The REALLY disturbing part of this whole business is that we (or at least I!) had to read it HERE, rather than finding it within the pages of the New York Times or my local newspaper. One way or another, Pressler's people have managed to keep his story mostly under wraps and away from the public eye. Probably a good thing for them, too, considering the falling numbers of general church attendance.
Ordinarily, I'd say, "Hello, CBS News 60 Minutes? Boy, do I have a story for YOU!" Sadly, with Bari Weiss running (and RUINING) the show there, I doubt they'd consider this one.
I grew up in KY - home to a bunch of SBC churches. They weren’t any more moral in the 60s and 70s. It is just the same-old-same-old. The patriarchal white male good ol’ boys network.
“I’ve dedicated my life to the conservative principles on which our country was founded, and I know Ted Cruz has done the same thing and that he will stand firm.”
I’m sorry, what!?!
Conservative principles the country was founded on? If the country was founded on conservative principles, we would still be a colony of Britain. The very thought of building a new country is progressive. Never mind the ideas the founders baked into the constitution, a government for the people and by the people rather than the monarchies the rest of the world operated under. The progressive principles of democracy and freedom changed the world, they didn’t conserve anything.
You might argue that the puritans were conservative, but they didn’t get to “found” the country. And while they’ve had far too much influence on how the country was governed, you know being the people of the country, they didn’t get much of the conservative control they wanted in the country’s foundation.
The principles of the USA are not the least bit conservative, even though conservatives want to rule as though they were.
Remember when America was all about radical rebellion and fierce independence instead of servile pandering to a bunch of fat, rich old fools who have made themselves the monarchy in all but name?
“The conservative principles on which this country was founded?” The US Constitution and the Declaration of Independence are two of the most liberal political documents ever created. By the standards of their time, they were down right radical. I’m sick to death of the people who convince themselves their religiosity entitles them to rule the country. The evangelicals crave power, and few groups would be more ill-equipped to handle it.
And all anyone has to do to prove that to themselves is to actually READ the Constitution. Problem is: these days, they don't want anyone to read ANYTHING. That would tend to spoil their plans just a bit.
Article VI specifically bans religious tests for holding public office, and it predates the Bill of Rights. This speaks to how the founders felt about the issue. The conservatives of 1776 were the people who never stopped being loyal the the King of England.
Just saw a post on fb that asked if anyone thought the founders actually thought they were talking about Hindus or Muslims. The response was, here’s some writings from the founders themselves that says, yes they absolutely thought it included Hindus and Muslims. (Might have been a Friendly Atheist post)
Bro, you and I both know that completely doing away with religion would be like actually GETTING to Absolute Zero degrees, Kelvin. You can get VERY DAMNED CLOSE, but the rules of the road say that getting there is an impossibility. Same thing with religion. There are people out there who will hang onto their irrational beliefs, regardless of the facts, and they won't be argued out of those beliefs.
That being the case, at least one viable path may be to render religion irrelevant and/or impotent. Neither one of those goals is trivial or easy, but they may be more reachable. Regardless, that process is a LONG SLOG, and we may have only started down that path.
For the sake of humanity and for getting it shut of bad behaviors that hold it back, I think the effort is worth it.
I’m still amazed how these cuckoos were allowed to overthrow our government with relatively little pushback, how all these white evangelicals were elected and how armies of voters were created to fight a made up “war” of good and evil.
Tenacious they are! Too many sane folks have been asleep at the wheel. Too comfortable.
No useful purpose? Catholics get to munch on little dried squares of Jesus’s transubstantiated flesh and sip his 20-proof blood. That’s not nothing, it's ritualized divine snack time.
Good call. I LIKE Famous Grouse! Smooth, and WAY more drinkable than a LOT of other blends! Still, I can't stay away from the single-malts and their sometime-amazing personalities!
I've had both shapes in different churches. maybe different priests cast different versions of the Crackers-to-flesh spell, to get different shaped Jesus chunks.
It was while I was a kid… so maybe they were lying and not giving us Jesus flesh at all but Paul kibbles? Wouldn't want a clumsy kid to drop the Host on the ground.
Yep. It's all about power and controlling the masses. This power led to a corrupt and criminal organization called the SBC. We're seeing the same thing play out with the current administration in D.C.
I’ve been saying that for years. Religion gives those that want control over people & especially women are the only ones that gain anything, including wealth. All these religions are worth Billions & pay ZERO taxes & do NOTHING to help the poor, the homeless or those afflicted with addiction or illnesses! I don’t see churches opening up homeless shelters or hospitals or anything unless they benefit.
It’s brainwashing on a grand scale!
All mankind needs is to be; kind, compassionate, caring, generous, & loving! How hard is that?
I think it's called: "cherry-picking." 😝 Also compartmentalization and looking the other way at verses and scriptures that are inconvenient to one's world view.
Judging by the staggering number of Christian tribes, what the Bible says isn't exactly clear, and I have to think the genuine word of God would be incontrovertible.
Grotesque isn’t a strong enough word for this. Even a gargoyle — a moist grotesque — isn’t gross enough.
The real failure is what happens when a religious institution convinces itself that protecting its own authority is the same thing as protecting God, truth, or morality.
In olden times, they might have called that hubris. Blasphemy, even: placing yourself in the position of God’s avatar until God effectively becomes yours. In the words of a book: “God created man in his own image and, man, flattered, returned the compliment.”
Once this merge happens, victims become threats to the church, threats to the church become threats to the leadership, and threats to the leadership become threats to God Himself.
Dissent becomes heresy. Accountability becomes “an attack on the mission.”
From the institution’s perspective, this is not a scandal. It’s the system defending itself as designed.
Sometime back, a YouTube producer who goes by "Prplfox" stated:
"Christianity alters your identity to insure the survival of ITSELF."
An impressive truism from a young man who was finding his way out of irrational belief and one which states the true intentions of modern-day religion.
Paul wrote about how religion should not be a cloak for evil. And, with this man, we have a perfect example of that. Religious organizations like other organizations have an imperative to protect themselves and to continue their existence even at harm to their own members and outsiders. Perhaps, it's long overdue for the SBC to end its own existence.
We need to look closer into Ted Cruz and Mike Johnson, since their connections to this man and the mechanism of the SBC are so closely tied. If Cruz was just a follower of the sect, that would be one thing, but his lifelong, close, personal attachment to Pressler is something else entirely. He either knew about Pressler or he was also enabled in the same crimes as Pressler. Mike Johnson might be more peripheral to Pressler, but being the choice to represent him at the school is pretty telling and with Johnson’s own words, he’s got some serious issues with sex. Having to rely on his son to monitor his sexual behavior online is a giant red flag for anyone with two brain cells and eyes.
I think that a seriously DEEP DIVE into Pressler and ALL his political relationships needs to be done. That's why I made the reference to a 60 Minutes investigation earlier (and how I wish they were in an internal position to actually DO that). Maybe PBS Frontline would take the job.
In any case, this load of dirty laundry needs some FRESH AIR exposure. People need to know about this, and while we're at it, ditto The Heritage Foundation. This crap has gone on entirely too long.
And how many time do they rant and railed against homosexuality, lesbianism, adultery, and other sexual sins they happily engaged in behind closed doors? Sheesh!
These men are not afraid of lawsuits from victims. That’s not why they treat the victims so poorly when they come forward. These men are telling the world that their power, their religion, their manhood, is license to stick their penis anywhere they choose. They don’t care. They do not give a flying fuck that what they do is wrong, that they hurt people, that they or the church might be sued, or that there are consequences to what they do. They don’t care. This is their reward for being men.
They are also telling the world that women are not people. Children are not people. Their whole identity is based on their own identity of being people while everyone else is not. Cis-het, white, Christian, male superiority is life to them.
Honestly, they know damned well that if they want to avoid bad publicity, they could throw the perpetrators under the bus from the start and they will look like heroes. If they took the first accusation seriously and did something , anything, to nip the abuse in the bud there wouldn’t be so many victims when everything does come to light, it always comes to light. They would look like the moral leaders they claim they are. But they do not do this. They have never done this. I think, and I have plenty of reasons to think this way, they don’t because they have setup this system, religious and others, just so that they can abuse women and children in this way.
I am fed up. I’m fed up that men walk around loudly proclaiming that they are horny and someone has to do something about it for them. That they’re entitled to being relieved of their horniness by other people. That they cannot have any sort of relationship that isn’t bathed in sexual entitlement. Not every pump of blood to the penis is grounds for an orgasm. Everything I have ever had to navigate as a woman has been based on male sexual confusion. That women deserve rape if they wear clothes that are revealing (and revealing or modest clothing changes on a whim to excuse men from their criminal behavior) or for being alone in public, or for smiling or not smiling. Even men aren’t immune to men’s criminality. Remember the Seinfeld episode where George got a massage from a male masseuse? He confused some random twitch for a possibility he was aroused by the massage, because every time it moves men think it’s time for intercourse. Enough already! Get control of yourselves you fucking freaks.
What you are talking about are tropes and realities which have probably been with us since Homo erectus, never mind the current edition. There are so many men out there who are convinced that they are 𝗘𝗡𝗧𝗜𝗧𝗟𝗘𝗗 - yup, in all caps and bold - and convincing them that such ain't the case may be less a job than it is a career. The social inertia associated with this phenomenon is massive, and the advent of Trump and his idiot-children have only made this situation worse.
Can the corner be turned? I'd like to think that I've turned it, and I suspect the rest of those of us with penises here may qualify. But like trying to throttle religion into a more controllable state, it ain't a sprint; it's a marathon ... and probably an Iron Man!
It's a tale as old as time: use people's fear of ostracization as a coercive measure to get them to endow you with power. Power, power, power. It's always about power.
The REALLY disturbing part of this whole business is that we (or at least I!) had to read it HERE, rather than finding it within the pages of the New York Times or my local newspaper. One way or another, Pressler's people have managed to keep his story mostly under wraps and away from the public eye. Probably a good thing for them, too, considering the falling numbers of general church attendance.
Ordinarily, I'd say, "Hello, CBS News 60 Minutes? Boy, do I have a story for YOU!" Sadly, with Bari Weiss running (and RUINING) the show there, I doubt they'd consider this one.
I grew up in KY - home to a bunch of SBC churches. They weren’t any more moral in the 60s and 70s. It is just the same-old-same-old. The patriarchal white male good ol’ boys network.
Try reading Texas Monthly or the Houston Chronicle or the San Antonio Express-News
Noted and thanks! 👍
“I’ve dedicated my life to the conservative principles on which our country was founded, and I know Ted Cruz has done the same thing and that he will stand firm.”
I’m sorry, what!?!
Conservative principles the country was founded on? If the country was founded on conservative principles, we would still be a colony of Britain. The very thought of building a new country is progressive. Never mind the ideas the founders baked into the constitution, a government for the people and by the people rather than the monarchies the rest of the world operated under. The progressive principles of democracy and freedom changed the world, they didn’t conserve anything.
You might argue that the puritans were conservative, but they didn’t get to “found” the country. And while they’ve had far too much influence on how the country was governed, you know being the people of the country, they didn’t get much of the conservative control they wanted in the country’s foundation.
The principles of the USA are not the least bit conservative, even though conservatives want to rule as though they were.
Remember when America was all about radical rebellion and fierce independence instead of servile pandering to a bunch of fat, rich old fools who have made themselves the monarchy in all but name?
“The conservative principles on which this country was founded?” The US Constitution and the Declaration of Independence are two of the most liberal political documents ever created. By the standards of their time, they were down right radical. I’m sick to death of the people who convince themselves their religiosity entitles them to rule the country. The evangelicals crave power, and few groups would be more ill-equipped to handle it.
The 7 key founders made damn sure that religion played no part in governance.
And all anyone has to do to prove that to themselves is to actually READ the Constitution. Problem is: these days, they don't want anyone to read ANYTHING. That would tend to spoil their plans just a bit.
Article VI specifically bans religious tests for holding public office, and it predates the Bill of Rights. This speaks to how the founders felt about the issue. The conservatives of 1776 were the people who never stopped being loyal the the King of England.
Ba-da-bing!
Just saw a post on fb that asked if anyone thought the founders actually thought they were talking about Hindus or Muslims. The response was, here’s some writings from the founders themselves that says, yes they absolutely thought it included Hindus and Muslims. (Might have been a Friendly Atheist post)
Jefferson owned a copy of the Koran.
This has to be emphasized more, if Americans wish to still keep their 'imperfect union'.
The christofascists believe they have an inherent right to rule. And they are willing to impose Gilead to guarantee their position of power.
They try THAT shit and they'll find that they have a whole bunch of June Osbornes on their case!
It's long past time to do away with religion. It serves no useful purpose and never has.
Just the opposite: It has had a detrimental effect on humankind since the institution was invented. A plague upon it.
Bro, you and I both know that completely doing away with religion would be like actually GETTING to Absolute Zero degrees, Kelvin. You can get VERY DAMNED CLOSE, but the rules of the road say that getting there is an impossibility. Same thing with religion. There are people out there who will hang onto their irrational beliefs, regardless of the facts, and they won't be argued out of those beliefs.
That being the case, at least one viable path may be to render religion irrelevant and/or impotent. Neither one of those goals is trivial or easy, but they may be more reachable. Regardless, that process is a LONG SLOG, and we may have only started down that path.
For the sake of humanity and for getting it shut of bad behaviors that hold it back, I think the effort is worth it.
I’m still amazed how these cuckoos were allowed to overthrow our government with relatively little pushback, how all these white evangelicals were elected and how armies of voters were created to fight a made up “war” of good and evil.
Tenacious they are! Too many sane folks have been asleep at the wheel. Too comfortable.
Do we have any anti-THEISM bumper stickers yet that clearly make the point … stickers that can be read and understood by all the poor dumb bastards ?
… 🦘🦘🦘
Bumper stickers are part of getting the word out, but only part. We got a LOT of work ahead of us.
No useful purpose? Catholics get to munch on little dried squares of Jesus’s transubstantiated flesh and sip his 20-proof blood. That’s not nothing, it's ritualized divine snack time.
The blood-drinking makes them vampires.
20-proof? Meh. That's for Caspar Milquetoast! Getcha some 12-year-old Glenlivet or MacAllan or Aberlour or Glendronnach or...! 😉
Nah ! Simple FAMOUS GROUSE is plenty good enough … not WH Ballroom juice.
… 🦘🦘🦘
Good call. I LIKE Famous Grouse! Smooth, and WAY more drinkable than a LOT of other blends! Still, I can't stay away from the single-malts and their sometime-amazing personalities!
Speaking of good stuff, I had a small taste of 40 year old tawny port last night after dinner.
Woof! Never had anything that old, but I used to enjoy the Warre 1969 porto, which was pretty good.
I am sure Maltnothops would agree. Unfortunately, in many Protestant t churches the blood is grape juice.
[chuckle] I occasionally wonder if they allow that stuff to cross over into Mogen David territory! 🤣🤣🤣
In support of our Canadian friends I have lately been sipping 12 year old Canadian Club. Smooth and tasty.
Hey, if it works for you, RUN WITH IT!
I don't know if I've ever had squares, they're almost always circles with an occasional deformed wedge.
I've had both shapes in different churches. maybe different priests cast different versions of the Crackers-to-flesh spell, to get different shaped Jesus chunks.
It was while I was a kid… so maybe they were lying and not giving us Jesus flesh at all but Paul kibbles? Wouldn't want a clumsy kid to drop the Host on the ground.
In my childhood church, it was crumbled-up saltines. Not kidding.
Never had a Christ crumble. Is it better than a Buddha turnover cake?
😁😁😁
Never had Buddha turnover cake. Sounds yummy!
Yep. It's all about power and controlling the masses. This power led to a corrupt and criminal organization called the SBC. We're seeing the same thing play out with the current administration in D.C.
I’ve been saying that for years. Religion gives those that want control over people & especially women are the only ones that gain anything, including wealth. All these religions are worth Billions & pay ZERO taxes & do NOTHING to help the poor, the homeless or those afflicted with addiction or illnesses! I don’t see churches opening up homeless shelters or hospitals or anything unless they benefit.
It’s brainwashing on a grand scale!
All mankind needs is to be; kind, compassionate, caring, generous, & loving! How hard is that?
𝑃𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑠𝑙𝑒𝑟—𝑜𝑟 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝐽𝑢𝑑𝑔𝑒, 𝑎𝑠 𝑚𝑎𝑛𝑦 𝑘𝑛𝑒𝑤 ℎ𝑖𝑚—𝑝𝑙𝑎𝑦𝑒𝑑 𝑎 𝑐𝑟𝑢𝑐𝑖𝑎𝑙 𝑟𝑜𝑙𝑒 𝑖𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑚𝑎𝑟𝑟𝑖𝑎𝑔𝑒 𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑅𝑒𝑝𝑢𝑏𝑙𝑖𝑐𝑎𝑛 𝑃𝑎𝑟𝑡𝑦 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑤ℎ𝑖𝑡𝑒 𝑒𝑣𝑎𝑛𝑔𝑒𝑙𝑖𝑐𝑎𝑙 𝑣𝑜𝑡𝑒𝑟𝑠 𝑤ℎ𝑜 𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑠𝑢𝑠𝑡𝑎𝑖𝑛 𝑖𝑡𝑠 𝑝𝑜𝑤𝑒𝑟. 𝐹𝑜𝑟 𝑛𝑒𝑎𝑟𝑙𝑦 𝑓𝑜𝑢𝑟 𝑑𝑒𝑐𝑎𝑑𝑒𝑠 ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑒𝑟𝑣𝑒𝑑 𝑎𝑠 𝑎 𝑞𝑢𝑖𝑒𝑡 𝐺𝑂𝑃 𝑝𝑜𝑤𝑒𝑟 𝑏𝑟𝑜𝑘𝑒𝑟, ℎ𝑒𝑙𝑝𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑒𝑙𝑒𝑣𝑎𝑡𝑒 𝑔𝑒𝑛𝑒𝑟𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑠𝑒𝑟𝑣𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑣𝑒 𝐶ℎ𝑟𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑎𝑛𝑠 𝑡𝑜 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑇𝑒𝑥𝑎𝑠 𝐿𝑒𝑔𝑖𝑠𝑙𝑎𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑒, 𝐶𝑎𝑝𝑖𝑡𝑜𝑙 𝐻𝑖𝑙𝑙, 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑊ℎ𝑖𝑡𝑒 𝐻𝑜𝑢𝑠𝑒.
I guess we now know which denomination expects to be the official Church of the United States if they can finish bulldozing the Wall of Separation.
Racist, misogynist, sexual predators and pedophiles to be exact
There can be little doubt but that Pressler is one of the major kingmakers of the Republican party.
The only wall that can protect us from an official religion is the wall that denominations have among each other.
"the notion that Christian scripture is the perfect, literal word of God"
In all of its internal contradictions and ridiculous denial of reality. How the everloving fuck can people believe that shit?
I think it's called: "cherry-picking." 😝 Also compartmentalization and looking the other way at verses and scriptures that are inconvenient to one's world view.
Judging by the staggering number of Christian tribes, what the Bible says isn't exactly clear, and I have to think the genuine word of God would be incontrovertible.
The louder they shout GOD! at us, the louder we shout AMORAL HYPOCRITICAL CRIMINALS! back at them.
Grotesque isn’t a strong enough word for this. Even a gargoyle — a moist grotesque — isn’t gross enough.
The real failure is what happens when a religious institution convinces itself that protecting its own authority is the same thing as protecting God, truth, or morality.
In olden times, they might have called that hubris. Blasphemy, even: placing yourself in the position of God’s avatar until God effectively becomes yours. In the words of a book: “God created man in his own image and, man, flattered, returned the compliment.”
Once this merge happens, victims become threats to the church, threats to the church become threats to the leadership, and threats to the leadership become threats to God Himself.
Dissent becomes heresy. Accountability becomes “an attack on the mission.”
From the institution’s perspective, this is not a scandal. It’s the system defending itself as designed.
Sometime back, a YouTube producer who goes by "Prplfox" stated:
"Christianity alters your identity to insure the survival of ITSELF."
An impressive truism from a young man who was finding his way out of irrational belief and one which states the true intentions of modern-day religion.
The Clarence Darrow character utters that line about god in the play, "Inherit the Wind"
Paul wrote about how religion should not be a cloak for evil. And, with this man, we have a perfect example of that. Religious organizations like other organizations have an imperative to protect themselves and to continue their existence even at harm to their own members and outsiders. Perhaps, it's long overdue for the SBC to end its own existence.
First.
We need to look closer into Ted Cruz and Mike Johnson, since their connections to this man and the mechanism of the SBC are so closely tied. If Cruz was just a follower of the sect, that would be one thing, but his lifelong, close, personal attachment to Pressler is something else entirely. He either knew about Pressler or he was also enabled in the same crimes as Pressler. Mike Johnson might be more peripheral to Pressler, but being the choice to represent him at the school is pretty telling and with Johnson’s own words, he’s got some serious issues with sex. Having to rely on his son to monitor his sexual behavior online is a giant red flag for anyone with two brain cells and eyes.
I think that a seriously DEEP DIVE into Pressler and ALL his political relationships needs to be done. That's why I made the reference to a 60 Minutes investigation earlier (and how I wish they were in an internal position to actually DO that). Maybe PBS Frontline would take the job.
In any case, this load of dirty laundry needs some FRESH AIR exposure. People need to know about this, and while we're at it, ditto The Heritage Foundation. This crap has gone on entirely too long.
My gaydar picks up serious vibrations from Mike Johnson.
Can you imagine how he'd react if a guy made a pass at him?
𝗠𝗢𝗠𝗠𝗬‼‼‼
Agreed!
And how many time do they rant and railed against homosexuality, lesbianism, adultery, and other sexual sins they happily engaged in behind closed doors? Sheesh!
The phrase 'over compensating closet case' comes to mind.
Never mind: "Every accusation is a confession!" Digging into that could make for a career!
Projection large enough to cover the moon.
OOOOO, WIDE screen! 📺
Biblical literalism for thee, but not for me.
“Do what I say God says, not what I say God allows Me to do.”
Another pack of pedophile traitors that need dealing with in the harshest terms possible.
Yes, that is the term we use.
Not really OT:
‘Greater Than’ effort revamps anti-LGBTQ+ junk science against marriage equality
https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hatewatch/greater-than-revamps-anti-lgbtq-against-marriage-equality/
What a load of horse manure! "Greater Than" winds up looking much DUMBER THAN!
Rights for us but not for you. Being against equality is a tuff PR sell.
But, but, Jesus "gets us". /s
Second.
What the actual fuck, people!?!?
These men are not afraid of lawsuits from victims. That’s not why they treat the victims so poorly when they come forward. These men are telling the world that their power, their religion, their manhood, is license to stick their penis anywhere they choose. They don’t care. They do not give a flying fuck that what they do is wrong, that they hurt people, that they or the church might be sued, or that there are consequences to what they do. They don’t care. This is their reward for being men.
They are also telling the world that women are not people. Children are not people. Their whole identity is based on their own identity of being people while everyone else is not. Cis-het, white, Christian, male superiority is life to them.
Honestly, they know damned well that if they want to avoid bad publicity, they could throw the perpetrators under the bus from the start and they will look like heroes. If they took the first accusation seriously and did something , anything, to nip the abuse in the bud there wouldn’t be so many victims when everything does come to light, it always comes to light. They would look like the moral leaders they claim they are. But they do not do this. They have never done this. I think, and I have plenty of reasons to think this way, they don’t because they have setup this system, religious and others, just so that they can abuse women and children in this way.
I am fed up. I’m fed up that men walk around loudly proclaiming that they are horny and someone has to do something about it for them. That they’re entitled to being relieved of their horniness by other people. That they cannot have any sort of relationship that isn’t bathed in sexual entitlement. Not every pump of blood to the penis is grounds for an orgasm. Everything I have ever had to navigate as a woman has been based on male sexual confusion. That women deserve rape if they wear clothes that are revealing (and revealing or modest clothing changes on a whim to excuse men from their criminal behavior) or for being alone in public, or for smiling or not smiling. Even men aren’t immune to men’s criminality. Remember the Seinfeld episode where George got a massage from a male masseuse? He confused some random twitch for a possibility he was aroused by the massage, because every time it moves men think it’s time for intercourse. Enough already! Get control of yourselves you fucking freaks.
Rant over.
What you are talking about are tropes and realities which have probably been with us since Homo erectus, never mind the current edition. There are so many men out there who are convinced that they are 𝗘𝗡𝗧𝗜𝗧𝗟𝗘𝗗 - yup, in all caps and bold - and convincing them that such ain't the case may be less a job than it is a career. The social inertia associated with this phenomenon is massive, and the advent of Trump and his idiot-children have only made this situation worse.
Can the corner be turned? I'd like to think that I've turned it, and I suspect the rest of those of us with penises here may qualify. But like trying to throttle religion into a more controllable state, it ain't a sprint; it's a marathon ... and probably an Iron Man!
𝑁𝑜𝑡 𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑦 𝑝𝑢𝑚𝑝 𝑜𝑓 𝑏𝑙𝑜𝑜𝑑 𝑡𝑜 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑒𝑛𝑖𝑠 𝑖𝑠 𝑔𝑟𝑜𝑢𝑛𝑑𝑠 𝑓𝑜𝑟 𝑎𝑛 𝑜𝑟𝑔𝑎𝑠𝑚.
You are misunderstanding the male mind. Even lack of pumps of blood to the penis is grounds for an orgasm. ;)
I’ve been told that, at 14, linoleum is arousing.
Paul Pressler definitely went straight to heaven to be with Jesus. After all, he did Jesus's work.
And if you believe THAT one, I got this REAL SWELL BRIDGE in Brooklyn I'd love to sell you!
It's a tale as old as time: use people's fear of ostracization as a coercive measure to get them to endow you with power. Power, power, power. It's always about power.
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Amen!