and to think that Trump, himself, is an atheist. A bad atheist.
I've never heard anyone deny it. Of course, I don't know, really, in the sense that I haven't asked him, but every atheist I've asked sadly agrees: Trump is an atheist.
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That's what the makeup is for. If he was his natural full of shit brown, his base would be tempted to deport him.
I do agree, NOGODZ20, that Paine was wicked cool and deserves more credit than he gets. A great Paine fan here.
And, because it happened, Washington had the 1st pamphlet in Paine's "The American Crises" read by officers to all soldiers the night before they rowed across the Delaware River to surprise and defeat the English/Hessians.
Paine was with Washington in the retreat from New York but sent to Philadelphia to pick up the pen. Sent back the 1st pamphlet to Washington in time for a read before the row.
and to think that Trump, himself, is an atheist. A bad atheist.
I've never heard anyone deny it. Of course, I don't know, really, in the sense that I haven't asked him, but every atheist I've asked sadly agrees: Trump is an atheist.
It is never the job of our secular government to backstop anyone's religion. The evangelicals know they're losing the long game and they're desperate to have government step in and do exactly that. No matter how unconstitutional it may be. On a broader sense, I feel that as long as a significant share of the human race continues to view faith as a virtue the human race has little chance of long-term survival. Trump is the most amoral President in our history, and he's playing the preachers for the fools they are.
I’m no lawyer, but it seems we need some teeth in The Constitution so that violating someone’s Constitutional Rights makes them susceptible to charges and convictions.
Top 250 "victories" for people of (Republican party approved) faith, padded with nearly all bullshit? Yeah, that tracks. Make the base feel good about their excessive privilege, just in time for the midterms. I'm with Hemant on this: the timing of the release of this self congratulating list of Christian Fucking Privilege advancement is designed to counter the basement level approval ratings of Dumpsterfire. They know they are heading into a massive blue wave. Texas, just 2 years ago was R+12. The state is now in play for Democrats.
They know they will probably lose. If they can get all the bigots out to vote, they have a chance at a smaller margin to lose by.
Lies lies lies. Evangelicals lie every time their lips move. I read this as Dear Leader is desperate to keep the evangelicals on his side come midterms. We all know they will vote Republican no matter what, ha. What’s truly despicable is courting their vote in the first place. They will never ever be satisfied with any amount of pain and suffering they cause others. How exhausting it must be. Here’s one example of a recent move to court their votes:
The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) launched a drinking water study in September 2026 to test for traces of the abortion pills mifepristone and misoprostol, alongside more than 1,400 other chemicals 🥴
"If you mean raw chemical components at bulk market prices, a human body is worth less than $0.10 per pound in most modern estimates, and up to $1 per pound if you use high‑purity industrial prices."
It depends what you sell. Human growth hormone can be bought for $430/mg (https://www.mybiosource.com/human-growth-hormone-hgh) and although I did not find a source for the total content per person that could be a tidy sum. There are probably other similarly priced chemicals.
O/T: Meanwhile, that Dumb Idiot Ken Ham is trying to manipulate the acting mayor of Williamstown, KY into allowing him to build a fire station on his Ark Encounter property.
"Will the Ark Park get a free fire station from the City of Williamstown? Is the Ark going to announce a Tower of Babel ride soon (and get more tax incentives)?"
Seems Hammy would want to avoid the Tower of Babel. It demonstrated YHVHs fear of humans and an admission of how a united humanity could accomplish anything.
He was so afraid that he decided to take away the one language they all shared and had them all speak different languages so they couldn't work together, dividing them one against the other.
Not exactly a shining moment for the god of the bible.
The way things are going, I think Dumb Idiot Ham is trying to build a penal colony where his young earth cult will thrive, science of all types gets completely shut out and everyone living there young and old would fully embrace his toxic fantasies throughout their lives, just like "Jonestown" in Guyana and David Koresh's compound in Waco, Texas.
So the Trump administration is lying their asses off about their accomplishments regarding religion while in office. Must be a day that ends in "Y." What this is more than anything else is Donald Trump kissing up to the one portion of his base that will probably never give him up: radical right Evangelical Christians. Considering Trump's failing approval numbers, it's probably the only group that still reliably stands behind him.
As for the list, Trump can yap about it all he wants. I seriously doubt it's going to help him come November.
Religious nuts lie. It's their MO. Our own resident apologist (who outed himself as a trumper yesterday) helps with this by both siding us on many issues.
They're like my cat, Spooky ... somewhat. Spooky likes to burrow under the covers of our bed. He thinks no one can see him, but the lump in the comforter is pretty obvious. Same deal with the Trumpsters. The reason for their failure to answer is as obvious as Spooky's lump is.
There are some here who doubt that he did any of these things. But I dare you to read the list with the phrase " for white people" and find one that isn't true
The number one victory is that Trump allowed mere peons like us to grace his presence. Also, he's only crapped his pants twice today. That's a victory for all involved.
So here we have 250 instances of bearing false witness? Isn’t there a poster in a number of public school classrooms saying that’s a no-no?
I’m guessing that either no Christian would propagate this collection of lies or anyone who does so isn’t really a Christian with respect to adhering to the teachings.
This list is reminiscent of the DOGE claims of the savings it created, duplicated line items, inflated line items, line items that were 90% complete but then eliminated wasting the 90% of money already spent, line items that caused death and damage immediately, like items that cause damage and death down the road, line items that ended up costing more, and line items they had to walk back because they caused death and destruction. Plus most items were things that already were ended before they walked in.
This is SOP for the SOBs in charge. Trump is corrupt, he has only corrupt people in his administration that help him be more corrupt. Let’s let him have his bigly list of crimes, let’s let him face penalties for all 250, even if they’re duplicated, he wants the credit, he can have it all the way to his detriment (I was going to say prison cell, but we know that will never happen so detriment will do) History will see him for what he is.
"What is the general reaction to Trump's list of 250 things he's done for Christians?"
The result was rather long, I won't post it here, but was along the lines of Hemant's overall takeaway.... evangelicals love it, almost everyone else is dissatisfied or disgusted.
This leads me to think that the release of the list will have little effect. Evangelicals are going to vote MAGA no matter what, so this won't gain any votes. Anti-Trumpers will still be against anything related to Trump and the report's influence on anyone in-between will be minimal. Most people won't even know about this.
Trump's 250 list won't make the major media at all, I would guess. We know about it because Hemant reported on it, and THEY know about it because Trump.
Banning media outlets from the White House has backfired bigly (yeah, I used it twice today) on the mango meconium. I think this tactic should be continued until the midterms so we can get a real vote rather than the manipulation he has perpetrated on us since 2016. We still know what he’s doing, but he can’t just say whatever and get away with it if no one is listening.
The reaction so far to the White House’s September 17 release of “President Trump’s Top 250 Victories for People of Faith” is fairly polarized - and it’s worth noting that the document is only five days old, so there isn’t yet much polling specifically about the list itself.
The White House presents the 250 items as evidence that Trump is the “most pro-faith, pro-life, and pro-religious liberty president in American history.” The list includes substantive policy actions, executive orders and litigation positions, but also proclamations, speeches, commemorations, investigations, initiatives and actions that critics would characterize as political or cultural rather than specifically religious.
Among conservative evangelical and religious-liberty groups, the response has generally been favorable. Supporters point particularly to the White House Faith Office, Religious Liberty Commission, conscience protections for health-care workers, school choice, restrictions on abortion-related funding, protections for religious organizations receiving federal funds, and actions addressing alleged anti-Christian or anti-Catholic bias in government. CatholicVote, for example, praised Trump's record and argued that his administration has been more protective of Catholics' constitutional rights.
The Catholic reaction is noticeably more complicated. Catholic-oriented coverage acknowledges a number of policies that align with Catholic concerns about religious liberty and abortion. But one of the White House's claimed "victories" is Trump's effort to expand access to IVF. That directly conflicts with Catholic teaching. EWTN/Catholic News Agency also notes criticism from pro-life leaders who believe Trump has not gone far enough regarding mifepristone and Planned Parenthood. Even White House Faith Office Director Jenny Korn acknowledged that there are disagreements with Catholics over IVF.
Other Christians and church-state advocates object to the broader premise. Their concern is less that every item on the list is objectionable and more that the administration increasingly equates a particular set of conservative political positions with the interests of "people of faith." Christian coverage has noted criticism that some policies blur church-state boundaries or privilege Christianity in public life. This criticism isn't entirely new: the administration's government-backed Rededicate 250 religious event earlier this year drew similar objections that it promoted a Christian-nationalist understanding of American history, while participants and supporters regarded it as an appropriate recognition of America's religious heritage.
There's also an interesting fact-checking/definition issue emerging around the number 250. It isn't simply a list of 250 enacted policies. One Christian analysis supportive of many of Trump's policies nevertheless cautioned readers that the White House document mixes enacted policies with proposals, investigations, lawsuits and ceremonial statements, arguing that the administration's list shouldn't be treated as an independent audit of 250 discrete accomplishments. The choice of exactly 250 is also clearly tied to America's 250th anniversary; last September the White House issued a similar 100-item list.
So the reaction can roughly be described as: strong approval from many conservative Christian organizations; qualified approval and some substantive objections within Catholic/pro-life circles; and significant concern among other Christians and church-state advocates about Christian nationalism, religious favoritism, and whether conservative culture-war policies should be characterized as victories for all "people of faith."
One thing I wouldn't conclude yet is that this represents "what Christians think." The coverage I've found since September 17 is mostly statements and reporting from religious organizations and media, rather than representative polling of American Christians about the 250-item list itself.
Bottom line: This is just another attempt by Tangerine Tojo to divert attention from...well, you name it. He has so many scandals, one loses track of what he's trying to get us to look the other way on.
Trump is so full of shit, he should be brown instead of orange.
That's what the makeup is for. If he was his natural full of shit brown, his base would be tempted to deport him.
Deportation was my second thought. :)
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if Trump was Brown his followers would stop supporting him
Give him an enema and he'll disappear.
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Deportation was my second thought. :)
#251 - Lying for Jesus.
That should have been #1.
I think it's all 250...
Pretty soon, it might be incarcerating people for Jesus.
Who Would Jesus Deport?
If Jesus came back, ICE would take one look at him and gang tackle him.
They would claim he was using his donkeys as a deadly weapon and fill him full of bullets.
A Deist gave us a Declaration of Independence which stated that it had had enough of being ruled by a Christian empire.
A Deist gave us a Constitution and a secular government that forbade Christianity and any other form of religion from ruling us.
A Deist gave us a Treaty that explicitly stated the US government was not based on the Christian religion.
I'll take THOSE accomplishments.
And all those deists were within a hair's breadth of being atheists. In the modern day, each of them might well have considered that stance.
Thomas Paine comes to mind immediately. He was an atheist in all but name. What a towering intellect.
Totally agreed. His opposition to religion was laser-focused and unmodified. He may well have been the Christopher Hitchens of his age.
His hatred of slavery and refusal to participate in it certainly made him a rare voice in his time.
Jefferson was an Epicurean.
I do agree, NOGODZ20, that Paine was wicked cool and deserves more credit than he gets. A great Paine fan here.
And, because it happened, Washington had the 1st pamphlet in Paine's "The American Crises" read by officers to all soldiers the night before they rowed across the Delaware River to surprise and defeat the English/Hessians.
Paine was with Washington in the retreat from New York but sent to Philadelphia to pick up the pen. Sent back the 1st pamphlet to Washington in time for a read before the row.
The pen is mightier than the sword.
I am also an admirer of Thomas Paine.
As an aside, might I remark that Edward Bulwer-Lytton's actual bon mot in Richelieu was
. Beneath the rule of men entirely great,
. The pen is mightier than the sword.
That does limit the power somewhat. Yes, pedantry, but I think the full quote is important.
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I've never heard anyone deny it. Of course, I don't know, really, in the sense that I haven't asked him, but every atheist I've asked sadly agrees: Trump is an atheist.
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It is never the job of our secular government to backstop anyone's religion. The evangelicals know they're losing the long game and they're desperate to have government step in and do exactly that. No matter how unconstitutional it may be. On a broader sense, I feel that as long as a significant share of the human race continues to view faith as a virtue the human race has little chance of long-term survival. Trump is the most amoral President in our history, and he's playing the preachers for the fools they are.
They're not fools. They just seek power like moths seek light.
I’m going to only see moths now every time I spot an evangelical 🤣 Thank you
I’m no lawyer, but it seems we need some teeth in The Constitution so that violating someone’s Constitutional Rights makes them susceptible to charges and convictions.
🙌🙌🙌Couldn't be more true.
Top 250 "victories" for people of (Republican party approved) faith, padded with nearly all bullshit? Yeah, that tracks. Make the base feel good about their excessive privilege, just in time for the midterms. I'm with Hemant on this: the timing of the release of this self congratulating list of Christian Fucking Privilege advancement is designed to counter the basement level approval ratings of Dumpsterfire. They know they are heading into a massive blue wave. Texas, just 2 years ago was R+12. The state is now in play for Democrats.
They know they will probably lose. If they can get all the bigots out to vote, they have a chance at a smaller margin to lose by.
He's afraid.
And he should be.
Just as afraid as we are......
J6 was just a warm up for what’s to come.
That's what I'm afraid of. J6 emboldened the MAGAt crowd and the J6 pardons racheted that up to the nth degree.
Lies lies lies. Evangelicals lie every time their lips move. I read this as Dear Leader is desperate to keep the evangelicals on his side come midterms. We all know they will vote Republican no matter what, ha. What’s truly despicable is courting their vote in the first place. They will never ever be satisfied with any amount of pain and suffering they cause others. How exhausting it must be. Here’s one example of a recent move to court their votes:
The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) launched a drinking water study in September 2026 to test for traces of the abortion pills mifepristone and misoprostol, alongside more than 1,400 other chemicals 🥴
Meanwhile, the EPA should concentrate on whether or not the water is even safe to drink, period.
💯The whole thing is a front to ban just those pills for “environmental reasons”.
As for number 14, valued life. They did value life and found it surprisingly cheap. Less that five cents a pound.
"If you mean raw chemical components at bulk market prices, a human body is worth less than $0.10 per pound in most modern estimates, and up to $1 per pound if you use high‑purity industrial prices."
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> "Less that five cents a pound."
Yes, but that's bone-in. Boneless cuts are more expensive. Still, cheaper than beef. 😋
It depends what you sell. Human growth hormone can be bought for $430/mg (https://www.mybiosource.com/human-growth-hormone-hgh) and although I did not find a source for the total content per person that could be a tidy sum. There are probably other similarly priced chemicals.
O/T: Meanwhile, that Dumb Idiot Ken Ham is trying to manipulate the acting mayor of Williamstown, KY into allowing him to build a fire station on his Ark Encounter property.
"Will the Ark Park get a free fire station from the City of Williamstown? Is the Ark going to announce a Tower of Babel ride soon (and get more tax incentives)?"
Read the article here on The Panda's Thumb.
https://pandasthumb.org/archives/2026/09/williamstown-secret-deal.html
Hambone wants the fire station on Ark property so he can argue that the $0.50 per ticket surcharge is no longer needed.
Seems Hammy would want to avoid the Tower of Babel. It demonstrated YHVHs fear of humans and an admission of how a united humanity could accomplish anything.
He was so afraid that he decided to take away the one language they all shared and had them all speak different languages so they couldn't work together, dividing them one against the other.
Not exactly a shining moment for the god of the bible.
The author of that story forgot that people can learn more than one language.
But many of them are too lazy/stupid/xenophobic to do so. Yahweh made them that way
Really doesn't like the declining admission stats getting out.
The way things are going, I think Dumb Idiot Ham is trying to build a penal colony where his young earth cult will thrive, science of all types gets completely shut out and everyone living there young and old would fully embrace his toxic fantasies throughout their lives, just like "Jonestown" in Guyana and David Koresh's compound in Waco, Texas.
Would that Kendegarde Hamhocker slither his sorry ass back into the Slimy Gulch from whence he emerged.
So the Trump administration is lying their asses off about their accomplishments regarding religion while in office. Must be a day that ends in "Y." What this is more than anything else is Donald Trump kissing up to the one portion of his base that will probably never give him up: radical right Evangelical Christians. Considering Trump's failing approval numbers, it's probably the only group that still reliably stands behind him.
As for the list, Trump can yap about it all he wants. I seriously doubt it's going to help him come November.
Religious nuts lie. It's their MO. Our own resident apologist (who outed himself as a trumper yesterday) helps with this by both siding us on many issues.
Why do the Trumpanzees not understand that when they refuse to answer the question we know why they refuse?
They're like my cat, Spooky ... somewhat. Spooky likes to burrow under the covers of our bed. He thinks no one can see him, but the lump in the comforter is pretty obvious. Same deal with the Trumpsters. The reason for their failure to answer is as obvious as Spooky's lump is.
Except that Spooky is a LOT more lovable!
Was it DG? I missed that.
There are some here who doubt that he did any of these things. But I dare you to read the list with the phrase " for white people" and find one that isn't true
The number one victory is that Trump allowed mere peons like us to grace his presence. Also, he's only crapped his pants twice today. That's a victory for all involved.
So here we have 250 instances of bearing false witness? Isn’t there a poster in a number of public school classrooms saying that’s a no-no?
I’m guessing that either no Christian would propagate this collection of lies or anyone who does so isn’t really a Christian with respect to adhering to the teachings.
Everyone involved is a True Christian™
This list is reminiscent of the DOGE claims of the savings it created, duplicated line items, inflated line items, line items that were 90% complete but then eliminated wasting the 90% of money already spent, line items that caused death and damage immediately, like items that cause damage and death down the road, line items that ended up costing more, and line items they had to walk back because they caused death and destruction. Plus most items were things that already were ended before they walked in.
This is SOP for the SOBs in charge. Trump is corrupt, he has only corrupt people in his administration that help him be more corrupt. Let’s let him have his bigly list of crimes, let’s let him face penalties for all 250, even if they’re duplicated, he wants the credit, he can have it all the way to his detriment (I was going to say prison cell, but we know that will never happen so detriment will do) History will see him for what he is.
I posed this question to Google AI:
"What is the general reaction to Trump's list of 250 things he's done for Christians?"
The result was rather long, I won't post it here, but was along the lines of Hemant's overall takeaway.... evangelicals love it, almost everyone else is dissatisfied or disgusted.
This leads me to think that the release of the list will have little effect. Evangelicals are going to vote MAGA no matter what, so this won't gain any votes. Anti-Trumpers will still be against anything related to Trump and the report's influence on anyone in-between will be minimal. Most people won't even know about this.
Trump's 250 list won't make the major media at all, I would guess. We know about it because Hemant reported on it, and THEY know about it because Trump.
And that's about as far as that goes.
Banning media outlets from the White House has backfired bigly (yeah, I used it twice today) on the mango meconium. I think this tactic should be continued until the midterms so we can get a real vote rather than the manipulation he has perpetrated on us since 2016. We still know what he’s doing, but he can’t just say whatever and get away with it if no one is listening.
Here's how ChatGPT responded to the same query:
The reaction so far to the White House’s September 17 release of “President Trump’s Top 250 Victories for People of Faith” is fairly polarized - and it’s worth noting that the document is only five days old, so there isn’t yet much polling specifically about the list itself.
The White House presents the 250 items as evidence that Trump is the “most pro-faith, pro-life, and pro-religious liberty president in American history.” The list includes substantive policy actions, executive orders and litigation positions, but also proclamations, speeches, commemorations, investigations, initiatives and actions that critics would characterize as political or cultural rather than specifically religious.
Among conservative evangelical and religious-liberty groups, the response has generally been favorable. Supporters point particularly to the White House Faith Office, Religious Liberty Commission, conscience protections for health-care workers, school choice, restrictions on abortion-related funding, protections for religious organizations receiving federal funds, and actions addressing alleged anti-Christian or anti-Catholic bias in government. CatholicVote, for example, praised Trump's record and argued that his administration has been more protective of Catholics' constitutional rights.
The Catholic reaction is noticeably more complicated. Catholic-oriented coverage acknowledges a number of policies that align with Catholic concerns about religious liberty and abortion. But one of the White House's claimed "victories" is Trump's effort to expand access to IVF. That directly conflicts with Catholic teaching. EWTN/Catholic News Agency also notes criticism from pro-life leaders who believe Trump has not gone far enough regarding mifepristone and Planned Parenthood. Even White House Faith Office Director Jenny Korn acknowledged that there are disagreements with Catholics over IVF.
Other Christians and church-state advocates object to the broader premise. Their concern is less that every item on the list is objectionable and more that the administration increasingly equates a particular set of conservative political positions with the interests of "people of faith." Christian coverage has noted criticism that some policies blur church-state boundaries or privilege Christianity in public life. This criticism isn't entirely new: the administration's government-backed Rededicate 250 religious event earlier this year drew similar objections that it promoted a Christian-nationalist understanding of American history, while participants and supporters regarded it as an appropriate recognition of America's religious heritage.
There's also an interesting fact-checking/definition issue emerging around the number 250. It isn't simply a list of 250 enacted policies. One Christian analysis supportive of many of Trump's policies nevertheless cautioned readers that the White House document mixes enacted policies with proposals, investigations, lawsuits and ceremonial statements, arguing that the administration's list shouldn't be treated as an independent audit of 250 discrete accomplishments. The choice of exactly 250 is also clearly tied to America's 250th anniversary; last September the White House issued a similar 100-item list.
So the reaction can roughly be described as: strong approval from many conservative Christian organizations; qualified approval and some substantive objections within Catholic/pro-life circles; and significant concern among other Christians and church-state advocates about Christian nationalism, religious favoritism, and whether conservative culture-war policies should be characterized as victories for all "people of faith."
One thing I wouldn't conclude yet is that this represents "what Christians think." The coverage I've found since September 17 is mostly statements and reporting from religious organizations and media, rather than representative polling of American Christians about the 250-item list itself.
Bottom line: This is just another attempt by Tangerine Tojo to divert attention from...well, you name it. He has so many scandals, one loses track of what he's trying to get us to look the other way on.
A full article in AlterNet!!
Not bad at all, FA!
"Trump’s list of what he’s done for people of faith gets brutal fact-check"
https://www.alternet.org/msn-uk/trump-people-of-faith/
WOOF! Excellent stuff! Thank you, AlterNet!