Honestly, you would be hard pressed to find purity culture participants of the male persuasion that weren’t intending abuse. They may not recognize their desires are abuse, but they want it that way. They participate because it’s abusive.
It is the modern-day distillation of the worst practices of the Puritans. It is used to keep women subservient and men dominant. And it includes that wonderful trope that the only pleasure allowed was in observance of their religion. Oh, and sex is dirty if you don't hold your butt just right.
A thought struck me while reading this. I have been watching TikTok for a few months, and men on there are really pushing single women about "body count", ie, a high "body count" is bad for women. Men, of course, are never mentioned.
Now it hits me that this is all a part of purity culture.
I'm just squicked out whenever anyone refers to one's sexual history as a "body count." Tell me you think sex is inherently violent without tell me you think sex is inherently violent.
It's like the 72 virgins thing. WTF would I want 72 woman who don't know what to Fk do or even what they like? I'd rather be with one woman who knows herself first and knows all sorts of interesting things we can do together. But then I'm not some warped weirdo that believes ignorance is some sort of virtue.
If every male has a God-given right to be serviced upon request, then gay guys have that right too...and these fundies and incels can take their turn at providing the servicing.
All I'm going to say is that woman clearly needs to find a partner who knows what they're doing. Or she needs to see a doctor and figure out what's going on medically.
It is called 'vaginismus' and is frequently seen in women who have been abused. We were taught in medical school to inquire further when this was a complaint.
These dingleberries haven't figured out that there is no fucking after death. What I want to see is a skit where the religious SOB finds out he's got 72 virgins and a permenant case of ED.
It just shows how pervasive purity culture ideas are. Toxic masculinity, rape culture, and so on are subsets. People who are not beholden to purity culture won't pay attention to "body count" as a thing. What I look for? Is my potential partner caring and willing? How many others they have been caring and willing with is irrelevant.
It is also men's insecurity. They are afraid the woman will compare them to past lovers. It is understandable but if a woman is in love and feels wanted it doesn't matter.
You’ll be surprised to find that a high number to them is anything over 0. But their memes love to rack women in the 300+ range. It’s as though women might as well sleep with hundreds upon hundreds of men if they’re going to sleep with one who is not their husband.
There’s also a bunch of myths about vaginas shaping itself around the first penis and if that isn’t your husband then that’s why neither partner is ever satisfied, or the sperm stays in the body and the babies born are part of every man she ever slept with, and there’s more nonsense dressed up as scientific knowledge. Anyone who contradicts these men pushing the lies are just erratic, emotional, idiot women who obviously don’t know anything about their own bodies.
One guy I saw was saying women don’t have a clitorus, it’s just a conspiracy to give women penises and have men suck dïck to emasculate them and women are supposed to not enjoy sex because it’s an obligation not a pleasure. The stuff you find on the internet, I tells ya.
Anyway, this is the crap that the purity culture breeds, plus the women are convinced of these myths because they’re never taught about their bodies.
That's just fucked up! All of it! I have seen Huff post publish that the G-spot is a myth, and some lovely hispanic lady described how to find it and the reward in great detail! I don't know why they publish such bullshit.
No where in the Christian magic book does it say women need to give their consent for sex. It isn't limited to Christianity either. Women generally are considered second class humans by most religions. The real problem rests with people who willingly delegate an important part of their thinking to the clergy. Until that changes, this problem isn't going away.
It's easy to delegate our thinking to men in percieved positions of power when we are raised to believe men make better, more sound and godly decisions in general. Aside from the heirarchy being God --> Man --> Woman, it is ingrained in us that women are too emotional.
Say 𝘸𝘩𝘢𝘢𝘢𝘢𝘢𝘢𝘢𝘵?! Teaching women that they're someone else's property, that they deserve nothing better in life than to be spunk receptacles, incubators, and servants, and that they're damaged goods worth even less if they're abused before being sold to their future master, is 𝘣𝘢𝘥 for them? Who could've seen 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 coming?!
This culture harms men as well. I was molested as a young boy, and having been exposed to these purity sermons at churches and camps, then thought that I was "unclean" before God. They made me believe I should feel shame over a natural physical desire—that, combined with a belief that I needed to prove myself "clean" led to me fearing and avoiding relationships with women well into my late 20s.
Parents need to stop sending their children to these ministers, preachers, and to Sunday "School". These people are not educators. They're not teachers performing a holy duty. They're manipulators molding young minds to be permanently vulnerable, to be reliant on their God, their church, and their instruction, rather than raising then to be confident and capable of standing in their own.
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She offered her honor and he honored her offer, and it was honor and offer all night. Women are burdened with honor culture. Men are the masters of it. Honor culture is deadly for women.
Indoctrinating women into a culture where they can't say to no to sex on demand is abuse. That kind of indoctrination is the equivalent of domestic violence perps telling their victims, 'Look what you've made me do!!!" I'm old enough to remember all the scolds going after Hillary Clinton because she was married to a hound like Bill. The claim was ALWAYS 'if he was satisfied at home, he wouldn't have strayed.'
Notice here that women are not only being held accountable for their own actions, they're inculcated to think they're responsible for every last man's behavior as well. It's the ultimate dodge on the part of men to evade personal responsibility and blame their own bad acts on someone else. Helluva deal if you can get it.
In this past election we heard an echo of this BS culture when Sarah Hucksterbee Sanders claimed Kamala Harris isn't kept humble because she never had kids. I was glad to hear VP Harris respond that most women don't aspire to be humble. They shouldn't aspire to be anyone's sex dolls, either. What a sick, freaking culture.
"I'm old enough to remember all the scolds going after Hillary Clinton because she was married to a hound like Bill."
Notice none of those scolds have said one word about Melania and the fact that she married a serial adulterer who not only brazenly cheated on his first two wives, he did the same to HER. Where are those scolds now?
Let alone one who posed for spank bank photos, I don't care because I am a nudist, and so what? But the same people tarred Michelle Obama as slutty for showing her beautiful toned arms.
“…1975’s What Wives Wish Their Husbands Knew About Women by Dr. James Dobson.“
That’s ironic, a man is speaking for women.
Wait, that’s not ironic at all, that’s just the way patriarchy works. And of course it wasn’t even anything about the wives’ needs, nope it was more about making sure the women are doing more shit for men.
In NZ for years, school uniforms mandated shorts right up until age 18. Slightly humiliating, but I don't think it increased the number of gay people in the country somehow.
Just one more way for insecure religious men to control the women in their lives. The "boys can't help themselves" so the girls have to maintain control of their bodies, their thoughts, and their actions. What rubbish! But then again, religion itself is the epitome of rubbish.
The patriarchal nature of the 3 Abrahamic faiths and their monogod has created untold misery for the women trapped in those faiths since their inception. That misery is completely interwoven into the very fabric of those faiths. Yet more reason to break the chains of that unholy trio known as Judaism, Christianity and Islam.
Anyone who doesn't experience sex EXACTLY the way Vallottan does is a FREAK!
Actually, what he means is anyone who doesn't experience it the way he SAYS is a freak. He, of course, gets turned on by smelling sweat socks and when he tastes salt water taffy. So he knows he's a freak, he's just trying to help everyone else avoid being freaks.
I get the impression that many of these purity types have an ideal in their minds about how sex should be but cannot live up to it themselves. The only way they see to be able to live up to the impossible ideal they, themselves have imposed on ... themselves is to force everyone else to live up the same ideals in a convoluted way to avoid 'temptation'.
"Blue Balls" effects women too. It's not a buildup of semen, it's pressure from the excess of blood flowing to the area without an orgasm relieving the tension. There's medically no difference in the reaction across genders.
A majority of people today base their worldview on unverified ancient books of folklore that make unverifiable claims about magical beings doing magic stuff. And then they use these unverifiable claims to justify evil and horrible treatment of women and any other groups they don't like. It's pure insanity and nothing less than a global social cancer.
"I have hundreds of emails about girls’ hymens being restored.”
I know that duct tape can fix anything, but i think this moron's taking it a bit too far.
Also, why in the ACTUAL F are 'girls' sending him emails about their genitals???? And nobody thought to report this perv to the police????
Most likely, this emails never happened. Another liar for Jesus.
Dude's a freaking BETHEL pastor. They're always making claims of miraculous events without a shred of independently verifiable evidence.
It's not certain the fool even knows what a hymen is.
It's that book they sing songs from, right?
I thought it was the little dash between words.
It’s what you say at the end of a prayer when you have a lisp.
Alternate spelling for ancient greeting, "Hi Men!"
Nuh uh! Just ask him: he will tell you about the thousands of personal attestations he has of receiving those hundreds of emails.
Ah a "maroon", got it.
Don’t be silly. Duct tape is too harsh. Use the blue kind.
Binders full of women!!!!
"[C]ausing trauma even in relationships where there is no intent to use or abuse."
Purity culture is so abusive that it causes non abusive people to abuse.
Honestly, you would be hard pressed to find purity culture participants of the male persuasion that weren’t intending abuse. They may not recognize their desires are abuse, but they want it that way. They participate because it’s abusive.
It is the modern-day distillation of the worst practices of the Puritans. It is used to keep women subservient and men dominant. And it includes that wonderful trope that the only pleasure allowed was in observance of their religion. Oh, and sex is dirty if you don't hold your butt just right.
👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆
A thought struck me while reading this. I have been watching TikTok for a few months, and men on there are really pushing single women about "body count", ie, a high "body count" is bad for women. Men, of course, are never mentioned.
Now it hits me that this is all a part of purity culture.
I'm just squicked out whenever anyone refers to one's sexual history as a "body count." Tell me you think sex is inherently violent without tell me you think sex is inherently violent.
It's like the 72 virgins thing. WTF would I want 72 woman who don't know what to Fk do or even what they like? I'd rather be with one woman who knows herself first and knows all sorts of interesting things we can do together. But then I'm not some warped weirdo that believes ignorance is some sort of virtue.
Plot twist: You receive 72 virgins, but they must remain virgins.
That'd almost be comical.
Or they find out that it's 72 of their fellow incel scumbags.
If every male has a God-given right to be serviced upon request, then gay guys have that right too...and these fundies and incels can take their turn at providing the servicing.
The ultimate OWN!!
GMTA! Of course they are!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=le3XKdVM24k
All I'm going to say is that woman clearly needs to find a partner who knows what they're doing. Or she needs to see a doctor and figure out what's going on medically.
It is called 'vaginismus' and is frequently seen in women who have been abused. We were taught in medical school to inquire further when this was a complaint.
Obligatory:
https://youtu.be/j8ZF_R_j0OY
Plot twist, you receive 72 virgins, but they're Catholic nuns.
You can leave the habit on.
Did you mean to remind us of the song “you can leave your hat on”?
With metal rulers.
These dingleberries haven't figured out that there is no fucking after death. What I want to see is a skit where the religious SOB finds out he's got 72 virgins and a permenant case of ED.
They have zero problem with rape or any other evil shit. .
https://youtu.be/mNxKdb8DWm0?t=6
Yeah, ewww. It sounds like you kill them afterward, nasty.
It just shows how pervasive purity culture ideas are. Toxic masculinity, rape culture, and so on are subsets. People who are not beholden to purity culture won't pay attention to "body count" as a thing. What I look for? Is my potential partner caring and willing? How many others they have been caring and willing with is irrelevant.
It is also men's insecurity. They are afraid the woman will compare them to past lovers. It is understandable but if a woman is in love and feels wanted it doesn't matter.
Insecure men make for bad partners.
Yes, they do insecure women do too.
The obvious response is to name a high number, so that the idiots remove themselves from the pool of guys asking you out on dates.
You’ll be surprised to find that a high number to them is anything over 0. But their memes love to rack women in the 300+ range. It’s as though women might as well sleep with hundreds upon hundreds of men if they’re going to sleep with one who is not their husband.
There’s also a bunch of myths about vaginas shaping itself around the first penis and if that isn’t your husband then that’s why neither partner is ever satisfied, or the sperm stays in the body and the babies born are part of every man she ever slept with, and there’s more nonsense dressed up as scientific knowledge. Anyone who contradicts these men pushing the lies are just erratic, emotional, idiot women who obviously don’t know anything about their own bodies.
One guy I saw was saying women don’t have a clitorus, it’s just a conspiracy to give women penises and have men suck dïck to emasculate them and women are supposed to not enjoy sex because it’s an obligation not a pleasure. The stuff you find on the internet, I tells ya.
Anyway, this is the crap that the purity culture breeds, plus the women are convinced of these myths because they’re never taught about their bodies.
That's just fucked up! All of it! I have seen Huff post publish that the G-spot is a myth, and some lovely hispanic lady described how to find it and the reward in great detail! I don't know why they publish such bullshit.
TikTok, however, is not a problem.
You just have to avoid the incel algorithm. ;D
These guys don't like 'Used Women'...
No where in the Christian magic book does it say women need to give their consent for sex. It isn't limited to Christianity either. Women generally are considered second class humans by most religions. The real problem rests with people who willingly delegate an important part of their thinking to the clergy. Until that changes, this problem isn't going away.
Teenage Mary didn't concent to God, either.
It's easy to delegate our thinking to men in percieved positions of power when we are raised to believe men make better, more sound and godly decisions in general. Aside from the heirarchy being God --> Man --> Woman, it is ingrained in us that women are too emotional.
Crap we have a lot of reprogramming to do.
Consent* 😅
Especially celibate clergy.
And yet, Jesus said that in a relationship with Him, all are “one”—of absolute equal value:
“There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.”
—Galatians 3:28
Jesus set women free.
Women were among his supporters during His earthly ministry.
Women were the first to see the resurrected Messiah.
One woman in particular was “blessed” to be Jesus’s earthly mother.
Pricilla had a teaching role in the early church—and equal standing before God with her husband, Aquilla.
On and on, women were honored by God.
🎯
The assumption here is that women are property - chattel.
Say 𝘸𝘩𝘢𝘢𝘢𝘢𝘢𝘢𝘢𝘵?! Teaching women that they're someone else's property, that they deserve nothing better in life than to be spunk receptacles, incubators, and servants, and that they're damaged goods worth even less if they're abused before being sold to their future master, is 𝘣𝘢𝘥 for them? Who could've seen 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 coming?!
This culture harms men as well. I was molested as a young boy, and having been exposed to these purity sermons at churches and camps, then thought that I was "unclean" before God. They made me believe I should feel shame over a natural physical desire—that, combined with a belief that I needed to prove myself "clean" led to me fearing and avoiding relationships with women well into my late 20s.
Parents need to stop sending their children to these ministers, preachers, and to Sunday "School". These people are not educators. They're not teachers performing a holy duty. They're manipulators molding young minds to be permanently vulnerable, to be reliant on their God, their church, and their instruction, rather than raising then to be confident and capable of standing in their own.
God is going to punish you for saying this. Listen to the man behind the curtain: He knows everything and is always Right. Also, vote for Trump.
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She offered her honor and he honored her offer, and it was honor and offer all night. Women are burdened with honor culture. Men are the masters of it. Honor culture is deadly for women.
Hence, the prevalence of honor killings in certain repressive cultures.
The only Honor culture I recognise:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-11162866
Indoctrinating women into a culture where they can't say to no to sex on demand is abuse. That kind of indoctrination is the equivalent of domestic violence perps telling their victims, 'Look what you've made me do!!!" I'm old enough to remember all the scolds going after Hillary Clinton because she was married to a hound like Bill. The claim was ALWAYS 'if he was satisfied at home, he wouldn't have strayed.'
Notice here that women are not only being held accountable for their own actions, they're inculcated to think they're responsible for every last man's behavior as well. It's the ultimate dodge on the part of men to evade personal responsibility and blame their own bad acts on someone else. Helluva deal if you can get it.
In this past election we heard an echo of this BS culture when Sarah Hucksterbee Sanders claimed Kamala Harris isn't kept humble because she never had kids. I was glad to hear VP Harris respond that most women don't aspire to be humble. They shouldn't aspire to be anyone's sex dolls, either. What a sick, freaking culture.
"I'm old enough to remember all the scolds going after Hillary Clinton because she was married to a hound like Bill."
Notice none of those scolds have said one word about Melania and the fact that she married a serial adulterer who not only brazenly cheated on his first two wives, he did the same to HER. Where are those scolds now?
Exactly! I remember when repubs shouted "Character counts!" about Bill Clinton.
Character is no longer an issue for them.
They chanted "Rule of Law! Rule of Law!" at Clinton as well.
Just Clinton. Not at Bush. Certainly not at Trump. The silence is deafening now.
Their idea of the rule of law is that the law protects them while it binds us.
Which is weird because why should we, the party that generally likes sex, be held to their fucked-up standards?
They were hiding their hypocrisy back then. Now, not so much.
Exactly. Looking at you, Miss Lindsey.
Let alone one who posed for spank bank photos, I don't care because I am a nudist, and so what? But the same people tarred Michelle Obama as slutty for showing her beautiful toned arms.
"I am a nudist"
So is NOGODZ20.
Yes instead of stating the obvious Bill was a sex-addict.
“…1975’s What Wives Wish Their Husbands Knew About Women by Dr. James Dobson.“
That’s ironic, a man is speaking for women.
Wait, that’s not ironic at all, that’s just the way patriarchy works. And of course it wasn’t even anything about the wives’ needs, nope it was more about making sure the women are doing more shit for men.
This is the same homophobe that said fathers should take their sons into the shower with them so they won't turn out gay. *rolls eyes*
Local baptist church said putting boys in shorts made them Gay.
In my newspaper this morning, we had a story about a Seattle Baptist minister who got caught sharing child porn. Quelle surprise.
In NZ for years, school uniforms mandated shorts right up until age 18. Slightly humiliating, but I don't think it increased the number of gay people in the country somehow.
1. If Dobson was actually a medical doctor he would have used the technical term “blue balls”
2. Nothing says you’re not entitled to bodily autonomy than Leman encouraging women to give their husbands a mercy fuck.
3. Is the gum stuck to the bottom of my shoe the souls of young women? 🤔
Just one more way for insecure religious men to control the women in their lives. The "boys can't help themselves" so the girls have to maintain control of their bodies, their thoughts, and their actions. What rubbish! But then again, religion itself is the epitome of rubbish.
ONLY a malevolently evil gawd could make something feel so good then turn around and make it a "sin=."
The patriarchal nature of the 3 Abrahamic faiths and their monogod has created untold misery for the women trapped in those faiths since their inception. That misery is completely interwoven into the very fabric of those faiths. Yet more reason to break the chains of that unholy trio known as Judaism, Christianity and Islam.
Anyone who doesn't experience sex EXACTLY the way Vallottan does is a FREAK!
Actually, what he means is anyone who doesn't experience it the way he SAYS is a freak. He, of course, gets turned on by smelling sweat socks and when he tastes salt water taffy. So he knows he's a freak, he's just trying to help everyone else avoid being freaks.
I get the impression that many of these purity types have an ideal in their minds about how sex should be but cannot live up to it themselves. The only way they see to be able to live up to the impossible ideal they, themselves have imposed on ... themselves is to force everyone else to live up the same ideals in a convoluted way to avoid 'temptation'.
Like Comstock, who was a chronic masturbator, so he got the gov't to pass an obscenity law to prevent "obscenity and pornography" from being mailed.
"semen literally builds up inside to the point that his body needs a release"
ah yes, ESBu: Explosive Semen Buildup
we just called it blue balls.
yes, I was sharing a medical view rather than a technical one Thank u LoL
I've heard it called "white poison backup"
"Blue Balls" effects women too. It's not a buildup of semen, it's pressure from the excess of blood flowing to the area without an orgasm relieving the tension. There's medically no difference in the reaction across genders.
A majority of people today base their worldview on unverified ancient books of folklore that make unverifiable claims about magical beings doing magic stuff. And then they use these unverifiable claims to justify evil and horrible treatment of women and any other groups they don't like. It's pure insanity and nothing less than a global social cancer.