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oraxx's avatar

From what I gather, the ill-defined term 'woke' appears to apply to anything that hints of human decency. This is today's America, where the politicians pander to the preachers and view human decency as a character flaw.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

Of course xtians view decency as a flaw. They are taught from childhood that humans are broken and in need of a savior.

Sick sick sick.

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Jane in NC's avatar

Lots of the so-called christian influencers on the right [including the recently deceased Charlie Kirk] claim that empathy is a flaw in our society that needs to be eradicated. Stunning, when the entirety of Jesus's actual teachings was based on empathy, showing they don't know what real christianity is or what their Jesus taught.

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Len Koz's avatar

They only listen to Republican Jesus, wielding his AR-15 from the back of his loyal dinosaur mount.

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John Smith's avatar

Holding the King James Bible, and speaking redneck English!

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John Smith's avatar

That would mean actually reading the gospels, boy are you asking for a lot!

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Kay-El's avatar

If empathy is a flaw I don’t want to be right (wing). :P

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NOGODZ20's avatar

Ironically, elephants (real ones and not Rethuglikkkans) display empathy.

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Bensnewlogin's avatar

Don’t be silly. Jesus didn’t really mean “do to others as you would have them do undo you.” that’s a mistranslation.

It’s “DO unto others…FIRST!”

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

𝑌𝑜𝑢 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 ℎ𝑒𝑎𝑟𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑖𝑡 𝑤𝑎𝑠 𝑠𝑎𝑖𝑑, ‘𝐿𝑜𝑣𝑒 𝑦𝑜𝑢𝑟 𝑛𝑒𝑖𝑔ℎ𝑏𝑜𝑟 𝑎𝑛𝑑 ℎ𝑎𝑡𝑒 𝑦𝑜𝑢𝑟 𝑒𝑛𝑒𝑚𝑦.' 𝐵𝑢𝑡 𝐼 𝑡𝑒𝑙𝑙 𝑦𝑜𝑢, 𝑙𝑜𝑣𝑒 𝑦𝑜𝑢𝑟 𝑒𝑛𝑒𝑚𝑖𝑒𝑠 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑝𝑟𝑎𝑦 𝑓𝑜𝑟 𝑡ℎ𝑜𝑠𝑒 𝑤ℎ𝑜 𝑝𝑒𝑟𝑠𝑒𝑐𝑢𝑡𝑒 𝑦𝑜𝑢...

-- Matthew 5:43-44

Tsk, tsk, tsk, one more of those lousy little biblical quotes that just slide right by people like Hegseth.

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Len Koz's avatar

They don't like the flavor of that particular cherry.

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

Of course they don't. These are the Christians that LOVE to punch DOWN and get upset when they're called on that.

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Jane in NC's avatar

100%. If you told 'christians' that schools were teaching anything their Jesus actually said, they'd scream it was woke socialist marxist communism.

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ericc's avatar

I doubt they bothered considering content; it's just guilt by association. College Board creates APs. DeSantis and other conservatives don't like some social science APs. Since College Board also creates SAT, the SAT must be evil.

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Straw's avatar

APs, I lost what that is. Help?

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

Advanced placement : college courses you take in high school to win credits.

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Donrox's avatar

Exactement!

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Sarah Longstaff's avatar

I agree that the College Board is a monopoly that, along with the likes of Pearson, have destroyed education in this country. I would be in favor of getting rid of them. But not by replacing education meant to prepare kids to be worker drones with education meant to teach kids that the End Times are coming and they should “get right with god before The Rapture”! It’s so ironic that DeSantis decided they weren’t far-right enough. Or that they didn’t give him as good a deal as Viktor Orban’s Mathias Corvinus Collegium propaganda factory that feeds Hillsdale College/ Chris Rufo/ Heritage Foundation/ evil Richard Corcoran, etc.

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Holytape's avatar

That not true. You must show human decency towards them. The flaw is only when you show it to people the don't like

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John Roberts's avatar

"today's America" including the United States🤔

Thanks

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RegularJoe's avatar

The opposite of 'woke' is *stroke*.

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Don Hawkins's avatar

while the preachers are butt-fooking Altar boys.

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Joe King's avatar

[𝑇]ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑒’𝑠 𝑎 𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑓𝑒𝑟𝑒𝑛𝑐𝑒 𝑓𝑜𝑟 𝑤𝑜𝑟𝑘𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑎𝑟𝑒 𝑤ℎ𝑖𝑡𝑒, 𝑊𝑒𝑠𝑡𝑒𝑟𝑛 𝐸𝑢𝑟𝑜𝑝𝑒𝑎𝑛, 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝐽𝑢𝑑𝑒𝑜-𝐶ℎ𝑟𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑎𝑛.

So, these actual classics are out: 𝘛𝘰 𝘒𝘪𝘭𝘭 𝘢 𝘔𝘰𝘤𝘬𝘪𝘯𝘨𝘣𝘪𝘳𝘥, written by a woman and the main black character was innocent of crime. 𝘓𝘦𝘵𝘵𝘦𝘳 𝘍𝘳𝘰𝘮 𝘈 𝘉𝘪𝘳𝘮𝘪𝘯𝘨𝘩𝘢𝘮 𝘑𝘢𝘪𝘭, they might accept something from MLK as a token, but only that one snippet of the "I have a dream" speech. 𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘎𝘳𝘢𝘱𝘦𝘴 𝘰𝘧 𝘞𝘳𝘢𝘵𝘩, well that's commie stuff. 𝘕𝘢𝘳𝘳𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘷𝘦 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘓𝘪𝘧𝘦 𝘰𝘧 𝘍𝘳𝘦𝘥𝘦𝘳𝘪𝘤𝘬 𝘋𝘰𝘶𝘨𝘭𝘢𝘴𝘴, 𝘢𝘯 𝘈𝘮𝘦𝘳𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘯 𝘚𝘭𝘢𝘷𝘦, their objection is in the title, they want to deny slavery is bad, and some want to deny it even was a thing.

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OwossoHarpist's avatar

"An American Tragedy" and "1984," written by two separate men who put sexual references inside those pages. Not to mention the latter explaining how the government can manipulate the minds of party members into strictly conform to the Party's ways.

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Sarah Longstaff's avatar

In high school I read Upton Sinclair’s The Jungle—about the child labor Republicans want to bring back—and The Kiss of the Spiderwoman—about a sort-of gay relationship between Argentinian torture victims in a prison. I did not like literature classes, but books like Chekov’s Metamorphosis and stories like Mark Twain’s The Man That Corrupted Hadleyburg still affect my politics to this day. No out-of-control capitalism, no child labor, no torture prisons, and no depriving people of temptation thinking it will protect them.

Pearson however, if it even allowed “passages” from those “texts” to be taught at all, would just focus on whether Manuel Puig used punctuation correctly or on which “transition phrases” Checkov used between paragraphs. Nothing about ethics or (secular) morality. 🤦‍♀️

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John Smith's avatar

I am not surprised at all, the elite members of the fascist Christian Nationalist don’t want intelligent soldiers that may question orders. The leaders of MAGAS want mindless drones that will follow orders blindly and willingly even if the orders are to commit atrocities.

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Boreal's avatar

It's why maga/xtian nationalists hate "liberal education" because the liberal arts are the underpinnings of critical thinking and producing civic minded citizens.

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Linda Bower's avatar

🎯

Along with all the other attacks on education and forced indoctrination. The Christian Nationalists REALLY don’t like higher education. I wonder why? They hate cities too. That’s where people come together from all sorts of different backgrounds and break bread.

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Sarah Longstaff's avatar

I just started reading Leaving the Fold. The author is a former fundamentalist turned psychologist who delves into the pathology of Christian fundamentalists and the existential threat they feel when their beliefs are challenged. They also DESPISE Social-Emotional Learning because it teaches children to feel good about themselves without gods and to stand up to bullies. I used to think it was all about money and grift, but Marlene Winell exposes Christian Nationalists as unparented children with intergenerational trauma, abandonment issues, and developmental delays, dependent on outside structure, unable to think or make decisions for themselves. It’s far worse than I imagined. They will never be “persuaded” by “debates”— they need years of therapy. So any kind of education that asks them to show evidence or think for themselves provokes insufferable angst.

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OwossoHarpist's avatar

or kill themselves.

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

The CLT is "the gold standard?!?" IN A PIG'S EYE! Everyone from Trump on down boasts about how our military is the envy of the world, yet they want to use a clearly inferior test to qualify recruits. If I were any long-time noncom or officer from 2nd Lieutenant up to Captain, I would find this move more than a little disturbing. Our military depends on COMPETENT people to deploy and maintain the highly sophisticated weapons systems it uses.

That competency has just been compromised, and for the sound of it, our current Secretary of War (it is now the Department of War, right?) doesn't much care.

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

He is too busy trying to find a way to fire anyone who is not a cis straight white male from the armed forces (websites and cemeteries included).

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Sarah Longstaff's avatar

They actually, inconceivably believe in the End Times. They think they will be Jesus’s army after the Rapture. So they all need to “get right with god.” It’s so much worse than mere “ignorance.”

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Boreal's avatar

Christianity: lowest common denominator of intelligence.

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Old Man Shadow's avatar

What you will have is more fundamentalist kids gaining admission into the academies. Kids who will not have ever been presented with ideas that challenge their fundamentalist upbringing. Kids who will not have experienced diversity in their lives. Kids who were not taught critical thinking skills, but sophistry.

Kids trained in obedience to authority rather than acting on their own initiative.

Kids who resent women in the military.

Kids whose philosophical education ended before the Enlightenment.

These will be future officers in the United States military.

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Linda Bower's avatar

Frightening stuff

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Joe King's avatar

𝐼𝑛 𝑀𝑎𝑦, [𝐻𝑒𝑔𝑠𝑒𝑡ℎ]𝑐𝑎𝑙𝑙𝑒𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝐶𝐿𝑇 𝑡ℎ𝑒 “𝑔𝑜𝑙𝑑 𝑠𝑡𝑎𝑛𝑑𝑎𝑟𝑑.”

I guess that makes the SAT and ACT the platinum standard.

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Boreal's avatar

I thought Kegsbreath's gold standard was Goldschläger.

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wreck's avatar

Cuervo Gold.

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Linda Bower's avatar

Says the DUI hire. Is this what merit based looks like Pete? Good job 👏

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Jane in NC's avatar

So, after all those years of ranting about 'lower standards' for affirmative action student, christians now want their own affirmative action standards because they can't cut it on the SATs. Well, well......

Also, I dare anybody on the right to actually define 'woke.' It's just another buzz word for 'stuff we don't like.'

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Joe King's avatar

Affirmative action was never really about lowering standards, it was about making sure marginalized people who met the standards had a chance to actually participate. Their version? Actual lowering of standards to get their preferred students preferential treatment.

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Val Uptuous NotAgain's avatar

“It’s honestly shocking that Kevin Sorbo isn’t the CLT’s spokesperson.”

It’s not shocking that Sorbo isn’t involved in CLT, I’m sure he’s unable to locate it.

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Zizzer-Zazzer-Zuzz's avatar

Disappointed!

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NOGODZ20's avatar

Religion (read: Christianity) repeatedly proving itself to be a monument to ignorance.

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Bensnewlogin's avatar

I don’t have too much to say about this. For once it isn’t the coffee. As hemant notes, this is just one more effort by the unwoke mind virus to take over the rest of the Borg. You will be assimilated. Or maybe, it’s putting the ass back into assimilated.

This is what stood out: “ By indulging right-wing Christians, this administration isn’t just lowering the bar; it’s weaponizing education, ensuring the next generation of military leaders are less informed, less capable, and more ideologically identical. It’s the worst possible way to run our service academies.”

It may be the worst way to run our service academies, but it’s the best way to make sure you have an obedient population of Christoborg, ready to do The lard’s work.

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Holytape's avatar

Lowing standards so a preferred ethic and religious group has a better chance of being accepted..... Oh my God, the DEI calling coming from the house all along!! Du-du-dumnmmb!!!

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larry parker's avatar

Radioing from inside the base.

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Sean's avatar

The Behind the Bastards podcast did a 2-parter on him. I highly recommend it. Watch it before the thought police take it down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUU8NTFHCvk

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ericc's avatar
4hEdited

Two more highly negative findings to consider:

1. When CLT did their comparison of SAT to CLT scores, they didn't control for time. IOW a student could take the CLT their junior year, learn stuff, take their SAT senior year, and that data would be used by CLT to say what an equivalent score is, artificially inflating the 'difficulty' of their test.

2. When ACT and SAT commission a comparison, the analysts ask students to tell them what university they're attending, then use that info to get the student's official score from the university (i.e. sent directly from the testing company to the university). When CLT did it's "comparison" with SAT, they asked the students in the survey to self-report their SAT scores...and what a surprise, when an independent company checked this, they found out >20% of the self-reported scores used by CLT were inflated. This would again result in CLT looking tougher than it really is.

From https://research.collegeboard.org/reports/sat-suite/concordance/higher-ed-brief-clt-sat

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

"it’s weaponizing education, ensuring the next generation of military leaders are less informed, less capable, and more ideologically identical."

If the military academies' curriculum is based on the SAT and public high schools standards, even if students who take the CLT may enter, they won't be able to follow it and will probably have to drop out. They won't become officers but they will waste the time and money the academy could have given to a better student who scored high on their SAT.

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ericc's avatar
3hEdited

Unfortunately no.

The retention rate for the academies is much higher. Around 80% graduate within 4 years vs. the national average of 50%.

This makes sense given that DOD is simultaneously both the educator and the employer of the graduates.

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Joe King's avatar

Students taking the CLT will be unprepared for the academic rigor of the non-ideological first year subjects like calculus, engineering, and organic chemistry.

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Sean's avatar

Considering the impact of AI on students and how education is accepting the dumbing-down effects, I suspect the academies will do the same.

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John Roberts's avatar

"much more religious" No surprises here, little do many in the United states know all the military branches spend millions every year on religions. Providing, maintaining facilities with high ranking clergy. Offering special privileges and services to believers. The thee Abrahamic religions have indirect control religion in the military.

As a USAF vet and having two sons currently serving in the USAF. Keep religion out of the United States government and its military. IMO its slowly dividing them to the point where the country will become a total theocracy sooner than later. Rest assured the MAGA cult and its Christian nationalist will be pleased.

In God We Trust? 🤔

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