This is just more political theater on the part of the religious-right. It's a win-win for them because they will never pay a price for it. They either get to force their religion into the public square owned by everyone regardless of religious affiliation, or they get to play the poor, persecuted victims of the godless left. It's actually that second outcome that keeps the money rolling in.
Here we go again. It would seem as though Tarrant County hasn't learned anything from Alabama's experience with the 10Cs or Judge's Roy Moore's repeated failures to maintain a copy of those commandments in a public space. This action also reflects considerable insensitivity with those of Tarrant County WHO ARE NOT CHRISTIAN ... not that those promoting this installation care much.
Were they to have to cover the inevitable fines and court costs associated with the coming legal battles, I wonder if their attitudes might change just a touch.
The fines and costs will never come out of their pockets, and they know this. Their short term goal is to consolidate power and play the victim when FFRF steps in. "Out of state atheists interfering with our local traditions" even though it was a multi-faith group of local people protesting on the day of the unveiling. The long term goal is to get it to the current SCOTUS to weaken further the wall of separation. Ultimately they want total control over everyone.
That's the real shame. If anyone wanted to stop this brand of pissing on public spaces, the individual pissers would find their bank accounts garnished for the aforementioned fines and court costs.
Why no court wants to hit them in THEIR PERSONAL WALLETS is a mystery to me.
It has to do with immunity crap. The individual bad actors are acting in their capacity sa the government, so the government is in the hook instead of the individual bad actors. There should be a rule to force the bad actors to pay when the evidence shows a reasonable person would know they weren't supposed to do what they did.
There are rules like that. There is the example of Lady Shirley Porter, who manipulated sales of council property with the aim of increasing voters for her party. She was whacked with a massive fine.
Roy Moore is a pedophile. Roy Moore was famous for a giant rock with mostly unconstitutional bullshit on it. So we must ask which people supporting this giant rock with mostly unconstitutional bullshit on it are also pedophiles.
“This action also reflects considerable insensitivity with those of Tarrant County WHO ARE NOT CHRISTIAN ... not that those promoting this installation care much.”
Oh they care, they care so much that it is the reason they put up this monument of shit. They want to show insensitivity and disdain and disrespect towards those who are living there and not Christians. They want the others to feel so uncomfortable that they leave. Go back to their dirty shithole countries and leave the good upstanding patriotic American Christians alone.
Yet every one of these shit-kicking, goober clusterfucks voted for a convicted felon who has violated almost every one of their so called commandments.
It's lost on most of those people that eight of the Commandments would be unconstitutional should anyone try writing them into law. In spite of this, they continue to spew the fiction this country was somehow founded on them.
There are 3 remarkably different sets of '10 Commandments' in the Jewish Bible/Old Testament. If you just read the one the christianists want to plaster all over the place, it reads differently depending on the translation into English you use. Many of the non-evilgelical flavors of christianity use versions other than the KJ... Isn't it getting to be time for Ol' Jeebus to pop in and tell EVERYBODY how to worship him and which bible translation to use?
So much concern for "morality" in the United States, a country where Christianity is the dominant religion yet its representives continue to fill police blotters with clergy and lay who can't keep their hands off the bodies of children. Who in Texas is concerned about THAT?
The Sheriff does not want to elevate Christianity. If he did, he would post the Beatitudes or the golden rule. I believe the Ten Commandments are also followed by Judaism and Islam. By pushing the Ten Commandments, Republicans want to elevate their control and political authoritarianism.
I am from Alabama. Guess who else had the Ten Commandments hanging in a courtroom? Judge Roy Moore, who, in his spare time, hung out at the local Shopping mall trying to pick up teen aged girls. I believe he might have been banned from the mall but became a Circuit Court and later an Alabama Supreme Court Justice where he tried to place a similar huge stone monument to the Ten Commandments.
I like what the Satanic Temple people do.... And no, they and I am a member, do not believe even in God or the devil, but because of American democracy, constitution and laws they usually go petition that if you're going to put up a huge statue of the ten commandments then there needs to be a huge statue of Balphomet/ Black Peter..... I understand this is offensive to some, but all their stumping for is fair and equal, put up a big gaudy whatever of the ten commandments of Christianity then everyone else should get a big statue including Satanists (that don't even believe in Satan). The law is the point. They successfully stumped for this in Arkansas some years back, but, the atmosphere may just be too dangerous at this point. That's unfortunate, it always looked like gleeful fun. Marching in in your best Satanist attire watching everyone clutch their pearls and stare at them like aliens when all their representing is the Constitution and laws. LOL!
What impresses me the most about The Satanic Temple are their Seven Tenets, which are what the 10 Commandments SHOULD have been and didn't come within a light-year of being. I note that members of TST have never once demanded that their tenets have exclusive space on public property, yet Christians like those mentioned in this article repeatedly think they have a right to such a display.
It rather tells you which of these beliefs enjoys self-confidence and which doesn't.
"We don't just make room for you, God, we give you Tarrant County. Father, we rededicate this land, this country. Tarant County is the Lord's.
Done with the virtue signaling, Shitsline? Take a look at the US Constitution, a document YOU swore an oath to support and defend. Tarrant County is not the possession of your phantasm in the clouds. Xtians and their deities don't own a damned thing. It's not theirs to "give."
There should be a new rule: Office holders (in the US and elsewhere) should not be allowed to use a bible (quran etc) to swear their oath of office. They should be required to use the constitution.
It's also another vain attempt at territory-marking. It wouldn't surprise me at all if someone in Tarrant County has already made contact with the Freedom From Religion Foundation, American Atheists, or Americans United, and that a civil suit will shortly be pending against the county and those who were insistent on putting this eyesore in place.
I've always been struck by how these self-proclaimed Jesus followers manage to push the Ten Commandments over the two that Jesus repeatedly said were most important: Love God fully and love your neighbor as yourself. Really, they comprise one commandment, because, as the Bible (read 1 John) affirms, it is impossible to love God and hate one's neighbor. But it is possible to comply with the letter of the Ten Commandments while breaking the Top Two. That's why Magangelicals make a show of the Ten Commandments but never talk about love for neighbor. They don't believe in that one, so they are going to write it out of their official religion through neglect.
Too bad they don’t believe the ten commandments are important enough to display permanently on their own property. I have yet to see a church lawn adorned with a giant monument to the Decalogue.
And if they want Christian law to rule over their courts, why aren’t they pushing for taking an eye from men who sexually harass women, or rape them, cut off the offending part to avoid sin as Jesus himself commanded? Wait, these rules might be used against them, they want laws that protect them but not others and restrict others but not them.
If they think the Ten Commandments were so instrumental in morality, then they would be putting them all over their own property, but they don’t. This is clearly just marking territory in an eternal pissing contest by immoral assholes trying to gain power.
That’s a good laugh for an Australian in Adelaide at 01:05 in the morning.
I hope the beer was Adelaide made COOPERS. Or, otherwise the one from USA (forget the name) … German heritage, but oldest private brewery in the USA … and it’s bloody bloody great. I found it in South Carolina and wanted to bring a pallet load home.
This is just more political theater on the part of the religious-right. It's a win-win for them because they will never pay a price for it. They either get to force their religion into the public square owned by everyone regardless of religious affiliation, or they get to play the poor, persecuted victims of the godless left. It's actually that second outcome that keeps the money rolling in.
Here we go again. It would seem as though Tarrant County hasn't learned anything from Alabama's experience with the 10Cs or Judge's Roy Moore's repeated failures to maintain a copy of those commandments in a public space. This action also reflects considerable insensitivity with those of Tarrant County WHO ARE NOT CHRISTIAN ... not that those promoting this installation care much.
Were they to have to cover the inevitable fines and court costs associated with the coming legal battles, I wonder if their attitudes might change just a touch.
The fines and costs will never come out of their pockets, and they know this. Their short term goal is to consolidate power and play the victim when FFRF steps in. "Out of state atheists interfering with our local traditions" even though it was a multi-faith group of local people protesting on the day of the unveiling. The long term goal is to get it to the current SCOTUS to weaken further the wall of separation. Ultimately they want total control over everyone.
That's the real shame. If anyone wanted to stop this brand of pissing on public spaces, the individual pissers would find their bank accounts garnished for the aforementioned fines and court costs.
Why no court wants to hit them in THEIR PERSONAL WALLETS is a mystery to me.
It has to do with immunity crap. The individual bad actors are acting in their capacity sa the government, so the government is in the hook instead of the individual bad actors. There should be a rule to force the bad actors to pay when the evidence shows a reasonable person would know they weren't supposed to do what they did.
There are rules like that. There is the example of Lady Shirley Porter, who manipulated sales of council property with the aim of increasing voters for her party. She was whacked with a massive fine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shirley_Porter
We've got laws on our statute books as regards misconduct in public office.
Roy Moore is a pedophile. Roy Moore was famous for a giant rock with mostly unconstitutional bullshit on it. So we must ask which people supporting this giant rock with mostly unconstitutional bullshit on it are also pedophiles.
“This action also reflects considerable insensitivity with those of Tarrant County WHO ARE NOT CHRISTIAN ... not that those promoting this installation care much.”
Oh they care, they care so much that it is the reason they put up this monument of shit. They want to show insensitivity and disdain and disrespect towards those who are living there and not Christians. They want the others to feel so uncomfortable that they leave. Go back to their dirty shithole countries and leave the good upstanding patriotic American Christians alone.
There was a theist who had a dog
And Jingo was his name o
J-I-N-G-Oism …
Yet every one of these shit-kicking, goober clusterfucks voted for a convicted felon who has violated almost every one of their so called commandments.
And if one subscribes to Catholicism, Trump has repeatedly violated all 7 of their "Deadly Sins."
Imagine that. Thousands of xtian churches in Texas and this monument to human ignorance can't adorn any of them.
It's lost on most of those people that eight of the Commandments would be unconstitutional should anyone try writing them into law. In spite of this, they continue to spew the fiction this country was somehow founded on them.
There are 3 remarkably different sets of '10 Commandments' in the Jewish Bible/Old Testament. If you just read the one the christianists want to plaster all over the place, it reads differently depending on the translation into English you use. Many of the non-evilgelical flavors of christianity use versions other than the KJ... Isn't it getting to be time for Ol' Jeebus to pop in and tell EVERYBODY how to worship him and which bible translation to use?
So much concern for "morality" in the United States, a country where Christianity is the dominant religion yet its representives continue to fill police blotters with clergy and lay who can't keep their hands off the bodies of children. Who in Texas is concerned about THAT?
The ones who don't have political power.
The Sheriff does not want to elevate Christianity. If he did, he would post the Beatitudes or the golden rule. I believe the Ten Commandments are also followed by Judaism and Islam. By pushing the Ten Commandments, Republicans want to elevate their control and political authoritarianism.
I am from Alabama. Guess who else had the Ten Commandments hanging in a courtroom? Judge Roy Moore, who, in his spare time, hung out at the local Shopping mall trying to pick up teen aged girls. I believe he might have been banned from the mall but became a Circuit Court and later an Alabama Supreme Court Justice where he tried to place a similar huge stone monument to the Ten Commandments.
Another great way to spend your tax dollars! Defend intentional, illegal performance art by Christian Nationalist politicians. Yay!!!
I like what the Satanic Temple people do.... And no, they and I am a member, do not believe even in God or the devil, but because of American democracy, constitution and laws they usually go petition that if you're going to put up a huge statue of the ten commandments then there needs to be a huge statue of Balphomet/ Black Peter..... I understand this is offensive to some, but all their stumping for is fair and equal, put up a big gaudy whatever of the ten commandments of Christianity then everyone else should get a big statue including Satanists (that don't even believe in Satan). The law is the point. They successfully stumped for this in Arkansas some years back, but, the atmosphere may just be too dangerous at this point. That's unfortunate, it always looked like gleeful fun. Marching in in your best Satanist attire watching everyone clutch their pearls and stare at them like aliens when all their representing is the Constitution and laws. LOL!
What impresses me the most about The Satanic Temple are their Seven Tenets, which are what the 10 Commandments SHOULD have been and didn't come within a light-year of being. I note that members of TST have never once demanded that their tenets have exclusive space on public property, yet Christians like those mentioned in this article repeatedly think they have a right to such a display.
It rather tells you which of these beliefs enjoys self-confidence and which doesn't.
Again: A Ten Commandments monument violates the 2nd Commandment in Protestant-based Christian sects.
(no such prohibition in the Catholic version of the 10C)
Of course Catholics don't recognize that bit in the 2nd Commandment. They LIVE for their iconography!
"We don't just make room for you, God, we give you Tarrant County. Father, we rededicate this land, this country. Tarant County is the Lord's.
Done with the virtue signaling, Shitsline? Take a look at the US Constitution, a document YOU swore an oath to support and defend. Tarrant County is not the possession of your phantasm in the clouds. Xtians and their deities don't own a damned thing. It's not theirs to "give."
Since God isn't going to show up to take possession, they will step in as his representatives to assert ownership of the land and the people.
There should be a new rule: Office holders (in the US and elsewhere) should not be allowed to use a bible (quran etc) to swear their oath of office. They should be required to use the constitution.
𝑁𝑜𝑛𝑒 𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑠 𝑖𝑠 𝑎𝑏𝑜𝑢𝑡 ℎ𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑜𝑟𝑦, 𝑚𝑜𝑟𝑎𝑙𝑖𝑡𝑦, 𝑜𝑟 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑙𝑎𝑤. 𝐼𝑡’𝑠 𝑎𝑏𝑜𝑢𝑡 𝑝𝑜𝑤𝑒𝑟. 𝐶ℎ𝑟𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑎𝑛𝑠 𝑖𝑛 𝑇𝑎𝑟𝑟𝑎𝑛𝑡 𝐶𝑜𝑢𝑛𝑡𝑦 𝑤𝑎𝑛𝑡 𝑡𝑜 𝑚𝑎𝑘𝑒 𝑐𝑙𝑒𝑎𝑟 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑖𝑟 𝑟𝑒𝑙𝑖𝑔𝑖𝑜𝑛—𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑜𝑛𝑙𝑦 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑖𝑟 𝑟𝑒𝑙𝑖𝑔𝑖𝑜𝑛—𝑖𝑠 𝑣𝑎𝑙𝑢𝑒𝑑 𝑖𝑛 𝑐𝑖𝑣𝑖𝑐 𝑙𝑖𝑓𝑒. 𝐼𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝐶𝑜𝑛𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑡𝑢𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑠𝑎𝑦𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡’𝑠 𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑝𝑒𝑟𝑚𝑖𝑡𝑡𝑒𝑑, 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑠𝑒 𝑝𝑒𝑜𝑝𝑙𝑒 𝑤𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑 𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑓𝑒𝑟 𝑡𝑜 𝑟𝑖𝑝 𝑢𝑝 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝐶𝑜𝑛𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑡𝑢𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛.
They think if they soak it with enough urine, it will just dissolve. Time for the mop brigade to head for Fort Worth.
It's also another vain attempt at territory-marking. It wouldn't surprise me at all if someone in Tarrant County has already made contact with the Freedom From Religion Foundation, American Atheists, or Americans United, and that a civil suit will shortly be pending against the county and those who were insistent on putting this eyesore in place.
I've always been struck by how these self-proclaimed Jesus followers manage to push the Ten Commandments over the two that Jesus repeatedly said were most important: Love God fully and love your neighbor as yourself. Really, they comprise one commandment, because, as the Bible (read 1 John) affirms, it is impossible to love God and hate one's neighbor. But it is possible to comply with the letter of the Ten Commandments while breaking the Top Two. That's why Magangelicals make a show of the Ten Commandments but never talk about love for neighbor. They don't believe in that one, so they are going to write it out of their official religion through neglect.
Another penis-shaped tombstone to celebrate their micro-penis death cult.
Ooh! Frosty! 😁😁👍👍
Too bad they don’t believe the ten commandments are important enough to display permanently on their own property. I have yet to see a church lawn adorned with a giant monument to the Decalogue.
And if they want Christian law to rule over their courts, why aren’t they pushing for taking an eye from men who sexually harass women, or rape them, cut off the offending part to avoid sin as Jesus himself commanded? Wait, these rules might be used against them, they want laws that protect them but not others and restrict others but not them.
If they think the Ten Commandments were so instrumental in morality, then they would be putting them all over their own property, but they don’t. This is clearly just marking territory in an eternal pissing contest by immoral assholes trying to gain power.
Our cathedral downtown has one.
An actual god would show up for the unveiling...................
I wonder what an actual god is.
Do they drink alcohol and eat olives I wonder ?
Apart from Hairy Mary, does the xtian god bonk other sheilas ?
If so, then where are the offspring … Texas maybe ?
The only one I've paid tribute to lately is Ninkasi, the Sumerian goddess of beer, who failed to show, leaving all the beer for me. Win/win.
Made me smile - sheilas!
Thank you.
That’s a good laugh for an Australian in Adelaide at 01:05 in the morning.
I hope the beer was Adelaide made COOPERS. Or, otherwise the one from USA (forget the name) … German heritage, but oldest private brewery in the USA … and it’s bloody bloody great. I found it in South Carolina and wanted to bring a pallet load home.
Yuengling?
That’s the one … FANTASTIC BEER.
With that name I first thought it to be Chinese … but online research told me the wonderful story.
Allagash Tripel.
Yes. He might do a bit of smiting.
We haven't had a good smiting in ages.
Again: Not the "real" Ten Commandments. And if they were, they are STILL unconstitutional.