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oraxx's avatar

Dolly Parton was one of a kind, while crackpot preachers are a dime a dozen. She will be remembered long after the world has completely forgotten David Grisham. Evangelical preachers have a pronounced tendency to absurdly over value their contributions to the world.

Suzanne Dallimore's avatar

Lawyer here: What thus guy did was a tresspass. He had no legal right to enter upon another's rral property to alter their personal property.

It's a misdemeanoer.

XJC's avatar

I'll text Donald Trump now and let him know.

Straw's avatar

I am not sure that the yellow guy can read. Maybe he can, but is he able to understand what he read? I think not.

Len's avatar

Sadly it'll just feed his persecution complex.

Maltnothops's avatar

As I read the OP, I had the sneaking suspicion that fucking around with federal property is unlikely to be within the law.

Tom Smith's avatar

I think that their legacy is going to be like that of Rush Limbaugh.

Nothing.

Rush spent a quarter century or more spewing hatred, bigotry, and lies. He's dead now, and nobody even mentions him, certainly not his "sophisticated" worldview. (Of course, that was like one of those promo pamphlets you see in hotels -- Visit Jellymind Caves, the darkest pit in the contiguous 48!) These yutzes are the same, and, not having contributed anything of value to anyone, they will swiftly be forgotten.

As opposed to Dolly Parton, who wrote and performed many fine songs, spread a message of kindness and tolerance, paid for her employees' education, and gave books to millions of children. Grisham is a mean-spirited bigot. Period.

oraxx's avatar

Limbaugh was a bar-room loud mouth with a radio program. He faded almost immediately after his death and that speaks to just how little he contributed to the world.

The Epistler's avatar

As it happens, when I found out Milo Yappledappledingdong had been deported, you know what my reaction was? "Wait, what? Who was that again?" I had in all seriousness forgotten all about that stupid asshole. Because when he was in the public eye he had absolutely nothing of any consequence to say and achieved nothing other than getting people annoyed at him.

Ethereal Fairy's avatar

He defended sex with young boys in his past statements, which made the republicans remember who he was, and stiffled his career, then he tried the born-again con.

The Epistler's avatar

Thank goodness for once that didn't work.

XJC's avatar

Performative Christianity: It'$ Money.... literally.

Joe King's avatar

"𝐼 𝑑𝑜𝑛’𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑘 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑖𝑡’𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑈𝑛𝑖𝑡𝑒𝑑 𝑆𝑡𝑎𝑡𝑒𝑠 𝑔𝑜𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑛𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡’𝑠 𝑏𝑢𝑠𝑖𝑛𝑒𝑠𝑠 𝑡𝑜 𝑏𝑒 ℎ𝑜𝑛𝑜𝑟𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑠𝑜𝑚𝑒 𝑐𝑜𝑢𝑛𝑡𝑟𝑦 𝑤𝑒𝑠𝑡𝑒𝑟𝑛 𝑠𝑡𝑎𝑟."

Billy Graham got a state funeral, including lying on state in the Capitol Rotunda.

𝐼𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑠𝑎𝑚𝑒 𝑝𝑜𝑠𝑡, ℎ𝑜𝑤𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟, ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑎𝑖𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑙𝑎𝑔𝑠 𝑠ℎ𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑 𝑏𝑒 𝑙𝑜𝑤𝑒𝑟𝑒𝑑 𝑡𝑜 ℎ𝑎𝑙𝑓-𝑠𝑡𝑎𝑓𝑓 𝑡𝑜 ℎ𝑜𝑛𝑜𝑟 𝐽𝑒𝑠𝑢𝑠 𝐶ℎ𝑟𝑖𝑠𝑡… 𝑤ℎ𝑜, 𝑖𝑓 𝑚𝑦 𝑚𝑒𝑚𝑜𝑟𝑦 𝑠𝑒𝑟𝑣𝑒𝑠 𝑚𝑒 𝑐𝑜𝑟𝑟𝑒𝑐𝑡𝑙𝑦, 𝑎𝑙𝑠𝑜 “𝑛𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑠𝑒𝑟𝑣𝑒𝑑 𝑖𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑈𝑛𝑖𝑡𝑒𝑑 𝑆𝑡𝑎𝑡𝑒𝑠 𝑔𝑜𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑛𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝑖𝑛 𝑎𝑛𝑦 𝑐𝑎𝑝𝑎𝑐𝑖𝑡𝑦.”

That would be so blatant a violation of the Establishment Clause that not even the anti Establishment Clause members of SCOTUS would ok that.

Grisham is delusional.

Troublesh00ter's avatar

Grisham thinks he has a right to suggest / dictate who gets recognized and who doesn't. He's a tin-plated fool with delusions of significance.

He deserves no attention at all, other than perhaps being told to STFU.

Len's avatar

"... delusions of significance."

Excellent evaluation.

Joe King's avatar

The attention he's getting isn't the attention he wants. He wants followers and converts. He's getting pointing and laughing.

Len's avatar

Any attention is attention.

Len Koz's avatar

"There is no such thing as bad publicity".

oraxx's avatar

Parton contributed far more good to the world than Billy Graham ever did.

Charles Newman's avatar

Agreed, yes, Billy Graham and family pure bat shit crazy.

"Reverend Billy Graham was famously honored in Washington, D.C., when he lay in honor in the U.S. Capitol Rotunda on February 28, 2018, and later when a 7-foot bronze statue of him was unveiled in the Capitol's National Statuary Hall in May 2024."

Disgusting, embarrassing and sad. 😧

God Bless Murica?

Straw's avatar

Æsj, I really hope I never meet him either.

Richard S. Russell's avatar

I would've been OK with lowering the flags to half-staff the week after Jesus died, but by Sunday he would've spoiled the gesture. 😉

Charles Newman's avatar

The United States of Texas. 🤨

Troublesh00ter's avatar

“𝐼’𝑚 𝑎𝑛 𝑒𝑞𝑢𝑎𝑙 𝑜𝑝𝑝𝑜𝑟𝑡𝑢𝑛𝑖𝑡𝑦 𝑏𝑖𝑔𝑜𝑡,” ℎ𝑒 𝑗𝑜𝑘𝑒𝑑.

You said it, Davey, I didn't.

Some people apparently cannot deal with seeing someone else getting recognition for a life not just of entertainment but of service and generosity which has uplifted people, not just in the US, but around the world. That's what Dolly Parton was about, whether Grisham wants to acknowledge that or not. For what Hemant reports here, this guy has a habit of pissing in other people's corn flakes, supposedly to proselytize, but more likely to draw attention to himself.

David Grisham is an asshat. He deserves to be ignored, though he probably won't be.

Joe King's avatar

Dolly was a national treasure. She was loved by people from all parts of the political spectrum. And while she never publicly stated her actual political positions, her actions spoke volumes about where she likely was.

David Grisham is a national nuisance. I agree that he deserves to be ignored, but the next best thing is to surround him with hecklers for every stunt he pulls and ratio the fuck out of his social media posts.

Linda's avatar

It also bothers me that it seems folks on the right want to “claim” Dolly precisely because she wasn’t directly public or outspoken about her political views. It’s that southern gal hospitality thing. Smiling on the outside, fire raging within. They just wish more women nowadays would keep their opinions to themselves and stay out of politics. Quiet piggy 🐷

Troublesh00ter's avatar

That was the thing about Dolly: she was utterly non-polarized and non-polarizing. I suspect that's the one quality she had that damn few people actually fully understand.

Len's avatar

"... the one quality she had that damn few people actually fully understand."

But that many are mightily jealous of.

Linda's avatar

I went through a cultural shock when I briefly lived in the south (GA) and all the gals I waitressed with at a restaurant were being overly nice with me. I thought, you just met me? I didn’t understand. At least at the surface level. Come to find out they all were not exactly That nice ;)

Len Koz's avatar

I so wish one woman reporter would reply to him with "FU, boor."

Bensnewlogin's avatar

That’s not fair. Maybe he just likes cornflakes with piss on them especially if he can beat up a little kid and take them away from him.

Troublesh00ter's avatar

If he likes 'em, HE can eat 'em!

Tinker's avatar

What is really telling is how upset he is that Dolly respected LGBTQ and other people who may be different from her. She also respected people who are on the right. She respected everyone. She was a better person than me and clearly a better person than this guy.

Brianna Amore's avatar

Modern-day Christianity is an anti-LGBTQ+ hate group. And this guy proves it.

Religion *is* Politics's avatar

Certainly no flags will be lowered for him

Bensnewlogin's avatar

I may be willing to lower my zipper if I ever have an opportunity to piss on his grave. In fact, I’m almost certain I will lower my zipper.

avis piscivorus's avatar

He will not be buried at Arlington, but on his private domain at Mar-a-Lago, where his family will demand an entrance fee for visitors.

Len Koz's avatar

Do you think they would notice the catapult I use to fling the flaming bags of poo onto his grave?

Straw's avatar

Of course not. You are one of the regular people, just like me, and they just don't notice that kind of people.

Bensnewlogin's avatar

I’m guess I’m going to save my $.50 then for something worthwhile.

Len's avatar
Sep 3Edited

$.50? Surely you mean $50,- for dear leader.

ETA:

Plus $25,- for the popcorn.

E.A. Blair's avatar

In the future, a guy in Seeattle responded to an ad for a fundraiser to undo all the harm Trump caused during his presidency. For $20.00, he could buy a ticket to pee on Trump's grave. So he called the number, ordered the ticket, and the sales person told him, "Okay, that'll be $20.00 for the ticket, a $2.50 processing fee and $434.00 for air fare to Saint Louis."

"Saint Louis? I thought Trump was buried in Florida."

"He was. But the end of the line is in Saint Louis."

NancyPhillips's avatar

Don't feel bad - , while you wait, you can pee on Rush Limbaugh's grave in the City of St. Louis (Bellefontaine Cemetery, where the Great and Good of St. Louis and eastern Missouri are buried).

Jane in NC's avatar

Grisham's another in a tediously long line of 'Pick Me!!!' right-wing christian attention hoes. Bob Hope, Rosa Parks, Nelson Mandela, Neil Armstrong, and a long list of other national and international treasures have been honored by having flags flown at half-staff following their deaths. When this guy kicks it, he'll be lucky if his own family remembers him.

NOGODZ20's avatar

OT (Oy, such an early OT)

I won't be participating in either today's or tomorrow's FA articles. Going to be very busy for two days and I won't even have time to lurk. Hope to be back Saturday. Or Sunday. Or Monday/Labor Day (assuming Hemant doesn't take the entire long weekend off).

Until later...

Bensnewlogin's avatar

Have fun or enjoy your root canal whatever it is you’re doing.

Die Anyway's avatar

Well, dang. I wake up each morning hoping to see a certain other name on the list of dearly departed.

Die Anyway's avatar

I long ago realized that if prayer actually worked, the world would be a different place.

"Wishin' and hopin' and thinkin' and prayin' " won't get you anything.

Maltnothops's avatar

I’ve discovered that several of my friends have each, independently of one another, put a special bottle aside for the good news of his demise. One has champagne, another has a rare bourbon, etc. Made me feel like an underprepared slacker!

Lynn Veit's avatar

Fucking A...how long have I waited for the Big Beautiful Obituary, only to find out time after time that another good person who did stuff that mattered has been taken away from us.

Fuck this timeline indeed.

Linda's avatar

It might not be illegal, but it sure is petty ;)

avis piscivorus's avatar

If it is illegal, then arrest Mike Johnson who did the same with the flag honoring President Jimmy Carter.

Len Koz's avatar

Mike Johnson is gross in so many ways.

Linda's avatar

He’s in my top 5 most despicable in this administration. Along with Russell Vought and of course Stephen Miller!

Troublesh00ter's avatar

I suspect that "petty" is Grisham's middle name.

ericc's avatar

Shhhh, nobody tell Trump it's legal. We want it to stay legal until the day he's similarly honored.

larry parker's avatar

"and he simply said he had no idea the flags were lowered in his [Kirk] honor"

How convenient.

David Graf's avatar

I didn't know that either but it doesn't surprise me.

larry parker's avatar

I'm sure it was all over your "more conservative sites".

Grisham was lying.

Len Koz's avatar

So is someone else. It was all over the news then.

Old Man Shadow's avatar

I wish Jesus would really come back and do something about assholes who wear his name.

foofaraw & Chiquita(ARF!)'s avatar

I hope that doesn't include my "Jesus was an unarmed Black man" shirt.

BTW, OMS, these are some of the other shirts I wear to piss off Christian(sic) MAGA:

"There are NO white people in the Bible"

"God gave us free will. Don't let man take it away."

"I believe in the separation of church and hate"

"Resistance is my worship - Faithful America"

"Have Mercy"

"Diversity Equity & Inclusion are Christian values" (DEI)

"Jesus was a Refugee"

"God first created wind and solar (windmill image)"

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"Wisdom

Openness

Kindness

Empathy" (Spelling WOKE down the column)

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"Bible Quiz

Jesus said, "I was a stranger and you....

A. called me names

B. locked me up

C. ziptied my kids

d. welcomed me

Matthew 25:35" (Nobody MAGA has read this many many words in their whole LIFE!)

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"I am fearfully and Wonderfully Made - Fully Beloved - Psalm 139:14" (all in rainbow colors)

"Trans Lives are SACRED"

"GOD loves ALL races"

"Bless your heart" (which every southerner knows is the GRAVEST of insults.)

If I have to go down, at least I won't go "silently". (Actually, I'm mostly just glad to still be alive to express my truth so regularly. When I stop being a "silly, doddering fool" and instead become a danger to them.....?)

Troublesh00ter's avatar

You think. You see. You CARE. And you take action.

You are therefore dangerous to the current regime. Of course, so are the rest of the regulars here.

foofaraw & Chiquita(ARF!)'s avatar

Thank you, Truthsh00ter,

That's why I think of almost all of you as basically being family, now that I have no close family left after Mom's death last year.

It matters very much to me what you caring folks think, and I want to hear more of it. There will be days I need time off to think, (and because my autistic tendencies cause me to often doubt myself in social context) but it's never likely to be because I disagree in any way.

Thank you all for being my family now.

Troublesh00ter's avatar

Our joy and our privilege, foofaraw. No BS ... FACT.

E.A. Blair's avatar

I used to have a bumper sticker that read, "Jesus, Please Save Me From The People Who Worship You." Someone tore ir off my car when I was parked across the street from a church.

foofaraw & Chiquita(ARF!)'s avatar

E.A.,

I hate that you lost such a great bumper sticker, but that does make a MOST EXCELLENT story!

Charles Newman's avatar

"Psalm 139:14" Got to love Bible verses. Proof its full of misnomers and fairy tales. 😆

foofaraw & Chiquita(ARF!)'s avatar

And that gives us Dems, progressives and libs a tool that they lack.

The only books they seem to even know the titles of are the Holy Bible and Das Kampf.

MAGA isn't even literate enough to KNOW any book titles to even, theoretically, attack us for.

Troublesh00ter's avatar

Honestly, I'd rather that never happened, and I"m glad the likelihood of it happening is vanishingly small. All such an occurrence would do at this point is muddy waters that are already impenetrable from the enormous amount of BS that has been spewed from clueless supposed representatives of a being that may never have existed in the first place.

Things are currently screwed up enough as they are.

Guerillasurgeon's avatar

"Fake Christian"? Here we go again – the no true Scotsman defence. I didn't know Charlie Kirk or Dolly Parton, but it seems to me – just on a casual glance mind – that she was far more of a Christian then Kirk. Or Grisham for that matter.

XJC's avatar

IMO Kirk and Grisham are real Christians. Dolly was a do-gooder, not a do-goder.

XJC's avatar

PS Not a fan of her music, but still respect what she did with her career and her success.

sands's avatar

LOL! Define real.

Guerillasurgeon's avatar

He wants the flag lowered for Jesus? Jesus died 2000 years ago, so he's a bit late.

Lynn Veit's avatar

And Jesus was Middle Eastern, not Midwestern.

Psittacus Ebrius's avatar

*If I were president, I would lower the flag to half staff every Good Friday to honor the death of the most important man in the history of the world and the ultimate founding Father of this country...*

Sorry Pastor Grisham - trump has already bestowed that honor upon himself.

RegularJoe's avatar

And that man is both mythological and not even a bit American, so.......

Lynn Veit's avatar

And they already worship Trump anyway. You're just a Johnny-come-lately, Preacher-man.

Maltnothops's avatar

Before I retired, every Friday was good. Now I don’t care what day of the week it is.

Boreal's avatar

How long before Grisham is outed as a pedo or for other physical abuse?

Septuagenarian Contrarian's avatar

Promotes himself as a military man but does not know the difference between “half-mast” and half-staff. He is “half-mast” alright... more like half-assed.

Zorginipsoundsor's avatar

Methinks his problem is that he hasn't been at more than ⅛ mast in quite a while.

Maltnothops's avatar

Maybe a half-mast drowning is in the offing for him.

RegularJoe's avatar

To be fair, it depends on his branch of service. I use both terms, but I know that mast is Navy and staff is for land-based critters. 🫡