""It is appropriate that during this 250th Anniversary of our Nation's founding, Rockwall County will erect a monument to display the Ten Commandments,"
No, no it's not. Neither god, jesus, the babble or the 10 commandants are mentioned in any of the founding documents.
They like to pretend this country was somehow founded on the Commandments in spite of the fact eight of them would be unconstitutional if anyone tried writing them into law. There are perfectly good secular justifications for outlawing murder and robbery, everything else is pure religious dogma.
And in a way few people understand today, the people who wrote and approved The Constitution understood viscerally what a State Religion can do to persecute other sects, let alone other religions. Not to mention, that most of the ringleaders were deists… more Talibangelical whack-a-mole all toward the creation of their much sought after new republic of Gilead.
Not only do they NOT want to learn, it's pretty clear to me that their goal is to vitiate the First Amendment entirely, starting with the Establishment Clause.
The only way they will learn is if the Amerocan people coalesce themselves in one voice, both religious and non-affiliated, and say "No more!" in no uncertain terms. This upcoming midterm election may be the chance to do so.
Somehow (I know not how) I've managed to get myself on a right-wing mailing list, so I keep getting come-ons from the Paxton campaign. These are entirely void of anything touting the guy's experience or other (supposed) qualifications, let alone detailed policy analyses or explanations of his plans. It's 100%
Sounds like it. I just hope Talarico blows Paxton into the weeds, never to return. Judging from what I've heard so far, there is a distinct possibility of that actually happening! 🤞
What, AGAIN? [Yeah, TS, again, drat it.] Yet another case of: "What part of 'Congress shall make no law...' et cetera, et cetera, don't you get?" Obvious answer: they don't WANT to get it, and it's entirely possible that the purpose of putting this thing up is to create SCOTUS bait to take yet one more shot at the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment.
I hope the Freedom From Religion Foundation and Americans United fall on this with both feet!
They're just hoping that SCOTUS will declare the Establishment Clause to mean that congress is only prohibited from declaring one individual sect the official Church of the United States.
It doesn't matter, both popes, the former and the current are (were) head of the same church.
If you search wikipedia for "America", you are redirected to "United States". For the continent you have to look for "North America", "South America", or the "Americas". Or maybe you are afraid that readers are confused and think I was talking about the gost town "America, Oklahoma" or "America, Limburg" or even the asteroid "916 America" ?
The banana republic Argentina is still not a territory or dependency of the U.S. of A.
Argentines aren’t Americans. They’re Argentines. Call them Americans to their face and see what sort sort of response you get. Insist that they are Americans and they’ll think you suffer from Trump Derangement Syndrome.
"sort of response" Agreed, but not all Argentines and find it interesting that many from other American countries don't consider themselves Americans. Falling in line with the MAGA cult misnomer ideology that America is a country. Its contagious, sad and embarrassing.
I find it actually really quite interesting to observe (these kind of situations make me glad that I am an outsider) that despite all their professing their love for their country, their performative patriotism, they don't actually want to live in the United States of America as it was founded. They want to live in a different country.
At the risk of sounding like Pollyanna on acid, I LOVE THIS COUNTRY. I especially love Cleveland, Ohio, though now I live an hour south of there. I've had the chance to do a LOT of neat things and go to a LOT of neat places, inside and outside the US, at least in part because of the freedom our government affords us.
And I'm PISSED AS HELL at Trump and his coterie of idiot-children for trying to tear it all apart, because they don't think they're rich or powerful enough.
And I hope to see the day when they reap the consequences of their actions.
Territory marking, creating “precedent” and false history for the corrupt SCOTUS. Kind of similar to Confederate monuments being erected way after the Civil War (Jim Crow, Civil Rights Movement). They call it “heritage” or “states rights” which is just a political dog whistle.
I fully expect a pitched battle on this issue. FFRF has tackled crap like this more times than I care to count, and they have a strong record of coming out on top.
Rockwall County had better strap it on, 'cause it's gonna be a gunfight.
I don't understand how the Ten Commandments promotes Christianity when that list (found in the OLD Testament, a ripoff of the Tanakh) was meant only for the Chosen People and was made long before Jesus allegedly walked the Earth.
A lot of people believed in some sort of Supreme Being, before Islam and Christianity (and even Judaism) became the dominant world religions.
To me, it strains belief that Supreme Being has chosen *one* sect of *one* religion on this planet (or in the Universe!) as "The Elect", and everybody else, through absolutely no fault of their own, are Damned For All Time.
Seems to me the ancient Romans and Greeks were absolutely as sincere in their belief in their gods (or Gods) as the Mayas and the Incas in the Mesopotamian world; and the various African tribes, and the native American tribes, and the various "pagan" religions were in the sincerity of their belief.
I'm saying this as a Lutheran, but I believe Christianity IS NOT "the chosen" religion; and I don't believe there is any "one" religion that God particularly favors. God does not benefit from our religions one iota. God does not need our praise or our sacrifices (be it a "sacrifice of praise"). God doesn't even need our religions.
The world's religions have been, were and are pathways to God. Those pathways are for *us* to use, if we choose to use them. I think there is good in all world religions. I know there is certainly bad in all world religions. Whether we choose to practice "a religion" is entirely up to us. Hopefully that makes us better people. Sometimes, it doesn't make us better people.
I think it is perfectly possible to be a good person without God. I know from personal experience that there are some truly malevolent people who claim to be "believers". A lot of them are infesting our government here in the USA, right now. There are few things more dangerous than a sociopath who "gets religion" because underneath that veneer of religiosity, they're still sociopaths; and they will justify all the pain, the misery, the cruelty and the wanton sadism they inflict on others as "being appointed agents to implement God's will." Their behavior really does not have anything at all to do with God: these people are sociopaths, and as such they don't have consciences; and inflicting pain, misery, cruelty and wanton sadism on those unfortunate enough to be around these people is what sociopaths do. (Some of these people were ministers. One ran a Ponzi scheme involving nearly the entire church.)
I predict that Alito will use the following scenario:
- 𝗖𝗼𝗻𝗴𝗿𝗲𝘀𝘀 shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion (1st amendment)
- The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are 𝗿𝗲𝘀𝗲𝗿𝘃𝗲𝗱 𝘁𝗼 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗦𝘁𝗮𝘁𝗲𝘀 (10th amendment)
The Supreme Court will rule 6 to 3 that it was the explicit wish of the the Framers of the Constitution "To give every state the right to establish their own State Religion" (the 3 dissenting opinions will, as usually, be ignored)
I’ll just say what I keep on saying. Our constitution has stopped serving us. ‘Originalists’ on the Supreme Court don’t care what it says. They don’t care about over 200 years of settled law. they don’t care about tradition or the needs of the country 250 years after it was founded.
They care about power, money, religious Dominion, and in the age of a convicted felon who has been credibly accused of corruption and lying, has admitted being a sexual assaulter, a fornicator, and an adulterer, and who has stated publicly that he doesn’t give a crap about Americans…
Revenge on every person or group that he doesn’t like, or whom he thinks that his equally immoral followers don’t like.
Hemant gets to recycle entire paragraphs and we get to recycle countless comments. Here's mine: make these politicians personally liable for the costs of defending what they damn well know is illegal.
I don't know how it could be done. IANAL. That being said, if I lived in a jurisdiction like this, maybe I would try to file a class action lawsuit on behalf of taxpayers. No doubt it would be tossed for lack of standing or officials having immunity but it might at least attract some attention to the wanton waste of taxpayer money.
So many absurdities, but for me, a guy who loves language, the funniest part is the worshipping of King James’s dialect over our own. Doesn’t God sound fancy when He doth speaketh as if on a Shakespearean stage?
Another monument, this time with the Ten Commandments, along with a list of the Rockwall County, Texas politicians who have broken specific commandments.
You know, things like:
- swearing allegiance to Donald Trump as their Lord and Savior (idolatry);
- adultery (will probably take at least ten more large stones to list every instance of adultery);
- warehousing their parents in nursing homes and never visiting them (honor your father and mother);
- all the things they do on the Sabbath which are prohibited by Old Testament law;
- lying (slandering Democrats, liberals and progressives; how much they cheated on their Federal income taxes; political promises they made which they had no intention of keeping);
- stealing (pay received for work which never occurred; actual theft; stealing wages from their employees, etc.).
And that's just six.
I'm doing the same thing to Republican legislators in the state where I live.
The riposte I like, which I stole from someone, is that the reason there are no atheists in foxholes is because the atheists are running to the firefight while the theists are in the foxhole wasting time praying.
And that is their point. They want their revisionist pseudohistory claiming the US is a Christian nation to be forced on everyone. They want to make their version of Christianity mandatory. They want everyone to know that if you aren't one of them, you don't count as a full citizen. And when they get pushback they get to cry "persecution" and many people will believe them because of Christian Fucking Privilege.
This is Texas. There are between 25,000 and 34,000 churches/religious organizations there. Are they telling us that this monument can't find a home anywhere on religious property? Seriously?
That would be utterly pointless, of course. They have no interest in the Big Ten being displayed where it DOESN’T violate the Establishment Clause.
I suspect that the thinking when the Xtian Nationalist crowd erects these damned things on government property is kind of a cynical win-win strategy: “If we aren’t forced via a lawsuit to take it down, we can send the unmistakable message of officially preferred religion/power holders in perpetuity; but if we are eventually forced to take it down, we can claim the also-coveted second prize of ‘Christian persecution’. It’s a victory for Team Christian either way.”
More performance art from the religious right. They can’t provide a shred of objective evidence to support the idea placing the Ten Commandments in the town square ever made a bit of difference. In any event, these things are a win-win for them. They either get to force their religion on others, or they get to play the poor, persecuted victims of the Godless left. It’s that second option that keeps the money rolling in.
""It is appropriate that during this 250th Anniversary of our Nation's founding, Rockwall County will erect a monument to display the Ten Commandments,"
No, no it's not. Neither god, jesus, the babble or the 10 commandants are mentioned in any of the founding documents.
These assholes just never learn.
They like to pretend this country was somehow founded on the Commandments in spite of the fact eight of them would be unconstitutional if anyone tried writing them into law. There are perfectly good secular justifications for outlawing murder and robbery, everything else is pure religious dogma.
They also voted for a guy who has violated almost every one of their 'holy commandments.'
Violated those commandments like they were on Epstein Island.
And not just once, but again, and again, and again, and again, and again...
Which supposedly gives him and his followers to dictate how they think WE should live; and frankly, I DON'T BUY IT.
And in a way few people understand today, the people who wrote and approved The Constitution understood viscerally what a State Religion can do to persecute other sects, let alone other religions. Not to mention, that most of the ringleaders were deists… more Talibangelical whack-a-mole all toward the creation of their much sought after new republic of Gilead.
Well, the "false witness" bit is rather beneficial to our system of jurisprudence, too.
And, as with robbery and murder, prohibitions on perjury neither derive from nor are exclusive to the Abrahamic mythos.
Not only do they NOT want to learn, it's pretty clear to me that their goal is to vitiate the First Amendment entirely, starting with the Establishment Clause.
I hope a court case CLOBBERS them!
The only way they will learn is if the Amerocan people coalesce themselves in one voice, both religious and non-affiliated, and say "No more!" in no uncertain terms. This upcoming midterm election may be the chance to do so.
But...but...James Talarico.
I saw a recent poll that says Talarico handily beats either Patrick or Cornyn in a straight-up race. I like the sound of that!
Somehow (I know not how) I've managed to get myself on a right-wing mailing list, so I keep getting come-ons from the Paxton campaign. These are entirely void of anything touting the guy's experience or other (supposed) qualifications, let alone detailed policy analyses or explanations of his plans. It's 100%
ARE YOU A TEAM PLAYER? SEND MONEY NOW!
DO YOU HATE RINOS? SEND MONEY NOW!
ARE YOU WITH TEAM TRUMP? SEND MONEY NOW!
Short, sour, and festooned with clickable links.
Sounds like it. I just hope Talarico blows Paxton into the weeds, never to return. Judging from what I've heard so far, there is a distinct possibility of that actually happening! 🤞
"Amerocan people" Make Ameroca great again! 🤔
It is not going to be pretty. J6 rioters paid to do it all over again and a new ballroom (bunker) to hide in.
ICE threatening people trying to vote….
What, AGAIN? [Yeah, TS, again, drat it.] Yet another case of: "What part of 'Congress shall make no law...' et cetera, et cetera, don't you get?" Obvious answer: they don't WANT to get it, and it's entirely possible that the purpose of putting this thing up is to create SCOTUS bait to take yet one more shot at the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment.
I hope the Freedom From Religion Foundation and Americans United fall on this with both feet!
They're just hoping that SCOTUS will declare the Establishment Clause to mean that congress is only prohibited from declaring one individual sect the official Church of the United States.
To which we all answer in three-part harmony, "WHICH ONE???" We got some 40,000 Protestant denominations to choose from, the last I knew.
[sigh] This was old 10 squares back.
The Catholic Supreme Court will ignore the 40000 heretic sects and establish the one true Church with The American Pope.
Uh-huh, SUUUUUUUUUURE they will ... whereupon the Protestants will go after the Catholics, hammer and tongs, until all that's left is a greasy spot.
And we'll just smile and keep on keepin' on!
"The American Pope" Which one Pope Francis or Pope Leo XIV? Both born in American countries. 🤔
It doesn't matter, both popes, the former and the current are (were) head of the same church.
If you search wikipedia for "America", you are redirected to "United States". For the continent you have to look for "North America", "South America", or the "Americas". Or maybe you are afraid that readers are confused and think I was talking about the gost town "America, Oklahoma" or "America, Limburg" or even the asteroid "916 America" ?
The banana republic Argentina is still not a territory or dependency of the U.S. of A.
Sorry, the land mass named America is not a country. https://youtu.be/TwyYNcQvR0I?si=rmjOrL71orCkfroh
Didn’t know there was a country named Ameritina.
Argentines aren’t Americans. They’re Argentines. Call them Americans to their face and see what sort sort of response you get. Insist that they are Americans and they’ll think you suffer from Trump Derangement Syndrome.
"sort of response" Agreed, but not all Argentines and find it interesting that many from other American countries don't consider themselves Americans. Falling in line with the MAGA cult misnomer ideology that America is a country. Its contagious, sad and embarrassing.
Divide and conquer! 😟
Thanks
“Call them” Sorry, wasn't implying to call anyone anything. The imperlistic MAGA cult would understand. 😉
God bless Murica!
Thanks
I find it actually really quite interesting to observe (these kind of situations make me glad that I am an outsider) that despite all their professing their love for their country, their performative patriotism, they don't actually want to live in the United States of America as it was founded. They want to live in a different country.
At the risk of sounding like Pollyanna on acid, I LOVE THIS COUNTRY. I especially love Cleveland, Ohio, though now I live an hour south of there. I've had the chance to do a LOT of neat things and go to a LOT of neat places, inside and outside the US, at least in part because of the freedom our government affords us.
And I'm PISSED AS HELL at Trump and his coterie of idiot-children for trying to tear it all apart, because they don't think they're rich or powerful enough.
And I hope to see the day when they reap the consequences of their actions.
Shot for treason. Or at least deported.
Better yet: let them cool their heels in prison for a good, long stretch. Deprive them of their rights for a spell, and see if their tune changes.
Laughter is the New Resistance!(TM)
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About the 'different country' - I've just read this article, it is really relevant:
https://www.thelongmemo.com/p/all-but-three-were-from-south-africa?
Territory marking, creating “precedent” and false history for the corrupt SCOTUS. Kind of similar to Confederate monuments being erected way after the Civil War (Jim Crow, Civil Rights Movement). They call it “heritage” or “states rights” which is just a political dog whistle.
I fully expect a pitched battle on this issue. FFRF has tackled crap like this more times than I care to count, and they have a strong record of coming out on top.
Rockwall County had better strap it on, 'cause it's gonna be a gunfight.
Time for the Satanic Temple to put up a 7 Tenets or Baphomet monument.
Not just yes, but HELL, YES! That might just wake those dips up a mite!
No doubt they will but it gets the ST more publicity.
I don't understand how the Ten Commandments promotes Christianity when that list (found in the OLD Testament, a ripoff of the Tanakh) was meant only for the Chosen People and was made long before Jesus allegedly walked the Earth.
Here's a question I asked in a class I'm taking (at the tender age of 71!) which brought the class to a screeching halt:
Who, and what. was God before Jesus and Christianity?
Far as I'm concerned, the same thing it was after Jesus and Christianity: non-existent.
"A god that does not manifest in reality is indistinguishable from a god that does not exist."
--Matt Dillahunty
I get what you're saying. I really do.
A lot of people believed in some sort of Supreme Being, before Islam and Christianity (and even Judaism) became the dominant world religions.
To me, it strains belief that Supreme Being has chosen *one* sect of *one* religion on this planet (or in the Universe!) as "The Elect", and everybody else, through absolutely no fault of their own, are Damned For All Time.
Seems to me the ancient Romans and Greeks were absolutely as sincere in their belief in their gods (or Gods) as the Mayas and the Incas in the Mesopotamian world; and the various African tribes, and the native American tribes, and the various "pagan" religions were in the sincerity of their belief.
I'm saying this as a Lutheran, but I believe Christianity IS NOT "the chosen" religion; and I don't believe there is any "one" religion that God particularly favors. God does not benefit from our religions one iota. God does not need our praise or our sacrifices (be it a "sacrifice of praise"). God doesn't even need our religions.
The world's religions have been, were and are pathways to God. Those pathways are for *us* to use, if we choose to use them. I think there is good in all world religions. I know there is certainly bad in all world religions. Whether we choose to practice "a religion" is entirely up to us. Hopefully that makes us better people. Sometimes, it doesn't make us better people.
I think it is perfectly possible to be a good person without God. I know from personal experience that there are some truly malevolent people who claim to be "believers". A lot of them are infesting our government here in the USA, right now. There are few things more dangerous than a sociopath who "gets religion" because underneath that veneer of religiosity, they're still sociopaths; and they will justify all the pain, the misery, the cruelty and the wanton sadism they inflict on others as "being appointed agents to implement God's will." Their behavior really does not have anything at all to do with God: these people are sociopaths, and as such they don't have consciences; and inflicting pain, misery, cruelty and wanton sadism on those unfortunate enough to be around these people is what sociopaths do. (Some of these people were ministers. One ran a Ponzi scheme involving nearly the entire church.)
Looking at this article, I have to marvel once more at how the xtians ever thought they were persecuted in this country.
(OK, there was that time before we were a nation and Christians persecuted other Christians).
"𝑇ℎ𝑒𝑠𝑒 𝑝𝑒𝑜𝑝𝑙𝑒 𝑚𝑎𝑘𝑒 𝑖𝑡 𝑠𝑜𝑢𝑛𝑑 𝑙𝑖𝑘𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑆𝑢𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑚𝑒 𝐶𝑜𝑢𝑟𝑡 𝑔𝑜𝑡 𝑟𝑖𝑑 𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝐸𝑠𝑡𝑎𝑏𝑙𝑖𝑠ℎ𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝐶𝑙𝑎𝑢𝑠𝑒 𝑎𝑙𝑡𝑜𝑔𝑒𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟; 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡’𝑠 𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑐𝑎𝑠𝑒. (𝑁𝑜𝑡 𝑦𝑒𝑡!)"
I predict that Alito will use the following scenario:
- 𝗖𝗼𝗻𝗴𝗿𝗲𝘀𝘀 shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion (1st amendment)
- The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are 𝗿𝗲𝘀𝗲𝗿𝘃𝗲𝗱 𝘁𝗼 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗦𝘁𝗮𝘁𝗲𝘀 (10th amendment)
The Supreme Court will rule 6 to 3 that it was the explicit wish of the the Framers of the Constitution "To give every state the right to establish their own State Religion" (the 3 dissenting opinions will, as usually, be ignored)
Forgetting the 14th amendment guarantee of equal protection.
The Lemon test may be overturned, but the Asshole test is still in effect--and the Christians failed it yet again.
I’ll just say what I keep on saying. Our constitution has stopped serving us. ‘Originalists’ on the Supreme Court don’t care what it says. They don’t care about over 200 years of settled law. they don’t care about tradition or the needs of the country 250 years after it was founded.
They care about power, money, religious Dominion, and in the age of a convicted felon who has been credibly accused of corruption and lying, has admitted being a sexual assaulter, a fornicator, and an adulterer, and who has stated publicly that he doesn’t give a crap about Americans…
Revenge on every person or group that he doesn’t like, or whom he thinks that his equally immoral followers don’t like.
"about Americans" Agreed, all Americans in North and South America. 🤔
Hemant gets to recycle entire paragraphs and we get to recycle countless comments. Here's mine: make these politicians personally liable for the costs of defending what they damn well know is illegal.
Exactly! Hit these idiots in their PERSONAL finances, and we may hear a different tune out of 'em.
I don't know how it could be done. IANAL. That being said, if I lived in a jurisdiction like this, maybe I would try to file a class action lawsuit on behalf of taxpayers. No doubt it would be tossed for lack of standing or officials having immunity but it might at least attract some attention to the wanton waste of taxpayer money.
So many absurdities, but for me, a guy who loves language, the funniest part is the worshipping of King James’s dialect over our own. Doesn’t God sound fancy when He doth speaketh as if on a Shakespearean stage?
Simple solution:
Another monument, this time with the Ten Commandments, along with a list of the Rockwall County, Texas politicians who have broken specific commandments.
You know, things like:
- swearing allegiance to Donald Trump as their Lord and Savior (idolatry);
- adultery (will probably take at least ten more large stones to list every instance of adultery);
- warehousing their parents in nursing homes and never visiting them (honor your father and mother);
- all the things they do on the Sabbath which are prohibited by Old Testament law;
- lying (slandering Democrats, liberals and progressives; how much they cheated on their Federal income taxes; political promises they made which they had no intention of keeping);
- stealing (pay received for work which never occurred; actual theft; stealing wages from their employees, etc.).
And that's just six.
I'm doing the same thing to Republican legislators in the state where I live.
Is there enough monument-quality stone in the US to cover all of that? Mount Rushmore ain't that big! 😁
"...if you were to follow the commandment of not COVETING then capitalism fall apart!"
Which is just FINE by me!
(I'm a socialist, and have been a socialist for going on six decades!)
Well, I'm halfway there. I favor socialism for necessities and capitalism for luxuries.
And on Memorial Day weekend, no less.
Colonel Mason has entered the chat.....
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/pnj757/the_atheist_symbol_for_atheists_buried_at/
Atheists have served in the US military since the American Revolution.
"There are no atheists in foxholes." ~ Military chaplain Lieutenant Colonel William T. Cummings
"Bullshit." ~ Me, an atheist who spent plenty of time digging and hanging out in foxholes. 🫡🇺🇸
"UTTER BULLSHIT." -- Mikey Weinstein, of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation.
There’s no room for atheists in foxholes because those foxhole are filled to overflowing with xtians who KNOW no helping is coming from above.
The riposte I like, which I stole from someone, is that the reason there are no atheists in foxholes is because the atheists are running to the firefight while the theists are in the foxhole wasting time praying.
Ironic because the Christians started the wars.
If I had been a combat veteran (I missed the 'Nam and just as well), I would INSIST on that symbol on my marker.
I became an atheist in Vietnam.
I can dig that ... and I appreciate your service!
𝑇ℎ𝑖𝑠 𝑚𝑜𝑛𝑢𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝑤𝑜𝑛’𝑡 ℎ𝑒𝑙𝑝 𝑗𝑢𝑑𝑔𝑒𝑠 𝑚𝑎𝑘𝑒 𝑏𝑒𝑡𝑡𝑒𝑟 𝑑𝑒𝑐𝑖𝑠𝑖𝑜𝑛𝑠; 𝑖𝑡’𝑙𝑙 𝑗𝑢𝑠𝑡 𝑠𝑒𝑛𝑑 𝑎 𝑠𝑖𝑔𝑛𝑎𝑙 𝑡𝑜 𝑛𝑜𝑛-𝐶ℎ𝑟𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑎𝑛𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑙𝑎𝑤 𝑖𝑠 𝑜𝑢𝑡 𝑡𝑜 𝑔𝑒𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑚 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑖𝑟 𝑜𝑤𝑛 𝑔𝑜𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑛𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝑑𝑜𝑒𝑠𝑛’𝑡 𝑠𝑒𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑚 𝑎𝑠 𝑡𝑟𝑢𝑙𝑦 𝑒𝑞𝑢𝑎𝑙.
And that is their point. They want their revisionist pseudohistory claiming the US is a Christian nation to be forced on everyone. They want to make their version of Christianity mandatory. They want everyone to know that if you aren't one of them, you don't count as a full citizen. And when they get pushback they get to cry "persecution" and many people will believe them because of Christian Fucking Privilege.
OT: Hollow words since the church made money from owning human beings. Deeds, not words.
Pope Leo XIV makes historic apology for Holy See's own role in legitimizing slavery
https://abcnews.com/International/wireStory/pope-leo-xiv-makes-historic-apology-holy-sees-133279925
If they were sincere, they’d have to payout reparations that would result in the utter destruction of the RCC.
"Shoes of the Fisherman," anyone?
Exactly.
This is Texas. There are between 25,000 and 34,000 churches/religious organizations there. Are they telling us that this monument can't find a home anywhere on religious property? Seriously?
That would be utterly pointless, of course. They have no interest in the Big Ten being displayed where it DOESN’T violate the Establishment Clause.
I suspect that the thinking when the Xtian Nationalist crowd erects these damned things on government property is kind of a cynical win-win strategy: “If we aren’t forced via a lawsuit to take it down, we can send the unmistakable message of officially preferred religion/power holders in perpetuity; but if we are eventually forced to take it down, we can claim the also-coveted second prize of ‘Christian persecution’. It’s a victory for Team Christian either way.”
More performance art from the religious right. They can’t provide a shred of objective evidence to support the idea placing the Ten Commandments in the town square ever made a bit of difference. In any event, these things are a win-win for them. They either get to force their religion on others, or they get to play the poor, persecuted victims of the Godless left. It’s that second option that keeps the money rolling in.