David Grisham waited until the post office closed, reversed the presidential order, and called Parton a “fake Christian.” Then he told me why he did it.
Dolly Parton was one of a kind, while crackpot preachers are a dime a dozen. She will be remembered long after the world has completely forgotten David Grisham. Evangelical preachers have a pronounced tendency to absurdly over value their contributions to the world.
Some people apparently cannot deal with seeing someone else getting recognition for a life not just of entertainment but of service and generosity which has uplifted people, not just in the US, but around the world. That's what Dolly Parton was about, whether Grisham wants to acknowledge that or not. For what Hemant reports here, this guy has a habit of pissing in other people's corn flakes, supposedly to proselytize, but more likely to draw attention to himself.
David Grisham is an asshat. He deserves to be ignored, though he probably won't be.
Dolly was a national treasure. She was loved by people from all parts of the political spectrum. And while she never publicly stated her actual political positions, her actions spoke volumes about where she likely was.
David Grisham is a national nuisance. I agree that he deserves to be ignored, but the next best thing is to surround him with hecklers for every stunt he pulls and ratio the fuck out of his social media posts.
It also bothers me that it seems folks on the right want to “claim” Dolly precisely because she wasn’t directly public or outspoken about her political views. It’s that southern gal hospitality thing. Smiling on the outside, fire raging within. They just wish more women nowadays would keep their opinions to themselves and stay out of politics. Quiet piggy 🐷
That was the thing about Dolly: she was utterly non-polarized and non-polarizing. I suspect that's the one quality she had that damn few people actually fully understand.
What is really telling is how upset he is that Dolly respected LGBTQ and other people who may be different from her. She also respected people who are on the right. She respected everyone. She was a better person than me and clearly a better person than this guy.
I won't be participating in either today's or tomorrow's FA articles. Going to be very busy for two days and I won't even have time to lurk. Hope to be back Saturday. Or Sunday. Or Monday/Labor Day (assuming Hemant doesn't take the entire long weekend off).
Grisham's another in a tediously long line of 'Pick Me!!!' right-wing christian attention hoes. Bob Hope, Rosa Parks, Nelson Mandela, Neil Armstrong, and a long list of other national and international treasures have been honored by having flags flown at half-staff following their deaths. When this guy kicks it, he'll be lucky if his own family remembers him.
I hope that doesn't include my "Jesus was an unarmed Black man" shirt.
BTW, OMS, these are some of the other shirts I wear to piss off Christian(sic) MAGA:
"There are NO white people in the Bible"
"God gave us free will. Don't let man take it away."
"I believe in the separation of church and hate"
"Resistance is my worship - Faithful America"
"Have Mercy"
"Diversity Equity & Inclusion are Christian values" (DEI)
"Jesus was a Refugee"
"God first created wind and solar (windmill image)"
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"Wisdom
Openness
Kindness
Empathy" (Spelling WOKE down the column)
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"Bible Quiz
Jesus said, "I was a stranger and you....
A. called me names
B. locked me up
C. ziptied my kids
d. welcomed me
Matthew 25:35" (Nobody MAGA has read this many many words in their whole LIFE!)
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"I am fearfully and Wonderfully Made - Fully Beloved - Psalm 139:14" (all in rainbow colors)
"Trans Lives are SACRED"
"GOD loves ALL races"
"Bless your heart" (which every southerner knows is the GRAVEST of insults.)
If I have to go down, at least I won't go "silently". (Actually, I'm mostly just glad to still be alive to express my truth so regularly. When I stop being a "silly, doddering fool" and instead become a danger to them.....?)
That's why I think of almost all of you as basically being family, now that I have no close family left after Mom's death last year.
It matters very much to me what you caring folks think, and I want to hear more of it. There will be days I need time off to think, (and because my autistic tendencies cause me to often doubt myself in social context) but it's never likely to be because I disagree in any way.
Honestly, I'd rather that never happened, and I"m glad the likelihood of it happening is vanishingly small. All such an occurrence would do at this point is muddy waters that are already impenetrable from the enormous amount of BS that has been spewed from clueless supposed representatives of a being that may never have existed in the first place.
Things are currently screwed up enough as they are.
The two overt racists were honored but Trump. The rest were civil rights icons. I would not be surprised if Trump only honored Dolly because if he didn't, hisrooted. country music loving base would have rioted.
Jesus Christ "never served this country in any official capacity" either, you moron (and he wasn't a founding Father of America at all, much less the "ultimate" one).
I would've helped you lower the flag back to half staff. I am so FED UP with those Christians who think that they have the right to do as they please while giving the finger to everyone else.
Dolly Parton was one of a kind, while crackpot preachers are a dime a dozen. She will be remembered long after the world has completely forgotten David Grisham. Evangelical preachers have a pronounced tendency to absurdly over value their contributions to the world.
Lawyer here: What thus guy did was a tresspass. He had no legal right to enter upon another's rral property to alter their personal property.
It's a misdemeanoer.
"𝐼 𝑑𝑜𝑛’𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑘 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑖𝑡’𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑈𝑛𝑖𝑡𝑒𝑑 𝑆𝑡𝑎𝑡𝑒𝑠 𝑔𝑜𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑛𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡’𝑠 𝑏𝑢𝑠𝑖𝑛𝑒𝑠𝑠 𝑡𝑜 𝑏𝑒 ℎ𝑜𝑛𝑜𝑟𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑠𝑜𝑚𝑒 𝑐𝑜𝑢𝑛𝑡𝑟𝑦 𝑤𝑒𝑠𝑡𝑒𝑟𝑛 𝑠𝑡𝑎𝑟."
Billy Graham got a state funeral, including lying on state in the Capitol Rotunda.
𝐼𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑠𝑎𝑚𝑒 𝑝𝑜𝑠𝑡, ℎ𝑜𝑤𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟, ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑎𝑖𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑙𝑎𝑔𝑠 𝑠ℎ𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑 𝑏𝑒 𝑙𝑜𝑤𝑒𝑟𝑒𝑑 𝑡𝑜 ℎ𝑎𝑙𝑓-𝑠𝑡𝑎𝑓𝑓 𝑡𝑜 ℎ𝑜𝑛𝑜𝑟 𝐽𝑒𝑠𝑢𝑠 𝐶ℎ𝑟𝑖𝑠𝑡… 𝑤ℎ𝑜, 𝑖𝑓 𝑚𝑦 𝑚𝑒𝑚𝑜𝑟𝑦 𝑠𝑒𝑟𝑣𝑒𝑠 𝑚𝑒 𝑐𝑜𝑟𝑟𝑒𝑐𝑡𝑙𝑦, 𝑎𝑙𝑠𝑜 “𝑛𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑠𝑒𝑟𝑣𝑒𝑑 𝑖𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑈𝑛𝑖𝑡𝑒𝑑 𝑆𝑡𝑎𝑡𝑒𝑠 𝑔𝑜𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑛𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝑖𝑛 𝑎𝑛𝑦 𝑐𝑎𝑝𝑎𝑐𝑖𝑡𝑦.”
That would be so blatant a violation of the Establishment Clause that not even the anti Establishment Clause members of SCOTUS would ok that.
Grisham is delusional.
Grisham thinks he has a right to suggest / dictate who gets recognized and who doesn't. He's a tin-plated fool with delusions of significance.
He deserves no attention at all, other than perhaps being told to STFU.
"... delusions of significance."
Excellent evaluation.
Thanks!
The attention he's getting isn't the attention he wants. He wants followers and converts. He's getting pointing and laughing.
Any attention is attention.
Parton contributed far more good to the world than Billy Graham ever did.
“𝐼’𝑚 𝑎𝑛 𝑒𝑞𝑢𝑎𝑙 𝑜𝑝𝑝𝑜𝑟𝑡𝑢𝑛𝑖𝑡𝑦 𝑏𝑖𝑔𝑜𝑡,” ℎ𝑒 𝑗𝑜𝑘𝑒𝑑.
You said it, Davey, I didn't.
Some people apparently cannot deal with seeing someone else getting recognition for a life not just of entertainment but of service and generosity which has uplifted people, not just in the US, but around the world. That's what Dolly Parton was about, whether Grisham wants to acknowledge that or not. For what Hemant reports here, this guy has a habit of pissing in other people's corn flakes, supposedly to proselytize, but more likely to draw attention to himself.
David Grisham is an asshat. He deserves to be ignored, though he probably won't be.
Dolly was a national treasure. She was loved by people from all parts of the political spectrum. And while she never publicly stated her actual political positions, her actions spoke volumes about where she likely was.
David Grisham is a national nuisance. I agree that he deserves to be ignored, but the next best thing is to surround him with hecklers for every stunt he pulls and ratio the fuck out of his social media posts.
It also bothers me that it seems folks on the right want to “claim” Dolly precisely because she wasn’t directly public or outspoken about her political views. It’s that southern gal hospitality thing. Smiling on the outside, fire raging within. They just wish more women nowadays would keep their opinions to themselves and stay out of politics. Quiet piggy 🐷
That was the thing about Dolly: she was utterly non-polarized and non-polarizing. I suspect that's the one quality she had that damn few people actually fully understand.
"... the one quality she had that damn few people actually fully understand."
But that many are mightily jealous of.
Certainly no flags will be lowered for him
It might not be illegal, but it sure is petty ;)
I suspect that "petty" is Grisham's middle name.
If it is illegal, then arrest Mike Johnson who did the same with the flag honoring President Jimmy Carter.
Shhhh, nobody tell Trump it's legal. We want it to stay legal until the day he's similarly honored.
What is really telling is how upset he is that Dolly respected LGBTQ and other people who may be different from her. She also respected people who are on the right. She respected everyone. She was a better person than me and clearly a better person than this guy.
OT (Oy, such an early OT)
I won't be participating in either today's or tomorrow's FA articles. Going to be very busy for two days and I won't even have time to lurk. Hope to be back Saturday. Or Sunday. Or Monday/Labor Day (assuming Hemant doesn't take the entire long weekend off).
Until later...
"and he simply said he had no idea the flags were lowered in his [Kirk] honor"
How convenient.
I didn't know that either but it doesn't surprise me.
I'm sure it was all over your "more conservative sites".
Grisham was lying.
Grisham's another in a tediously long line of 'Pick Me!!!' right-wing christian attention hoes. Bob Hope, Rosa Parks, Nelson Mandela, Neil Armstrong, and a long list of other national and international treasures have been honored by having flags flown at half-staff following their deaths. When this guy kicks it, he'll be lucky if his own family remembers him.
I wish Jesus would really come back and do something about assholes who wear his name.
I hope that doesn't include my "Jesus was an unarmed Black man" shirt.
BTW, OMS, these are some of the other shirts I wear to piss off Christian(sic) MAGA:
"There are NO white people in the Bible"
"God gave us free will. Don't let man take it away."
"I believe in the separation of church and hate"
"Resistance is my worship - Faithful America"
"Have Mercy"
"Diversity Equity & Inclusion are Christian values" (DEI)
"Jesus was a Refugee"
"God first created wind and solar (windmill image)"
----------------------
"Wisdom
Openness
Kindness
Empathy" (Spelling WOKE down the column)
-----------------------
"Bible Quiz
Jesus said, "I was a stranger and you....
A. called me names
B. locked me up
C. ziptied my kids
d. welcomed me
Matthew 25:35" (Nobody MAGA has read this many many words in their whole LIFE!)
--------------------------
"I am fearfully and Wonderfully Made - Fully Beloved - Psalm 139:14" (all in rainbow colors)
"Trans Lives are SACRED"
"GOD loves ALL races"
"Bless your heart" (which every southerner knows is the GRAVEST of insults.)
If I have to go down, at least I won't go "silently". (Actually, I'm mostly just glad to still be alive to express my truth so regularly. When I stop being a "silly, doddering fool" and instead become a danger to them.....?)
You think. You see. You CARE. And you take action.
You are therefore dangerous to the current regime. Of course, so are the rest of the regulars here.
Thank you, Truthsh00ter,
That's why I think of almost all of you as basically being family, now that I have no close family left after Mom's death last year.
It matters very much to me what you caring folks think, and I want to hear more of it. There will be days I need time off to think, (and because my autistic tendencies cause me to often doubt myself in social context) but it's never likely to be because I disagree in any way.
Thank you all for being my family now.
Honestly, I'd rather that never happened, and I"m glad the likelihood of it happening is vanishingly small. All such an occurrence would do at this point is muddy waters that are already impenetrable from the enormous amount of BS that has been spewed from clueless supposed representatives of a being that may never have existed in the first place.
Things are currently screwed up enough as they are.
He's why people become atheists.
This David Grisham?
https://americanloons.blogspot.com/2013/09/725-david-grisham.html
Sure looks like him. A longtime loon.
He should take this matter up with Dear Leader. I forgot, he’s too much of a coward for that.
The list of people who never served in government yet who had flags flown at half staff for them includes:
Martin Luther King Jr. – 1968 (L Johnson)
Roy Wilkins – 1981 (J Carter)
Bob Hope – 2003 (GW Bush)
Rosa Parks – 2005 (GW Bush)
Coretta Scott King – 2006 (GW Bush)
Dorothy Height – 2010 (B Obama)
Billy Graham – 2018 (D Trump)
Charlie Kirk – 2025 (D Trump)
Dolly Parton - 2026 (D Trump)
Note it's mostly a Republican thing to do this (6 of 9 orders given by GOP Presidents)
This list AI generated, so it could be incorrect.
The two overt racists were honored but Trump. The rest were civil rights icons. I would not be surprised if Trump only honored Dolly because if he didn't, hisrooted. country music loving base would have rioted.
Jesus Christ "never served this country in any official capacity" either, you moron (and he wasn't a founding Father of America at all, much less the "ultimate" one).
Jesus personally annointed the current president.
𝑇ℎ𝑒 𝑣𝑖𝑑𝑒𝑜 𝑤𝑎𝑠 𝑝𝑜𝑠𝑡𝑒𝑑 𝑜𝑛𝑙𝑖𝑛𝑒 𝑜𝑛 𝑆𝑢𝑛𝑑𝑎𝑦.
"𝐼’𝑚 𝑗𝑢𝑠𝑡 𝑔𝑜𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑡𝑜 𝑙𝑒𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑠 𝑠𝑖𝑡 ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑒 𝑓𝑜𝑟 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑤𝑒𝑒𝑘𝑒𝑛𝑑 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑙𝑒𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑚 𝑐𝑜𝑚𝑒 𝑏𝑎𝑐𝑘 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑓𝑖𝑛𝑑 𝑖𝑡 𝑀𝑜𝑛𝑑𝑎𝑦 𝑚𝑜𝑟𝑛𝑖𝑛𝑔"
I wonder if someone saw the video Sunday and immediately went to the Post Office to lower the flag again? I hope so.
I would've helped you lower the flag back to half staff. I am so FED UP with those Christians who think that they have the right to do as they please while giving the finger to everyone else.