The RCC had the decency to at least launder the money through the church organization before handing big fat wads of money to priests. With Paula, it goes straight to her account.
I wonder about the psychology of someone who, 24/7, begs for money not because they're impoverished but because that's the way they choose to live. The feelings of dependency and insecurity, the lack of any self-worth from a job well done, a paycheck earned. I think her faith must be massively strong....because it's all resting on the sunk cost fallacy. If for even a second she thought she was wrong, can you imagine what it would do to her self-image to realize what she's been doing this whole time?
Welcome to the world of many billionaires. I simply cannot understand this need for more and more and more and more, but then I’m not an empty shell vaguely resembling a human being. But I actually do understand it: like every addiction, there is a massive hole in the center of their being that needs more and more and more to fill it.
Just an observation here. While I would agree it's true that money cannot actually buy happiness, it can buy an exceptionally comfortable misery. If, for whatever reason, someone thinks that happiness is out of reach, well, a comfortable misery might look like a very attractive second choice.
Our brains are not wired to be satisfied with any absolute level of prosperity. Good thing too, or we'd likely still be in the stone age. We are wired to detect relative prosperity. Keeping up with and beating the Joneses. And to mix metaphors, any time you find yourself the biggest fish in the pond, you can move ponds and then feel the urge to become biggest fish in the new pond. So the urge for more never ends. At least for some people.
That's not an addction to money or stuff, but it is the *basis* for addiction. Because your brain isn't wired to detect some absolute value of dopamine or drug either; it's wired to detect relative amounts. So once your day-to-day, walking-around amount is high, you need more to get a bang out of it.
I think for some people, the pursuit of wealth may be an addiction, even as gambling can be an addiction. It also seems to me that, if successful, the wealthy can cover up their addiction with the obvious financial success they enjoy ... which doesn't change the fact that they still feel compelled to get more and More and MORE.
And the US tax system has enabled them to do just that.
Oh don't worry about Paula ever having a crisis of conscience. She has no conscience. It's not something she "won't" do; it's something she is INCAPABLE of doing.
She's a psychopath: psy·cho·path ˈsī-kə-ˌpath. 1. : a person having an egocentric and antisocial personality marked by an extreme lack of remorse for one's actions, a complete absence of empathy for others, and often criminal tendencies."
Psychopaths often are very much aware that they're different from most people, and they view that as a good thing. They see themselves as not burdened with a conscience that impedes lesser persons. Guilt, remorse, principles, ethics, morals, these are all just quaint old-fashioned notions to them. They can try to fake such things if that will get them out of trouble, but it's all just part of the act, part of the grift.
IMO, Paula is one of the MAGA cult leaders trying to turn the United States into a complete Christian theocracy. With all the protections and exemptions it could be sooner than later.
Well, when the first con man heard the first story told of what happens after death was when religious industry was invented. I'm still not fully convinced that religion was invented to con people or to resolve the absurdity of being conscious with universe. Maybe both...
White's act here strikes me as a combination of the old Catholic trip of selling indulgences and plain and simple COERCION. "Give me money or god can't (WON'T) use you." The sad fact is that there are plenty of people out there who will hang on her every word and open their wallets and pocketbooks for her.
♫♪ And the grift goes on ... And the grift goes on ... ♪♫
Next she will prepare an eo for drumpster to doodle on mandating a 10 % tax for the Faith And Religious Coercive Education (replacement of the Département of Education). Of course, it would have nothing to do with the same tax enjoyed by the catholic church for centuries.
Oral was of course named after what his parents should have done that night instead. Also, my reaction would have been "you're gonna die? Oh no how terrible I'm sure I'll be really broken up about it."
I remember it entirely too well. What a shame Yahweh didn't "take him home." Then, too, Yahweh is about as good at keeping promises as Trump is, so ... 😝
That's not the whole story, he actually wanted to take their place. Do you know how much money he would get with animals to sacrifice ? Not counting selling some of the meat later. He had a 12 men harem to feed and clothe after all.
"Ye cannot serve God and mammon" At most, these are inconvenient facts. These things don't matter when there's so much money to be made by fleecing the gullible.
Yes. Their god is a narcissistic mob boss who threatens children unless he's prayed to and then tortures his own son to guilt people into doing what he wants. Delightful. I love to ask them, "okay, but if you were going to choose a god to worship, why THAT one?!"
I see religious faith as socially and culturally acceptable mental illness. The fraud here is absolutely blatant, and yet people will cough up their money. I have no sympathy for them, and no respect for our wider society that views religious faith as a virtue. This is only going to change when we run out of stupid and gullible people, so don't hold your breath.
I do have sympathy for the gullible. They don't know any better and have been indoctrinated so deeply that it is difficult for them to learn. I have nothing but rage and contempt for the grifters who prey upon them. They line their pockets by deceiving good hearted people into thinking they are doing something good when the only good is another yacht for the grifter.
If we're defining Christians to mean Fred Rogers or Jimmy Carter, she's a terrible Christian.
But in the context of most Christian Evangelicals, she is just more open and honest about her motives. Most white Evangelicals are out purely for power and money.
He has stolen a precious artifact to protect his boyfriend, a 600 years old ghost. Now his brother wants the same artifact for his own lover, the sister of the aforementioned ghost (which in that part, the main couple doesn't know yet).
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Ironically, Exodus 23 starts with "“Do not spread false reports."
Or maybe that's not irony, maybe she is so confident in her hucksterism she intentionally chose it to troll her critics.
There are some verses in there about God sending an angel to "you" but the "you" here pretty obviously refers to the OT Jewish tribes reading and writing the book. If that wasn't clear at the beginning, it is by the end, when God says "“I will establish your borders from the Red Sea[a] to the Mediterranean Sea,[b] and from the desert to the Euphrates River." Doesn't exactly sound like the bible belt to me, but then again, I passed geography.
Wanna know what else is in Leviticus? God himself forbidding his followers from mistreating foreigners living among them, telling them to treat foreigners as native-born and that those foreigners are to be loved.
Another bit of scripture found in Leviticus that is cheerfully ignored by the xtians in the reichwing.
“ Paula White-Cain may be a terrible Christian, but she’s a perfect fit for this administration.”
I don’t know how you can say that, Hemant. She’s not a terrible Christian at all. She’s very good at it. She’s just not a very good person.
That only a few Christians of the rabidly fundamentalist type are condemning her for being a woman with authority over men, preaching, speaking up in church, Not to mention being divorced and remarried and therefore adulterous, simply underline the obvious: all of this talk of God, morality, and God‘s desires for a relationship with humans It’s simply crappy human behavior hiding behind “sincere” “religious” “belief”— Multiple quote marks necessary.
She is selling indulgences. She is accumulating treasures on earth. She is demonstrating that God is a good boy and does what she tells him to do. But what she is really doing Is making bank of religious megalomania. She is selling and telling people that they are powerful In this universe, that they are important, that God likes them better than he likes other people, and likes her better than he likes them.
You would think that people would see through the grift, but then they voted for Mango Muskolini, And his promises of power, money, dominion, and revenge.
(Insert massive eyeroll here) for her naked greed, I mean come on! This is the lamest thing I've seen in quite a while. How gullible would you have to be to think she can dispatch an angel (presumably out of her ass?) once the thousand dollar check clears?
I was raised a believer. I went to 13 years of Catholic schools, kindergarten through 12. One summer my mother sent me to Bible classes. I was an altar boy. I was a lector. I prayed to God in quiet churches and chapels. All I ever heard in response was silence. Now I do not believe.
In United Methodist and Lutheran churches, there are two podiums in the front. The pastor's podium is the pulpit. The other one, from which non-clergy read, is called the lectern
I wonder how long before National Geographic online edition (owned by Murdoch) has some faux archaeological claim of discovery of the true cross. They claimed to have found Jesus's tomb, (which, in reality was an ancient basilica, that had been lost in time.) I was appalled they lied so.
I'm pretty sure "History" channel has found more pieces of the true cross than would make a cross.
Heck you could do that without even digging. Just go around to the RCC churches in Europe and you could probably find more cross pieces than there could be cross.
* While Hemant was still on only sky, someone posted about this. The major problem with this tablet is that it can't be dated. No carbon and it was found in some rubble from previous excavations, so trying to know when it was exposed to light for the last time is useless, as is the datation by archaeological layers since it wasn't in one.
Why does anyone want to worship a god who only lavishes his blessings on people who give a woman like her money they likely cannot afford to give away. They would be just as well off if they burnt their money out in a parking lot somewhere.
As an agent of his Wholly Noodliness, I am willing to bestow divine blessings for a small compensatory offering.
You too can be touched by HIS noodly appendage by sending me your credit card number (with expiration date and CVV number) or the routing number on your checking account.
Al dente glory can be yours. Act now. This is a limited time offer.
Modern day "indulgences." There truly is a sucker born every minute.
The RCC had the decency to at least launder the money through the church organization before handing big fat wads of money to priests. With Paula, it goes straight to her account.
I wonder about the psychology of someone who, 24/7, begs for money not because they're impoverished but because that's the way they choose to live. The feelings of dependency and insecurity, the lack of any self-worth from a job well done, a paycheck earned. I think her faith must be massively strong....because it's all resting on the sunk cost fallacy. If for even a second she thought she was wrong, can you imagine what it would do to her self-image to realize what she's been doing this whole time?
The way you write it, it sounds like an addiction, not only for the money but also for the adoration from the masses.
That addiction to money and adoration is what she learned from her God.
Bad but not as much as the abrahamic god third addiction, blood and deaths.
She's a forced-birther and likely supports the death penalty. I think she probably has a bit of that third addiction too...
Death-cultists always do.
"God" is just a front for con artists like her. The Bible is very clear. Matthew 19; 23-24.
Yet one more attention whore, just like Mango Mussolini.
Beat me to it…
Gee, why does that sound familiar? /snark
Welcome to the world of many billionaires. I simply cannot understand this need for more and more and more and more, but then I’m not an empty shell vaguely resembling a human being. But I actually do understand it: like every addiction, there is a massive hole in the center of their being that needs more and more and more to fill it.
Just an observation here. While I would agree it's true that money cannot actually buy happiness, it can buy an exceptionally comfortable misery. If, for whatever reason, someone thinks that happiness is out of reach, well, a comfortable misery might look like a very attractive second choice.
I suspect that might be attractive to someone who likes being miserable. Doesn’t work for me
Our brains are not wired to be satisfied with any absolute level of prosperity. Good thing too, or we'd likely still be in the stone age. We are wired to detect relative prosperity. Keeping up with and beating the Joneses. And to mix metaphors, any time you find yourself the biggest fish in the pond, you can move ponds and then feel the urge to become biggest fish in the new pond. So the urge for more never ends. At least for some people.
That's not an addction to money or stuff, but it is the *basis* for addiction. Because your brain isn't wired to detect some absolute value of dopamine or drug either; it's wired to detect relative amounts. So once your day-to-day, walking-around amount is high, you need more to get a bang out of it.
I think for some people, the pursuit of wealth may be an addiction, even as gambling can be an addiction. It also seems to me that, if successful, the wealthy can cover up their addiction with the obvious financial success they enjoy ... which doesn't change the fact that they still feel compelled to get more and More and MORE.
And the US tax system has enabled them to do just that.
At least for some people. Precisely my point.
Oh don't worry about Paula ever having a crisis of conscience. She has no conscience. It's not something she "won't" do; it's something she is INCAPABLE of doing.
She's a psychopath: psy·cho·path ˈsī-kə-ˌpath. 1. : a person having an egocentric and antisocial personality marked by an extreme lack of remorse for one's actions, a complete absence of empathy for others, and often criminal tendencies."
Psychopaths often are very much aware that they're different from most people, and they view that as a good thing. They see themselves as not burdened with a conscience that impedes lesser persons. Guilt, remorse, principles, ethics, morals, these are all just quaint old-fashioned notions to them. They can try to fake such things if that will get them out of trouble, but it's all just part of the act, part of the grift.
IMO, Paula is one of the MAGA cult leaders trying to turn the United States into a complete Christian theocracy. With all the protections and exemptions it could be sooner than later.
Tax the churches!!!
In God We Trust?
That's called delusional imagination driven by hate & ignorance.
Religion was born when the first con man met the first fool.
Well, when the first con man heard the first story told of what happens after death was when religious industry was invented. I'm still not fully convinced that religion was invented to con people or to resolve the absurdity of being conscious with universe. Maybe both...
Religion was invented to control the masses.
White's act here strikes me as a combination of the old Catholic trip of selling indulgences and plain and simple COERCION. "Give me money or god can't (WON'T) use you." The sad fact is that there are plenty of people out there who will hang on her every word and open their wallets and pocketbooks for her.
♫♪ And the grift goes on ... And the grift goes on ... ♪♫
It's been working to line pockets for millennia. Why wouldn't people like White keep up it up?
Next she will prepare an eo for drumpster to doodle on mandating a 10 % tax for the Faith And Religious Coercive Education (replacement of the Département of Education). Of course, it would have nothing to do with the same tax enjoyed by the catholic church for centuries.
Sounds about right. 😝
There are those of us who probably remember Oral Robert's "contribute or I'm gonna die" scam.
Oral was of course named after what his parents should have done that night instead. Also, my reaction would have been "you're gonna die? Oh no how terrible I'm sure I'll be really broken up about it."
I would have said "see ya".
I remember it entirely too well. What a shame Yahweh didn't "take him home." Then, too, Yahweh is about as good at keeping promises as Trump is, so ... 😝
The grifters in 'Hustle' had style ....
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=hustle+bbc+full+episodes
Great show!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzEU2WqhkWk
Isn't the blonde the guy whose girlfriend turned into a paving stone?
I don’t know. Apologies
𝘋𝘰𝘤𝘵𝘰𝘳 𝘞𝘩𝘰 s02e10 - 𝘓𝘰𝘷𝘦 & 𝘔𝘰𝘯𝘴𝘵𝘦𝘳𝘴
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_%26_Monsters_(Doctor_Who)#Plot
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BN2E4MDQ4ZTctYWRjNy00ZjFiLTgyOGEtMzY3MmEwNDkxODg3XkEyXkFqcGc@._V1_QL75_UX655.5_.jpg
Didn't Jesus overturn the tables of the moneymen in the temple and then drive them out with a whip?
That's not the whole story, he actually wanted to take their place. Do you know how much money he would get with animals to sacrifice ? Not counting selling some of the meat later. He had a 12 men harem to feed and clothe after all.
🤣🤣🤣
https://ibb.co/xtJvbkJV
White didn't cherry-pick that particular verse.
That was some other guy. He’s not important.
That was what I just wrote, apologies, I should have read more of the comments before blurting out my comments.
How will you ever forgive me?
The money changers provided a useful service. The coins tithed (?) to the church had to be pure, not alloys.
"Ye cannot serve God and mammon" At most, these are inconvenient facts. These things don't matter when there's so much money to be made by fleecing the gullible.
𝐼𝑓 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑑𝑜𝑛’𝑡 𝑠𝑒𝑛𝑑 ℎ𝑒𝑟 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑚𝑜𝑛𝑒𝑦, “𝐺𝑜𝑑 𝑐𝑎𝑛'𝑡 𝑢𝑠𝑒 𝑦𝑜𝑢.”
So, God's a mob boss? "Nice life you got here, it would be a shame if God didn't use it."
Yes. Their god is a narcissistic mob boss who threatens children unless he's prayed to and then tortures his own son to guilt people into doing what he wants. Delightful. I love to ask them, "okay, but if you were going to choose a god to worship, why THAT one?!"
I see religious faith as socially and culturally acceptable mental illness. The fraud here is absolutely blatant, and yet people will cough up their money. I have no sympathy for them, and no respect for our wider society that views religious faith as a virtue. This is only going to change when we run out of stupid and gullible people, so don't hold your breath.
I do have sympathy for the gullible. They don't know any better and have been indoctrinated so deeply that it is difficult for them to learn. I have nothing but rage and contempt for the grifters who prey upon them. They line their pockets by deceiving good hearted people into thinking they are doing something good when the only good is another yacht for the grifter.
Point taken. I don't like seeing the vulnerable exploited either.
James O'Brien has got a saying 'contempt for the conmen, compassion for the conned'.
(He first phrased it in relation to Brexit, but it has got a wider application)
no excuses for gullible and uniformed
If we're defining Christians to mean Fred Rogers or Jimmy Carter, she's a terrible Christian.
But in the context of most Christian Evangelicals, she is just more open and honest about her motives. Most white Evangelicals are out purely for power and money.
I appreciate that it might be a tad controversial, but I actually .... prefer .... Jimmy ..... to this lady?
A considerable portion of the human population of this planet would be preferable to "this lady."
Long past time to rebrand Christianity as Wewantyourmoney. Truth in advertising, after all. It even has the same amount of syllables.
Servi chaud 😁
https://ibb.co/2YK04v08
Would love to know what he’s saying. :)
He has stolen a precious artifact to protect his boyfriend, a 600 years old ghost. Now his brother wants the same artifact for his own lover, the sister of the aforementioned ghost (which in that part, the main couple doesn't know yet).
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Manhua Pixiu's eatery/bistro.
Merci. :)
Pas d'quoi, gros.
Reminds me of Skippy and his various scams .....
You write as if you know of the merry band of pirates?
For those who don't know, more info is here:
https://expeditionary-force-by-craig-alanson.fandom.com/wiki/Expeditionary_Force_by_Craig_Alanson_Wiki
But basically, Skippy is a character in a series of books. The books are entertaining, especially the audiobooks. Skippy is an ars*hole, though.
I only know "Skippy le kangourou"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skippy_the_Bush_Kangaroo
Does this help?
https://www.audible.com/series/Expeditionary-Force-Audiobooks/B01N9CUGHG?ref_pageloadid=not_applicable&pf_rd_p=83218cca-c308-412f-bfcf-90198b687a2f&pf_rd_r=RP7V13V5657T9W26T7TP&plink=bBcoBLtRxIwDCvZ0&pageLoadId=EkT18lHs8rlICp1t&creativeId=0d6f6720-f41c-457e-a42b-8c8dceb62f2c&ref=a_search_c3_lSeries_1_1_1
Yes and no, Amazon redirected me on the French main page 🤣
They were trying to divert me to the co.uk site but I insisted that I wanted to go to .com.
Can you get to the uk site? Then search for 'Craig Alanson' (the author), the title of the series is 'Expeditionary Force' and the reader is RC Bray.
The explanation of the story is a bit naff, but trust me, it is really entertaining!
𝐴𝑐𝑐𝑜𝑟𝑑𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑡𝑜 𝐸𝑥𝑜𝑑𝑢𝑠 23, 𝐺𝑜𝑑 𝑤𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑎𝑠𝑠𝑖𝑔𝑛 𝑎𝑛 𝑎𝑛𝑔𝑒𝑙 𝑡𝑜 𝑦𝑜𝑢.
Ironically, Exodus 23 starts with "“Do not spread false reports."
Or maybe that's not irony, maybe she is so confident in her hucksterism she intentionally chose it to troll her critics.
There are some verses in there about God sending an angel to "you" but the "you" here pretty obviously refers to the OT Jewish tribes reading and writing the book. If that wasn't clear at the beginning, it is by the end, when God says "“I will establish your borders from the Red Sea[a] to the Mediterranean Sea,[b] and from the desert to the Euphrates River." Doesn't exactly sound like the bible belt to me, but then again, I passed geography.
"But, Paula, shouldn't you be more concerned that God will judge you for lying to the faithful?"
Paula: "Fuck 'em if they can't take a joke."
Does Paula White not know that she is taking the name of her god in vain, using his name to enrich herself?
I do believe there's a commandment forbidding that.
Is it in leviticus ? If not, it doesn't count.
Wanna know what else is in Leviticus? God himself forbidding his followers from mistreating foreigners living among them, telling them to treat foreigners as native-born and that those foreigners are to be loved.
Another bit of scripture found in Leviticus that is cheerfully ignored by the xtians in the reichwing.
Same shit, different day.
“ Paula White-Cain may be a terrible Christian, but she’s a perfect fit for this administration.”
I don’t know how you can say that, Hemant. She’s not a terrible Christian at all. She’s very good at it. She’s just not a very good person.
That only a few Christians of the rabidly fundamentalist type are condemning her for being a woman with authority over men, preaching, speaking up in church, Not to mention being divorced and remarried and therefore adulterous, simply underline the obvious: all of this talk of God, morality, and God‘s desires for a relationship with humans It’s simply crappy human behavior hiding behind “sincere” “religious” “belief”— Multiple quote marks necessary.
She is selling indulgences. She is accumulating treasures on earth. She is demonstrating that God is a good boy and does what she tells him to do. But what she is really doing Is making bank of religious megalomania. She is selling and telling people that they are powerful In this universe, that they are important, that God likes them better than he likes other people, and likes her better than he likes them.
You would think that people would see through the grift, but then they voted for Mango Muskolini, And his promises of power, money, dominion, and revenge.
ALL monotheist gods are totalitarian dictators. ALL require total obedience. OR ELSE!
(Insert massive eyeroll here) for her naked greed, I mean come on! This is the lamest thing I've seen in quite a while. How gullible would you have to be to think she can dispatch an angel (presumably out of her ass?) once the thousand dollar check clears?
As gullible as your basic, run-of-the-mill Christian.
Touche’
I was raised a believer. I went to 13 years of Catholic schools, kindergarten through 12. One summer my mother sent me to Bible classes. I was an altar boy. I was a lector. I prayed to God in quiet churches and chapels. All I ever heard in response was silence. Now I do not believe.
What is a “lector”?
In the RCC, a lector is a person who is not clergy that gets chosen to read from the bible on the altar during Mass.
In United Methodist and Lutheran churches, there are two podiums in the front. The pastor's podium is the pulpit. The other one, from which non-clergy read, is called the lectern
Ah, thank you!
A lector also helps handing out communion during the service.
Geez, in the old days you'd at least get a piece of the OneTrueCross™️.
I wonder how long before National Geographic online edition (owned by Murdoch) has some faux archaeological claim of discovery of the true cross. They claimed to have found Jesus's tomb, (which, in reality was an ancient basilica, that had been lost in time.) I was appalled they lied so.
I'm pretty sure "History" channel has found more pieces of the true cross than would make a cross.
Heck you could do that without even digging. Just go around to the RCC churches in Europe and you could probably find more cross pieces than there could be cross.
Absolutely! I’m just waiting for that scam to come back into the public!
I remember when archaeologists found a maybe fisherman's house from the time Jesus allegedly lived in Capharnaum "Peter's house has been discovered !"
*Headdesk*
The Peter/Simon/Cephas that was beheaded by Nero or the Peter/Simon/Cephas that was crucified upside down? They're the same guy. :)
Schrodinger petrus, he both was and wasn't a roman citizen.
OMFG! They are so desperate!
You have no idea (or maybe, yes)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Ebal_curse_tablet*
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talpiot_Tomb
*Sigh*
* While Hemant was still on only sky, someone posted about this. The major problem with this tablet is that it can't be dated. No carbon and it was found in some rubble from previous excavations, so trying to know when it was exposed to light for the last time is useless, as is the datation by archaeological layers since it wasn't in one.
There were so many "pieces of the true cross" that they could have built a cathedral out of them with tons left over. 🙄🤑
They could've rebuilt Notre Dame de Paris with 'em.
There are no words. Does God know she's pimping Him out?
Why does anyone want to worship a god who only lavishes his blessings on people who give a woman like her money they likely cannot afford to give away. They would be just as well off if they burnt their money out in a parking lot somewhere.
Given the fact he doesn't exist, then no. ;)
As an agent of his Wholly Noodliness, I am willing to bestow divine blessings for a small compensatory offering.
You too can be touched by HIS noodly appendage by sending me your credit card number (with expiration date and CVV number) or the routing number on your checking account.
Al dente glory can be yours. Act now. This is a limited time offer.
https://ibb.co/F4g1Dtm3
I am in !
1298 2387 3476 4565
Expiration date December -07
CVV number 666
Bless you my child. Our lord is the Alfredo, the Marinara and the Carbonara.
"Monster grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the strength to change the things I can, and the Noodle to know the difference."
RAmen
What did you do with Arrabiata ! Heathen !
Arrabiata is part of the Apocrypha written by Chef Boyardee.
*Cancel her card*
😝
This has made laugh out loud, I think the neighbours must think I've gone doolally!
Thank you.
R'amen!
FB WAS NOT HAPPY WITH THE IMAGE...