The SBC is about as out of touch and tone-deaf as a religious organization can get. It is more about what they want to do to the people they hate than anything close to love and compassion. Young people are leaving in droves. I don't think they helped their cause much when so many members of their clergy pledged their unconditional love for the most grotesquely corrupt, incompetent, and immoral President in our history. Baptist intolerance just doesn't sell to the younger generation.
If I had to put it in one word, I would say: internet.
A LOT of those kids have read what we've read, or something like it, and I can't imagine that they like what they see at all. There's no resonance, no commonality, nothing that they connect to, so big surprise, they take a hike.
I think McDowell is scared because the internet doesn't suffer from the multiple filters that churches use to indoctrinate the young. Certainly, there's a lot of noise to be found, but also a lot of stuff that the church hierarchy DO NOT want them to hear ... except that they ARE hearing it and reacting to it.
A long time ago, Thunderf00t said that the internet is where religion goes to die. He wasn't wrong.
One thing the internet has accomplished is how it allowed people from all across the free thought spectrum to realize they were not nearly as alone as they once though.
“For 47 percent of Christian families, pornography is a major problem. 𝘈𝘴𝘴𝘰𝘤𝘪𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘧 𝘋𝘪𝘷𝘰𝘳𝘤𝘦 𝘓𝘢𝘸𝘺𝘦𝘳𝘴 came out and said that over 50 percent of divorces were directly related to pornography.”
According to Bing and Goggle there is no such organization. How can that be? A kkkristian apologist wouldn't lie would he?
Whilst I work in the financial industry, I have a more than passing expertise in the financial aspects of divorce and used to know LOTS of “family law” attorneys. Which is the term they mostly use to identify themselves.
Association of Divorce Lawyers sounds like the lie of someone who knows very, very little about Family Law.
What a shame that the internet is breaking the lock on "truth" that used to be the exclusive province of churches. Equal access for atheists? Horrible.
Hopefully, it saves all the kids from conversion therapy, that torture shit really pisses me off, that they would harm kids that way, they should be jailed.
It started wirh television. Living both in the 1800's and 1980's can be too hard after a time. Especially when you have a second class* citizen status.
Television today is rife with documentaries about the different periods such as the Jurassic, etc in the earth's history, how dinosaurs gave way to smaller mammals, how hominids evolved on an earth that is NOT 6,000 years old. And for those growing up in the age of the Hubble and Webb Telescopes bringing home the incredible vastness of the universe, it must be hard to imagine that a stone age tribal god waved whatever passes for his hand and created the whole thing. The absurdity is there for all to see.
christianity has become a religion of hate, and the SBC is a "Hate Church". But what can you expect of a sect that split off because they defended slavery?
Another reason why Republicans don't support getting rural America connected to broadband and high-speed internet. To the extent they can keep rural Americans in the dark, uneducated, low income while still getting them to vote GOP helps maintain their power grid. The bible states are filled with Christian radio blasting out from AM stations.
I left church at age 13, because it was the same people I encountered at school all week long who bothered me for being a weirdo. Same shit, different day, different place.
For sure. The SBC is hardly unique. Some of the most mean-spirited and intolerant people I've ever known never missed church. I think this was due in no small part to the way their religious organization reinforced and empowered them.
Look at their origin - they broke away from the 'Northern' baptists because they were pro-slavery and pro-segregation while the northern ones were abolitionists.
The SBC was a break-off from pro-slavery but more cagey southern baptists. The majority of southern baptist churches were happy to support slavery as a US institution, but wanted to create a rule whereby preachers taking mission trips to Africa wouldn't take their black slaves along with them. Because, obviously, that makes it harder to convert the natives. The churches that became the SBC were so invested in the privilege of slave-owning that they wouldn't compromise even on that point. Like the Bible itself, "Hey, why don't we just NOT own people" was never part of that conversation.
Ironically, it would probably not made a difference to the Africans if missionaries had a few slaves with them. Slavery is as African as apple pie is American, and it would probably have enhanced missionaries' prestige.
Yes, but there was a difference in the way most Africans practiced slavery, you eventually got freedom, through hard work or contributions to the tribe. And your children were never enslaved. They were shocked at the way it was done in the South.
♫♪ And the Beat Goes On ... And the Beat Goes On ... ♪♫
Greed and aggregation of wealth at congregants' expense. Sexual assaults and rape. Castigation of the LGBTQ+ community. Working against women, against choice, and promoting subservience of women. Slowly but surely, I think people are finally seeing the true face of the Southern Baptist Convention, and they are voting with their feet. Are they going the distance and becoming atheists? Almost certainly not, but they may finally have had a bellyful of the crap that they see at the pulpit and elsewhere in their church.
As with so many other stories, followup is necessary. Still, I fully expect to see this trend continue, and I am all for it.
It's funny how, depending of the country, things go forward or backward independently of how much religious they seem to be. Take Ireland, Malta, Spain and Poland on the abortion and LGBTQI+ right to marry front.
The RCC seems to hold its vassal states (such as Ireland) back in modern society. Once Ireland threw off the shackles and joined the modern day, they began to prosper.
The slowdown is not surprising, as it may only be a temporary slowdown or it may be that there since there are fewer people in the religion, there are fewer people to leave it. What also will not be surprising is the SBC's response. Most likely it will be a doubling or tripling or quadrupling down on the very ideas that are driving young people away. It is expected to become more fundamentalist, strict, inflexible as the remaining members are going to be the ones who believe the strongest, either too old to change their minds, or just too convinced their right, or both. The leadership has already shown that their only idea to keep people in the pews is to become more and more fundy.
I expect the slide to keep speeding up and slowing down over the next couple decades, there may even be some uptick in the future, but I'm betting it will come to a head soon with the sect becoming fringe at some point.
I want to know what it's going to take to take down the Osteens and the Copelands and the Hagees and all the others like them. These are the people who have enriched themselves at the congregants' expense, while sufficiently bamboozling them to the point where questioning the leaders' behaviors is all but out of the question.
I want those fuckers to go down, and I mean so hard that they fucking 𝗕𝗢𝗨𝗡𝗖𝗘.
Not sure if I've ever seen you drop the F bomb, and twice no doubt. Lol
The congregants need to wake the hell up, I think that's the only way these big grifters are going to be brought down. Unless they can be investigated for tax fraud or embezzlement or insider trading, abise, etc, which I'm sure is happening because that is what grifters do.
What can I say? Those guys (and they're mostly guys) piss me off and get away with it, with rare exceptions. This is why I can barely watch the movie 𝑆𝑝𝑜𝑡𝑙𝑖𝑔ℎ𝑡 without wanting to throw something at the screen.
And they almost all of 'em get a pass because faith ... and that should piss any thinking person off.
SBC leadership is likely to be just as foxy as the most corrupt CEO. If the company goes bankrupt, absent a jail sentence they will leave with a massive golden parachute. Thus even if the SBC were to suddenly implode, you can expect that the highest richest echelons of it would just get richer out of it, not poorer.
So it's probably never gonna happen. The only way they fall is a criminal charge. Plus maybe, as the political saying goes, being caught in bed with a dead girl or live boy.
I've seen him three times, twice with Elton John. Rocked the house each time, and I was honored to be one of over 20,000 voices to sing along to "Piano Man" for all three. I love his energy, his desire to teach and share what he knows.
My HS boyfriend worked on his stage show Moving Out back in the early 00s, he worked on the travelling show, not the one that stayed on Broadway. He worked on many traveling Broadway shows. I was lucky to go see it when it was in Denver, and didn't know he'd be there but saw his name in the program. We went to dinner after the show with my friend and he talked about meeting Billy Joel and (IIRC) Twila Tharpe. (there's my 2 degrees of separation with Billy Joel)
Even before BJ found himself in a piano bar, he played in a two-piece metal band called Attila. The project was not a success and even he dubbed it "psychedelic bullshit." It was never meant to be taken seriously (the cover of their sole LP showed a shoulder-length curly haired and mustachioed Joel with partner Jon Small, both clad in armor)
Some of the membership decline may be due to local churches leaving the denomination (for instance the SBC kicked out a few who had women pastors). The SBC has 292 fewer churches in the same report (this would be a combo of churches closing as well as churches leaving).
Also some of the newly baptized (or rebaptized) may not have realized they are now SBC; a fair number of churches are hiding their SBC affiliation so well that many of their own members aren't aware of it.
Yeah I looked at that, but it turns out that's only 18% of the decline. So out of ~1,200 churches the SBC lost in 2022, ~1,000 of them shut down/disbanded altogether, while about 200 of them left the SBC fold but continued to operate.
Have to say it: if Neil is ANYWHERE near you, just GO. He was at once, entertaining, informative, and yes, inspiring. It was darn near 2-1/2 hours of GREAT FUN, and my gal and I enjoyed the daylights out of it.
I should mention, too, it was our second time seeing him. First time was something over a year ago, when we "worked" the State Theater as members of the Playhouse Square "Red Coats," the ushers and assistants who help make Playhouse Square run. His talk that time was: "An Astrophysicist Goes to the Movies," and as with this time ("Delusions of Space Enthusiasts"), he was just a pure delight.
I'm hoping to make NdGT a yearly thing, whether we go as audience members or work it as Red Coats. Totally worth it!
Are you kidding? It’ll take them at least another hundred to enter the 20th century, and then two hundred after that to finally reach the 21st century.
Generally, whenever I hear about some church's attendance or membership numbers going down, my first reaction is something along the lines of 'that's nice.' When I hear that the SBC is losing members, though, I have to admit that makes me very, very happy. The source of so much of my childhood misery, so many of the wrong headed ideas, so much unnecessary pain, suffering, and general punching down isn't able to keep butts in the pews? Well. I'm having a great day, I guess.
Here's hoping we can hold the unattended funeral in the near future. The SBC is a blight on humanity, and deserves to die alone in a dark corner ignored by everyone.
Interesting song, I like it..... it's very different than Cats in the Cradle. I like songs about true stories, like The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald by Gordon Lightfoot.
You know, I didn't think anyone could match my hatred for Ted Fucking Cruz, but I think she might have surpassed it. I know she would have if she were my governor. (Instead I have the murderous Gregg Abbott)
We only have one governor. :) And I suddenly discover I have no idea of the name of my Mayor. I know the neighbouring one because she is controversial. But I'm going to have to look up mine now. :)
It started falling off after "Sanford and Son" was cancelled, ending Lawanda Gaines' character "Aunt Esther," who was the loudest Baptist in the world.
By the way, Ms. Gaines owed that role to growing up with Redd Foxx. Both were class clowns and rising comedians in St. Louis. When he got the role, he saw the "Aunt Esther" role, said it would be perfect for Lawanda, and she didn't just take it, she inhabited it. They had perfect chemistry as feuding in-laws.
Oddly enough, in nightclubs, Lawanda Gaines' stand-up routine was the opposite of "Aunt Esther"...it was extremely raunchy.
The SBC is about as out of touch and tone-deaf as a religious organization can get. It is more about what they want to do to the people they hate than anything close to love and compassion. Young people are leaving in droves. I don't think they helped their cause much when so many members of their clergy pledged their unconditional love for the most grotesquely corrupt, incompetent, and immoral President in our history. Baptist intolerance just doesn't sell to the younger generation.
I would like to know WHY the young people leave.
Having known some of these people personally, mostly kids who went to high school with my grand kids, they're getting away from the intollerance.
If I had to put it in one word, I would say: internet.
A LOT of those kids have read what we've read, or something like it, and I can't imagine that they like what they see at all. There's no resonance, no commonality, nothing that they connect to, so big surprise, they take a hike.
https://www.christianpost.com/news/internet-the-greatest-threat-to-christians-apologist-josh-mcdowell-says.html
I think McDowell is scared because the internet doesn't suffer from the multiple filters that churches use to indoctrinate the young. Certainly, there's a lot of noise to be found, but also a lot of stuff that the church hierarchy DO NOT want them to hear ... except that they ARE hearing it and reacting to it.
A long time ago, Thunderf00t said that the internet is where religion goes to die. He wasn't wrong.
One thing the internet has accomplished is how it allowed people from all across the free thought spectrum to realize they were not nearly as alone as they once though.
OTOH, Flat Earth.
Pre-CISE-ly!!!
“For 47 percent of Christian families, pornography is a major problem. 𝘈𝘴𝘴𝘰𝘤𝘪𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘧 𝘋𝘪𝘷𝘰𝘳𝘤𝘦 𝘓𝘢𝘸𝘺𝘦𝘳𝘴 came out and said that over 50 percent of divorces were directly related to pornography.”
According to Bing and Goggle there is no such organization. How can that be? A kkkristian apologist wouldn't lie would he?
Whilst I work in the financial industry, I have a more than passing expertise in the financial aspects of divorce and used to know LOTS of “family law” attorneys. Which is the term they mostly use to identify themselves.
Association of Divorce Lawyers sounds like the lie of someone who knows very, very little about Family Law.
What a shame that the internet is breaking the lock on "truth" that used to be the exclusive province of churches. Equal access for atheists? Horrible.
Hopefully, it saves all the kids from conversion therapy, that torture shit really pisses me off, that they would harm kids that way, they should be jailed.
It started wirh television. Living both in the 1800's and 1980's can be too hard after a time. Especially when you have a second class* citizen status.
* If you are lucky.
Television today is rife with documentaries about the different periods such as the Jurassic, etc in the earth's history, how dinosaurs gave way to smaller mammals, how hominids evolved on an earth that is NOT 6,000 years old. And for those growing up in the age of the Hubble and Webb Telescopes bringing home the incredible vastness of the universe, it must be hard to imagine that a stone age tribal god waved whatever passes for his hand and created the whole thing. The absurdity is there for all to see.
And TV etc. It is hard to believe in good god when what the members do is to promote evil to those they don't like.
We call them CINOs - Christian in name only.
Except there are way more of them, than actual loving christians.
christianity has become a religion of hate, and the SBC is a "Hate Church". But what can you expect of a sect that split off because they defended slavery?
Another reason why Republicans don't support getting rural America connected to broadband and high-speed internet. To the extent they can keep rural Americans in the dark, uneducated, low income while still getting them to vote GOP helps maintain their power grid. The bible states are filled with Christian radio blasting out from AM stations.
🎯🎯🎯Sinclair should be trust-busted as they are a monopoly.
I left church at age 13, because it was the same people I encountered at school all week long who bothered me for being a weirdo. Same shit, different day, different place.
Probably sick of the molesty adult predators.
I am not sure, the rcc is quite "good" on that front too.
For sure. The SBC is hardly unique. Some of the most mean-spirited and intolerant people I've ever known never missed church. I think this was due in no small part to the way their religious organization reinforced and empowered them.
Is it quite good on any front?
From NOGODZ and Bags experience it's good to make Atheists.
They stole some pretty amazing art from cultures all around the world.
Look at their origin - they broke away from the 'Northern' baptists because they were pro-slavery and pro-segregation while the northern ones were abolitionists.
That's not quite correct.
The SBC was a break-off from pro-slavery but more cagey southern baptists. The majority of southern baptist churches were happy to support slavery as a US institution, but wanted to create a rule whereby preachers taking mission trips to Africa wouldn't take their black slaves along with them. Because, obviously, that makes it harder to convert the natives. The churches that became the SBC were so invested in the privilege of slave-owning that they wouldn't compromise even on that point. Like the Bible itself, "Hey, why don't we just NOT own people" was never part of that conversation.
Of course not owning people wasn't part of the conversation! There were no disadvantages for them, in any way, as far as I know; to owning people.
The net result was 6 of one and half a dozen of the other. They were openly pro-slavery.
Ironically, it would probably not made a difference to the Africans if missionaries had a few slaves with them. Slavery is as African as apple pie is American, and it would probably have enhanced missionaries' prestige.
Yes, but there was a difference in the way most Africans practiced slavery, you eventually got freedom, through hard work or contributions to the tribe. And your children were never enslaved. They were shocked at the way it was done in the South.
And they are so bad lifelong member and actual Christian Jimmy Carter left them, when you have lost St. Carter...
♫♪ And the Beat Goes On ... And the Beat Goes On ... ♪♫
Greed and aggregation of wealth at congregants' expense. Sexual assaults and rape. Castigation of the LGBTQ+ community. Working against women, against choice, and promoting subservience of women. Slowly but surely, I think people are finally seeing the true face of the Southern Baptist Convention, and they are voting with their feet. Are they going the distance and becoming atheists? Almost certainly not, but they may finally have had a bellyful of the crap that they see at the pulpit and elsewhere in their church.
As with so many other stories, followup is necessary. Still, I fully expect to see this trend continue, and I am all for it.
I seem to remember there has been several pieces about the drop of members in various fairy-tale societies. At least in western Europe.
It's funny how, depending of the country, things go forward or backward independently of how much religious they seem to be. Take Ireland, Malta, Spain and Poland on the abortion and LGBTQI+ right to marry front.
The RCC seems to hold its vassal states (such as Ireland) back in modern society. Once Ireland threw off the shackles and joined the modern day, they began to prosper.
The SBC did play a part in my choice to embrace atheism.
The RCC played a large part in me coming to the realization that religion was shite.
Me also, SBC just pushed me over the edge.
The slowdown is not surprising, as it may only be a temporary slowdown or it may be that there since there are fewer people in the religion, there are fewer people to leave it. What also will not be surprising is the SBC's response. Most likely it will be a doubling or tripling or quadrupling down on the very ideas that are driving young people away. It is expected to become more fundamentalist, strict, inflexible as the remaining members are going to be the ones who believe the strongest, either too old to change their minds, or just too convinced their right, or both. The leadership has already shown that their only idea to keep people in the pews is to become more and more fundy.
I expect the slide to keep speeding up and slowing down over the next couple decades, there may even be some uptick in the future, but I'm betting it will come to a head soon with the sect becoming fringe at some point.
[The SBC took in $10,027,338,119 in 2023. That’s over $10 billion. It’s more than they took in in 2022.]
And I wonder how much of that is going to helping the poor, feeding the hungry, paying the medical bills of the sick?
Just kidding, I have a pretty good idea of how much is being spent on that.
Hey ! I will let you know you can't be a good passtor if you don't have a couple of luxury cars and a private jet.
Can't ride in a tube full of demons*. That would be ungodly.
* Not literally, but figuratively I could see it. I *hate* flying commercial.
"Be the demon!"
It's sure to be better when you are hobbit sized.
First Class is tolerable, but too expensive, and you still have to contend with the vagrancies of scheduling.
And you will still be stuck in that tube with the other peasants.
And you might even be sharing First Class with other peasants too!
And a mansion.
Only one? A TRUE Christian pastor has to have at least 6!
With helicopter pads for the REAL Prosperity types.
Don't forget the pool, and how much it will cost them to pay for the services of the pool boy.
At least the pool boy gets some out of it.
You're just being wrongheaded about who the poors aare! THEY are the poors who needs help, THEY are WORTHY poors! /s
probably something like $2.75.
This slower decline is just a prolonged death rattle for the SBC. Can't say I'm very sorry to see it.
I want to know what it's going to take to take down the Osteens and the Copelands and the Hagees and all the others like them. These are the people who have enriched themselves at the congregants' expense, while sufficiently bamboozling them to the point where questioning the leaders' behaviors is all but out of the question.
I want those fuckers to go down, and I mean so hard that they fucking 𝗕𝗢𝗨𝗡𝗖𝗘.
I'd prefer they SPLAT.
Always an option! 😉
Not sure if I've ever seen you drop the F bomb, and twice no doubt. Lol
The congregants need to wake the hell up, I think that's the only way these big grifters are going to be brought down. Unless they can be investigated for tax fraud or embezzlement or insider trading, abise, etc, which I'm sure is happening because that is what grifters do.
What can I say? Those guys (and they're mostly guys) piss me off and get away with it, with rare exceptions. This is why I can barely watch the movie 𝑆𝑝𝑜𝑡𝑙𝑖𝑔ℎ𝑡 without wanting to throw something at the screen.
And they almost all of 'em get a pass because faith ... and that should piss any thinking person off.
SBC leadership is likely to be just as foxy as the most corrupt CEO. If the company goes bankrupt, absent a jail sentence they will leave with a massive golden parachute. Thus even if the SBC were to suddenly implode, you can expect that the highest richest echelons of it would just get richer out of it, not poorer.
So it's probably never gonna happen. The only way they fall is a criminal charge. Plus maybe, as the political saying goes, being caught in bed with a dead girl or live boy.
Like Jim Bakker?
That was live sex worker named Debbie, IIRC. Poor Debbie they did not pay her enough.
Yes, there is something so offensive about their smarmy conman routine.
Quick OT
Happy 75th birthday to musician extraordinaire and atheist Billy Joel.
(He'll be at T-Mobile Park in my city on the 24th. First time in 8 years)
I've seen him three times, twice with Elton John. Rocked the house each time, and I was honored to be one of over 20,000 voices to sing along to "Piano Man" for all three. I love his energy, his desire to teach and share what he knows.
The man is for real.
My HS boyfriend worked on his stage show Moving Out back in the early 00s, he worked on the travelling show, not the one that stayed on Broadway. He worked on many traveling Broadway shows. I was lucky to go see it when it was in Denver, and didn't know he'd be there but saw his name in the program. We went to dinner after the show with my friend and he talked about meeting Billy Joel and (IIRC) Twila Tharpe. (there's my 2 degrees of separation with Billy Joel)
I wonder if it's still Rock n' Roll.
For Billy, I doubt it ever was anything else.
Even before BJ found himself in a piano bar, he played in a two-piece metal band called Attila. The project was not a success and even he dubbed it "psychedelic bullshit." It was never meant to be taken seriously (the cover of their sole LP showed a shoulder-length curly haired and mustachioed Joel with partner Jon Small, both clad in armor)
Pop Rock.
Just don't eat them with soda!
https://lsc.org/news-and-social/news/lets-bust-a-myth-will-your-stomach-really-explode-if-you-eat-pop-rocks-and-soda#:~:text=The%20carbon%20dioxide%20within%20the,prepared%20to%20burp%E2%80%A6a%20lot!
https://youtu.be/-vG-kOoapPo
Didn’t he just release a new music video just a few weeks ago?
Yup. I posted it twice when it first came out (once audio only and once with the official video).
So beautifully done it brought a tear to my eye.
Yes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOf6CMbHPuA&pp=ygU1QmlsbHkgSm9lbCAtIFR1cm4gdGhlIExpZ2h0cyBCYWNrIE9uIChPZmZpY2lhbCBWaWRlbyk%3D
Saw him on the "Stormfront" tour, man is he a great performer.
Dagnabbit Chrischuns, you ain't prayin' hard enuff!
Howard Johnson is right!
Val Uptuous Johnson is right about Howard Johnson bein' right.
Blazing Saddles! 🤣
You can't miss when you've got good material to work with. :)
Dagnabbit, they ain't paying hard enough!
What!?! $10 billion isn't enough for you?
Jeff apparently doesn't think so, hence he's now facing unions.
That’s what’s known in his circles as “pocket money”.
https://youtu.be/99TosBn-rE4?si=qy_IlOI1DC2No7vl
Close. The leaders will blame the pastors, the pastors will blame congregants for not annoying others with Jesus sales pitches enough.
Some of the membership decline may be due to local churches leaving the denomination (for instance the SBC kicked out a few who had women pastors). The SBC has 292 fewer churches in the same report (this would be a combo of churches closing as well as churches leaving).
Also some of the newly baptized (or rebaptized) may not have realized they are now SBC; a fair number of churches are hiding their SBC affiliation so well that many of their own members aren't aware of it.
Yeah I looked at that, but it turns out that's only 18% of the decline. So out of ~1,200 churches the SBC lost in 2022, ~1,000 of them shut down/disbanded altogether, while about 200 of them left the SBC fold but continued to operate.
Will they have an epiphany and enter the 20th century before or after the last boomers die ?
As a Boomer, I stick around to be a pain in the side of Christians. We'll see who blinks first. ;)
You cover the West Coast. I got the North Coast ... and I don't think either of us is blinkin'!
You cover Cleveland, this boomer is staring them down in the Bible belt Mid-South
Gotta ask: How was NdGT last night?
Have to say it: if Neil is ANYWHERE near you, just GO. He was at once, entertaining, informative, and yes, inspiring. It was darn near 2-1/2 hours of GREAT FUN, and my gal and I enjoyed the daylights out of it.
I should mention, too, it was our second time seeing him. First time was something over a year ago, when we "worked" the State Theater as members of the Playhouse Square "Red Coats," the ushers and assistants who help make Playhouse Square run. His talk that time was: "An Astrophysicist Goes to the Movies," and as with this time ("Delusions of Space Enthusiasts"), he was just a pure delight.
I'm hoping to make NdGT a yearly thing, whether we go as audience members or work it as Red Coats. Totally worth it!
You are an angel.
I should hide those horns...with a TST beanie. :D
Personally, I think a wataboshi would suit you better.
A Pac-Man hat? Maybe at the next Shinto wedding I attend. ;)
(Wish I could've attended the wedding of Gene Roddenberry and Majel Barrett. It was a Shinto ceremony)
*Once got to meet Majel and their son Eugene. Good people*
You ain't so bad, yerself! 😁
Except I ain't weeping.
Then I'll go ahead and blink.
Nooooo!!!!!
https://youtu.be/6BKZkEFKB7I?t=226
*High fives you.* I'm at the last years of Boomers My husband is around the first year. His mother was a ministers daughter so that cured him!
They might have an epiphany and join the 20th sometime in the mid-22nd.
They are behind the curve and damned proud of it!
Are you kidding? It’ll take them at least another hundred to enter the 20th century, and then two hundred after that to finally reach the 21st century.
Is that a trick question?
My guess is right before the last 10% of boomers die.
"Study" from a sample called "fucked up paternal family" between the late 80's and 2001. The study stopped after DM and me got the hell out of dodge.
"Couldn’t have happened to a more worthy organization."
I'd like to put that to a test in a public-opinion runoff poll vs. the Catholics and Jehovah's Witnesses. Maybe throw in the Morms for chuckles.
I think the problems with the Jehovah's Witnesses are worse then the Catholics, but less well know among the general public.
What I know about JW (inlaws) and catholics (workmates), you are correct
Hell, even the Amish have a sexual abuse survivor support group, and that is not well known either.
To Barber and all advocates of conversion therapy: Let's see it tried on you to rid you of your religious delusions. How'll THAT be, eh?
How's that? Don't like the idea? Then if you can't take a dose of your own medicine you shouldn't be writing prescriptions for others.
Next time you can spare some energy by posting 🖕
As long as I'm on a library computer, I can. No can make emojis at home. Only emoticons.
..I..
Kinda looks like a penis and balls. 😉
Or would that be oIo? 😃
4 balls would be a little much 🤣
Oh, I don't know... 😄
Generally, whenever I hear about some church's attendance or membership numbers going down, my first reaction is something along the lines of 'that's nice.' When I hear that the SBC is losing members, though, I have to admit that makes me very, very happy. The source of so much of my childhood misery, so many of the wrong headed ideas, so much unnecessary pain, suffering, and general punching down isn't able to keep butts in the pews? Well. I'm having a great day, I guess.
Here's hoping we can hold the unattended funeral in the near future. The SBC is a blight on humanity, and deserves to die alone in a dark corner ignored by everyone.
"rearrange deck chairs on the Titanic"
LOL
If only they would all hit an iceberg tomorrow.
Dance band...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkSRF-uHlWk
Interesting song, I like it..... it's very different than Cats in the Cradle. I like songs about true stories, like The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald by Gordon Lightfoot.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/may/08/peta-kristi-noem-halloween-costume
Anyone posted this yet?
You know, I didn't think anyone could match my hatred for Ted Fucking Cruz, but I think she might have surpassed it. I know she would have if she were my governor. (Instead I have the murderous Gregg Abbott)
We only have one governor. :) And I suddenly discover I have no idea of the name of my Mayor. I know the neighbouring one because she is controversial. But I'm going to have to look up mine now. :)
I repeat, may she rot in pieces.
Bonus song
In Europe and America there's a growing feeling of rage
Started in response to a human threat
By the radical speech of one brunette
Miss kristi said, "I will represent you"
I won't vote for this point of view
It'd be such an dangerous thing to do
If the republicons love their pets too
How can I save my little goat from Noem's deadly gun?
There is consensus on common sense
On either side of the political fence
We share the same lovelies, regardless of ideology
Believe me when I say to you
I hope the republicons love their pets too
There. Bonus song coming in a few minutes
Kristi Noem, fifty-two
Asshole, born and raised
Survived a dog and a goat
Good lord
Pit gravel grave
Lead and baskets worth of worms
Dry eyes, it's no surprise
They were living on borrowed time
Who will do it?
Who would do it?
Somebody please take one for the team
Who will do it?
Who would did it?
Never gonna find out it was me
Big jerk, she killed them
Wasn't enough, hoped, needed her fifteen
'Cause blood is what she is enamored with
She waited long enough 'til they were spoiled and wild
Metal cane to the head, threw her in the sea
Ashes to ashes and flesh to fishes
Who will do it?
Who would do it?
Never gonna find out it was me
Who will do it?
Who would do it?
Take it to the gravel, kristi, and rot in piece
That would make a good song.
I see her going as Cruella de Vil.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyWVaZsUQjc
Here's to hoping the trend continues until the SBC is no more.
It started falling off after "Sanford and Son" was cancelled, ending Lawanda Gaines' character "Aunt Esther," who was the loudest Baptist in the world.
By the way, Ms. Gaines owed that role to growing up with Redd Foxx. Both were class clowns and rising comedians in St. Louis. When he got the role, he saw the "Aunt Esther" role, said it would be perfect for Lawanda, and she didn't just take it, she inhabited it. They had perfect chemistry as feuding in-laws.
Oddly enough, in nightclubs, Lawanda Gaines' stand-up routine was the opposite of "Aunt Esther"...it was extremely raunchy.
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FWIW, she was born/named Alberta Richardson. 🙂