Christian churches who pay no taxes keep sticking their hands inside the pockets of taxpayers to fuel their indoctrination.
They want to groom children? Let them pay full boat. If they don't want to do that, then let them pray for their needs like Jesus told them. Or is prayer not all it's cracked up to be?
They aren't content with the government subsidy they already get with tax exemption. (I would bet that most wouldn't get the 501(c)(3) designation if they had to do it the way everyone else has to.) Nope, they need direct kickbacks. The more they undermine public schools, the better they can control and indoctrinate, and with the voucher scheme, they can pocket a bunch of tax money, too.
There are a few thousand “Youth Ministers” who have proven over the course of many years that your statement is not only incorrect, it is a million miles away from reality.
FFRF.org regularly prints a black collar crime report. You may be shocked at how many clergy are charged with crimes & pedophilia. I am not because I’ve read new accounts for years now.
The history of the Catholic Church disproves that Christians are not pedophiles. Trump is just the Trojan Horse used by Christian Nationalists to destroy democracy in the US.
I would be curious to learn the racial demographics of these private schools. I have a feeling most would be majority white with a few token minorities.
Segregation was, after all, the reason for most of these schools existing in the first place even if the people running them won't admit that now.
We have a number of religious schools in the UK that are, shall we say, more extreme than the Church of England Schools (which the National Secular Society is working against).
Most of these schools are male only. If the schools do admit girls, then they treat them very differently to boys, teaching them more "feminine" subjects and keeping them separated from the boys.
When I was in high school, I was the only young woman in my math classes. The young men never spoke directly to me. If they had a question for me, they asked the teacher.
The UK and home country governments fund religious schools, these include Anglican (Churches of England, Scotland and Wales), Catholic, Jewish, Muslim, Sikh and Hindu schools.
However, since government funding means that the school has to follow the national curriculum and some social regulations, then a number of independent religious schools exist which allow them to follow their own curricula and avoid teaching about nasty things such as same-sex relationships. These schools tend to be of poor quality - https://www.secularism.org.uk/news/2025/11/ofsted-independent-faith-schools-more-likely-to-fail-standards
Oh, and I don't use the mealy-mouthed term "faith schools", these are religious schools.
“In an Abeka history textbook, authors write that “slaves seemed to be better investments than indentured servants,” “
Wow, that’s like saying a hot shit sandwich is better than a cold shit sandwich. Both are a form of slavery, but chattel slavery is the most horrific type of slavery. Of course the slavers would prefer the chattel slavery since there’s less of an investment. I’m sure this curriculum also heavily implies the slaves were better off as slaves than dead, too.
Only people who wish they could hold slaves find ways to excuse the antebellum south as anything other than the blight on our history it is. Makes sense that they’re Christians (not that only Christians are supportive of slavery) since the entire religion revolves around completely enslaving yourself to God, by obeying his representatives on earth, aka clergy.
Those that wish for the return of the American slavery clearly assume they will be slave owners rather than slaves. They assume the version of the 'Old South' they've been told about where well dressed wealthy land owners have happy slaves working their beautiful plantation is something more than a pipe dream. They honestly think they'll be king of their own little kingdom, and everything about their lives will improve. Gone with the Wind is a dubious romance novel, not a historical text, but these folks will never admit that.
History tells us otherwise, ergo, they sugar coat and white wash it when they can't outright deny it. Slavery in the US was cruel and horrific, and anyone with honest knowledge of the institution is well aware; there are still photographs around that show it.*
*Example: Wikipedia's article on Peter, an escaped slave. Fair warning, though, the images on the page are heartbreaking or nausea inducing, possibly both. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_(enslaved_man)
They think that their ancestor that didn’t own slaves in the antebellum south were well regarded. They were in comparison to the black slaves, but not anywhere near current standards. The poor white folks that fought to keep slavery alive were treated practically like slaves but they had their own spaces. They were sold their superiority over black people, just only to keep them in line and not rebel against their own subjugation. The only people who had a decent life were the slave owners.
We're talking about Alabama, here - a state that ranks at the bottom of all fifty states for public education. The Alabama legislature has no interest in smart kids - only winning the culture wars.
Stupid people are easier to control and manipulate! Plus, stupid people make great mindless workers/soldiers that don’t question anything they are told! The elite members of the MAGAS movement will make sure their kids are fully educated, so they (elite MAGAS) can take their place as leaders (nobility) of the rabble.
He loves the poorly educated because he's one of them. That's what happens when you're rich enough to pay your fellow students to do your homework and take your tests for you. Your education takes a nosedive.
"He loves the poorly educated because he's one of them"
It is said of our former Prime Minister, Boris Johnson (spit), "He went to the finest schools and universities in England. It's a pity he missed out on the education"
Swerve alert:
We moved up to Scotland about 5 years ago. While we were looking at houses, we were often asked why we were moving (from Manchester, England). "Did we have family up here?", to which we answered, "No". "Friends then?", to which we also answered, "No". When asked, "Why then?", my response was that I didn't want to live in a country that could elect Johnson as PM. In every house but one, we got nods of understanding.
Christian schools vary tremendously in quality. From excellent academics, to little more than Sunday school Bible classes. Giving money to private schools, religious or otherwise, takes money away from our already under-funded public schools. That students perform better in private schools is also highly deceptive. It’s easy to boast about great outcomes if you can choose who you’re going to admit, and retain.
Add to that the wealth redistribution upwards. The vouchers don't pay the whole tuition, so the ones who can afford it without the vouchers will use most of the voucher money.
That, and at the same time, more schools will pop up as the money increases. The "good" schools will have the higher tuition but some schools will just take the vouchers and run not much more than a babysitting service.
Sometimes I marvel that I escaped from this kind of hell. It was YEC through 8th grade. A very fine public high school in Iowa. Then, thanks to ACT scores thru the roof, I got into a very competitive university where I discovered that a lot of what I believed was wrong. I was too smart to keep believing lies.
I remember this also. I also remember hearing that if the southern two tiers of counties left Iowa and joined Missouri it would improve the literacy rate of both states!
I went to school in Iowa during that enlightened time and received an excellent education. FF to to my first teaching job at what was supposed to be one of the best h.s. in Iowa. I left 5 years later partly because of teacher behavior. So many of them wanted to be the students' best friends. They would walk down the hall with their arms around students' shoulders while discussing the upcoming football game and even bet money on games with students. At one point, a student was $800 in debt to a teacher. Another teacher brought donuts for her students every Friday, even tho it was against the rules, and, of course, students loved her for it. I walked by her room one Friday at the beginning of class and heard her announce, "Let's talk about what we're doing this weekend. I'll go first." Yet another promised a C grade just for showing up for class, no need to do homework or take part in discussion. One spent his free hour perusing child porn online, until he was caught and asked to leave. The school didn't press charges, so he's now teaching in another state. And forget Casual Friday; many teachers dressed like slobs all week long. And all this was just in one wing of the school (there were 3). Schools reflect society, so I can't imagine what it's like to teach today.
I attended school in three different school districts and that wasn't my experience at all. I graduated in '79, casual Friday hadn't been invented yet. : )
It wasn't my experience as a student, either, but as a teacher, I saw things from a different perspective. I still have such fond memories of some of my teachers from elem, jh (middle school hadn't been invented yet : ), and hs and can name all of them.
1. I’ve been a rock and roll rebel for years, yet I made it through college, grad school and life with no help from a god. Did the devil make me do it? 🤔
2. Math, meh. I still don’t understand the process beyond addition, subtraction, multiplication and division. I do understand fractions though! :D
I actually had a great tutor to help me get through algebra that way. Geometry was a bust, but I squeaked through. I had to take statistics in grad school and I just learned (via a tutoring lab) to recognize what the problem was asking me to do.
WHAT a shitty bargain! Religiou$ Fanatics get Public Education funds. We get underfunded Public Schools, poorly educated children & children indoctrinated into obedient little MAGAsses that will turn on their parents in an instant to gratify the GOP's Trumptatorship.
We desperately need TOTAL & PERMANENT Separation of Religion & State.
It’s incredible how much education in this country varies from state to state. There simply is no baseline or standard (bEcAuSe FrEeDoM?). A friend of mine who is a professor at NYU said she can immediately tell whether a new student is coming from somewhere like Alabama or Massachusetts. Sadly, most of these homeschooled or Christian indoctrinated students won’t even make it to college. Either the absurd cost or the fear of “woke ideology” will keep these folks right where they are in a never ending cycle of ignorance and poverty as if it were some kind of virtue.
1984 by George Orwell. I doubt the average MAGAS even read 1984, or for that manner any book. According to the MAGAS mindset reading/gaining knowledge/expertise is an elitist, socialist, woke, etc and is a sin (and to question faith in general), while ignorance and blind obedience (to the clergy and leadership) is a virtue (the more obedient and ignorant you are, that is a mark of a “TRUE BELIEVER”).
To this very day I wonder if those who "teach" that non-avian dinosaurs once lived alongside humans since they were created on the 6th Day of creation have been watching far too many sci-fi films and read far too many comic books and pulp fiction; all depicting dinosaurs, Permian reptiles, Cenozoic mammals, and cavemen living together in remote areas of the world side by side.
The difficulty of doing science is that it takes years to become good at it, and a good amount of background reading to understand it.
I mentioned last week that I went to a talk on Stac Fada, a geological formation in Assynt, on the west coast of Scotland.
One of the major themes of the talk was the dating of the formation (just under a billion years old). In addition, he covered why it is now thought that the formation is the result of a meteor impact rather than a volcanic eruption, and how it is the location of the earliest known non-marine eukaryotic microfossils.
The great beauty of the talk was how the consilience from multiple sources of evidence ties all this together.
“ they may be screwing themselves over when they get to college and realize they don’t know any of the basic material. And that’s assuming they even get into college.”
Well, that’s not being fair. At least they know the difference between the floor of a boat and an elephant. And they know what a boat or an elephant is. That’s four whole facts!
And besides, they’re not teaching education. They’re teaching stupidity. And that’s a whole accomplishment that you really have to appreciate.
DM was a rebel until her death. The last three concerts we went to were Rammstein, the Hu and Apocalyptica 😁
"But this slogan twists the virtue of love by disconnecting it from Scripture, using it to promote the LGBTQ agenda."
Love is older than the abrahamic religions. Were Khnumhotep and Niankhkhnum, who lived waaay before the Ancient Jews made their official apparition in history, promoting a gay agenda ?
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion..." Why there should be any question that such an establishment should include religious schools is beyond me. Once again, I am reminded of Benjamin Franklin's famous quote regarding good religions versus bad religions and the fact that there are damn few of the former and too many of the latter. That religious schools wish to dip into the public trough to fund themselves is a primary indicator that the quality of what they have to offer is questionable at best.
And yet people continue to allow vouchers and other mechanisms to fund these pretenders of education, mostly because they think they should be somehow better when it is eminently clear that they are not.
Someone need to ask how is rock music a sign of rebellion? Is anyone aware of the fact that the same question ask about rock n' roll is the same question they ask about folk, baroque, Classical music and Opera centuries ago? And Is anyone aware of the fact that Rock music origins is traced to African, Jazz, and slave music of the Antebellum period?
"The Talking Heads are primarily associated with the art rock genre, but they also blend elements of new wave, post-punk, funk, and Latin jazz into their music."
My brother's four children were all home schooled. One of his sons received some type of degree from Liberty University and is a worship minister at a fundamentalist church in South Carolina. He will probably spend his entire life in that 'bubble'.
What is really tragic is he came out as gay earlier this year but has decided to become celibate rather than risk not going to heaven because you can't be gay and a Christian :^|
Unfortunately, far too many gay people by into this religious bullshit, and deny themselves the only happiness that they might have in the only life they’re ever going to have.
He didn’t really come out as gay. He just admitted that he was a homosexual. I would probably classify him as the homo hating homo variety of homosexual, myself.. I don’t know what he’s doing, but I can be pretty sure that he does hate himself.
It’s really too sad. If he would to ask me, I would talk to him. But he’s never going to ask me. I had an older brother who was gay, and he never even told me that he was— his out and very proud gay brother— until 20 years after he had found out about me. He was afraid I would “push him over the edge”, by which he meant that I would encourage him to live a happy life. He died of murder or suicide or both in a Mexican desert 23 years ago.
I wish I could help more than that. Maybe your nephew will figure it out for himself. But I doubt it. It looks like he spent a good portion of his life in denial already. The longer you were there, the longer it takes to get out of it.
What I can't comprehend is that he spent most of his teens and 20s in gay relationships but is now choosing to deny who he is. A lifetime of religious indoctrination is hard to shake off.
It is hard to contemplate and understand, because it makes it even worse. He knows better, but he is denying what he knows in favor of his self hatred.
My brother was like that. He was a good guy, a nice guy, and only wanted to get along. But he hated himself so very much. I used to say that you could offer Dave 10 choices. Nine of them would have welcome signs and flowers and lead him straight to heaven. One of them would have barbed wire and keep out signs and would lead him straight to hell. And you could always predict which one he would pick.
Encourage your brother’s son to see a therapist if you have that kind of relationship with him. Not a Christian therapist, but one who deals with sex and gender issues. You may well save his life.
Unfortunately, I don't have that kind of relationship with him, mostly due to the fact that he knows I'm gay and I think is afraid of the fact that I'm happy.
My best friend has been carrying on the 15 or 20 year affair with a married heterosexual man. He’s with him right at this moment, as he is on every Monday.
"Armor of god," eh? It'd be laughable if it weren't so tragic. I hope that, when things DO go sideways, he has someone to catch him before things get out of hand.
He won't have someone, that's what troubles me. His church will make things worse and I'm not sure his parents, especially his mother, will ever accept his sexuality.
I have a hard time seeing him continue in that position because many churches expect their ministers to be married. Unfortunately, many churches see the minister's wife as an unpaid staff person who will perform duties for no salary or compensation to "aid" her husband's ministry. I would not be surprised if they tried to get him married to "cure the gay". However, according to conservative Christian theology, you can't engage in sex with anyone other than your spouse of the opposite sex. Of course, there are plenty of conservative Christians who commit adultery and so forth. I feel for him.
He is one of several ministers in his church - I would have called him a choir director back in the day. He has been open with the church about his sexuality and he believes as long as he keeps his vow of celibacy, they will accept him. We shall see.
That's unfortunate. Many brought up religiously who are gay end up as ministers for that reason, which is why pedophilia is such a widespread problem in churches, since often those sexual urges take over, & the most readily available prey are children. Of course, most people, gay or otherwise, in that position, don't fall for that temptation, but some do.
I didn’t see this comment when I wrote my first comment, but it was an easy guess at the end. I’m sad to see that I was right. I’ve made it my mission in life to try to save gay people from the worst that self hatred does.
Christian churches who pay no taxes keep sticking their hands inside the pockets of taxpayers to fuel their indoctrination.
They want to groom children? Let them pay full boat. If they don't want to do that, then let them pray for their needs like Jesus told them. Or is prayer not all it's cracked up to be?
They aren't content with the government subsidy they already get with tax exemption. (I would bet that most wouldn't get the 501(c)(3) designation if they had to do it the way everyone else has to.) Nope, they need direct kickbacks. The more they undermine public schools, the better they can control and indoctrinate, and with the voucher scheme, they can pocket a bunch of tax money, too.
Covetous bunch. I could swear there were not one but two commandments prohibiting covetousness.
Only about your neighbors ass. And if we’re talking about one of the Ryan’s, how could that possibly be sinful?
"There’s no critical thinking because there can’t be."
And by the way, AI is woke.
"And by the way, AI is woke."
Not if it is Grok, it isn't
Musk has some cojones, borrowing that word from Robert Heinlein. His estate should sue!
You mean the self dubbed "Mecha-Hitler?"
You can be a pedophile trump supporter or you can be a Christian. You cannot be both. Period.
There are plenty who disagree with that.
So many Christians are both Trump supporters and pedophiles. Or just pedophiles. We see the numbers here constantly.
There are a few thousand “Youth Ministers” who have proven over the course of many years that your statement is not only incorrect, it is a million miles away from reality.
I respectfully disagree.
FFRF.org regularly prints a black collar crime report. You may be shocked at how many clergy are charged with crimes & pedophilia. I am not because I’ve read new accounts for years now.
The history of the Catholic Church disproves that Christians are not pedophiles. Trump is just the Trojan Horse used by Christian Nationalists to destroy democracy in the US.
Christianity has a very bloody history such as inquisitions, purges, convert or die, murdering of women (thought to be witches), etc.
I would be curious to learn the racial demographics of these private schools. I have a feeling most would be majority white with a few token minorities.
Segregation was, after all, the reason for most of these schools existing in the first place even if the people running them won't admit that now.
Not just the racial demographics.
We have a number of religious schools in the UK that are, shall we say, more extreme than the Church of England Schools (which the National Secular Society is working against).
Most of these schools are male only. If the schools do admit girls, then they treat them very differently to boys, teaching them more "feminine" subjects and keeping them separated from the boys.
When I was in high school, I was the only young woman in my math classes. The young men never spoke directly to me. If they had a question for me, they asked the teacher.
Interesting! I was the only girl in shop class in High school in 1979, the boys all wanted to help me with my projects.
I didn't have boobs yet.
I did, how did you know my “secret weapon”?
I didn't have a brain yet.
"Who is behind them? Who's funding them? "
The UK and home country governments fund religious schools, these include Anglican (Churches of England, Scotland and Wales), Catholic, Jewish, Muslim, Sikh and Hindu schools.
However, since government funding means that the school has to follow the national curriculum and some social regulations, then a number of independent religious schools exist which allow them to follow their own curricula and avoid teaching about nasty things such as same-sex relationships. These schools tend to be of poor quality - https://www.secularism.org.uk/news/2025/11/ofsted-independent-faith-schools-more-likely-to-fail-standards
Oh, and I don't use the mealy-mouthed term "faith schools", these are religious schools.
Interesting.
Yes, they were dubbed "segregation Academies" by those who understood what their purpose was.
“In an Abeka history textbook, authors write that “slaves seemed to be better investments than indentured servants,” “
Wow, that’s like saying a hot shit sandwich is better than a cold shit sandwich. Both are a form of slavery, but chattel slavery is the most horrific type of slavery. Of course the slavers would prefer the chattel slavery since there’s less of an investment. I’m sure this curriculum also heavily implies the slaves were better off as slaves than dead, too.
Only people who wish they could hold slaves find ways to excuse the antebellum south as anything other than the blight on our history it is. Makes sense that they’re Christians (not that only Christians are supportive of slavery) since the entire religion revolves around completely enslaving yourself to God, by obeying his representatives on earth, aka clergy.
His reps are in sore need of better training videos.
Those that wish for the return of the American slavery clearly assume they will be slave owners rather than slaves. They assume the version of the 'Old South' they've been told about where well dressed wealthy land owners have happy slaves working their beautiful plantation is something more than a pipe dream. They honestly think they'll be king of their own little kingdom, and everything about their lives will improve. Gone with the Wind is a dubious romance novel, not a historical text, but these folks will never admit that.
History tells us otherwise, ergo, they sugar coat and white wash it when they can't outright deny it. Slavery in the US was cruel and horrific, and anyone with honest knowledge of the institution is well aware; there are still photographs around that show it.*
*Example: Wikipedia's article on Peter, an escaped slave. Fair warning, though, the images on the page are heartbreaking or nausea inducing, possibly both. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_(enslaved_man)
They think that their ancestor that didn’t own slaves in the antebellum south were well regarded. They were in comparison to the black slaves, but not anywhere near current standards. The poor white folks that fought to keep slavery alive were treated practically like slaves but they had their own spaces. They were sold their superiority over black people, just only to keep them in line and not rebel against their own subjugation. The only people who had a decent life were the slave owners.
Val…🎯
We're talking about Alabama, here - a state that ranks at the bottom of all fifty states for public education. The Alabama legislature has no interest in smart kids - only winning the culture wars.
Stupid people are easier to control and manipulate! Plus, stupid people make great mindless workers/soldiers that don’t question anything they are told! The elite members of the MAGAS movement will make sure their kids are fully educated, so they (elite MAGAS) can take their place as leaders (nobility) of the rabble.
𝑆𝑡𝑢𝑝𝑖𝑑 𝑝𝑒𝑜𝑝𝑙𝑒 𝑎𝑟𝑒 𝑒𝑎𝑠𝑖𝑒𝑟 𝑡𝑜 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑡𝑟𝑜𝑙 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑚𝑎𝑛𝑖𝑝𝑢𝑙𝑎𝑡𝑒!
𝐼 𝑙𝑜𝑣𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑜𝑜𝑟𝑙𝑦 𝑒𝑑𝑢𝑐𝑎𝑡𝑒𝑑.
-- Donald John Trump
He loves the poorly educated because he's one of them. That's what happens when you're rich enough to pay your fellow students to do your homework and take your tests for you. Your education takes a nosedive.
I agree with your assessment of Trump’s education. Trump is poorly educated and being manipulated by th real President of the United States (Putin).
He also relies on their ignorance, either consciously or unconsciously.
"He loves the poorly educated because he's one of them"
It is said of our former Prime Minister, Boris Johnson (spit), "He went to the finest schools and universities in England. It's a pity he missed out on the education"
Swerve alert:
We moved up to Scotland about 5 years ago. While we were looking at houses, we were often asked why we were moving (from Manchester, England). "Did we have family up here?", to which we answered, "No". "Friends then?", to which we also answered, "No". When asked, "Why then?", my response was that I didn't want to live in a country that could elect Johnson as PM. In every house but one, we got nods of understanding.
At least you knew who to avoid! That was clever of you.
I still want to see the college transcripts of the students who wrote his papers and took tests for him.
So do I.
And football games !
Alabama places a much higher value on football than education. Same as my state Floriduh. It seems to be an excuse to drink.
Yes, they had to be shamed into not voting for pedo Roy Moore, and to vote for Doug Jones, a decent man who got justice against the KKK.
Christian schools vary tremendously in quality. From excellent academics, to little more than Sunday school Bible classes. Giving money to private schools, religious or otherwise, takes money away from our already under-funded public schools. That students perform better in private schools is also highly deceptive. It’s easy to boast about great outcomes if you can choose who you’re going to admit, and retain.
Add to that the wealth redistribution upwards. The vouchers don't pay the whole tuition, so the ones who can afford it without the vouchers will use most of the voucher money.
If memory serves, data shows that the private schools will increase tuition by a large fraction of the voucher.
That, and at the same time, more schools will pop up as the money increases. The "good" schools will have the higher tuition but some schools will just take the vouchers and run not much more than a babysitting service.
And we can surely predict more sexual abuse.
A catholic school in Tampa did that, and caught hell for it.
Great points oraxx
Sometimes I marvel that I escaped from this kind of hell. It was YEC through 8th grade. A very fine public high school in Iowa. Then, thanks to ACT scores thru the roof, I got into a very competitive university where I discovered that a lot of what I believed was wrong. I was too smart to keep believing lies.
I remember when Iowa was ranked #1 in education.
I remember this also. I also remember hearing that if the southern two tiers of counties left Iowa and joined Missouri it would improve the literacy rate of both states!
I went to school in Iowa during that enlightened time and received an excellent education. FF to to my first teaching job at what was supposed to be one of the best h.s. in Iowa. I left 5 years later partly because of teacher behavior. So many of them wanted to be the students' best friends. They would walk down the hall with their arms around students' shoulders while discussing the upcoming football game and even bet money on games with students. At one point, a student was $800 in debt to a teacher. Another teacher brought donuts for her students every Friday, even tho it was against the rules, and, of course, students loved her for it. I walked by her room one Friday at the beginning of class and heard her announce, "Let's talk about what we're doing this weekend. I'll go first." Yet another promised a C grade just for showing up for class, no need to do homework or take part in discussion. One spent his free hour perusing child porn online, until he was caught and asked to leave. The school didn't press charges, so he's now teaching in another state. And forget Casual Friday; many teachers dressed like slobs all week long. And all this was just in one wing of the school (there were 3). Schools reflect society, so I can't imagine what it's like to teach today.
I attended school in three different school districts and that wasn't my experience at all. I graduated in '79, casual Friday hadn't been invented yet. : )
It wasn't my experience as a student, either, but as a teacher, I saw things from a different perspective. I still have such fond memories of some of my teachers from elem, jh (middle school hadn't been invented yet : ), and hs and can name all of them.
I believe that’s when I was in HS there. The Des Moines Register was winning Pulitzers regularly. A period of enlightenment.
Was that back when Radar lived there?
🤣🤣
Not quite that long ago.
1. I’ve been a rock and roll rebel for years, yet I made it through college, grad school and life with no help from a god. Did the devil make me do it? 🤔
2. Math, meh. I still don’t understand the process beyond addition, subtraction, multiplication and division. I do understand fractions though! :D
So, a fractional understanding of math. : )
Good way to sum it all up.
I am going to substrack myself from this pun thread.
Before the puns multiply?
And cause division among us?
And so much negative-ity.
Lol, exactly
A good teacher makes a hell of a difference.
So does encouragement. If I'd had any sort of actual encouragement from home, I might be a heck of a lot better at math now.
Geometry is the worst kind of maths. I stopped trying to make sense of it in 7th grade.
The only D I ever got between kindergarten and 12th grade was in geometry. Managed to end the year with a C, but I'm not sure how.
You would love Statistics.
No. I had a mandatory course of historical demographics, statistics included, and hated it.
I actually had a great tutor to help me get through algebra that way. Geometry was a bust, but I squeaked through. I had to take statistics in grad school and I just learned (via a tutoring lab) to recognize what the problem was asking me to do.
𝑇ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑒’𝑠 𝑛𝑜 𝑐𝑟𝑖𝑡𝑖𝑐𝑎𝑙 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑘𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑏𝑒𝑐𝑎𝑢𝑠𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑒 𝑐𝑎𝑛’𝑡 𝑏𝑒.
They don't want children who can think. They want children to be obedient little drones so the indoctrination roots deep and they maintain control.
Belle façon de se tirer dans le pied. Infrastructures construction and maintenance need people with a solid science background at the top.
WHAT a shitty bargain! Religiou$ Fanatics get Public Education funds. We get underfunded Public Schools, poorly educated children & children indoctrinated into obedient little MAGAsses that will turn on their parents in an instant to gratify the GOP's Trumptatorship.
We desperately need TOTAL & PERMANENT Separation of Religion & State.
It’s incredible how much education in this country varies from state to state. There simply is no baseline or standard (bEcAuSe FrEeDoM?). A friend of mine who is a professor at NYU said she can immediately tell whether a new student is coming from somewhere like Alabama or Massachusetts. Sadly, most of these homeschooled or Christian indoctrinated students won’t even make it to college. Either the absurd cost or the fear of “woke ideology” will keep these folks right where they are in a never ending cycle of ignorance and poverty as if it were some kind of virtue.
Well, ignorance and poverty are virtues…
For the people pushing the ignorance and poverty.
"Well, ignorance and poverty are virtues…"
Try asking Christians which book, chapter and verse are the "virtues" mentioned...
It’s the same book, chapter and verse that says to molest kids. Everybody knows that
Indeed. A tale as old as time.
War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength
🤡
1984 by George Orwell. I doubt the average MAGAS even read 1984, or for that manner any book. According to the MAGAS mindset reading/gaining knowledge/expertise is an elitist, socialist, woke, etc and is a sin (and to question faith in general), while ignorance and blind obedience (to the clergy and leadership) is a virtue (the more obedient and ignorant you are, that is a mark of a “TRUE BELIEVER”).
What more does a person need.
Thank You Orwell!
To this very day I wonder if those who "teach" that non-avian dinosaurs once lived alongside humans since they were created on the 6th Day of creation have been watching far too many sci-fi films and read far too many comic books and pulp fiction; all depicting dinosaurs, Permian reptiles, Cenozoic mammals, and cavemen living together in remote areas of the world side by side.
The difficulty of doing science is that it takes years to become good at it, and a good amount of background reading to understand it.
I mentioned last week that I went to a talk on Stac Fada, a geological formation in Assynt, on the west coast of Scotland.
One of the major themes of the talk was the dating of the formation (just under a billion years old). In addition, he covered why it is now thought that the formation is the result of a meteor impact rather than a volcanic eruption, and how it is the location of the earliest known non-marine eukaryotic microfossils.
The great beauty of the talk was how the consilience from multiple sources of evidence ties all this together.
That’s a good book, lots of information about mass extinctions that literally changed the earth. Far more that that fictional goddybitch ever did!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2s13X66BFd8
Today's earworm:
There's a man in the funny papers we all know
(Alley Oop Oop, Oop Oop Oop)
He lived way back a long time ago
(Alley Oop Oop, Oop Oop Oop)
Well, he don't eat nothin' but bear cat stew
(Alley Oop Oop, Oop Oop Oop)
Oh well, this cat's name is a Alley Oop
(Alley Oop Oop, Oop Oop Oop)
He's the toughest man there is alive
(Alley Oop)
Wears clothes from a wildcat's hide
(Alley Oop)
He's the king of the jungle jive
Look at that caveman go
He's got a chauffeur that's a genuine dinosaur
(Alley Oop Oop, Oop Oop Oop)
And he can knuckle your head before you count to four....
https://ibb.co/7d5ZQWJ6
The link is good for one week only.
“ they may be screwing themselves over when they get to college and realize they don’t know any of the basic material. And that’s assuming they even get into college.”
Well, that’s not being fair. At least they know the difference between the floor of a boat and an elephant. And they know what a boat or an elephant is. That’s four whole facts!
And besides, they’re not teaching education. They’re teaching stupidity. And that’s a whole accomplishment that you really have to appreciate.
Credit where credit is due.
"they know the difference between the floor of a boat and an elephant"
They know that elephants stood on the floor of the Ark during teh Flud.
And that the giraffes stuck their heads up into the little house on top of the ark.
...while the unicorns got left behind hiding, playing silly games.
Now we have five facts. What is everyone complaining about?
"floor of a boat and an elephant." - They both can have trunks.
You sound home-schooled, sir.
No, but my Dad was a science teacher and my Mom was an English teacher.
So woke!
Way back when, before I started school, my Dad was also the bus driver, so I would wake up early and get to go on his bus route with him.
See, I knew you were woke! Really early.
DM was a rebel until her death. The last three concerts we went to were Rammstein, the Hu and Apocalyptica 😁
"But this slogan twists the virtue of love by disconnecting it from Scripture, using it to promote the LGBTQ agenda."
Love is older than the abrahamic religions. Were Khnumhotep and Niankhkhnum, who lived waaay before the Ancient Jews made their official apparition in history, promoting a gay agenda ?
Still waiting for that official Gay/LGBTQ agenda to be printed. :)
It's all projection. It is Christians who clearly have the agenda.
https://ibb.co/8DM42D37
That sounds like an agenda I can support.
...but what about Wing Wednesday?! The straights don't own wings!
that is what I am having for dinner. Doing a classic buffalo and lemon pepper
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion..." Why there should be any question that such an establishment should include religious schools is beyond me. Once again, I am reminded of Benjamin Franklin's famous quote regarding good religions versus bad religions and the fact that there are damn few of the former and too many of the latter. That religious schools wish to dip into the public trough to fund themselves is a primary indicator that the quality of what they have to offer is questionable at best.
And yet people continue to allow vouchers and other mechanisms to fund these pretenders of education, mostly because they think they should be somehow better when it is eminently clear that they are not.
"rock music is a sign of “rebellion”" - Who knew George Wahington was blasting AC/DC when he crossed the Delaware.
Someone need to ask how is rock music a sign of rebellion? Is anyone aware of the fact that the same question ask about rock n' roll is the same question they ask about folk, baroque, Classical music and Opera centuries ago? And Is anyone aware of the fact that Rock music origins is traced to African, Jazz, and slave music of the Antebellum period?
The racist assholes objecting to rock as the devil's music are fully aware of its roots in Africa.
This comes to show that the "Rock n' Roll is of the Devil" belief is one of the many cores of White Supremacy.
The only christian music DM listened to was Gospels by black singers and choirs.
My friend Debbie’s mom who was in a Christian cult burned all her rock CDs in the backyard one day when we were growing up 🔥
Rock n' roll is Classical. At least that's what my local radio station says. : )
I'm no expert but I think you have that backwards.
https://www.rockmusictimeline.com/rock-roots
I stand corrected.
I bet those who denounce rock music would confuse Verdi's Dies Irae or O fortuna from Carmina Burana with Paint it black or Beds are burning.
And there are lyrics in Carmina Burana that would freak out your average evangelical. Check out "Ego Sum Abbas," in particular!
https://youtu.be/S523q5PCX6Q?list=RDS523q5PCX6Q
Most American music genres were invented by Blacks.
I thought he was singing ♫Take me to river♫.
"The Talking Heads are primarily associated with the art rock genre, but they also blend elements of new wave, post-punk, funk, and Latin jazz into their music."
" Take Me to the River " is a 1974 song written by singer Al Green and guitarist Mabon "Teenie" Hodges.
Didn't know it was a cover. Thanks.
Al Green had his own version of the song. I thought it was earlier than 1974, but I could be wrong.
> "Who knew George Washington was blasting AC/DC..."
Cause I'm TNT. I'm dynamite
TNT. and I'll win that fight
TNT. I'm a power load
TNT. watch me explode
My brother's four children were all home schooled. One of his sons received some type of degree from Liberty University and is a worship minister at a fundamentalist church in South Carolina. He will probably spend his entire life in that 'bubble'.
What is really tragic is he came out as gay earlier this year but has decided to become celibate rather than risk not going to heaven because you can't be gay and a Christian :^|
Unfortunately, far too many gay people by into this religious bullshit, and deny themselves the only happiness that they might have in the only life they’re ever going to have.
He didn’t really come out as gay. He just admitted that he was a homosexual. I would probably classify him as the homo hating homo variety of homosexual, myself.. I don’t know what he’s doing, but I can be pretty sure that he does hate himself.
It’s really too sad. If he would to ask me, I would talk to him. But he’s never going to ask me. I had an older brother who was gay, and he never even told me that he was— his out and very proud gay brother— until 20 years after he had found out about me. He was afraid I would “push him over the edge”, by which he meant that I would encourage him to live a happy life. He died of murder or suicide or both in a Mexican desert 23 years ago.
Give my condolences to your nephew.
Thanks.
I wish I could help more than that. Maybe your nephew will figure it out for himself. But I doubt it. It looks like he spent a good portion of his life in denial already. The longer you were there, the longer it takes to get out of it.
What I can't comprehend is that he spent most of his teens and 20s in gay relationships but is now choosing to deny who he is. A lifetime of religious indoctrination is hard to shake off.
It is hard to contemplate and understand, because it makes it even worse. He knows better, but he is denying what he knows in favor of his self hatred.
My brother was like that. He was a good guy, a nice guy, and only wanted to get along. But he hated himself so very much. I used to say that you could offer Dave 10 choices. Nine of them would have welcome signs and flowers and lead him straight to heaven. One of them would have barbed wire and keep out signs and would lead him straight to hell. And you could always predict which one he would pick.
Encourage your brother’s son to see a therapist if you have that kind of relationship with him. Not a Christian therapist, but one who deals with sex and gender issues. You may well save his life.
Unfortunately, I don't have that kind of relationship with him, mostly due to the fact that he knows I'm gay and I think is afraid of the fact that I'm happy.
And a non-Christian therapist? God forbid.
Before I settled down with my hubby (who was divorced), I preferred married guys as partners. Not a lot of strings attached.
My best friend has been carrying on the 15 or 20 year affair with a married heterosexual man. He’s with him right at this moment, as he is on every Monday.
As a gay person, I can tell you that most likely he will end up rejecting fundamentalism. Living a lie is a hard life and not sustainable.
He still admits to having gay urges but thinks he will be able to fight them off using the whole armor of God :^|
I'm worried about the possibility of suicide when he realizes he won't be able to live up to the impossible standards he's set for himself.
"Armor of god," eh? It'd be laughable if it weren't so tragic. I hope that, when things DO go sideways, he has someone to catch him before things get out of hand.
He won't have someone, that's what troubles me. His church will make things worse and I'm not sure his parents, especially his mother, will ever accept his sexuality.
Bloody hell. 😢
That's just sad. No more sex? I would die.
I have a hard time seeing him continue in that position because many churches expect their ministers to be married. Unfortunately, many churches see the minister's wife as an unpaid staff person who will perform duties for no salary or compensation to "aid" her husband's ministry. I would not be surprised if they tried to get him married to "cure the gay". However, according to conservative Christian theology, you can't engage in sex with anyone other than your spouse of the opposite sex. Of course, there are plenty of conservative Christians who commit adultery and so forth. I feel for him.
He is one of several ministers in his church - I would have called him a choir director back in the day. He has been open with the church about his sexuality and he believes as long as he keeps his vow of celibacy, they will accept him. We shall see.
That's unfortunate. Many brought up religiously who are gay end up as ministers for that reason, which is why pedophilia is such a widespread problem in churches, since often those sexual urges take over, & the most readily available prey are children. Of course, most people, gay or otherwise, in that position, don't fall for that temptation, but some do.
Gay does not equal pedophilia. That is offensive to equate them.
I don't think pedophilia will be an issue for him - he's into daddies :^)
Oh-oh!
He's mentioned contemplating suicide in the past but didn't want to commit that 'sin' either.
I didn’t see this comment when I wrote my first comment, but it was an easy guess at the end. I’m sad to see that I was right. I’ve made it my mission in life to try to save gay people from the worst that self hatred does.
He seems to have reached a point where it's not an immediate concern, but when he 'fails' at remaining celibate, I can see it happening.
I hope he finds a friend to help him, if he won't accept your help. Suicidal thoughts are so mean and obviously dangerous. Good luck.