“Sheep do not judge their shepherd,” has got to be one of the worst pieces of self-serving nonsense I have ever heard. One of the first things a cult does is tell people they can't think for themselves, but must follow the dictates of the leader at all times. Often, with religious over-tones. To challenge the leader is to challenge God himself.
Goddybitch and co. does a lot of judging of humanity, but we can’t judge it. Goddybitch can go fuck itself sideways, jeezyboy can suck a dead donkey’s dick while getting a bible shoved up its ass, as for the flying rat shoot the fucking damm thing.
Oh, if any Christian is reading this and I just offended their Christian sensibilities. The Christian can go suck jeezyboy dead dick.
I AM UNDER NO OBLIGATION TO RESPECT OR FOLLOW THE RULES OF YOURS RELIGIOUS BELIEFS!!!!!!!
It is alway the fact we (non-Christians) have no right to judge others, but the Christian is the first to judge and condemn everyone else.
Was it Sarah Palin who judge others who teen daughters got pregnant out of wedlock, but when her teen daughter got pregnant out of wedlock she stated that we had no right to judge her.
Religion is where hypocrisy, ignorance and blind obedience (not to mention hate, corruption, contempt and intolerance) are alive and well!
First of all, is this guy really setting himself, as clergy, up as actually being Jesus? And they call us arrogant. Second, so what if it's judging Christ? That guy, while occasionally (allegedly) saying some halfway decent things, was a massive asshole. I mean, the dude invented hell because he thought death wasn't sufficient punishment for "sinners".
Third, and this is the real problem, Archpriest Ignatievsky is defending a convicted child raper. He is telling his congregation to effectively ignore the conviction and deny the evidence. Evidence that was sufficient to convict in a court. When do we get a serious investigation into Ignatievsky? This isn't evidence he is hiding his own child abuse, but it is at the very least reasonable suspicion of that.
Judging Christ? You mean the imaginary son of an imaginary deity that was written to have said that anyone who loved father, mother, son or daughter more than him was not worthy of him? The same imaginary figure called "The Prince of Peace (TM)" who himself was written to have said that he did NOT come to bring peace; that he came as a sword to divide family members against one another? THAT Christ?
Keep your troublemaking ghosty, O Church of the Holy Pedophile.
Well! All I can say, in my best George Takei voice, is ”Oh, my!’
Sheep who do not judge their Shepherd frequently have only short careers— as lamb chops.
Where to begin with all of this?
John 7:24: judge with righteous judgment.
And Saint Paul is quite happy about judgment WITHIN THE CHURCH. 1 Corinthians 5:12 : “ It is not my business to judge those who are not part of the church. God will judge them. But you must judge the people who are part of the church.”
What we have here is a very bad case of Christian hypocrisy and religious megalomania, where in the priest confuses himself with God, and says that to judge a priest is to judge God himself. Well he’s sort of right about that, because when the infinite creator of the entire infinite universe calls a man he knows is going to molest children and abuse adult adults to his priesthood, one has to question his judgment.
And if all of this wasn’t very awful all by itself, where a priest of this God is clearly denying the very words of this God, WAIT! There is a subtext. Priest boy is clearly warning his parishioners never to look at the behavior of priests because that is just like looking at the behavior of the Christian God. As God go, I’m much prefer the Greek gods. At least they were honest about it. but to my mind, all he is doing is calling attention to the very large elephant in the room: sexually abusive priests. The Orthodox Church is no more immune to this than any other religion, but we simply don’t get the news because they aren’t that big in this country, outside the Greek orthodox which still isn’t all that big.
But WAIT! There’s even more. An over the top slathering of misogyny, warning all of those young men away from all of those young women. I would have to be Dostoevsky himself to explore all of the implications of the several warnings against having anything to do with women. And frankly, I don’t have time to take a bath this morning.
I’m guessing the priest is denying the natural relations between men and women, and is warning all of those young men that if they ever find themselves in bed with a woman, to be sure to close their eyes and think of Uncle Vlad, butchly riding his horse shirtless, and showing off those fine manly…
Where was I?
Just when you think you’re finally reaching the very bottommost depths of religious dysfunction, hypocrisy, self deception, psychological manipulation, misogyny, homophobia, and corruption, you can count on a Russian to say:
This declaration that religious authority cannot be judged by the laity reveals the Australian and New Zealand Diocese of the Russian Orthodox Church is morally bankrupt. Protecting sex abusers and their enablers from overt judgments harms their congregations both physically and emotionally.
I am a masn of gawd. IF I rape your chld(ren) it is because god has made them especially attractive to me. So be thankful your child was chosen for this special honor of being raped. /S
IZZAT a fact? News Bulletin, pal: Your buddy the carpenter-turned-rabbi wasn't all that slick to begin with. And if your people violate the law, and especially if the violation is something as egregious as sexual assault, that assailant will find himself in the crosshairs of that same law. If that amounts to sheep judging the shepherd, then I would suggest you learn to live with it. Not you nor any of your fellow priests are above the law.
And you will learn to conform to that law or face the consequences.
This kind of speech reminds me of my high and mighty trump loving “Christian” aunt who told me she doesn’t “judge” people but that God allows her to discern. Context: she commented on a FB video of a group of black men & white men duking it out (this was in 2019) and said they were “violent Muslims imported into Ilhan Omar’s district by Obama.” When I called her out on it for judging these men based on their skin color with zero knowledge of the story, her reply was she wasn’t judging, she was “discerning” as God allows her to. We haven’t spoken since. Her Christian hypocrisy is part of the reason I turned my back on organized religion.
Using a dictionary/encyclopedia/or any book that has knowledge is too “woke” and anti-Christian. Rednecks think that wilful stupidity, unquestioning faith, blind obedience are the mark of a true Christian. That is what the rest of us (non-Magas) has to deal with.
“To judge a priest is not your business. The sheep do not judge the shepherd regardless of who [he] may be. To judge a priest means to judge Christ himself.”
And we can’t have Jesus looking bad, now can we. If we judge the priests, and we see that they’re flawed, then we can assume Jesus is flawed, and if those flaws are abusive then folks might recognize the church itself is abusive and they don’t want their “sheep” to notice their abuses. Because that would weaken their authority and what are the powerful without authority? Weak. They don’t want to lose their power.
But, I mean, yeah, sheep don’t judge the shepherds, they generally don’t have the brainpower to manage it. If these folks had any sense, the phrase would be setting off alarm bells for them and they wouldn’t need it to be repeated. He seriously told these people they’re nothing but resources to be fleeced, fucked over, and eaten. And they ate it up with mint jelly.
Four hundred years ago, the average parishioner hadn't the education or the freedom of action or educated thought that we enjoy in the 21st century. The problem priests like Boris has right now is that, in the intervening four centuries, the public has become more educated and sophisticated, at least in places, and their presumption of superiority has become an anachronism. Still, they think they can exercise their authority on their "sheep," and the sheep will pray, pay, and obey as instructed.
Slowly but surely, the ones in robes and dresses and collars are learning that their flock have outgrown them ... and a few of them may remember one or two of their number who mentioned something about an organization known as "The Clergy Project..."
The preservation of the ignorance is at the heart of religion, though. They indoctrinate them from birth to avoid education and thinking. This is still evident today from this guy telling them they’re sheep and cannot judge priests to Paula White telling people not to try to understand things just trust god. Then there’s the infantilization of the sheep, you are god’s children, he’s the father, blah, blah, blah. They’re trying their hardest to keep people that ignorant, and in far too many instances they are succeeding.
That is why all religions clergy want to drag society back to the 11th century. In that century the religious clergy were not only above the laws, the religious clergy WERE THE LAW. The clergy of the 11th century had complete control of people and society as a whole. That is the type of power all religious clergy want to hold over today’s society, everything else is window dressing!
I noticed that too. He reminds me of the Mayor of Halloween Town in “The Nightmare Before Christmas.” You know. The one with the face that rotates between a broad smile/grin on one half and a snarl on the other half.
“Sheep do not judge their shepherd,” has got to be one of the worst pieces of self-serving nonsense I have ever heard. One of the first things a cult does is tell people they can't think for themselves, but must follow the dictates of the leader at all times. Often, with religious over-tones. To challenge the leader is to challenge God himself.
Fun thing: if bees don’t like their queen, they kill her and make a new one.
Great Matri, how very French of them!
Don't write things like that. I read it while drinking wine. Where do you think that wine is now?
Not in you?
You got it in one.
Goddybitch and co. does a lot of judging of humanity, but we can’t judge it. Goddybitch can go fuck itself sideways, jeezyboy can suck a dead donkey’s dick while getting a bible shoved up its ass, as for the flying rat shoot the fucking damm thing.
Oh, if any Christian is reading this and I just offended their Christian sensibilities. The Christian can go suck jeezyboy dead dick.
I AM UNDER NO OBLIGATION TO RESPECT OR FOLLOW THE RULES OF YOURS RELIGIOUS BELIEFS!!!!!!!
You are right.
Self serving claptrap.
Obligatory: Not. A. Drag. Queen.
Nope. Just another self-righteous jackass in a dress or a collar.
Or a damned ugly one!
No self-respecting drag queen would allow herself to go out looking like that. She would be far more FABULOUS!
Nor a godless atheist.
"The sheep do not judge the shepherd regardless of who [he] may be."
Translation: We are above the law.
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"When you are abused, be quiet. Offend no one and when you are offended, bear it patiently."
This from someone who is part of a religion that screams PERSECUTION!!! at every opportunity when they feel THEY have been offended.
Don't get to judge, Ignatievsky? Fortunately, law enforcement agencies/criminal courts DO get to not only judge but convict, you sheep fucker.
It is alway the fact we (non-Christians) have no right to judge others, but the Christian is the first to judge and condemn everyone else.
Was it Sarah Palin who judge others who teen daughters got pregnant out of wedlock, but when her teen daughter got pregnant out of wedlock she stated that we had no right to judge her.
Religion is where hypocrisy, ignorance and blind obedience (not to mention hate, corruption, contempt and intolerance) are alive and well!
You're not being fair about this.
There's also a great opportunity to make a lot of money.
Oh, shoot, there's ALWAYS been a lot of money in religion ... if you have few to zero scruples!
The best way to make a lot of money is to inherit it from someone. Preferably without killing that person.
In ways that can’t be traced back to you…
Sarah Palin: proof that God is fallible. And a fraud.
"When you are abused, be quiet" sounds like probable cause to me.
That dipshit doesn't want to abuse any of us, I suspect. Could result in a fast trip to whatever Australia calls an Emergency Room.
Or the morgue!
𝑇𝑜 𝑗𝑢𝑑𝑔𝑒 𝑐𝑙𝑒𝑟𝑔𝑦 𝑖𝑠 𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑓𝑜𝑟 𝑢𝑠. 𝑆ℎ𝑒𝑒𝑝 𝑑𝑜 𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑗𝑢𝑑𝑔𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠ℎ𝑒𝑝ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑑. 𝐵𝑒 𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑝𝑒𝑐𝑡𝑖𝑣𝑒 𝑜𝑓 𝑤ℎ𝑜 ℎ𝑒 𝑖𝑠. 𝑇𝑜 𝑗𝑢𝑑𝑔𝑒 𝑐𝑙𝑒𝑟𝑔𝑦 𝑚𝑒𝑎𝑛𝑠 𝑡𝑜 𝑗𝑢𝑑𝑔𝑒 𝐶ℎ𝑟𝑖𝑠𝑡 𝐻𝑖𝑚𝑠𝑒𝑙𝑓.
First of all, is this guy really setting himself, as clergy, up as actually being Jesus? And they call us arrogant. Second, so what if it's judging Christ? That guy, while occasionally (allegedly) saying some halfway decent things, was a massive asshole. I mean, the dude invented hell because he thought death wasn't sufficient punishment for "sinners".
Third, and this is the real problem, Archpriest Ignatievsky is defending a convicted child raper. He is telling his congregation to effectively ignore the conviction and deny the evidence. Evidence that was sufficient to convict in a court. When do we get a serious investigation into Ignatievsky? This isn't evidence he is hiding his own child abuse, but it is at the very least reasonable suspicion of that.
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I read it that way - That he was assuming the mantle of the godhead.
Judging Christ? You mean the imaginary son of an imaginary deity that was written to have said that anyone who loved father, mother, son or daughter more than him was not worthy of him? The same imaginary figure called "The Prince of Peace (TM)" who himself was written to have said that he did NOT come to bring peace; that he came as a sword to divide family members against one another? THAT Christ?
Keep your troublemaking ghosty, O Church of the Holy Pedophile.
The son of a woman who didn't get laid, who miraculously became the deity who tells humans when and how they should fuck one another.
Well! All I can say, in my best George Takei voice, is ”Oh, my!’
Sheep who do not judge their Shepherd frequently have only short careers— as lamb chops.
Where to begin with all of this?
John 7:24: judge with righteous judgment.
And Saint Paul is quite happy about judgment WITHIN THE CHURCH. 1 Corinthians 5:12 : “ It is not my business to judge those who are not part of the church. God will judge them. But you must judge the people who are part of the church.”
What we have here is a very bad case of Christian hypocrisy and religious megalomania, where in the priest confuses himself with God, and says that to judge a priest is to judge God himself. Well he’s sort of right about that, because when the infinite creator of the entire infinite universe calls a man he knows is going to molest children and abuse adult adults to his priesthood, one has to question his judgment.
And if all of this wasn’t very awful all by itself, where a priest of this God is clearly denying the very words of this God, WAIT! There is a subtext. Priest boy is clearly warning his parishioners never to look at the behavior of priests because that is just like looking at the behavior of the Christian God. As God go, I’m much prefer the Greek gods. At least they were honest about it. but to my mind, all he is doing is calling attention to the very large elephant in the room: sexually abusive priests. The Orthodox Church is no more immune to this than any other religion, but we simply don’t get the news because they aren’t that big in this country, outside the Greek orthodox which still isn’t all that big.
But WAIT! There’s even more. An over the top slathering of misogyny, warning all of those young men away from all of those young women. I would have to be Dostoevsky himself to explore all of the implications of the several warnings against having anything to do with women. And frankly, I don’t have time to take a bath this morning.
I’m guessing the priest is denying the natural relations between men and women, and is warning all of those young men that if they ever find themselves in bed with a woman, to be sure to close their eyes and think of Uncle Vlad, butchly riding his horse shirtless, and showing off those fine manly…
Where was I?
Just when you think you’re finally reaching the very bottommost depths of religious dysfunction, hypocrisy, self deception, psychological manipulation, misogyny, homophobia, and corruption, you can count on a Russian to say:
HOLD MY BORSCHT!
Never mind the borscht. Hold my wodka!
Yes, I know. But borscht begins with a B and has an R in it like beer. Vodka simply does not have the requisite phonetics.
Damn sheep! Always being uppity!
"But borscht begins with a B and has an R in it like beer. "
Russian Sesame Street?
No sesame in borscht.
I just fell in love with Bensnewlogin, while still being in love with my legal husband.
Of course you did. It’s only natural. I’m not a woman who is goingbtobtempt you to sin. We will be pure and holy.
This declaration that religious authority cannot be judged by the laity reveals the Australian and New Zealand Diocese of the Russian Orthodox Church is morally bankrupt. Protecting sex abusers and their enablers from overt judgments harms their congregations both physically and emotionally.
Christianity (particularly Catholicism) is all about suffering. Not for the clergy, of course. Just for the flock.
Sheep are a resource to be exploited, not respected.
Among OTHER applications:
https://ibb.co/Q3Qz38JK
Like I always said rednecks know how to fuck barnyard animals and cook roadkill, it’s the only expertise that the rednecks accept!
They're also good at keeping the family tree narrow.
That is so true, and so wrong on so many levels that it makes my skin crawl.
I am a masn of gawd. IF I rape your chld(ren) it is because god has made them especially attractive to me. So be thankful your child was chosen for this special honor of being raped. /S
𝑇𝑜 𝑗𝑢𝑑𝑔𝑒 𝑐𝑙𝑒𝑟𝑔𝑦 𝑚𝑒𝑎𝑛𝑠 𝑡𝑜 𝑗𝑢𝑑𝑔𝑒 𝐶ℎ𝑟𝑖𝑠𝑡 𝐻𝑖𝑚𝑠𝑒𝑙𝑓.
IZZAT a fact? News Bulletin, pal: Your buddy the carpenter-turned-rabbi wasn't all that slick to begin with. And if your people violate the law, and especially if the violation is something as egregious as sexual assault, that assailant will find himself in the crosshairs of that same law. If that amounts to sheep judging the shepherd, then I would suggest you learn to live with it. Not you nor any of your fellow priests are above the law.
And you will learn to conform to that law or face the consequences.
Prophetically relevant at all times: https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/2011-05-03
This kind of speech reminds me of my high and mighty trump loving “Christian” aunt who told me she doesn’t “judge” people but that God allows her to discern. Context: she commented on a FB video of a group of black men & white men duking it out (this was in 2019) and said they were “violent Muslims imported into Ilhan Omar’s district by Obama.” When I called her out on it for judging these men based on their skin color with zero knowledge of the story, her reply was she wasn’t judging, she was “discerning” as God allows her to. We haven’t spoken since. Her Christian hypocrisy is part of the reason I turned my back on organized religion.
dis·cern·ing
[dəˈsərniNG]
adjective
having or showing good judgment:
Your aunt needs to work on discerning the dictionary.
Using a dictionary/encyclopedia/or any book that has knowledge is too “woke” and anti-Christian. Rednecks think that wilful stupidity, unquestioning faith, blind obedience are the mark of a true Christian. That is what the rest of us (non-Magas) has to deal with.
Thousands of years has bred billions of inane excuses and loopholes.
Rosentool’s Rules:
1. Shut the fuck up
2. I hate women, you should too
3. Take the abuse like a man (see rule 2)
I would say that shepherds usually don't fuck the sheep, but I saw the picture of this guy Rosentool. Physical proof of generations of sheep fucking.
Proof? There's video on EweTube.
"Proof? There's a video on EweTube."
Under the title of "Ram-a-Lamb-a Ding Dong?"
Ewe got to be kidding me!
Where Orion's belt is the waist of space.
Eeeewwww........................
Well, fucking barnyard animals is a skill redneck excel at. Second only by cooking roadkill.
Or sheep fucking humans? Gives a whole new meaning to stop drop and roll.
Does fucking a sheep destroy that sheep's life as it does a human child's life?
“Sheep do not judge their shepherd,”
Maybe not but the rest of us sure do, rape-enabler.
I can't take this guy seriously if he's not wearing a big goofy hat.
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Goofy = pious, not goofy = Goofy.
I've always thought of the Disney character Goofy as a good soul, just sometimes a bit confused. Of all the original Disney gang, he's my fave.
He thinks his long, scruffy beard makes up for it! 🧔
“To judge a priest is not your business. The sheep do not judge the shepherd regardless of who [he] may be. To judge a priest means to judge Christ himself.”
And we can’t have Jesus looking bad, now can we. If we judge the priests, and we see that they’re flawed, then we can assume Jesus is flawed, and if those flaws are abusive then folks might recognize the church itself is abusive and they don’t want their “sheep” to notice their abuses. Because that would weaken their authority and what are the powerful without authority? Weak. They don’t want to lose their power.
But, I mean, yeah, sheep don’t judge the shepherds, they generally don’t have the brainpower to manage it. If these folks had any sense, the phrase would be setting off alarm bells for them and they wouldn’t need it to be repeated. He seriously told these people they’re nothing but resources to be fleeced, fucked over, and eaten. And they ate it up with mint jelly.
Four hundred years ago, the average parishioner hadn't the education or the freedom of action or educated thought that we enjoy in the 21st century. The problem priests like Boris has right now is that, in the intervening four centuries, the public has become more educated and sophisticated, at least in places, and their presumption of superiority has become an anachronism. Still, they think they can exercise their authority on their "sheep," and the sheep will pray, pay, and obey as instructed.
Slowly but surely, the ones in robes and dresses and collars are learning that their flock have outgrown them ... and a few of them may remember one or two of their number who mentioned something about an organization known as "The Clergy Project..."
The preservation of the ignorance is at the heart of religion, though. They indoctrinate them from birth to avoid education and thinking. This is still evident today from this guy telling them they’re sheep and cannot judge priests to Paula White telling people not to try to understand things just trust god. Then there’s the infantilization of the sheep, you are god’s children, he’s the father, blah, blah, blah. They’re trying their hardest to keep people that ignorant, and in far too many instances they are succeeding.
That is why all religions clergy want to drag society back to the 11th century. In that century the religious clergy were not only above the laws, the religious clergy WERE THE LAW. The clergy of the 11th century had complete control of people and society as a whole. That is the type of power all religious clergy want to hold over today’s society, everything else is window dressing!
𝑇ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑒𝑟𝑣𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑖𝑔𝑛𝑜𝑟𝑎𝑛𝑐𝑒 𝑖𝑠 𝑎𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 ℎ𝑒𝑎𝑟𝑡 𝑜𝑓 𝑟𝑒𝑙𝑖𝑔𝑖𝑜𝑛...
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THIS!!!!!
Quick OT
Happy Birthday to Tom Hanks (69). Also Happy belated 85th birthday to Ringo Starr (born July 7th).
And here’s our buddy being magnanimous a day after his stirring the shit.
I noticed that too. He reminds me of the Mayor of Halloween Town in “The Nightmare Before Christmas.” You know. The one with the face that rotates between a broad smile/grin on one half and a snarl on the other half.
Wow ... Tom Hanks is 69? WHEW! That's a bit of a mind-mess, just by itself!