"Mrs. Harris, Mrs. Emhoff, who is running for president."
Anyone else notice this subtle bit of sexism? The only reason to call her "Mrs Emhoff" is to deny her agency and claim that her husband has some ownership of her.
The MAGAts spent 8 years denying Obama's legitimacy. They firmly believe that no one who is a member of a tribe other than their own, is legitimately entitled to lead. They will spend all the years of her presidency denying her legitimacy, no matter how much good she does for the country.
I wonder why Isker wasn't a quest speaker at the Trump Madison Square Garden rally? He'd fit right in with the Christian Nationalist MAGA. Also I hear the creators of South Park are suing him for copyright infringement and besmearing of Ned Flanders.
One side would excoriate him. The other would only condemn him with weasel words indicating they privately agree with him. I think you know which one is which....
He hasn't had a wife since my MIL divorsed him 59 ya. Neither my husband, me, our kids or his brother, including the brother's family, want to have any contact with him. He is an asshole and everything he does, says or texts proves that.
His wife divorced him? Sweet! All the more reason to refer to him as "Mr. HerName". You can point out to him that it's only fair, since Marjorie Taylor and Lauren Roberts are continuing to use their former husband's surnames (respectively Greene and Bobert) after their hubbies shed THEM.
So that means I am not connected to the past. My grandfather wasn't born in the US. So why isn't he objecting to Trump's candidacy? After all, his mother was born in Scotland, and his paternal grandfather was born in Germany. Oh yeah. Trump is a white man. There's the real reason for his objection. He had to pick a cherry that backed up the racism as well as the sexism. That's why he picked Deuteronomy instead of 1 Timothy.
That's exactly it. By "immigrants aren't Americans" they mean any immigrants who aren't white. White guys are just fine. (see: the muskrat from South Africa, recently in the news because he lived and worked here while overstaying a visa.) And, of course, all women aren't "real Americans" because women are property. And African Americans, etc etc aren't "real Americans" because etc etc. The whole point is to deny that a huge number of people who are here, aren't "real Americans." That was, of course, the whole point of that thing in New York that harked back to the Nazi rally there in 1939. Because *they* are the only "real Americans." Indigenous people--eh, y'know, not "real Americans" either. One could go on and on...
I had an ancestor who fought in the Civil War...on the Confederate side. I suspect Isker would consider that a connection to 'our' country but I don't. The South lost that war and today we are a union of states bound by the Constitution of the United States. Like many modern day Republicans though, I suspect that Isker would rather we get back to the pre-war South. By his logic I would advance the theory that NO Republican is fit for office.
My ancestors came here from Germany in the 1840s. So far as I can tell, they had no interest at all in participating in Americaโs wars. They lived in little German enclaves in Illinois and Texas and kept to themselves for generations.
What immediately strikes me as bizarre about this is that George Washington had no children and was one of I think at least six presidents for whom this was the case and of course all non Native American people are immigrants.
And THAT is ALL that is necessary, bubbie. Ever hear of a little thing called Birthright Citizenship?!? The 14 Amendment to the Constitution codifies it into law, and as the 14th Amendment has NOT been superseded, THAT'S IT.
The desperation these people display is sometimes breathtaking ... ๐
A "supposed" virgin that hung with the Bros. I mean what are we supposed to think, that they were trying get a soccer (football for you o'er the ponders) club going?
This should go without saying, but Iโll say it anyway.
The Bible does not determine who can or cannot be president.
So all his arguments are moot, outside his circle anyway. His congregation will accept them of course.
The argument that she doesnโt have biological children only seems to apply to her because sheโs a woman, since, was it, Buchanan never married or fathered any children. Iโm sure there were folks who took offense to his lifelong bachelorhood, but there wasnโt the vitriol sheโs seeing over it.
I would argue that Trumpโs balls have been crushed between the rock of Melania and the hard place of Stormy Daniels. Not that he has ever been shown to even have a set of balls, coward that he is.
Well, have you looked at the kids, they all have his dumb duck lipped expression. If it wasnโt that obvious he sired them, I wouldnโt believe it either.
I suppose it's irrelevant to him that his magic book has no standing in law, what so ever. I will never understand the people who delegate their thinking to the clergy, and enable them with their donations. Republicans pander to preachers like this while viewing human decency as a character flaw.
Not to mention the OT magic book was written in the Middle East some 3,000 years ago by brown Jewish people, who the white supremacist christains hate. But then, these are the same power-crazed zealots that enjoy memes of their blue-eyed white jesus holding an AK and wearing a crucifix necklace.
Some of the folks posting here seem angry but I can't work up anything but amusement. If I were to ๐๐๐๐๐๐ฆ or ๐ ๐๐ก๐๐๐๐ง๐ the evangelical right, I might come up with a preacher saying "Because Deuteronomy says castrated men can't enter the synagogue, the bible says Kamala Harris can't be President". But I would never expect anyone to mistake that satire for a serious conservative opinion. Oh, how wrong my expectation would be: they themselves seem to be competing to make more and more over the top parodies of their own positions.
I know. It should be satire, but frighteningly enough they are ALL IN. Now, it just seems to be a competition of extremes. The cult of religion has them all by the balls!
A few months ago some troll on altnet was going on about how Obama wasn't really a citizen because birthright citizenship wasn't legal in his eyes. Vance wants to end it too. It's just another bigoted "birth certificate" claim.
Whether to change the Constitution to not allow it is one thing. Probably coming from a very bigoted place, but within the realm of exactly the sort of political speech the 1A was intended to protect. However, the Constitution ALSO includes that pesky 'no ex post facto' clause, which means that even if the GOP somehow got such a change done in the next Congressional session, an elected Harris would remain President.
They've always been selective. Cruz was born in Canada and at one point was the leading GOP candidate for a while in 2016. McCain was born in the Panama Canal zone but that was allowed.
Isnโt it โinterestingโ that the GOP is more than willing to overlook, obfuscate, and flat out IGNORE such obvious disqualifications within their own party โ while loudly disparaging the DEM candidate and hoping nobody will notice.
And depriving citizens born in the U.S.A. whose parents are not citizens would would certainly whiten..err lighten..hmmm ok fewer people would be able to vote.
Well, good--as far as it goes. I'd bet the farm that the hospital will find some way of weaseling out of their agreement. "The woman *really* wasn't at risk of *dy*ing," and other excuses. I frankly don't trust the RCC as far as I could kick them...uphill...in a blizzard...
Whereupon I suspect California would sue them AGAIN for attempting to skirt the law. If Providence St. Joseph Hospital purports to provide emergency services, then they need to demonstrate that they are competent to deliver ALL those services, at least from where I sit. After the incident with Ms. Nusslock, I think that any future similar event will be under California's microscope before you can blink.
The tolerance for Catholic bullshit is waning ... and that's a good thing.
As well as nurses and others who are either able or willing. Or make objection to doing D&Cs a condition of employment. There are all kinds of ways of getting around their agreement, which is why I said above that they'll find some way of doing so. Just coincidentally there will be no one who can provide such stabilizing care, so sad.
Figures. Hold a figurative gun to their heads and even Catholic hospitals can find it in themselves to FINALLY do the right thing. The question now is will the other Catholic hospitals in the Golden State get the message, rather than get their asses sued as well?
Iโm a descendant of Russian and Dutch immigrants. I was born here. Iโm able to run for President. While I never will and few outside my friends and family would vote for me (probably dismissing fanatical religious folk as cranks would not endear me to any of them), at least my platform wouldnโt include using racism, anti LBGTQ+ bigotry, misogyny, and fairy tales as my means of communicating policy.
Considering the epic shitfit he threw when Mickey offered the most tepid, weak-kneed opposition to his culture war bullshit... I don't think he quite groks the Bill of Rights, or why it exists. Namely, to protect ๐ฆ๐ท๐ฆ๐ณ๐บ๐ฐ๐ฏ๐ฆ ๐ฆ๐ญ๐ด๐ฆ from tin-pot tyrants like ๐ฉ๐ช๐ฎ.
"Mrs. Harris, Mrs. Emhoff, who is running for president."
Anyone else notice this subtle bit of sexism? The only reason to call her "Mrs Emhoff" is to deny her agency and claim that her husband has some ownership of her.
The MAGAts spent 8 years denying Obama's legitimacy. They firmly believe that no one who is a member of a tribe other than their own, is legitimately entitled to lead. They will spend all the years of her presidency denying her legitimacy, no matter how much good she does for the country.
Condescension is among their most favorite games. Problem is that, these days, that's more for Isker's audience than it would be for Ms. Harris.
Can you imagine how FRIED ON BOTH SIDES Isker would be if he addressed HER in person as "Mrs. Emhoff?!?"
I wonder why Isker wasn't a quest speaker at the Trump Madison Square Garden rally? He'd fit right in with the Christian Nationalist MAGA. Also I hear the creators of South Park are suing him for copyright infringement and besmearing of Ned Flanders.
One side would excoriate him. The other would only condemn him with weasel words indicating they privately agree with him. I think you know which one is which....
I'd pay to see him debate Kamala. Let's see whose balls get crushed.
It wasn't subtle. ; )
I really hate that. My husbands father calls me mrs. Husbands Lastname. That's not my name.
Call him mr. Wife's Maiden Name.
He hasn't had a wife since my MIL divorsed him 59 ya. Neither my husband, me, our kids or his brother, including the brother's family, want to have any contact with him. He is an asshole and everything he does, says or texts proves that.
His wife divorced him? Sweet! All the more reason to refer to him as "Mr. HerName". You can point out to him that it's only fair, since Marjorie Taylor and Lauren Roberts are continuing to use their former husband's surnames (respectively Greene and Bobert) after their hubbies shed THEM.
Leapt off the page.
Sheโs not โMrs. Harrisโ. Sheโs Vice President Harris in her political career and Kamala at home. Get it right or STFU.
[๐]โ๐ ๐๐ ๐๐๐ก ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ก๐๐ ๐ก๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐ ๐ก ๐๐ ๐กโ๐๐ ๐๐๐ข๐๐ก๐๐ฆ ๐คโ๐๐ก๐ ๐๐๐ฃ๐๐โฆ ๐โ๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐'๐ก โ๐๐ฃ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ก๐๐๐ ๐กโ๐๐ก ๐๐๐ข๐โ๐ก ๐๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐ถ๐๐ฃ๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ก๐๐๐ ๐คโ๐ ๐๐๐ข๐โ๐ก ๐๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐ ๐๐ฃ๐๐๐ข๐ก๐๐๐๐๐๐ฆ ๐๐๐โฆ
So that means I am not connected to the past. My grandfather wasn't born in the US. So why isn't he objecting to Trump's candidacy? After all, his mother was born in Scotland, and his paternal grandfather was born in Germany. Oh yeah. Trump is a white man. There's the real reason for his objection. He had to pick a cherry that backed up the racism as well as the sexism. That's why he picked Deuteronomy instead of 1 Timothy.
That's exactly it. By "immigrants aren't Americans" they mean any immigrants who aren't white. White guys are just fine. (see: the muskrat from South Africa, recently in the news because he lived and worked here while overstaying a visa.) And, of course, all women aren't "real Americans" because women are property. And African Americans, etc etc aren't "real Americans" because etc etc. The whole point is to deny that a huge number of people who are here, aren't "real Americans." That was, of course, the whole point of that thing in New York that harked back to the Nazi rally there in 1939. Because *they* are the only "real Americans." Indigenous people--eh, y'know, not "real Americans" either. One could go on and on...
I had an ancestor who fought in the Civil War...on the Confederate side. I suspect Isker would consider that a connection to 'our' country but I don't. The South lost that war and today we are a union of states bound by the Constitution of the United States. Like many modern day Republicans though, I suspect that Isker would rather we get back to the pre-war South. By his logic I would advance the theory that NO Republican is fit for office.
My ancestors came here from Germany in the 1840s. So far as I can tell, they had no interest at all in participating in Americaโs wars. They lived in little German enclaves in Illinois and Texas and kept to themselves for generations.
The only true connection is being native born, and preceding the invasion from across the OCEAN โผ๏ธ
What immediately strikes me as bizarre about this is that George Washington had no children and was one of I think at least six presidents for whom this was the case and of course all non Native American people are immigrants.
Those idiots pick and choose whatever they want. With no regards to facts.
A forbidden marriage in Deuteronomy would mean any marriage between close relatives or between a Jewish person and a foreigner.
That's it.
Rather absurd that these dickheads are using a book they don't read or understand to try to tell the rest of us how to live.
Does that imply a band member from Foreigner?
If he's Hot Blooded......
๐๐๐ . ๐ป๐๐๐๐๐ , ๐๐๐ . ๐ธ๐โ๐๐๐, ๐คโ๐ ๐๐ ๐๐ข๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ก. ๐โ๐โ๐๐๐๐กโ๐๐ ๐๐ โ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ก๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐ด๐๐๐๐๐๐, ๐๐๐โ๐ก? ๐บ๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐ช๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐...
And THAT is ALL that is necessary, bubbie. Ever hear of a little thing called Birthright Citizenship?!? The 14 Amendment to the Constitution codifies it into law, and as the 14th Amendment has NOT been superseded, THAT'S IT.
The desperation these people display is sometimes breathtaking ... ๐
Yeah, but remember that some of them are trying to get rid of birthright citizenship. Starting with Trump.
One more reason why Trump must NEVER see the inside of the Oval Office, EVER AGAIN.
> "The desperation these people display is sometimes breathtaking ... " and their ignorance is discouraging.
Jesus didn't have kids.
A "supposed" virgin that hung with the Bros. I mean what are we supposed to think, that they were trying get a soccer (football for you o'er the ponders) club going?
I'm sure he tried some "immaculate conception" with his apostles.
Depending on what versions of the โ prohibited โ books you read
This should go without saying, but Iโll say it anyway.
The Bible does not determine who can or cannot be president.
So all his arguments are moot, outside his circle anyway. His congregation will accept them of course.
The argument that she doesnโt have biological children only seems to apply to her because sheโs a woman, since, was it, Buchanan never married or fathered any children. Iโm sure there were folks who took offense to his lifelong bachelorhood, but there wasnโt the vitriol sheโs seeing over it.
I would argue that Trumpโs balls have been crushed between the rock of Melania and the hard place of Stormy Daniels. Not that he has ever been shown to even have a set of balls, coward that he is.
Well, he has fathered five children . . . that we know of.
Evidence not in hand, I need to see the genome.
Stormy had evidence in hand, she was not impressed.
Well, have you looked at the kids, they all have his dumb duck lipped expression. If it wasnโt that obvious he sired them, I wouldnโt believe it either.
Heโs still a coward with tiny cajones.
Still not convinced, need to see the tapes and the actual genome. Another Trump could have been used.
Erick looks more like Gary Busey, than trump.
Can you get bone spurs on your balls?
If you kick hard enough.
Down here in the South, you could get sand spurs on your balls... especially if you hike naked.
Oooch, that hurts just thinking about it.
I suppose it's irrelevant to him that his magic book has no standing in law, what so ever. I will never understand the people who delegate their thinking to the clergy, and enable them with their donations. Republicans pander to preachers like this while viewing human decency as a character flaw.
Not to mention the OT magic book was written in the Middle East some 3,000 years ago by brown Jewish people, who the white supremacist christains hate. But then, these are the same power-crazed zealots that enjoy memes of their blue-eyed white jesus holding an AK and wearing a crucifix necklace.
I've come up with a new term for people like this jerkwad.
Pastard... a combination of Pastor and Bastard.
Seems applicable in this instance, for sure.
With a heavy emphasis on the 'tard'.
More like Pasturd.
Jesus Christ on a bicycle these people are beyond ridiculous.
Right?
Some of the folks posting here seem angry but I can't work up anything but amusement. If I were to ๐๐๐๐๐๐ฆ or ๐ ๐๐ก๐๐๐๐ง๐ the evangelical right, I might come up with a preacher saying "Because Deuteronomy says castrated men can't enter the synagogue, the bible says Kamala Harris can't be President". But I would never expect anyone to mistake that satire for a serious conservative opinion. Oh, how wrong my expectation would be: they themselves seem to be competing to make more and more over the top parodies of their own positions.
I know. It should be satire, but frighteningly enough they are ALL IN. Now, it just seems to be a competition of extremes. The cult of religion has them all by the balls!
To p-ass-tor Isker...
Go through your entire bible and show us where the word "President" is ever mentioned. We'll wait.
IK, R? America was a future dream to the middle-east.
A few months ago some troll on altnet was going on about how Obama wasn't really a citizen because birthright citizenship wasn't legal in his eyes. Vance wants to end it too. It's just another bigoted "birth certificate" claim.
Whether to change the Constitution to not allow it is one thing. Probably coming from a very bigoted place, but within the realm of exactly the sort of political speech the 1A was intended to protect. However, the Constitution ALSO includes that pesky 'no ex post facto' clause, which means that even if the GOP somehow got such a change done in the next Congressional session, an elected Harris would remain President.
They've always been selective. Cruz was born in Canada and at one point was the leading GOP candidate for a while in 2016. McCain was born in the Panama Canal zone but that was allowed.
Isnโt it โinterestingโ that the GOP is more than willing to overlook, obfuscate, and flat out IGNORE such obvious disqualifications within their own party โ while loudly disparaging the DEM candidate and hoping nobody will notice.
And for the most part, nobody ever did.
And depriving citizens born in the U.S.A. whose parents are not citizens would would certainly whiten..err lighten..hmmm ok fewer people would be able to vote.
Did you tell him, it's generally a him, but not always, that the law doesn't give a shit what some rando "thinks"?
Love the parts of the Bible that deep dive into American constitutional law.
๐คฃ๐๐คฃ๐๐๐
OT: Asshole Catholic hospital caves to government pressure: https://calmatters.org/health/2024/10/emergency-abortion-lawsuit/
Too bad they couldn't do the right thing on their own.
Well, good--as far as it goes. I'd bet the farm that the hospital will find some way of weaseling out of their agreement. "The woman *really* wasn't at risk of *dy*ing," and other excuses. I frankly don't trust the RCC as far as I could kick them...uphill...in a blizzard...
They will fire all doctors able to do an abortion.
Whereupon I suspect California would sue them AGAIN for attempting to skirt the law. If Providence St. Joseph Hospital purports to provide emergency services, then they need to demonstrate that they are competent to deliver ALL those services, at least from where I sit. After the incident with Ms. Nusslock, I think that any future similar event will be under California's microscope before you can blink.
The tolerance for Catholic bullshit is waning ... and that's a good thing.
As well as nurses and others who are either able or willing. Or make objection to doing D&Cs a condition of employment. There are all kinds of ways of getting around their agreement, which is why I said above that they'll find some way of doing so. Just coincidentally there will be no one who can provide such stabilizing care, so sad.
And you know from whence you speak didn't they try to kill you?
Figures. Hold a figurative gun to their heads and even Catholic hospitals can find it in themselves to FINALLY do the right thing. The question now is will the other Catholic hospitals in the Golden State get the message, rather than get their asses sued as well?
They never will, they prefer women die for their religious beliefs.
Iโm a descendant of Russian and Dutch immigrants. I was born here. Iโm able to run for President. While I never will and few outside my friends and family would vote for me (probably dismissing fanatical religious folk as cranks would not endear me to any of them), at least my platform wouldnโt include using racism, anti LBGTQ+ bigotry, misogyny, and fairy tales as my means of communicating policy.
A REAL LEADER UNITES. TYRANTS DIVIDE
Kay-El 2032!
(I'm assuming 2 terms for Harris. : )
OT - Some good news
๐๐ฎ๐๐ ๐ ๐๐จ๐ง๐ญ๐ข๐ง๐ฎ๐๐ฌ ๐ญ๐จ ๐๐ฅ๐จ๐๐ค ๐ ๐ฅ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐๐ ๐จ๐๐๐ข๐๐ข๐๐ฅ๐ฌ ๐๐ซ๐จ๐ฆ ๐ญ๐ก๐ซ๐๐๐ญ๐๐ง๐ข๐ง๐ ๐๐ ๐ฌ๐ญ๐๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง๐ฌ ๐จ๐ฏ๐๐ซ ๐๐๐จ๐ซ๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง ๐๐๐ฌ
https://apnews.com/article/florida-abortion-amendment-6-commercial-lawsuit-election-d762c425f6ec193c3edcf6e6e9c93198
As has been said before in this forum: "It's the First Amendment, STUPID!"
Considering the epic shitfit he threw when Mickey offered the most tepid, weak-kneed opposition to his culture war bullshit... I don't think he quite groks the Bill of Rights, or why it exists. Namely, to protect ๐ฆ๐ท๐ฆ๐ณ๐บ๐ฐ๐ฏ๐ฆ ๐ฆ๐ญ๐ด๐ฆ from tin-pot tyrants like ๐ฉ๐ช๐ฎ.
Liar, liar, put him on fire.
Yeah but Death-santis is still doing the lies tour.