Instead of citing real issues like abuse and atheist exclusion, the Secretary of Defense claimed Scouting America isn't doing enough to "cultivate masculine values"
For a guy who lectured generals and admirals about body shape and body hair, Hegseth is definitely one insecure male. And everyone who’s watching understands just how weak he is.
Hegseth is operating from a paradigm that went out of fashion about the same time as the twist did. He belongs at the head of a 21st-century armed forces about as well as Mango Mussolini does.
And his actions are doing serious harm to the readiness of our armed forces.
I was raised by a single mom, and Scouting was a big part of my life (I am an Eagle Scout). For me it was a place where a boy could just be a boy. Learning values like self-reliance, achieving goals, and community service were all a part of it. Later, I was in Explorers (high-school aged boys) which was more inclusive of girls, but mostly we wanted to backpack, canoe, and have car rallies.
I am also a Navy veteran, and saw the early days of integrating women into shipboard life. As with Scouting, there were growing pains but largely that has been dealt with. To my mind, it makes no sense to bar 50% of the population from full participation in either Scouting or the Navy. This has happened in all professions, and it is the right thing to do.
It has begun in all professions and some have embraced it more than others, and then there are plenty that are still fighting against it with all their might. Nowadays, it’s being reversed in a very frightening way. I can also attest that there has not been parity yet. There were steps, but even the most accepting professions still discriminate to some extent.
Because they're not MANLY enough ... because they let GIRLS in ... girls with COOTIES!!!
I have to ask, though: why should Hegseth have ANYTHING AT ALL TO DO with decisions regarding the funding for Scouting America. It's already dying a slow death, and all Petey is doing is adding his own absurd input to a situation he won't change.
Do we know if Kegseth was ever in Scouts? Because it would explain an 𝘢𝘸𝘧𝘶𝘭 lot if he turned out to be the kid who pitched a tantrum over not being able to find the left-handed smoke shifter. Might even be his villain origin story!
Two WV National Guard members have been shot in DC; initial reporting said they were killed, but it now seems they're alive in critical condition. They shouldn't have been there in the first place. They didn't deserve to be used as stage props in Chump's attempts to start a Civil War,̷ ̷a̷n̷d̷ ̷t̷h̷e̷y̷ ̷d̷e̷f̷i̷n̷i̷t̷e̷l̷y̷ ̷d̷i̷d̷n̷'̷t̷ ̷d̷e̷s̷e̷r̷v̷e̷ ̷t̷o̷ ̷d̷i̷e̷ ̷l̷i̷k̷e̷ ̷t̷h̷i̷s̷. I hope the perp faces justice... but I hope the bastards who sent them on this bullshit mission in the first place face justice some day, too. We're not at war, and they're not toy soldiers- they're human beings. I don't even want to speculate on what comes next. We're all thinking it, and it's fucking ghoulish. They should still be at home with their families, getting ready to stuff their faces tomorrow.
The WV governor initially said they had been killed but he was mistaken and walked it back. The story I just looked at said they are in critical condition.
Yup, looks like somebody got ahead of the facts in the race to the microphone. Point still stands, though. There shouldn't have been any troops in that city to 𝘣𝘦 shot. Waste of life to satisfy the urge of one sad little shit of a manbaby to play with humans like they're toys.
Completely agree on your main point. My sister was in DC last week and over the weekend and said the NG were standing around metro stations looking bored.
As I wrote just yesterday, or possibly today, I have been writing about the scouts for at least 20 years, probably longer. They have had an ongoing sexual molestation problem which they tried to cover up in true Roman Catholic style.
A safe space for boys? 82,000 lawsuits say something differently. And since they didn’t allow either gay scout masters or gay scouts, who is doing all of that molesting? Men identified by the scouts, their churches, their communities, families, wives, children, and above all, by themselves as heterosexual.
Because of course they were.
I worked for the scouts 52 years ago. I lasted about a month before I quit. I did not like the overly militaristic viewpoint of so many of my colleagues. I was a short haired hippie who wore bellbottoms and Hawaiian shirts. They didn’t like that. I also did not like the paranoia regarding gay people. Quite apart from the homophobia itself, I knew there was something definitely wrong with their fears. But the information about molestation was how shall we put it— kept under extreme wraps.
At least the scouts finally did the right thing 10 years ago.
Hegseth and this entire administration feel deeply threatened by independent empowered women. Their attacks on reproductive rights and economic opportunities are all part of a strategic plan. Independent women are not easily controlled and we strongly dislike authoritarians.
I had no idea the Scouts excluded atheists. Probably for the same reasons. I do wonder if this is more of the same damage control rolling out for the big USA is one giant pedophile ring situation we are finding ourselves in.
My older son was a scout and earned his Eagle. He was atheist from about the time of his bar mitzvah. I think most of his fellow older scouts were atheist. There was an Eagle Review Board that interviewed Eagle candidates. It was the final hurdle. There were rumors of boys being asked if they believed in god. We practiced with our son how to answer that question by drawing on Jewish tradition. He wasn’t asked, as it happened.
It makes perfect sense. The idea of the Scouts always gave me the creeps, but I didn’t quite understand why. I did watch the recent documentary on the horrific abuse.
I can't remember what it is, but there's a movie featuring androids with heads that look like they're just human faces stitched onto a robot. The effect is very similar.
ETA I don't know if I was thinking of the original Robocop, but kind of like that.
I keep telling them – YouTubers – that I'm not prepared to waste 40 minutes on a prick like that even though he's being "owned" "destroyed" or even "pwned". Give me the Cliff's Notes version in 5 minutes. Sometimes I will leave it running in the background but life's too short especially at 76.
I just saw this new article, I- don’t have time to read it. Of course Kegsbreath’s reasons are absurd. My 17 year old daughter would run circles around him in the military. Anyway, I’ll read it later tonight and comment more then.
I was a Cub Scout in the 70s. Among the masculine cultivating activities I participated in were decorating a heart and writing a poem to my mommy for Valentine’s Day, painting a Christmas ornament (so weird and ugly that it still finds a place in our tree), writing a letter to President Nixon to tell him how awesome he was, and playing a starring role in a skit about ecology. Unfortunately, I missed the parts where we learned that Girl Scouts were to look purty and bake us some damned cookies, unmasculine non-scouts needed their butts kicked and to hand over their lunch money, and rules were for suckers not for warriors.
Got my draft notice in 1970. During introduction at basic training, we were asked if anybody had been in the Boy Scouts. Those individuals were made squad leaders and were fast tracked to promotions. They already had "training" in field craft, marching, uniforms, etc.
Masculine? Has Hegseth taken a good long look at his boss? Does he truly see the definition of masculinity instead of a whiny oversized toddler?
Does he have a mirror? Cause you can say the same for him as well as Trump.
For a guy who lectured generals and admirals about body shape and body hair, Hegseth is definitely one insecure male. And everyone who’s watching understands just how weak he is.
Hegseth is operating from a paradigm that went out of fashion about the same time as the twist did. He belongs at the head of a 21st-century armed forces about as well as Mango Mussolini does.
And his actions are doing serious harm to the readiness of our armed forces.
I was raised by a single mom, and Scouting was a big part of my life (I am an Eagle Scout). For me it was a place where a boy could just be a boy. Learning values like self-reliance, achieving goals, and community service were all a part of it. Later, I was in Explorers (high-school aged boys) which was more inclusive of girls, but mostly we wanted to backpack, canoe, and have car rallies.
I am also a Navy veteran, and saw the early days of integrating women into shipboard life. As with Scouting, there were growing pains but largely that has been dealt with. To my mind, it makes no sense to bar 50% of the population from full participation in either Scouting or the Navy. This has happened in all professions, and it is the right thing to do.
You are making way too much sense Craig...
It has begun in all professions and some have embraced it more than others, and then there are plenty that are still fighting against it with all their might. Nowadays, it’s being reversed in a very frightening way. I can also attest that there has not been parity yet. There were steps, but even the most accepting professions still discriminate to some extent.
𝑇ℎ𝑒 𝑖𝑟𝑜𝑛𝑦 𝑖𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝐻𝑒𝑔𝑠𝑒𝑡ℎ 𝑑𝑜𝑒𝑠𝑛’𝑡 𝑤𝑎𝑛𝑡 𝑡𝑜 𝑠𝑢𝑝𝑝𝑜𝑟𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑆𝑐𝑜𝑢𝑡𝑠 𝒃𝒆𝒄𝒂𝒖𝒔𝒆 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒚’𝒓𝒆 𝒏𝒐𝒕 𝒆𝒙𝒄𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒗𝒆 𝒆𝒏𝒐𝒖𝒈𝒉...
Because they're not MANLY enough ... because they let GIRLS in ... girls with COOTIES!!!
I have to ask, though: why should Hegseth have ANYTHING AT ALL TO DO with decisions regarding the funding for Scouting America. It's already dying a slow death, and all Petey is doing is adding his own absurd input to a situation he won't change.
Do we know if Kegseth was ever in Scouts? Because it would explain an 𝘢𝘸𝘧𝘶𝘭 lot if he turned out to be the kid who pitched a tantrum over not being able to find the left-handed smoke shifter. Might even be his villain origin story!
Left-handed smoke shifters, like left handed scissors, are quite rare. Right-handed smoke shifters are a dime a dozen.
https://www.frakturdesign.com/left-handed-smoke-shifter/
Appreciate the link since I had no clue what that even was.
My brother wants to know if they also sell Relative Bearing Oil.
OT- Oooooh fuck. https://apnews.com/live/trump-news-updates-11-26-2025
Two WV National Guard members have been shot in DC; initial reporting said they were killed, but it now seems they're alive in critical condition. They shouldn't have been there in the first place. They didn't deserve to be used as stage props in Chump's attempts to start a Civil War,̷ ̷a̷n̷d̷ ̷t̷h̷e̷y̷ ̷d̷e̷f̷i̷n̷i̷t̷e̷l̷y̷ ̷d̷i̷d̷n̷'̷t̷ ̷d̷e̷s̷e̷r̷v̷e̷ ̷t̷o̷ ̷d̷i̷e̷ ̷l̷i̷k̷e̷ ̷t̷h̷i̷s̷. I hope the perp faces justice... but I hope the bastards who sent them on this bullshit mission in the first place face justice some day, too. We're not at war, and they're not toy soldiers- they're human beings. I don't even want to speculate on what comes next. We're all thinking it, and it's fucking ghoulish. They should still be at home with their families, getting ready to stuff their faces tomorrow.
*edit- to reflect current reporting.
But I thought Trump got rid of all the crime in DC...
Missed one.
The WV governor initially said they had been killed but he was mistaken and walked it back. The story I just looked at said they are in critical condition.
Yup, looks like somebody got ahead of the facts in the race to the microphone. Point still stands, though. There shouldn't have been any troops in that city to 𝘣𝘦 shot. Waste of life to satisfy the urge of one sad little shit of a manbaby to play with humans like they're toys.
Completely agree on your main point. My sister was in DC last week and over the weekend and said the NG were standing around metro stations looking bored.
Miller arranged it
As I wrote just yesterday, or possibly today, I have been writing about the scouts for at least 20 years, probably longer. They have had an ongoing sexual molestation problem which they tried to cover up in true Roman Catholic style.
A safe space for boys? 82,000 lawsuits say something differently. And since they didn’t allow either gay scout masters or gay scouts, who is doing all of that molesting? Men identified by the scouts, their churches, their communities, families, wives, children, and above all, by themselves as heterosexual.
Because of course they were.
I worked for the scouts 52 years ago. I lasted about a month before I quit. I did not like the overly militaristic viewpoint of so many of my colleagues. I was a short haired hippie who wore bellbottoms and Hawaiian shirts. They didn’t like that. I also did not like the paranoia regarding gay people. Quite apart from the homophobia itself, I knew there was something definitely wrong with their fears. But the information about molestation was how shall we put it— kept under extreme wraps.
At least the scouts finally did the right thing 10 years ago.
Hegseth and this entire administration feel deeply threatened by independent empowered women. Their attacks on reproductive rights and economic opportunities are all part of a strategic plan. Independent women are not easily controlled and we strongly dislike authoritarians.
I had no idea the Scouts excluded atheists. Probably for the same reasons. I do wonder if this is more of the same damage control rolling out for the big USA is one giant pedophile ring situation we are finding ourselves in.
Scouts are supposed "to do my duty to god and my country," so atheists are pretty much out by definition.
I was never a Scout, and I don't feel as though I missed a thing.
In Girl Scouts I learned how to properly wash my face and do crafts 😅
Me too. And a bit of cooking and how to sell cookies, which I still like to eat.
I received a grand total of two badges the time I was in GS: sewing and I don’t remember, but I know there were two on my sash. :D
My older son was a scout and earned his Eagle. He was atheist from about the time of his bar mitzvah. I think most of his fellow older scouts were atheist. There was an Eagle Review Board that interviewed Eagle candidates. It was the final hurdle. There were rumors of boys being asked if they believed in god. We practiced with our son how to answer that question by drawing on Jewish tradition. He wasn’t asked, as it happened.
My kids have a little script about supporting others in their religious beliefs, while not participating in their own.
It makes perfect sense. The idea of the Scouts always gave me the creeps, but I didn’t quite understand why. I did watch the recent documentary on the horrific abuse.
Kegseth loves hanging around cut manly men. Methinks he has unresolved issues that need addressing.
A tiny issue at that.
“Masculine values”
https://ibb.co/whKh0DFp
They know how to make jokes too.
Trump make good joke. Besterest joke of all time. Many people are saying so.
I laugh at Trump all the time.
Trump IS the joke!
The most laughable president ever.
I can't remember what it is, but there's a movie featuring androids with heads that look like they're just human faces stitched onto a robot. The effect is very similar.
ETA I don't know if I was thinking of the original Robocop, but kind of like that.
🤣🤣
Maybe if they changed to name to HE-MAN WARRIOR SCOUTS, Kegstand might embrace them (in a non-homo way of course). When / if he ever sobered up.
Except as @NOGODZ20 said, he's so obsessed with with really buff men that I'm forced to wonder about the non-homo part.
And adult men embracing Boy Scouts is part of why they've lost so many members!
OT- Legal Eagle tallies up the criminal acts of the world's crime-iest criminal over the course of the year: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hybL-GJov7M
It's kind of a lot.
40 minutes? No way. I don’t have enough bourbon for that.
I keep telling them – YouTubers – that I'm not prepared to waste 40 minutes on a prick like that even though he's being "owned" "destroyed" or even "pwned". Give me the Cliff's Notes version in 5 minutes. Sometimes I will leave it running in the background but life's too short especially at 76.
Bon visionnage
https://youtu.be/ZSYx7L2Rc_A?si=UGC-khu9YWUSTfUI
https://youtu.be/gc4_36INQ5A?si=05YW0nNBNAIHsbHJ
Sometimes the shorts are too long.
I don't have enough 𝘭𝘪𝘷𝘦𝘳 for that.
Make it a drinking game. Only drink when someone says fraud ...... no, that won't work.
First, I apologize for duplicating your work.
Second, "It's kind of a lot."??!??!?!!? That's like saying the ocean is a little damp.
I just saw this new article, I- don’t have time to read it. Of course Kegsbreath’s reasons are absurd. My 17 year old daughter would run circles around him in the military. Anyway, I’ll read it later tonight and comment more then.
Read it NOW! : )
Sorry, I had to go to rehearsal. Gotta make Violet Bick really good.
I'm sure you'll be Wonderful.
https://share.google/VTMWCFsOubMKU9cGM
People who don’t read it right away are woke and don’t support boy spaces!!!!!!
/s
I was a Cub Scout in the 70s. Among the masculine cultivating activities I participated in were decorating a heart and writing a poem to my mommy for Valentine’s Day, painting a Christmas ornament (so weird and ugly that it still finds a place in our tree), writing a letter to President Nixon to tell him how awesome he was, and playing a starring role in a skit about ecology. Unfortunately, I missed the parts where we learned that Girl Scouts were to look purty and bake us some damned cookies, unmasculine non-scouts needed their butts kicked and to hand over their lunch money, and rules were for suckers not for warriors.
Today's earworm:
We're the boys from Camp Kookamonga
Our mothers sent us here for to study nature's ways
We learned to make sparks by rubbing sticks together
But if we catch the girls then we'll set the woods ablaze...
Got my draft notice in 1970. During introduction at basic training, we were asked if anybody had been in the Boy Scouts. Those individuals were made squad leaders and were fast tracked to promotions. They already had "training" in field craft, marching, uniforms, etc.
OT
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4c12eb227864716de00a3df4ba51ae9cd07ae59aa8b0afa40393a27fef9702bf.png?w=800&h=833
Yeah, but they got the bad guy out. Our bad guy is still in.