Christianity in general. By the third century, Roman and Greek writers were reporting that christians were idiots (paraphrasing here; they used a word that translates something like "simpletons" or "fools" or "country cousins") who would believe any garbage that was handed to them, and were easy to fleece, as long as it was all wrapped up in a nice christian package. In short, there's a sucker born every minute. So the 21st century variant isn't all that surprising.
Rather than taking financial advice from people with a religious axe to grind, they should listen to Warren Buffett. Learn how to identify value, then invest for the long haul. Buffett became one of the wealthiest people on the planet with that rather simple strategy, and he's an agnostic.
GRIFTERS: "This isn't about personal wealth; it's about God."
I certainly seems that Life Surge's personal wealth is what it's all about. If it isn't about $$$? Let them offer all they have to the Christian public without charge for any of it.
"But He loves you. He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money! He's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can't handle money!"
Ooooo! Kingdom seminars with Kingdom impact which amount to little more than King-DUMB (with a "B!"). What I don't hear in all of this is any talk of serious positive outcome or benefit from all this foofaraw. What I DO see are people being jawboned for MONEY in the Name of the Lord™. And because God and Jesus and Faith are their buzzwords, it's all supposed to be A-OK.
But they can't sell you the Brooklyn Bridge. I have that on an option! 😉
“One attendee even told Mother Jones that a Life Surge counselor blamed her hesitation about buying the courses on the devil.
This is what makes Christian grifting so effective. Why bother proving that your program works if you can just convince people that God wants them to say yes?”
It’s not that god wants them to say yes, it’s that if they say no, they will literally be demonized.
“The devil is keeping you from investing, you don’t want to be associated with the devil do you?” That is more powerful than saying god wants you to do this. There’s more room for excuses not to invest. “Well, if god really wanted me to invest, I would have the money I need to invest.” Or, “I know this is for god, but there’s not enough for me to live and do this, god would want me to take care of myself first then when I have more money and stability, I can do this.”
But if the devil is making you do something, or not do it, then it’s an immediate concern to do as god wants so as to avoid association with evil.
“Those who attend then have the chance to enroll in “SurgeU””
SurgeU, looks an awful lot like PragerU. At least SurgeU has actual classes, but both are propaganda machines bent on conning people out of their money. PragerU is more dangerous only because Prager has the ear of powerful people in our government. But neither one is trustworthy. The NameU monikers should be a giant red flag.
I had the same thought but it's the same with most religion. Be a shame if you or your nice family ended up in hell. For a small fee I can provide protection.
Christian Post routinely runs articles about actors and athletes who are “outspoken Christians”. I’ve never heard of these “celebrities” and they are always being persecuted for being “outspoken”.
“ Again, the shocking element of this is how the company is using Christianity—and celebrity faces of Christianity—to make this profitable for the people in charge. ”
The shocking thing is actually that anyone is shocked by the shocking grifting going on. I’m on my first cuppa—brand new coffee maker!!!!— and I’m not shocked. It’s a variation of the pigeon drop con game, the equivalent of Wimpy telling you that if you buy him a hamburger now, he will gladly pay you back on Tuesday. You give me money, and I will make you rich because I am just a hell of a nice guy. In this case, you can just ignore what Jesus had to say about treasures on earth. What did he know? He didn’t have any money!
Back when I had my business, and the internet was just taking off, I would get grifters doing a different version of the the pigeon drop. I would get a variation of this by email: “we’re getting married in September. WE’re having a fabulous wedding. We love your work. We’re hiring you over the phone. We’ll send a messenger with a check for Umtpy-ump dollars. Lotsa zeroes. Just give the messenger $300 for some perfectly plausible reason.”
It sounded like such a deal! My colleagues were wondering, though. To me it was obvious, but then, being formerly in law enforcement, I understood the criminal mind. Very helpful when dealing with bridezilla. “The point of being in business is that people give YOU money for YOUR services, not YOU give THEM.” None of us were caught, but we all knew people who had been.
In the case of Life’sUrge*—greed, more money!!!!— they are simply using Christian gullibility. “christians are good people. I”m helping Jeeeeeeebus. I”ll be rich.” Of course, Jesus said…no…do I have to tell you?…about rich men, sewing implements, and desert quadrupeds? My kingdom is not of this world, but for the low, low price of your life savings, your kingdom will be.
“It just doesn’t seem like something a good Christian motivational speaker or pastor would want to be a part of.” I guess no one ever noticed that His Popiness lives in a castle and wears Gucci slippers while good Catholics toil in the fields to make it happen. Kenneth Copeland needs another jet.
Can you say “TIME SHARE SALESMAN”?
I wish I could say “I care about this.” But I can’t, except from atop Mt. Gigglesworth. In fact, I couldn’t possibly not care any less than I already don’t. CINOs hornswoggling CINOs for a slice of CINO heaven. Just remember: the streets of heaven are paved with gold, and you, too, can get a slice of heaven.
*The name is a dead giveaway— emphasis on the give.
We bought one of these 25 years ago. Best coffee maker we've ever owned. All the parts are replaceable. I've replaced the filter basket and the drip bar and one carafe in 25 years. Never makes a bad cuppa coffee.
I will hopefully save people a lot of time and money.
In the American system, there are four ways to get rich. I will list them in order of likelihood of success:
1. Be born into wealth.
2. Do crime.
3. Win a lottery
4. Get an education, choose the right job, work hard, and be extremely, extremely lucky.
Please wire 10,000 dollars to my account. Thank you for attending.
1 & 2 can go hand in hand.
#2 is generally how families get wealthy to begin with.
"Behind every great fortune, there is a crime". - Balzac
As i struggled as a stock broker, I realized there were really only two ways to be successful: marry it or bury it.
“And”.
It’s “and”, not “or”.
Please provide me with your bank account number, routing number, and PIN, and I will send you $10000 GLORY!
There's a sucker baptized every minute.
There’s a baptist suckered every minute.
I have long suspected that the people susceptible to Evangelical Christianity are really easy to hypnotize.
Christianity in general. By the third century, Roman and Greek writers were reporting that christians were idiots (paraphrasing here; they used a word that translates something like "simpletons" or "fools" or "country cousins") who would believe any garbage that was handed to them, and were easy to fleece, as long as it was all wrapped up in a nice christian package. In short, there's a sucker born every minute. So the 21st century variant isn't all that surprising.
There have been a lotta lotta minutes since the third century.
Not surprising, just sad that they never learn.
You are getting sleepy. Sleepy. Sleepy.
An invisible man in the sky wants to talk to you. He’s your best friend.
Or just plain bamboozle. 😝
Dot’s de richest kind of boozle. BAM!
𝑆𝑢𝑟𝑔𝑒𝑈 𝑑𝑜𝑒𝑠𝑛’𝑡 𝑐𝑜𝑚𝑒 𝑐ℎ𝑒𝑎𝑝: 𝑃𝑎𝑐𝑘𝑎𝑔𝑒𝑠 𝑟𝑎𝑛𝑔𝑒 𝑓𝑟𝑜𝑚 𝑎𝑏𝑜𝑢𝑡 $10,000 𝑡𝑜 $40,000. 𝑆ℎ𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑤𝑎𝑛𝑡 𝑡𝑜 𝑒𝑛𝑟𝑜𝑙𝑙 𝑏𝑢𝑡 𝑙𝑎𝑐𝑘 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑐𝑎𝑠ℎ, 𝐿𝑖𝑓𝑒 𝑆𝑢𝑟𝑔𝑒 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑛𝑒𝑐𝑡𝑠 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑎 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑟𝑑-𝑝𝑎𝑟𝑡𝑦 𝑙𝑒𝑛𝑑𝑒𝑟.
It wouldn't surprise me if the third-party lender charges exorbitant interest rates and gives Life Surge a cut of the interest charges.
I wouldn't be surprised if the third-party lender of choice is owned by the same people as Life Surge.
Of course they would!
Rather than taking financial advice from people with a religious axe to grind, they should listen to Warren Buffett. Learn how to identify value, then invest for the long haul. Buffett became one of the wealthiest people on the planet with that rather simple strategy, and he's an agnostic.
GRIFTERS: "This isn't about personal wealth; it's about God."
I certainly seems that Life Surge's personal wealth is what it's all about. If it isn't about $$$? Let them offer all they have to the Christian public without charge for any of it.
God needs money:
"But He loves you. He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money! He's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can't handle money!"
"But He loves you" George Carlin was right! 😆😂
"This isn't about (your) personal wealth, it's about giving to God. Trust me bro, I'll make sure he gets it."
So it's about something with no demonstrable existence! Terrific! [facepalm!]
Ooooo! Kingdom seminars with Kingdom impact which amount to little more than King-DUMB (with a "B!"). What I don't hear in all of this is any talk of serious positive outcome or benefit from all this foofaraw. What I DO see are people being jawboned for MONEY in the Name of the Lord™. And because God and Jesus and Faith are their buzzwords, it's all supposed to be A-OK.
But they can't sell you the Brooklyn Bridge. I have that on an option! 😉
“One attendee even told Mother Jones that a Life Surge counselor blamed her hesitation about buying the courses on the devil.
This is what makes Christian grifting so effective. Why bother proving that your program works if you can just convince people that God wants them to say yes?”
It’s not that god wants them to say yes, it’s that if they say no, they will literally be demonized.
“The devil is keeping you from investing, you don’t want to be associated with the devil do you?” That is more powerful than saying god wants you to do this. There’s more room for excuses not to invest. “Well, if god really wanted me to invest, I would have the money I need to invest.” Or, “I know this is for god, but there’s not enough for me to live and do this, god would want me to take care of myself first then when I have more money and stability, I can do this.”
But if the devil is making you do something, or not do it, then it’s an immediate concern to do as god wants so as to avoid association with evil.
That's why Christians are such cunning apex predators. They know their audience's weak points and zoom in on them like harpies.
They're called sheep because they get fleeced.
And also the other F.
“Those who attend then have the chance to enroll in “SurgeU””
SurgeU, looks an awful lot like PragerU. At least SurgeU has actual classes, but both are propaganda machines bent on conning people out of their money. PragerU is more dangerous only because Prager has the ear of powerful people in our government. But neither one is trustworthy. The NameU monikers should be a giant red flag.
Just like babydonnyU.
When your 'christian investment' promo can't withstand objective reporting, it might be a scam. Eh, Jeff Foxworthy?
Jeff Foxworthy being there is a disappointment. At least there's Trae Crowder.
Trae could smell this swindle a mile away!
Sounds suspiciously like Scientology, doesn’t it?
I had the same thought but it's the same with most religion. Be a shame if you or your nice family ended up in hell. For a small fee I can provide protection.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQnik7XL9FrSjQXSw2kwxveTxKMOdXTLp6dJzH0t7ahqlosMXfWsI_mcqA&s=10
LMAO!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hy4z_9OnNo8
I read all the names, where are the celebrities?
Christian Post routinely runs articles about actors and athletes who are “outspoken Christians”. I’ve never heard of these “celebrities” and they are always being persecuted for being “outspoken”.
On the D list.
Life Surge? More like 𝐋𝐢𝐟𝐞 𝐒𝐰𝐢𝐧𝐝𝐥𝐞 than Life Surge.
Someone needs to do a Life Purge on these hucksters.
It can’t rain all the time.
Never been to my city, have you? ;)
(I kid. New York, Boston and Atlanta all get more rain than we do)
🎵 New York
London
Paris
Munich
Everybody talk about
Pop music
🎵
Oh yeah? Tell that to Noah...
OT:
https://ibb.co/qFCv7hhZ
LITERALLY!
Ba-dum-tiss!
Stop axin' me for money!
Ouch!
“ Again, the shocking element of this is how the company is using Christianity—and celebrity faces of Christianity—to make this profitable for the people in charge. ”
The shocking thing is actually that anyone is shocked by the shocking grifting going on. I’m on my first cuppa—brand new coffee maker!!!!— and I’m not shocked. It’s a variation of the pigeon drop con game, the equivalent of Wimpy telling you that if you buy him a hamburger now, he will gladly pay you back on Tuesday. You give me money, and I will make you rich because I am just a hell of a nice guy. In this case, you can just ignore what Jesus had to say about treasures on earth. What did he know? He didn’t have any money!
Back when I had my business, and the internet was just taking off, I would get grifters doing a different version of the the pigeon drop. I would get a variation of this by email: “we’re getting married in September. WE’re having a fabulous wedding. We love your work. We’re hiring you over the phone. We’ll send a messenger with a check for Umtpy-ump dollars. Lotsa zeroes. Just give the messenger $300 for some perfectly plausible reason.”
It sounded like such a deal! My colleagues were wondering, though. To me it was obvious, but then, being formerly in law enforcement, I understood the criminal mind. Very helpful when dealing with bridezilla. “The point of being in business is that people give YOU money for YOUR services, not YOU give THEM.” None of us were caught, but we all knew people who had been.
In the case of Life’sUrge*—greed, more money!!!!— they are simply using Christian gullibility. “christians are good people. I”m helping Jeeeeeeebus. I”ll be rich.” Of course, Jesus said…no…do I have to tell you?…about rich men, sewing implements, and desert quadrupeds? My kingdom is not of this world, but for the low, low price of your life savings, your kingdom will be.
“It just doesn’t seem like something a good Christian motivational speaker or pastor would want to be a part of.” I guess no one ever noticed that His Popiness lives in a castle and wears Gucci slippers while good Catholics toil in the fields to make it happen. Kenneth Copeland needs another jet.
Can you say “TIME SHARE SALESMAN”?
I wish I could say “I care about this.” But I can’t, except from atop Mt. Gigglesworth. In fact, I couldn’t possibly not care any less than I already don’t. CINOs hornswoggling CINOs for a slice of CINO heaven. Just remember: the streets of heaven are paved with gold, and you, too, can get a slice of heaven.
*The name is a dead giveaway— emphasis on the give.
What kind of coffee maker did you get?
MR. Coffee, non programmable. We never did, we couldn’t figure it out even if we wanted to, and the circuitry is what went bad in our last one.
We bought one of these 25 years ago. Best coffee maker we've ever owned. All the parts are replaceable. I've replaced the filter basket and the drip bar and one carafe in 25 years. Never makes a bad cuppa coffee.
https://us.moccamaster.com/collections/glass-carafe-brewers
A bit expensive for a coffee maker. What type of filter does it use?
"company is using Christianity" Agreed, and so are most politicians in the United States. Elections to win money to be made!
In God We Trust? 🤪 😧
All others pay cash.