I am glad to hear that Pennsylvania has solved homelessness, unemployment, understaffed and underfunded schools, overflowing prisons, that all roads and bridges are well maintained, and that lawmakers can now waste their time on futilities.
So if they've already done their jobs so well and so splendidly, let's tell them to pack up and go home for the rest of the year and save all that tax money. I don't know what the legislative cost per day is in PA, but in Florida, it was just south of $50,000 per day, IIRC, and that was back in the 90's.
Well, this may be technically true. You could probably find words like "we", "establish", and "people" in the bible. But in that way 100% of all the founding documents come from the Oxford English Dictionary. Instead of a "Day of the Bible", perhaps a "Day of the Dictionary".
Well, some of the words and idea were from the Bible. Like initially, when the USA prohibited women from voting and holding office, that was a very biblical idea.
Apparently we are playing you at footie on July 5. You people are "mercurial" according to our rugby writers. I wondered if they'd been listening to your various "cactus" statements. 😇
When you consider these religious advocates being content with such things as, inequality, the working poor, insurance companies running health care at the expense of the sick, society being awash with guns, not to mention also their approval of overt violence inflicted on others throughout the world and the US not adhering to international laws around human rights and human dignity. One must look further into the pathology of US society and thinking than simply focusing on 'religion.'
Talk about the need for collective and extensive clinical therapy. 🤔
But just like planet of the apes, "You may no like what you find."
Another xtian violating the commandment about not lying. The Cult of the Cross is incapable of truth telling. But then again, isn't their whole religion (along with its book) based on falsehood after falsehood?
She may not be actively lying about the Aitken bible. She may just be willfully ignorant. She bought into Barton's lies because they fit the narrative her indoctination claims. Then she refuses to even listen to anyone who contradicts her because Jesus.
Truth is hard, Joe, but listening to the constant deluge of prevarication coming out of the xtian nationalists is even harder.
Religion based on 10 Commandments that should, by their own order, never be broken. Yet, their virulent spew goes on and on and on as they break each and every “commandment” with impunity. Pay attention to what they do, not what they say.
Most of them are actually shitty atheists who decided if there’s no afterlife that life isn’t worth living. They want to take all the rest of us down with them. Zombies
Actually, no one needs congressional approval to print a Bible. There isn't much Congress can ban when it comes to publishing. David Barton may as well be calling himself an astronaut rather than a historian. I know of nothing in the Constitution that was taken directly from the Bible. That foundational document never mentions the words Bible, Christianity, and Jesus. It does, however, specifically ban religious tests for holding public office in the United States, and if that isn't church-state separation, then I don't know what is. Nowhere does the Constitution give religion a role to play in governance.
As someone else pointed out, this was pre-Constitution. Who knows how that congress handled patent, copyright, and publishing sort of rules.
Plus you can't eliminate someone doing it just for the advertising value. A book publisher may not *need* congress to approve it, but if they can get that unnecessary Congressional approval, that's a big selling point.
Maybe we ought to have White Evangelicals read the whole Bible in front of witnesses and pass a test demonstrating understanding before they can introduce these types of laws and resolutions.
More territory-marking. More virtue-signaling. More promotion of a book which has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE GOVERNMENT OF THIS NATION. But Stephanie Borowicz wants to do it anyway to show EVERYONE what a Good Little Christian™ she is. REALLY she is!
Hell of it is, if she wanted to show that, she could co-sponsor and work for a bill that insures funding for SNAP or protections for LGBTQ+ youth. Oh, but she COULDN'T do that. It's so unbiblical! 😱
It's the bit about believers meeting Jesus after they die and being seperated into 2 groups: Those believers who fed, clothed and housed the poor as well as visiting the sick and imprisoned and those believers who did not.
Those who did got eternal life in heaven. Those who did not got the express elevator to eternal torment.
Signs as you entered PA back in the 1990s read "Welcome to Pennsylvania: America Starts Here." A presumptuous slap in the face to NJ, DE, NY, and even OH and lowly WV. Pennsyltucky is indeed murica.
And they always ruin Christmas and Thanksgiving because they can't keep their filthy mouths shut, even when they're outnumbered. Or just stick to sports and the weather like everybody else does.
New World was also the name of the cult Nicki Reed joined back in the day on The Young and the Restless. The one who exposed the investigative journalist and almost got her killed.
Other than the KJV, the rest are Satan trying to corrupt the Word of God. God personally guided the hands of the scribes. I think the bible was written in English and then translated into Hebrew and Latin.
(Other than the last sentence, I actually heard that said when I was growing up)
"Reason is a whore, the greatest enemy that faith has; it never comes to the aid of spiritual things, but more frequently than not struggles against the divine Word, treating with contempt all that emanates from God."
We had a Day of the Dali Lama once. Streets were shut down, you couldn't get anywhere. The way people treated it, you'd think he was the pope or something. ; )
I am for it. Actually, I am for a day of the bible every day, but only with the original meaning of the word bible, which is Greek for book. Let start with May 6th, ASOIAF day and May 11th "On quiet nights" by Till Lindemann.
Jan.1 (usually): The Feast of Fools Day from the Middle Ages. I mean, hell, we've already got our Lord of Misrule, and everything is already upside down and backwards. Let the feasting commence! (Unless you're SNAP, then, oh well too bad.)
It is insane that all these legislators across the country are using Barton as impetus to introduce these idiotic laws. I mean, Barton has been discredited within the Christian community, he doesn’t have any credentials academically or within Christianity to certify his expertise and yet they still use him as an expert. He is a liar and a fraud but he’s the only source these morons give to pressure citizens to give up their constitutionally protected freedom of religion. Sure there may be papers written by others that say these things, but when you investigate them, they all start with Barton’s falsehoods. Just like the same people who believe vaccines cause autism, the only real source for this claim is Wakefield’s retracted paper. But so much time, energy and money has been spent fighting the claims he made with spurious data. Same with Barton.
It’s been said, “repeat a lie often enough and folks will believe it.” But damn, these folks only have to put it out there once and fanatics will take it to their graves as gospel.
Retconning history is the 2020 fundies' version of the 1980s "satanic panic." Nothings' going to stop it, it just has to burn itself out. At least with this 'popular madness of crowds' no parents are getting put in jail on false child molestation charges.
Banning gas stoves in new construction or kooky Christianity shoved down your throat. Which is worse??
I do LOVE my gas stove and will not part with it. This move was unfortunately labeled just for environmental reasons, but really it’s a safety concern as entire buildings have BLOWN UP when there’s a leak.
Several years go I lived in a basement apt. My dishes rattled one day. A minute later I heard fire trucks. Some guy tried lighting his oven and after several tries he succeeded in blowing himself out a window It was one room apts and the building was a total loss. Converting every stove to electric will men huge improvements to electric lines. Electricc heatin homes may well be nearly impossible.
I mean it IS the most densely populated city in the country, no? Maybe all the laws that are applicable to NYC don’t necessarily need to be applied to rural areas…just a thought. I do that sometimes.
I had an electric stove. The oven kept the kitchen far cooler than gas could. The heat was all very well contained in the oven. Gas ovens shed heat horribly. First thing I learned was turning down the heat on a burner meant lifting the pot off the coil to cool it down.
I am glad to hear that Pennsylvania has solved homelessness, unemployment, understaffed and underfunded schools, overflowing prisons, that all roads and bridges are well maintained, and that lawmakers can now waste their time on futilities.
On Infrastructure alone, they're ranked 43rd. I've seen no pictures of Jesus in a hardhat.
"Jesus in a hardhat"
His name is spelled Jézus and he will soon be deported by ICE.
So if they've already done their jobs so well and so splendidly, let's tell them to pack up and go home for the rest of the year and save all that tax money. I don't know what the legislative cost per day is in PA, but in Florida, it was just south of $50,000 per day, IIRC, and that was back in the 90's.
𝑆ℎ𝑒 ℎ𝑎𝑠 𝑎𝑙𝑠𝑜 𝑓𝑎𝑙𝑠𝑒𝑙𝑦 𝑐𝑙𝑎𝑖𝑚𝑒𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 65% "𝑜𝑓 𝑎𝑙𝑙 𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑜𝑢𝑛𝑑𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑑𝑜𝑐𝑢𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑠" 𝑐𝑎𝑚𝑒 "𝑓𝑟𝑜𝑚 𝐽𝑒𝑠𝑢𝑠' 𝑤𝑜𝑟𝑑𝑠 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝐵𝑖𝑏𝑙𝑒."
Well, this may be technically true. You could probably find words like "we", "establish", and "people" in the bible. But in that way 100% of all the founding documents come from the Oxford English Dictionary. Instead of a "Day of the Bible", perhaps a "Day of the Dictionary".
I like the sound of: "Day of the Constitution." Whatcha think? 😁
Well, some of the words and idea were from the Bible. Like initially, when the USA prohibited women from voting and holding office, that was a very biblical idea.
With a significant percentage coming from the Larousse or the Robert.
Avec un pourcentage significatif provenant du Larousse ou du petit Robert.
Quai
Apparently we are playing you at footie on July 5. You people are "mercurial" according to our rugby writers. I wondered if they'd been listening to your various "cactus" statements. 😇
Well if that's the logic, then Hebrew Torah and Koine Greek NT, not so much.
When you consider these religious advocates being content with such things as, inequality, the working poor, insurance companies running health care at the expense of the sick, society being awash with guns, not to mention also their approval of overt violence inflicted on others throughout the world and the US not adhering to international laws around human rights and human dignity. One must look further into the pathology of US society and thinking than simply focusing on 'religion.'
Talk about the need for collective and extensive clinical therapy. 🤔
But just like planet of the apes, "You may no like what you find."
Another xtian violating the commandment about not lying. The Cult of the Cross is incapable of truth telling. But then again, isn't their whole religion (along with its book) based on falsehood after falsehood?
She may not be actively lying about the Aitken bible. She may just be willfully ignorant. She bought into Barton's lies because they fit the narrative her indoctination claims. Then she refuses to even listen to anyone who contradicts her because Jesus.
Willful ignorance and willful omission are not the paths to truth. :)
She does not want the truth. Truth is hard, truth would force her to give up her favorite hate.
Truth is hard, Joe, but listening to the constant deluge of prevarication coming out of the xtian nationalists is even harder.
Religion based on 10 Commandments that should, by their own order, never be broken. Yet, their virulent spew goes on and on and on as they break each and every “commandment” with impunity. Pay attention to what they do, not what they say.
Anyone who contradicts her is Satan's minion.
Imagine being so insecure about your faith that you have to prop it up with lies turned into bad legislation?
The insecurity that comes when you live in a fantasy.
Most of them are actually shitty atheists who decided if there’s no afterlife that life isn’t worth living. They want to take all the rest of us down with them. Zombies
I don't claim them. If they say they're Christians, that's good enough for me.
🤣
Actually, no one needs congressional approval to print a Bible. There isn't much Congress can ban when it comes to publishing. David Barton may as well be calling himself an astronaut rather than a historian. I know of nothing in the Constitution that was taken directly from the Bible. That foundational document never mentions the words Bible, Christianity, and Jesus. It does, however, specifically ban religious tests for holding public office in the United States, and if that isn't church-state separation, then I don't know what is. Nowhere does the Constitution give religion a role to play in governance.
As someone else pointed out, this was pre-Constitution. Who knows how that congress handled patent, copyright, and publishing sort of rules.
Plus you can't eliminate someone doing it just for the advertising value. A book publisher may not *need* congress to approve it, but if they can get that unnecessary Congressional approval, that's a big selling point.
Maybe we ought to have White Evangelicals read the whole Bible in front of witnesses and pass a test demonstrating understanding before they can introduce these types of laws and resolutions.
Ooh! I can think of some passages that I would like them to answer questions about!
Exactly. Something like Jesus’ command about healing the sick and being hospitable to strangers? Or feeding the hungry and sheltering the homeless?
Does anyone know what her legislative/voting record is in those areas?
(On the other hand, don’t waste your time, I can guess.)
Ezekiel 23:20.
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They already proved they are incapable to understand a much shorter text: "The Constitution"
They think that’s one of the books of the bible.
It is part of the DJT bible.
Which tells you he hasn't even opened the one that bears his name. It's the original he wants to use to wipe the "royal" ass.
More territory-marking. More virtue-signaling. More promotion of a book which has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE GOVERNMENT OF THIS NATION. But Stephanie Borowicz wants to do it anyway to show EVERYONE what a Good Little Christian™ she is. REALLY she is!
Hell of it is, if she wanted to show that, she could co-sponsor and work for a bill that insures funding for SNAP or protections for LGBTQ+ youth. Oh, but she COULDN'T do that. It's so unbiblical! 😱
*cough*Matthew 25:31-46*cough*
Nope, uh-uh, sorry, she don't read that.
Come on... that is that woke Jeebus - the one Rethuglican Jeebus is getting rid of.
More like that part wasn’t read to her during services. You really think she cracks that book open to read?!
More like that part wasn’t read to her during services. You really think she cracks that book open to read?!
I skipped endoctrinement classes. What does it say ?
It's the bit about believers meeting Jesus after they die and being seperated into 2 groups: Those believers who fed, clothed and housed the poor as well as visiting the sick and imprisoned and those believers who did not.
Those who did got eternal life in heaven. Those who did not got the express elevator to eternal torment.
Thankyou.
Glad to do it. Recognized that scripture in a 💓beat.
They don’t call you Nogodzpedia for nothing …
Hope you’re doing well?
:-)
😮
The elevator Muzak alone is worth the trip.
It's a stairway to heaven (talk about stacking the deck, he could have given me working knees) and a highway to hell (I can't drive 55).
Are you a sheep or a goat?
A tree.
What kind of tree? I'm a river birch.
The larch. The…Larch.
A pine.
Can I be an alpaca?
You can be a llama.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120917/
Pennsyltucky is ranked 41st Overall as Best State To Live In. What good has the bible ever done them?
Apols, I can’t link at the moment, otherwise I’d post a Monty Python clip: What have the Romans done for us
:-)
😀This one?
youtu.be/Qc7HmhrgTuQ
Yes, that one. Thankyou for posting it.
Signs as you entered PA back in the 1990s read "Welcome to Pennsylvania: America Starts Here." A presumptuous slap in the face to NJ, DE, NY, and even OH and lowly WV. Pennsyltucky is indeed murica.
My BIL is from Pennsyltucky. He's a Nazi asshole. 'Nuff said.
And they always ruin Christmas and Thanksgiving because they can't keep their filthy mouths shut, even when they're outnumbered. Or just stick to sports and the weather like everybody else does.
Condolences to your sister.
Dear Miss Manners;
Under what circumstances is it socially acceptable to give someone a ball gag for Christmas/birthday/other occasion?
-Stressed and frustrated in Pennsyltucky.
Love it!!
Someone ought to ask these clowns which bible they plan on promoting.
There are over 450 known versions of the Bible in English alone. Here are some of the most recognized versions:
King James Version (KJV)
New International Version (NIV)
English Standard Version (ESV)
New Living Translation (NLT)
New King James Version (NKJV)
The Message (MSG)
American Standard Version (ASV)
Good News Translation (GNT)
New American Standard Bible (NASB)
Revised Standard Version (RSV)
Contemporary English Version (CEV)
New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)
Amplified Bible (AMP)
Christian Standard Bible (CSB)
Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)
New Century Version (NCV)
New English Translation (NET)
New Jerusalem Bible (NJB)
New Life Version (NLV)
New World
The fight over which version is the best has spilt enough blood to float a navy.
She did specifically stated the Aitkin Bible. Whichever translation that is.
New World was also the name of the cult Nicki Reed joined back in the day on The Young and the Restless. The one who exposed the investigative journalist and almost got her killed.
Damn, the weird things I remember sometimes.
The children will simply learn Hebrew, Aramaic, and Koine Greek.
Other than the KJV, the rest are Satan trying to corrupt the Word of God. God personally guided the hands of the scribes. I think the bible was written in English and then translated into Hebrew and Latin.
(Other than the last sentence, I actually heard that said when I was growing up)
Each version is a perversion of the real one. NO idea which is the real one.
Each version is a perversion of the real one. NO idea which is the real one.
If I saw that face of hers walking on the sidewalk toward me, I would immediately cross the street. She radiates evil and stupid.
I hate to think what you would do if you saw me.
How would she feel if the government establishes "The Day of the Jews" or "The Day of the Muslim" or "The Day of the Dali Lama?"
The Day of Baphomet. The Day of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
Or just maybe ... The Day of REASON.
Here's how Christians see Reason:
"Reason is a whore, the greatest enemy that faith has; it never comes to the aid of spiritual things, but more frequently than not struggles against the divine Word, treating with contempt all that emanates from God."
-- Martin Luther
Living in fantasy does strange things to the human brain. Reason is what separates us from the MAGATS.
No, it never did come to the aid of spiritual things, because spiritual things DO NOT EXIST!
At first I thought you were quoting a televangelist or a megachurch preacher. My how things have (not) changed.
Reason treats bullshit with contempt. Hm. Sounds like the appropriate response.
I was suggesting a day to honour pastafarians but you were ahead of me there …
Just seeing this. GMTA 👍
Thankyou, kind sir.
:-)
R'amen
We had a Day of the Dali Lama once. Streets were shut down, you couldn't get anywhere. The way people treated it, you'd think he was the pope or something. ; )
How about Dia De La Muertra instead?
Day of the Jehovah's Witnesses. Watch SBC heads explode.
Two-bit Morticia knock-off says what?
Morticia has class. Something this meddlesome biddy doesn’t.
And she is a knitter 😁
When I get back to France, we will have to meet up and knit together.
C'est quand tu veux.
Meddlesome biddy. True, but you are too kind.
Half a bit, maybe.
I am for it. Actually, I am for a day of the bible every day, but only with the original meaning of the word bible, which is Greek for book. Let start with May 6th, ASOIAF day and May 11th "On quiet nights" by Till Lindemann.
16th. June: Bloomsday: already established in Dublin.
13th. June: Dalloway Day: not yet established.
Any more?
April 2, Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Day?
April Fool's day, The art of the deal and drumpster's endorsed babble.
Jan.1 (usually): The Feast of Fools Day from the Middle Ages. I mean, hell, we've already got our Lord of Misrule, and everything is already upside down and backwards. Let the feasting commence! (Unless you're SNAP, then, oh well too bad.)
November 23rd. The Day of the Doctor.
"Day of the Bible?" Well, that's only one more day than the Bible is worth. So close, Borowicz. So close.
It is insane that all these legislators across the country are using Barton as impetus to introduce these idiotic laws. I mean, Barton has been discredited within the Christian community, he doesn’t have any credentials academically or within Christianity to certify his expertise and yet they still use him as an expert. He is a liar and a fraud but he’s the only source these morons give to pressure citizens to give up their constitutionally protected freedom of religion. Sure there may be papers written by others that say these things, but when you investigate them, they all start with Barton’s falsehoods. Just like the same people who believe vaccines cause autism, the only real source for this claim is Wakefield’s retracted paper. But so much time, energy and money has been spent fighting the claims he made with spurious data. Same with Barton.
It’s been said, “repeat a lie often enough and folks will believe it.” But damn, these folks only have to put it out there once and fanatics will take it to their graves as gospel.
Retconning history is the 2020 fundies' version of the 1980s "satanic panic." Nothings' going to stop it, it just has to burn itself out. At least with this 'popular madness of crowds' no parents are getting put in jail on false child molestation charges.
Yet.
Congressional Chaplains? We have Congressional Chaplains? JFC!
Yes. Congressional chaplains are written in the Constitution.
https://chaplain.house.gov/chaplaincy/history.html
Banning gas stoves in new construction or kooky Christianity shoved down your throat. Which is worse??
I do LOVE my gas stove and will not part with it. This move was unfortunately labeled just for environmental reasons, but really it’s a safety concern as entire buildings have BLOWN UP when there’s a leak.
Several years go I lived in a basement apt. My dishes rattled one day. A minute later I heard fire trucks. Some guy tried lighting his oven and after several tries he succeeded in blowing himself out a window It was one room apts and the building was a total loss. Converting every stove to electric will men huge improvements to electric lines. Electricc heatin homes may well be nearly impossible.
I have a vivid image of this fellow getting blown out the window now, thank you 🤣
I love my gas stove and I also love a good wood burning stove to heat a house.
I mean it IS the most densely populated city in the country, no? Maybe all the laws that are applicable to NYC don’t necessarily need to be applied to rural areas…just a thought. I do that sometimes.
Try to flame toast bread* with an electric stove.
* Works only with breads like baguette. For others kinds a pan is better.
You don't have a toaster? Or is something missing here?
I had an electric stove. The oven kept the kitchen far cooler than gas could. The heat was all very well contained in the oven. Gas ovens shed heat horribly. First thing I learned was turning down the heat on a burner meant lifting the pot off the coil to cool it down.
Exactly 🤣