Imagine seeing this slovenly, unkempt goober and thinking he should give you moral guidance on any issue, especially accusing others of being groomers, all the while he is molesting your children.
I hear what you're saying, but don't be TOO quick to judge by appearances. House Speaker Mike Johnson is probably the most clean-cut, well-groomed man you'll ever meet, and he personally is doing more damage to America than a dozen Silas Sheltons.
Yes, hear what you're saying. Though appearances may be a box to tick it's not the only box where this character & Johnson paradoxical live called Pottersville in which Johnson & Co - past & present - quickly turned into a financial & social class/caste system.
If they aren't pastors, they're coaches. Lived in GA for 23 years and it seemed like ebery month s pastor, youth minister, music minister or coach was getting arrested. They deliberately choose their careers and volunteer work yo gey close to.minors.
Or scout leader. Can't forget the scout leaders. It's like the old quote about bank robbing from Willie Sutton: "Why do these pedos go into ministry, coaching, or scouting? Because that's where the kids are."
Yup. Hence the volunteer eork choices: Llittle League, soccer, gymnastics, scouting. Funniest thing was when the Boy Scouts in ME refused to allow a lesbian mom to lrad a cub scout troop. Who was the least likely petson to be a den leader
I'm gonna stop you there. My kid coaches soccer. My partner coached baseball.
They did/do it because they love the sport and want kids to have a decent outlet and learn what their bodies can do. They learn about teamwork. They learn to lift up other kids.
Neither of them would ever cross a line. They would never think that way.
If there weren't responsible coaches, teachers, etc., the sex offenders would be easy to spot. Apparently it's OK for even registered sex offenders to act as coaches for children. E.g., https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsoWeWJyoEs
I suspect that even when there are laws to protect children from sex offenders, there may not be actual policies, procedures and practices in place to make the laws effective. Something to ask legislators, police, etc., about - and require clear answers...
I s! not saying all coaches. But stats show that paedophiles deliberately choose professions snd volunteer opportunities which give them.access yp children No one is accusing your kid of anything. It was a general statement and the reason why background. checks are done.
pissed off someone who lambasted me in a comment thay can no.longer be deen. I eas never implying that all.people who work eith children and young teens are pedophiles, but stats indicate that many pedophiles intentionally choose careers and volunteer work to get close to kids. I am upset that anyone would think that applying a general truth to a specific individual-: like saying because there are PoC who commit crimes,every PoC must be regarded as probably a criminal..There is however evidence that s good chunk of pedos are in vertain professions which give them greater access to children. This is why if you work in education or childcare,ackground checks are required in most states. Back in 1986,_I ess fingerprinted and my info was run through the F.B.I. database in order to run an after school program.
You daid, "I'm.gonna stop you there." That indicates to.me that you think I wss painting coaches and ministersasd pedos with a broad brush. Most coaches and YM types aren't pedos. Nut !any paedophiles ARR in fields where they have access to children. Sure sounded like you were viewing what I said as impugning your son when O was simply pointing out that sex abusers have to.put themselves om places where they have access.to.kifs.
You know, Joe, the moronic justice system we employ treats child sexual predations like any run of the mill offense. If we can’t get serious about protecting our most precious youth from the predators amongst us, with significant and serious sentencing guidelines, we are lost. Christians, via their predatory “youth ministers,” are actually normalizing pedophilia. I don’t really give a shit if these freaks are fixable or not. They do not deserve a place in our society and need to be exiled to Mar-a-Lardo…or maybe Alligator Alcatraz.
It is a little cult. These guys want to be in the pulpit because they have a deep-seated need to tell other people what to believe and do. They are sick, damaged individuals. Patriarchal, authoritarian... I cannot say enough bad things about them, but certain credulous people are drawn in. Critical thinking is hard work for them and to have a 'friend' who did the hard work for them and can tell them what to believe gives them reassurance. It is also a birds-of-a-feather phenomenon. Authoritarians are most comfortable hanging together so they won't be criticized for their mean and crazed beliefs.
I'm sorry I can't point you directly to the documentaries that I've seen this in, but:
I have seen two different docs now that have talked about research showing the professions that attract societally functional sociopaths. Guess what profession is number two on the list (highly specialized surgeons just eke by them)?
If P-ass-tor Pervo is so worried about what books are in libraries, then have I got a doozy for him. One with a woman who fantasizes about men with penises the sizes of donkeys and ejaculations like stallions.
A book where two virgin daughters get their "righteous" father drunk and have sex with him, both winding up pregnant by him. Keep in mind that this same righteous man previously offered up those 2 virginal daughters to a rape mob in order to protect two male strangers.
A book full of incest. Incest that supposedly populated the world. Twice. A book where Abraham marries his half-sister Sarah, where Isaac marries his cousin Rebecca and where Jacob marries not one but two cousins (Leah and Rachel). Oh, and there's also Amram and Jochebed (Jochebed was Abram's aunt).
That's just the sexual aspect. There is all manner of horrific content in this book that needs to be kept out of the reach of children.
Not read the book. Funnily enough, I've known I did not believe since I was six (took a while longer to have the words for it), and I've read the ENTIRE book. Some of the worst fiction I've ever read, and I've read David Foster Wallace's 'Infinite Jest'.
Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Rebecca, Jacob, Leah, and Rachel? I bet they picked all those biblical names because they were making some sort of satirical point.
I named my daughter "Leah" after a woman who won Jeopardy five times in a row (the limit in 1988) and went on to win the Tournament of Champions. Scripture had nothing to do with it.
An acquaintance of mine named her daughter "Rachel" after Jennifer Anniston's character on "Friends," because she liked the show and thought it was a pretty name.
Don’t you think it’s funny that God murdered everybody on the planet, except for an old drunk and his family? That’s wholesome family entertainment. The Star Wars movies are held up as some sort of moral tale, as if there was any morality in it at all.
You know that this one victim of his isn't the only one. He didn't suddenly just decide to do this. It's likely part of a long term pattern of abuse by him.
So, another white, republican male, christian using his position to sexually prey on children. It's getting to the point where the Venn diagram of white republican males and pedophiles is a circle.
Feed, clothe and house the poor. Visit the sick and imprisoned. These are the things Jesus told his followers to do. They're what Jesus' representatives on Earth should be teaching from the pulpit.
Where in scripture does Jesus tell people to rape every child within sight?
I seem to recall that the xtian messiah had a special punishment for those who caused children who believed in him to "stumble." Something involving millstones.
"Silas Shelton said being gay was a "health risk." All the while, police say he was targeting a little girl who attended his church."
Hemant, you should know the difference by now. Two consenting adults in a SSR are disgusting, while raping or abusing little girls and underage teens is biblical.
"we’re not allowed to talk about the health risk of kids being gay."
It is, only because of bigots like him.
"You take a young man or a young… girl"
Interesting phrasing. Show this opinion of the female gender (only cis, because of course trans people don't exist 🙄).
"And if you are a religious person"
I am, so what ? The world count more religions than the abrahamic ones, and some doesn't confuse hate and love. I know, this concept is too hard to grasp for people like him.
Someone should remind this asshole that underage girls experience far more problematic pregnancies than adult women. The stress on an adult woman's body is significant, but the stress on a young girl whose body is still growing and maturing can be dangerous.
Whenever I think about the lengths those Republican assholes went to, to try to punish the doctor who provided the 10-year old rape victim an abortion, I want to scream.
They also ignore that the science is now finding many of the pregnancy complications stem more from problematic sperm, especially the sperm from older gentlemen, than from the health history of the women. They also have found that the eggs don’t get worse from age, the genetic quality doesn’t change over time, but sperm quality, increases of mutations in sperm, does change as the man ages.
RFK recently tried to say that the young men (18-20something) are less virile than elderly men (teens have less testosterone than 65 year olds blah blah) and that girls are hitting puberty 6 years earlier nowadays. He’s trying to usher in selling our daughters to old men in their tweens and teens to increase the birth rate because that is the optimum mix. Which is the opposite of reality.
What? They tried to punish the one who helped a child to survive a pregnancy without dying or becoming more traumatised than she already was? WTAF? Right now I am a bit pissed because I can't kidnap him and push him into the bonfire on midsummer night at my cousins place.
The tooth fairy? Joni Ernst seems to think there are adults who still believe in the Tooth Fairy, and that's why they all turned on her at her town hall meeting...the Tooth Fairy belief scrambled their brains.
Imagine seeing this slovenly, unkempt goober and thinking he should give you moral guidance on any issue, especially accusing others of being groomers, all the while he is molesting your children.
Xtians are the most gullible people ever.
In my view, it is never a good idea to delegate your thinking to anyone else, especially any member of the clergy.
Seems like all these smarmy fundamentalist pedopastors are perverts and pedos. God indeed.
If I saw him on the street, I would probably try to not get too close to him.
I bet he smells badly.
what a SLOB..I bet he stinks on ice....
I hear what you're saying, but don't be TOO quick to judge by appearances. House Speaker Mike Johnson is probably the most clean-cut, well-groomed man you'll ever meet, and he personally is doing more damage to America than a dozen Silas Sheltons.
Typically I am reluctant to judge anyone by appearance but the common denominator of so many creepy, unkempt pedos seems to be a pattern.
Smarmy
I would cross the street if I ran into Holy Mike. A suit doesn't hide a creep.
Yes, hear what you're saying. Though appearances may be a box to tick it's not the only box where this character & Johnson paradoxical live called Pottersville in which Johnson & Co - past & present - quickly turned into a financial & social class/caste system.
1st class - Big money
2nd class - Johnson & Co
3rd class - workers
4th class - working poor & the poor.
Yeah, but he's gay.
God don't need no first impressions.
If they aren't pastors, they're coaches. Lived in GA for 23 years and it seemed like ebery month s pastor, youth minister, music minister or coach was getting arrested. They deliberately choose their careers and volunteer work yo gey close to.minors.
Or scout leader. Can't forget the scout leaders. It's like the old quote about bank robbing from Willie Sutton: "Why do these pedos go into ministry, coaching, or scouting? Because that's where the kids are."
Yup. Hence the volunteer eork choices: Llittle League, soccer, gymnastics, scouting. Funniest thing was when the Boy Scouts in ME refused to allow a lesbian mom to lrad a cub scout troop. Who was the least likely petson to be a den leader
Then there's Trump owning beauty contests and checking up on the girls before they went on stage. Now why would he do that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyhXSDeU_Oc
I'm gonna stop you there. My kid coaches soccer. My partner coached baseball.
They did/do it because they love the sport and want kids to have a decent outlet and learn what their bodies can do. They learn about teamwork. They learn to lift up other kids.
Neither of them would ever cross a line. They would never think that way.
If there weren't responsible coaches, teachers, etc., the sex offenders would be easy to spot. Apparently it's OK for even registered sex offenders to act as coaches for children. E.g., https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsoWeWJyoEs
Thank you. You gave me a new reason to harangue Guv Ferguson and my pals in the state lege.I did not know that there is no law.
I suspect that even when there are laws to protect children from sex offenders, there may not be actual policies, procedures and practices in place to make the laws effective. Something to ask legislators, police, etc., about - and require clear answers...
Please do so. I was creeped out at having to be fingerprinted and have them and my name run through dex offender lists. But I understood. why.
I s! not saying all coaches. But stats show that paedophiles deliberately choose professions snd volunteer opportunities which give them.access yp children No one is accusing your kid of anything. It was a general statement and the reason why background. checks are done.
Or Republican politicians...
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pissed off someone who lambasted me in a comment thay can no.longer be deen. I eas never implying that all.people who work eith children and young teens are pedophiles, but stats indicate that many pedophiles intentionally choose careers and volunteer work to get close to kids. I am upset that anyone would think that applying a general truth to a specific individual-: like saying because there are PoC who commit crimes,every PoC must be regarded as probably a criminal..There is however evidence that s good chunk of pedos are in vertain professions which give them greater access to children. This is why if you work in education or childcare,ackground checks are required in most states. Back in 1986,_I ess fingerprinted and my info was run through the F.B.I. database in order to run an after school program.
If you mean me, I wasn't at all pissed. My experience is just different.
You daid, "I'm.gonna stop you there." That indicates to.me that you think I wss painting coaches and ministersasd pedos with a broad brush. Most coaches and YM types aren't pedos. Nut !any paedophiles ARR in fields where they have access to children. Sure sounded like you were viewing what I said as impugning your son when O was simply pointing out that sex abusers have to.put themselves om places where they have access.to.kifs.
𝐼𝑡 𝑖𝑠𝑛’𝑡 𝑎 𝑟𝑒𝑙𝑖𝑔𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑚𝑎𝑡𝑡𝑒𝑟… 𝐼𝑡’𝑠 𝑎 ℎ𝑒𝑎𝑙𝑡ℎ 𝑟𝑖𝑠𝑘. 𝐼𝑡’𝑠 𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑎𝑙 ℎ𝑒𝑎𝑙𝑡ℎ.
Says the preacher causing the actual mental health harm by assaulting children.
You know, Joe, the moronic justice system we employ treats child sexual predations like any run of the mill offense. If we can’t get serious about protecting our most precious youth from the predators amongst us, with significant and serious sentencing guidelines, we are lost. Christians, via their predatory “youth ministers,” are actually normalizing pedophilia. I don’t really give a shit if these freaks are fixable or not. They do not deserve a place in our society and need to be exiled to Mar-a-Lardo…or maybe Alligator Alcatraz.
Not fixable (recidivism is high) and I vote for the alligators.
What did those poor reptiles ever do to you?
You misunderstand me. Those reptiles will keep those bastards in line or provide said alligators with a nice meal.
Or food poisoning.
Me too.
And the U.S. has a "president" who admires sex offenders, and owned beauty pageants to be able to look at naked contestants. For example,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HKWlOPPIII
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ena4ehVarmQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyhXSDeU_Oc
Another republican pedophile😡
I am so shocked by this that I needed to TASER myself to feel any shock.
It is a little cult. These guys want to be in the pulpit because they have a deep-seated need to tell other people what to believe and do. They are sick, damaged individuals. Patriarchal, authoritarian... I cannot say enough bad things about them, but certain credulous people are drawn in. Critical thinking is hard work for them and to have a 'friend' who did the hard work for them and can tell them what to believe gives them reassurance. It is also a birds-of-a-feather phenomenon. Authoritarians are most comfortable hanging together so they won't be criticized for their mean and crazed beliefs.
I'm sorry I can't point you directly to the documentaries that I've seen this in, but:
I have seen two different docs now that have talked about research showing the professions that attract societally functional sociopaths. Guess what profession is number two on the list (highly specialized surgeons just eke by them)?
The dentists? No?
The record keepers? No?
Then I have no idea. Unless it is priests in US, but that can't be right.
Excellent !
It would sure be nice if more people would cotton to the fact religious leaders are snake-oil salesmen at best.
How else are you going to keep your snakes from squeaking???
That explanes a lot. I'll try to remember that.
👆🎯
If P-ass-tor Pervo is so worried about what books are in libraries, then have I got a doozy for him. One with a woman who fantasizes about men with penises the sizes of donkeys and ejaculations like stallions.
A book where two virgin daughters get their "righteous" father drunk and have sex with him, both winding up pregnant by him. Keep in mind that this same righteous man previously offered up those 2 virginal daughters to a rape mob in order to protect two male strangers.
A book full of incest. Incest that supposedly populated the world. Twice. A book where Abraham marries his half-sister Sarah, where Isaac marries his cousin Rebecca and where Jacob marries not one but two cousins (Leah and Rachel). Oh, and there's also Amram and Jochebed (Jochebed was Abram's aunt).
That's just the sexual aspect. There is all manner of horrific content in this book that needs to be kept out of the reach of children.
The irony is that most of his "flock" have probably never set foot in a library.
Nor, outside of maybe the 'top 10' passages, have they set foot in the bible.
Not read the book. Funnily enough, I've known I did not believe since I was six (took a while longer to have the words for it), and I've read the ENTIRE book. Some of the worst fiction I've ever read, and I've read David Foster Wallace's 'Infinite Jest'.
i feel the same having read the entire book.
Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Rebecca, Jacob, Leah, and Rachel? I bet they picked all those biblical names because they were making some sort of satirical point.
I can’t see biblical scripture having a sense of humor. :)
I named my daughter "Leah" after a woman who won Jeopardy five times in a row (the limit in 1988) and went on to win the Tournament of Champions. Scripture had nothing to do with it.
An acquaintance of mine named her daughter "Rachel" after Jennifer Anniston's character on "Friends," because she liked the show and thought it was a pretty name.
We named our oldest daughter after my brother, my father's father and her dads grandmother. The female version is Kristine (no)/Christina (eng).
Don’t you think it’s funny that God murdered everybody on the planet, except for an old drunk and his family? That’s wholesome family entertainment. The Star Wars movies are held up as some sort of moral tale, as if there was any morality in it at all.
Be nice to Ewoks is a pretty good lesson.
Not bad, but they still murder all of the humans. So there’s that.
I missed that. Must have been after the first three movies.
Sounds too disgusting for me. I will read almost anything, but not that. That's too sick even for me.
You know that this one victim of his isn't the only one. He didn't suddenly just decide to do this. It's likely part of a long term pattern of abuse by him.
If you're out in public screaming about the evils of "da gayes", I'd warrant it would take less than 10 minutes to find your grindr account.
Apparently they still haven't gotten the message. NOT. A. DRAG. QUEEN.
Louder, Joe. The numbnuts at the back of the humanity chain can’t hear you.
Because they have their fingers stuck in their ears while squalling hymns at the top of their lungs.
So, another white, republican male, christian using his position to sexually prey on children. It's getting to the point where the Venn diagram of white republican males and pedophiles is a circle.
Feed, clothe and house the poor. Visit the sick and imprisoned. These are the things Jesus told his followers to do. They're what Jesus' representatives on Earth should be teaching from the pulpit.
Where in scripture does Jesus tell people to rape every child within sight?
I seem to recall that the xtian messiah had a special punishment for those who caused children who believed in him to "stumble." Something involving millstones.
His own mother did not really consent.
You can't consent if you weren't asked.
Quarry's empty. No more millstones. All we can do is long prison sentences.
I will absolutely settle for that, if insertion of pedo’s into a wood chipper is out of the question.
Or anointing their dongs with hydrochloric acid.
His "parishioners" are like: "But he's a good man and Jesus forgives him but don't say gay in front of my child bride."
This is Christian hypocrisy #897,200,1055, etc. etc...
You're gonna have to rent storage space for that.
"Silas Shelton said being gay was a "health risk." All the while, police say he was targeting a little girl who attended his church."
Hemant, you should know the difference by now. Two consenting adults in a SSR are disgusting, while raping or abusing little girls and underage teens is biblical.
"we’re not allowed to talk about the health risk of kids being gay."
It is, only because of bigots like him.
"You take a young man or a young… girl"
Interesting phrasing. Show this opinion of the female gender (only cis, because of course trans people don't exist 🙄).
"And if you are a religious person"
I am, so what ? The world count more religions than the abrahamic ones, and some doesn't confuse hate and love. I know, this concept is too hard to grasp for people like him.
He probably thinks he's being unjustly persecuted even as he sits in his jail cell.
Count on it. Hope the other inmates visit him. Often.
Someone should remind this asshole that underage girls experience far more problematic pregnancies than adult women. The stress on an adult woman's body is significant, but the stress on a young girl whose body is still growing and maturing can be dangerous.
Whenever I think about the lengths those Republican assholes went to, to try to punish the doctor who provided the 10-year old rape victim an abortion, I want to scream.
Edited for missing word.
They also ignore that the science is now finding many of the pregnancy complications stem more from problematic sperm, especially the sperm from older gentlemen, than from the health history of the women. They also have found that the eggs don’t get worse from age, the genetic quality doesn’t change over time, but sperm quality, increases of mutations in sperm, does change as the man ages.
RFK recently tried to say that the young men (18-20something) are less virile than elderly men (teens have less testosterone than 65 year olds blah blah) and that girls are hitting puberty 6 years earlier nowadays. He’s trying to usher in selling our daughters to old men in their tweens and teens to increase the birth rate because that is the optimum mix. Which is the opposite of reality.
What? They tried to punish the one who helped a child to survive a pregnancy without dying or becoming more traumatised than she already was? WTAF? Right now I am a bit pissed because I can't kidnap him and push him into the bonfire on midsummer night at my cousins place.
Here's what the Mayo Clinic says about the "health risks".
"LGBTQ people are at higher risk of anxiety and depression."
Guess who causes that.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/adult-health/basics/lgbtq-health/hlv-20049421
The tooth fairy? Joni Ernst seems to think there are adults who still believe in the Tooth Fairy, and that's why they all turned on her at her town hall meeting...the Tooth Fairy belief scrambled their brains.
The Tooth Fairy doesn't care if a tooth is straight or gay. : )
Joni’s Tooth Fairy does.