I will classify this under humor. Not funny for the people he hurt, but in the context of Christian hypocrisy. At least he wasn't arrested for molesting children.
Sorry, but women don’t start accusing men of domestic violence until they have no way to hide it, like they end up in a hospital. Just like rape and SA, the accusations for DV are sorely underreported. Women constantly excuse their abuse, or don’t recognize it, especially those who were raised or live in religious households, until they’re nearly dead.
Reading this I see that four times he was an immediate threat to her life, but she was likely battered more often than that, possible every day.
False accusations are also similar to rape, non existent but since the system is setup to protect the abusers, and every response to abuse that might be perceived as violent is written off as, “she gave as she got, it was mutual violence, blah, blah, blah.” I’ve seen it played out in public with celebrities (yes that one and I’m not arguing about it, he abused her and she responded with the fight response, she’s still the victim) and with family and friends.
Well if he's lying about being divorced, then it's kinda crazy that she's still married to him. Florida is a no-fault state which doesn't require any prior separation to file the paperwork, so she doesn't have to level charges against him or prove any crime in court or even move out to file the paperwork and walk free. Maybe she still loves him? Or maybe there's an economic motivation? Whatever the reason, it is kinda crazy she hasn't already walked away.
You’re right that she could probably easily divorce him legally. The problem is that she is suffering abuse, from a religious abuser, there might be other social aspects and even abusive aspects as to her deciding not to divorce. It might be that he’s threatened her life if she does (extremely common and leaving/divorce is the most dangerous time for an abuse victim) and she knows he would. She might be afraid of the consequences from her church community if she does divorce him, losing the only people in her life is devastating. But we don’t know. I’m just saying that the accusations are more likely more credible than his denials.
Well, since he didn't buy them from their fathers, or take them as captives in battle, or promote a regular slave to sex slave, he wasn't doing biblical marriage correctly.
Whenever I meet someone who proclaims that they met Jesus and he changed their life I always want to ask whether they have a problem with booze, drugs, sex, gambling, or a combination of those.
The HBO show "Florida Man" is pretty entertaining. The first season was better than the second, but both are good. Total of 12 half-hour episodes featuring interviews with the actual Florida Man (and woman) plus OTT funny reenactments featuring big stars.
I wouldn't binge it, but one or two at a time is a wonderful pick me up.
An obsession with monitoring other tribemates' sex lives and social status is something we share with baboons, chimps, and monkeys. Thus, literally older than humanity (and even hominids!) itself.
Oh it's true, some of my friends moved there for that reason, he used to own a club in New Jersey. He was too kind, and considerate, though, they are mostly selfish guys, who won't wear a condom, thus the high prevalence of STDs.
"The Villages gained notoriety as the "STD Capital of America" after a WFTV news report stated, "One physician at the Women's Center of The Villages said even in her years working in Miami, she has never seen so many cases."
Guys like Williams is why the word, "hypocrite" was invented. His story reeks of: "Do as I SAY, not as I DO," never mind not as I WRITE, and the smell isn't exactly Chanel No. 5. He's in the court system now, and I rather imagine he will be doing a spell in a 6 x 9 apartment for a few years.
Have you ever smelled Chanel No. 5? Notoriously terrible perfume. I do not understand how it became so iconic. Like rancid unwashed clothing moldering in a flooded basement. Yuck.
Funny how he’s actually being held accountable for getting over on the government (multiple marriage contracts) but not for the domestic violence. We just don’t ever want to believe women.
Even though I wish he was being punished more for the dv than the bigamy, at least he’s getting punished.
As for his book, Christian leaders who are men are always so far out of touch with their humanity that they should never be giving advice on shit. Let alone keeping your marriage. I wonder what his advice is (hardly, I’m sure I know it already). I’m going to put down a large sum betting it isn’t anything remotely close to what women say we want or need, and it might actually look a lot like the Pearls’ child rearing tome, “Train Up A Child.” It’s giving practical tips for abuse without getting caught.
I’m pretty salty lately. My cynicism is winning. Aside from what’s going on in the dumpster fire we call the USA, my mother has been hospitalized for a blood clot in her heart, luckily she’s in the country’s premier heart hospital system. I’m still trying to stay sane with performing in plays, but the happiness from that only lasts so long.
I live next door to The Villages and even if the stories of things like residents hanging different colored loofah’s on their golf carts (main mode of transportation) to denote which kink or sex role they are about… I am sure him hearing such rumors was the attraction.
Just watched the Waj and Monte and Tim Whitaker interview on here substack and it just reinforces how we keep getting this wrong thinking any of this is a gotcha for a Christian Nationalist cult that views women as property. If anything he probably will get more kudos from the men (and the women born looking up to men like this).
Yeah, but I was imagining the particularly kinky ones having so many they line up like a whole banner that goes all the way around the roof of the cart. Like the trim in the taxis that are overly decorated in old movies. Like the ghost of Christmas past in Scrooged. The trim with the little dangly balls around the windshield.
See NOGODZ's post below. David and Solomon, at minimum, were in on the fun back when, and likely LOTS of others who didn't get mentioned in the magic book.
Create rules which force humans to behave in unnatural ways and then wonder why these rules are broken. Of course the “rules” are one sided and specific to the women in such scenarios (fine print). Surprise, a bunch of miserable joyless people acting out once again! You cannot force people to be “good” they have to choose it in their own time.
It's all working as intended, though! First you indoctrinate them to believe they have to follow a set of divinely-imposed impossible-to-follow rules, then you teach them that they can only confess their inevitable sins to you and you alone, and they have to keep tithing for the privilege of receiving their next guilt trip. Infinite money hack unlocked!
I will classify this under humor. Not funny for the people he hurt, but in the context of Christian hypocrisy. At least he wasn't arrested for molesting children.
Yet.
Domestic violence is bad enough
There are only so many hours in a day, and he's been very busy bigamizing.
"In May of 2024, Williams posted about his “ex wife,” saying she had accused him of “domestic violence 4 different times.” He denied everything."
Women, never forget, his ex wasn't crazy.
She wasn’t crazy!
Sorry, but women don’t start accusing men of domestic violence until they have no way to hide it, like they end up in a hospital. Just like rape and SA, the accusations for DV are sorely underreported. Women constantly excuse their abuse, or don’t recognize it, especially those who were raised or live in religious households, until they’re nearly dead.
Reading this I see that four times he was an immediate threat to her life, but she was likely battered more often than that, possible every day.
False accusations are also similar to rape, non existent but since the system is setup to protect the abusers, and every response to abuse that might be perceived as violent is written off as, “she gave as she got, it was mutual violence, blah, blah, blah.” I’ve seen it played out in public with celebrities (yes that one and I’m not arguing about it, he abused her and she responded with the fight response, she’s still the victim) and with family and friends.
Well if he's lying about being divorced, then it's kinda crazy that she's still married to him. Florida is a no-fault state which doesn't require any prior separation to file the paperwork, so she doesn't have to level charges against him or prove any crime in court or even move out to file the paperwork and walk free. Maybe she still loves him? Or maybe there's an economic motivation? Whatever the reason, it is kinda crazy she hasn't already walked away.
You’re right that she could probably easily divorce him legally. The problem is that she is suffering abuse, from a religious abuser, there might be other social aspects and even abusive aspects as to her deciding not to divorce. It might be that he’s threatened her life if she does (extremely common and leaving/divorce is the most dangerous time for an abuse victim) and she knows he would. She might be afraid of the consequences from her church community if she does divorce him, losing the only people in her life is devastating. But we don’t know. I’m just saying that the accusations are more likely more credible than his denials.
Sounds like she's pretty savvy about his behavior.
Sorry he got the dogs; he probably beats them too.
𝑇ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑒’𝑠 𝐶ℎ𝑟𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑎𝑛 ℎ𝑦𝑝𝑜𝑐𝑟𝑖𝑠𝑦. 𝐴𝑛𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑒’𝑠 𝑤𝑟𝑖𝑡𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑎 𝑏𝑜𝑜𝑘 𝑎𝑏𝑜𝑢𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑖𝑚𝑝𝑜𝑟𝑡𝑎𝑛𝑐𝑒 𝑜𝑓 𝑏𝑖𝑏𝑙𝑖𝑐𝑎𝑙 𝑚𝑎𝑟𝑟𝑖𝑎𝑔𝑒 𝑜𝑛𝑙𝑦 𝑡𝑜 𝑔𝑒𝑡 𝑎𝑟𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑡𝑒𝑑 𝑏𝑒𝑐𝑎𝑢𝑠𝑒 𝑦𝑜𝑢’𝑟𝑒 𝑠𝑒𝑐𝑟𝑒𝑡𝑙𝑦 𝑚𝑎𝑟𝑟𝑖𝑒𝑑 𝑡𝑜 𝑚𝑢𝑙𝑡𝑖𝑝𝑙𝑒 𝑝𝑒𝑜𝑝𝑙𝑒.
Well, since he didn't buy them from their fathers, or take them as captives in battle, or promote a regular slave to sex slave, he wasn't doing biblical marriage correctly.
Don't forget rapists who must pay 50 silver shekels to the father. On top of that? The father's daughter can never divorce her rapist.
The DV is biblical though.
I fail to see how that's a promotion.
It's always the ones you most expect, ain't it?
The holier-than-thous. They ain't.
Very loud, very judgmental of everyone else, and very likely to be preaching bullshit. Yep, 'em are da ones.
Whenever I meet someone who proclaims that they met Jesus and he changed their life I always want to ask whether they have a problem with booze, drugs, sex, gambling, or a combination of those.
What's the problem with bigamy from a biblical view?
King David had at least 8 wifes. Other kings had more.
One man, one woman is a modern view of a marriage.
Solomon. 700 wives plus 300 concubines. And he was called "wise." *eyeroll* :)
1000 mothers in law.
To be fair, some of the wives were also probably daughters.
It's like a car wreck or minor crime; *lying* about not being involved is worse than being involved.
"Florida Man" explains just as much about him as the "christian" brand.
Agreed, https://floridaman.com/, truly amazing!
The HBO show "Florida Man" is pretty entertaining. The first season was better than the second, but both are good. Total of 12 half-hour episodes featuring interviews with the actual Florida Man (and woman) plus OTT funny reenactments featuring big stars.
I wouldn't binge it, but one or two at a time is a wonderful pick me up.
Never take marriage advice from a grown adult who believes in fairy tales.
👆🎯
It never ceases to amaze me when people try to tell other people how they *should* be doing anything.
Especially when they AREN'T doing it!
He was trying to follow the well known Christian maxim of "rules for thee, not for me" that has always applied to the ones at the top.
An obsession with monitoring other tribemates' sex lives and social status is something we share with baboons, chimps, and monkeys. Thus, literally older than humanity (and even hominids!) itself.
Hugs.
>> a famously conservative retirement community, calling it a place for “swingers” and “unusually high rates of sexually transmitted diseases.”
It's going to be a long while before I find a line that I treasure as much as that.
I live near multiple retirement towns in Arizona. It ain’t just the Villages; this is all common knowledge.
That said, it is a lovely use of phrasing and quotation marks. 😆
Oh it's true, some of my friends moved there for that reason, he used to own a club in New Jersey. He was too kind, and considerate, though, they are mostly selfish guys, who won't wear a condom, thus the high prevalence of STDs.
"The Villages gained notoriety as the "STD Capital of America" after a WFTV news report stated, "One physician at the Women's Center of The Villages said even in her years working in Miami, she has never seen so many cases."
Guys like Williams is why the word, "hypocrite" was invented. His story reeks of: "Do as I SAY, not as I DO," never mind not as I WRITE, and the smell isn't exactly Chanel No. 5. He's in the court system now, and I rather imagine he will be doing a spell in a 6 x 9 apartment for a few years.
Gee, ain't Christianity SWELL? 😝
Have you ever smelled Chanel No. 5? Notoriously terrible perfume. I do not understand how it became so iconic. Like rancid unwashed clothing moldering in a flooded basement. Yuck.
Still better than this.
Thank you! It smells like pesticide to me, rank chemical funk. My spouse calls it "bug spray".
Funny how he’s actually being held accountable for getting over on the government (multiple marriage contracts) but not for the domestic violence. We just don’t ever want to believe women.
Even though I wish he was being punished more for the dv than the bigamy, at least he’s getting punished.
As for his book, Christian leaders who are men are always so far out of touch with their humanity that they should never be giving advice on shit. Let alone keeping your marriage. I wonder what his advice is (hardly, I’m sure I know it already). I’m going to put down a large sum betting it isn’t anything remotely close to what women say we want or need, and it might actually look a lot like the Pearls’ child rearing tome, “Train Up A Child.” It’s giving practical tips for abuse without getting caught.
I’m pretty salty lately. My cynicism is winning. Aside from what’s going on in the dumpster fire we call the USA, my mother has been hospitalized for a blood clot in her heart, luckily she’s in the country’s premier heart hospital system. I’m still trying to stay sane with performing in plays, but the happiness from that only lasts so long.
We all love you. Please don’t forget that.
ETA: Forgot to mention - I agree with what you said.
What Len said.
"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster.”
- Nietzsche
Two each his own.
I see what you did there!
I live next door to The Villages and even if the stories of things like residents hanging different colored loofah’s on their golf carts (main mode of transportation) to denote which kink or sex role they are about… I am sure him hearing such rumors was the attraction.
Just watched the Waj and Monte and Tim Whitaker interview on here substack and it just reinforces how we keep getting this wrong thinking any of this is a gotcha for a Christian Nationalist cult that views women as property. If anything he probably will get more kudos from the men (and the women born looking up to men like this).
Loofahs? Well... that's 𝘰𝘯𝘦 way to bring back the handkerchief code, I guess.
I wonder if they’re dangling from the roof like an oversized fringe like in the stereotypical old time taxis? You know the ones I’m talking about.
They hang them on the golf carts.
Yeah, but I was imagining the particularly kinky ones having so many they line up like a whole banner that goes all the way around the roof of the cart. Like the trim in the taxis that are overly decorated in old movies. Like the ghost of Christmas past in Scrooged. The trim with the little dangly balls around the windshield.
Oh ha!
Wait, isn't having multiple wives supported by the Bible? Some king had multiple wives and God said it was OK.
See NOGODZ's post below. David and Solomon, at minimum, were in on the fun back when, and likely LOTS of others who didn't get mentioned in the magic book.
Create rules which force humans to behave in unnatural ways and then wonder why these rules are broken. Of course the “rules” are one sided and specific to the women in such scenarios (fine print). Surprise, a bunch of miserable joyless people acting out once again! You cannot force people to be “good” they have to choose it in their own time.
𝐼 𝑔𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑚 𝑠𝑡𝑎𝑡𝑢𝑡𝑒𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑤𝑒𝑟𝑒 𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑔𝑜𝑜𝑑 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑜𝑟𝑑𝑖𝑛𝑎𝑛𝑐𝑒𝑠 𝑏𝑦 𝑤ℎ𝑖𝑐ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑦 𝑐𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑 𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑙𝑖𝑣𝑒. 𝐼 𝑑𝑒𝑓𝑖𝑙𝑒𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑚 𝑡ℎ𝑟𝑜𝑢𝑔ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑖𝑟 𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑦 𝑔𝑖𝑓𝑡𝑠, 𝑖𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑖𝑟 𝑜𝑓𝑓𝑒𝑟𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑢𝑝 𝑎𝑙𝑙 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑖𝑟 𝑓𝑖𝑟𝑠𝑡𝑏𝑜𝑟𝑛, 𝑖𝑛 𝑜𝑟𝑑𝑒𝑟 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝐼 𝑚𝑖𝑔ℎ𝑡 ℎ𝑜𝑟𝑟𝑖𝑓𝑦 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑚, 𝑠𝑜 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑦 𝑚𝑖𝑔ℎ𝑡 𝑘𝑛𝑜𝑤 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝐼 𝑎𝑚 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝐿𝑂𝑅𝐷.
-- Ezekiel 20:25-26
The "lord" is an asshat, a manipulator and gaslighter. What person in their right mind would worship such a being?
It's all working as intended, though! First you indoctrinate them to believe they have to follow a set of divinely-imposed impossible-to-follow rules, then you teach them that they can only confess their inevitable sins to you and you alone, and they have to keep tithing for the privilege of receiving their next guilt trip. Infinite money hack unlocked!