know what used to happen to missionaries….I’m thinking death, dismemberment, and cannibalism, although I also suspect she might be too bitter and sour to be tasty!
That's the only authorized position. Any other position is 𝘴𝘪𝘯.
There is no definitive evidence Jesus ever even existed, and although there are things attributed to him no one has any idea what he may have actually said. The foundations of Christianity are built of very thin stuff, and yet true believers never stop trying to share their delusions with others. It is NEVER the job of our secular government to backstop anyone’s religion.
Is she preaching, having authority over men and not being silent?
Sinful woman!
Didn't you know? That verse only applies to Democratic women, because reasons.
You earn some protection when you carry water for the patriarchy.
This reminds me a great deal of the city calendar I received several years ago which contained a very specific religious message promoting Christmas from a Christian viewpoint, without mentioning any other religious holiday in all its 12 month span. I consulted with my friends at the Northern Ohio Freethought Society and they agreed with me that it was a violation of The Establishment Clause of the First Amendment. I wrote the mayor about it, indicating the improper nature of that calendars content and suggesting corrective action. To my great surprise, he agreed, and subsequent calendars issued by the city have been far more secular in their nature.
Somehow I get the feeling that Secretary Rollins will be nowhere near as responsive as the above mentioned mayor was. Might be time to give the FFRF a call.
Not Jesuseaster again.
Lady, Easter is a pagan celebration stolen by xtians. It has ZIP to do with Jeebus. Easter is the Spring equinox, a time of renewal, fertitlity and sex. Lots of sex. The reason for the season? Axial tilt, not Jesus.
And chocolate.
Cambridge University: https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~ek358/learner_summaries/data/B2/4.txt Chocolate:
The Aztecs used cocoa beans as money. They also used them to make a drink called xocoatl. This is from the word in the Aztec language, Nahuatl, meaning 'bitter water'.
Which brings us to Numbers 5:18-25 where "bitter water" is used as an abortifacient. So, did the ancient Hebrews discover Mesoamerica? Obviously not: even Erich von Daniken wouldn't go that far.
And the rabbits are hares.
Mind wandering: old age.
Sometimes a wandering mind comes up with a new realization about the universe.
Chocolate bunnies!!!! Cadbury eggs!!!! PEEPS!!!
You had me until the last one. 🤢
I’’l take yours, then (the chocolate mousse ones in particular. And the tropical fruit varieties wouldn’t go amiss, either).
Well, "Up to a point, Lord Copper" (Evelyn Waugh: Scoop): Easter is tied to the Jewish Passover celebration, which is tied to a lunar calendar, which is why it's on a different date each year. Passover celebrates the deistic murder of tens, or more, thousands of children in Egypt because omnipotent JHWH couldn't think of any other way to change the, unnamed and therefore untraceable, pharaoh's mind about freeing the Hebrew population of Egypt.
Needless to say, there is no other evidence of this event.
Better yet, according to Exodus YHVH "hardened Pharoah's heart" so that Pharaoh wouldn't allow the Jews to leave until YHVH hurt the Egyptians more. One more item showing how the so-called merciful god is a sadistic dick.
I remember being quite confused by that very thing when listening to this story in Sunday School. Even then I already knew no questions would be allowed.
At first glance, I read that as "Jesuseater."
Hmph. Communion, anyone? 😁
Thank you!
Because she just can't be content to celebrate her faith in private and has to bully others with it instead, undercutting her own savior's message.
A sign of a failing and declining cult: when you have to force your nonsense on others.
If xtianity had any merits (it doesn't since it promotes slavery, rape, violence, pillaging and murder) those merits would bring in new followers.
I certainly understand that people are allowed to have their personal beliefs, no matter what it is. There is nothing wrong with that. Yet, so many Christian people feel it is their duty to force their belief on everyone. We all can imagine the outcry we would hear if a Muslim, a Hindu, a Taoist etc. would do the same thing Brooke Rollins is doing. Each of us can have our beliefs and live by them, but none of us can force those beliefs on others. She is totally wrong, especially being in a government position.
We SHOULDN'T force our beliefs on others but some people, using "the big stick of government", actually CAN force those beliefs on others. We supposedly had a Constitution that would prevent such an abuse but apparently we were mistaken.
Yes, sadly I have to agree. 'None of us can' is the wrong choice of words. Government certainly can, people in general will certainly try but they can't unless we let them.
Honestly, that Easter abomination of a message combined with the "they'll be in our prayers" towards the plaintiffs with no acknowledgement of other religions' holidays at all- it doesn't read as preaching to me. There's real antagonism here, not just towards non-Christians but for anyone in the government who still respects THE LAW. These messages were clearly written by someone who knows the Establishment Clause and wants to be as performative about violating it as humanly possible.
It doesn't read as preaching, because preaching implies persuasion. This implies coercion.
Definitely. The 'we's and 'our's make my freaking blood boil.
I agree. She's intentionally trolling, IMO.
It honestly wouldn't surprise me if this was also part of a Republican-wide deliberate legal strategy TO undermine the Establishment Clause with the eventual hope of having SCOTUS shitcan it.
I don't know if it even needs to be a 'deliberate strategy'. We've just got a bunch of like-minded people appointed to office who all push their religious views on civil servant employees and dare the courts to say no. They don't need to coordinate it because they all have the same religious and political outlook.
I don't really see Trump's executive as a group of like minded people expressing their religious views. I see them as political cult members using cult jargon as provacatively as possible both to normalize it and isolate/alienate/subdue non-cult members.
Sure they are. Hesgeth sends a weekly invite to christian church services to all DoD employees in the Pentagon. But nobody thinks he and Sec. Rollins get together in some back room to cackle madly about how they can push Christianity on their employees - they don't need to, they just each naturally do it.
Like it's all in Project 2025, which I would categorize as a deliberate strategy
They don't need to cackle in back rooms, you're right, because neither is an independent thinker. They are both from the same ecosystem and already understand what they need to do.
I mean, it is the underlying thread throughout Project 2025 and Project Ethyl and whatever else they’re using to govern. It’s intentional or planned as much as it is not scripted and individualized.
Anyone who willingly works for trump is a bad person, no exceptions. None of these so called secretaries serve the people, only the orange pedophile.
Her imaginary friend in the clouds has done nothing to protect this country's citizens from all the harm her real boss (the orange one) has done.
If the eye in the sky were real, Trump (a guy who thinks he IS a god) would have never ascended to power.
Sadly, I doubt that Secretary Rollins sees (or is willing to admit she sees!) anything wrong with Trump's actions as president. The fact is, she lives under the same Damoclean sword that every other Trump appointee does!
She sees Trump as God ordained to make America a mandatory Christian nation, therefore anything he does is God's will. Thus, she will shut down what's left of her conscience and cherry-pick her Bible to justify his actions.
Any 'god' that supports trump, if such a god existed, would be a real piece of shit.
If the Abrahamic god did exist, he was a shit long before Trump came on the scene:
𝑇ℎ𝑒 𝐺𝑜𝑑 𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑂𝑙𝑑 𝑇𝑒𝑠𝑡𝑎𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝑖𝑠 𝑎𝑟𝑔𝑢𝑎𝑏𝑙𝑦 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑚𝑜𝑠𝑡 𝑢𝑛𝑝𝑙𝑒𝑎𝑠𝑎𝑛𝑡 𝑐ℎ𝑎𝑟𝑎𝑐𝑡𝑒𝑟 𝑖𝑛 𝑎𝑙𝑙 𝑓𝑖𝑐𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛: 𝑗𝑒𝑎𝑙𝑜𝑢𝑠 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑝𝑟𝑜𝑢𝑑 𝑜𝑓 𝑖𝑡; 𝑎 𝑝𝑒𝑡𝑡𝑦, 𝑢𝑛𝑗𝑢𝑠𝑡, 𝑢𝑛𝑓𝑜𝑟𝑔𝑖𝑣𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑡𝑟𝑜𝑙-𝑓𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑘; 𝑎 𝑣𝑖𝑛𝑑𝑖𝑐𝑡𝑖𝑣𝑒, 𝑏𝑙𝑜𝑜𝑑𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑟𝑠𝑡𝑦 𝑒𝑡ℎ𝑛𝑖𝑐 𝑐𝑙𝑒𝑎𝑛𝑠𝑒𝑟; 𝑎 𝑚𝑖𝑠𝑜𝑔𝑦𝑛𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑐, ℎ𝑜𝑚𝑜𝑝ℎ𝑜𝑏𝑖𝑐, 𝑟𝑎𝑐𝑖𝑠𝑡, 𝑖𝑛𝑓𝑎𝑛𝑡𝑖𝑐𝑖𝑑𝑎𝑙, 𝑔𝑒𝑛𝑜𝑐𝑖𝑑𝑎𝑙, 𝑓𝑖𝑙𝑖𝑐𝑖𝑑𝑎𝑙, 𝑝𝑒𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑙𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑖𝑎𝑙, 𝑚𝑒𝑔𝑎𝑙𝑜𝑚𝑎𝑛𝑖𝑎𝑐𝑎𝑙, 𝑠𝑎𝑑𝑜𝑚𝑎𝑠𝑜𝑐ℎ𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑐, 𝑐𝑎𝑝𝑟𝑖𝑐𝑖𝑜𝑢𝑠𝑙𝑦 𝑚𝑎𝑙𝑒𝑣𝑜𝑙𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝑏𝑢𝑙𝑙𝑦...
-- Richard Dawkins, The God Delusion
To which Dan Barker (in God: The Most Unpleasant Character in All Fiction) added pyromaniacal, angry, merciless, curse-hurling, vaccicidal, aborticidal, cannibalistic, slavemonger, homicidal, evil and terrorist.
Then he went to work on Jesus.
Yup! I have the book, and I positively LOVE that it shows off both Yahweh and Jesus for what they are, using nothing other than THEIR OWN HOLY BOOK! 🤣🤣🤣
And as a near-direct result, she may find herself spending an inordinate (and UNNECESSARY!*) amount of time in courtrooms! 😝
* "Unnecessary" in that, if she had kept her yap shut, zero problem!
What conscience?
I still like the “he was a test” cartoon (and variants of). Any self-respecting god would have hit them with thunderbolts by now. Dammit, where’s a Zeus-type when you need one?
Nosey, self-righteous Christians don't realize having religion shoved in someone's face can be triggering. The suffering it has caused some people is profound.
Not just triggering, but potentially resulting in legal action, stemming from her presumption on those who don't care for being proselytized via email!
“Either she’s unaware of all that or she doesn’t care.”
She is totally aware and cares very deeply. But the way she cares is the opposite of what is good and right and how we view it. She’s aware she’s infringing on other people’s rights, because she doesn’t believe they should have the rights. She cares because she’s convinced that it is her duty to convert anyone not already on board with her narrow views and strict interpretation of the Bible.
Here’s the thing, we need to be aware and care deeply too. Just like the plaintiffs of this case. Good for them for stepping up. It might not go the way we want it to in the corrupted courts system, but the more we fight the more difficult it will be for them to get their way. They might eventually lose, they will eventually lose. But not if we don’t fight back.
She may think she is in an unassailable position. The Freedom From Religion Foundation or Americans United or American Atheists may instruct her OTHERWISE. It may be that, if this lesson and others like it make the WCN rounds sufficiently, they MAY learn that pulling stunts like Rollins did does NOT pay off in the long haul. Or maybe they will not.
In which case, the lessons continue.
Has she cited Pulp Fiction yet?
Fiction at least.
The day is young yet...
If she ever does, I hope that someone tells her that the guy who wrote and directed that movie is an atheist.
Better class of fiction than that shitty buybull.
Much less violent and gory, too.