What I find far more disgusting than anything this man has to say, are the people who think he's worth listening to. I don't think people should delegate their thinking to anyone, least of all the clergy. Almost every problem on earth traces back to either a profit motive or religion, and they are not mutually exclusive.
When you hear in back 'come on now!' then you pretty much know winning them, and in such a quickened way can you make it clear that even publicly could he win them over.
Are they 𝘵𝘳𝘺𝘪𝘯𝘨 to see how crazy the stories can get before the rubes stop buying into them? Jesus H Motherfucking Christ on a cracker, I did not have "voting for Democrats cooks your brain" on my fundie bingo card.
They may not be intentionally trying to get crazier, but I'm sure they are intentionally trying to one-up each others' sermons. They are competing for each others' donations.
On top of that the human brain is adapted to respond to differences in stimulation, not some objective amount of it. So once big claims are the new church normal, you need even bigger claims to get the crowd excited and happy.
Probably, I was listening to an interview with one of those Nigerian love scammers and they were saying that they don’t worry too much about using proper English when they are trying to claim they’re from the US, They’ll throw some wildly unbelievable stuff in there when they’re dealing with their mark just to see if the person questions anything or if they just blindly believe. They don’t want to waste their time on someone who’s going to question things and catch inconsistencies. They only want to work with the people who are easy to scam and getting ridiculous rules out the people who aren’t.
well, it jus' comes naturally,...when you live swampside, in the 'bibble belt' in a 1951 single-wide,and its surrounded by junk cars ,and old appliances,,and most important, you have a 'great big' 3rd grade education.....
Here's the thing: lots of people vote for Democrats, and I mean LOTS. Yet Yahweh singles out THIS GUY to fricassee his gray matter, so that this Henderson character can "cure" him.
It is nonsense that a man was hospitalized and near death because he voted for democrats and only because he voted for democrats, and then once his fever breaks he’s in church the very next day.
I will say, since 2020, (no not just since then, since at least Nixon and probably before him) voting for republicans has caused a great deal of illness and death. Not just Covid of course, but also abortion/maternity care access, health insurance, food and drug safety regulations, worker protection regulations, police policies, immigration policies… pretty much every GOP policy has caused pain and suffering for millions.
And the big one: Reaganomics. No single Republican policy has done more to fuck over this country than the decades-long push to shift the entire federal tax burden off of the wealthiest people and corporations (but I repeat myself, according to SCROTUS!) and onto the middle and lower classes.
That’s why we have so much misogyny and red pill nonsense these days.
The economy has been destroyed by Republican policies to the point that young men can’t survive out there and the government has been trying to use women as a carrot to convince them to work harder. And when they do and it doesn’t work out for them they blame women.
I read that section as a textbook passage on how to create a dictatorship with a reign of terror and use the survivors to breed an army of fanatics over two generations.
Please, it's called imprecatory prayer in theological circles. Which is *totally* different.
And it completely and totally works too! Unless the court system comes calling in which case its totally not assault because nobody in their right mind would believe it works. Kinda like mediums do the "for entertainment purposes only" thing.
Christian Nationalism is a terrifying cult and they are on the precipice of genuine power in the U.S. Americans NEED to give Harris/Walz a decisive win across the board or the U.S, otherwise Western Democracy may never recover.
I have a T that says: "This is our home, not your church"
And even after Harris & Walz win, we're still not out of the woods by a longshot: Christian nationalism will not go away. The best hope we have is education: we have to keep using every means at our disposal to put better information out there, and hope younger generations will keep moving away from religion.
I hate to have to mention Trump but ... hell, it's a fact: his outrageous behavior and equally insane statements have only encouraged people like Henderson to follow suit. Any bets that the man is a MAGA Republican who would back Donnie Dumb-ass, come hell or high water?
They're not just saying the quiet part out loud anymore. They're BROADCASTING it.
Groups like The Lincoln Project" ought to use the inane rants of trump, Mark Robinson, and "pastors" like this imbecile henderson to make it undeniable just how far off the rails these extremists really are.
You can sue anyone for anything. But you won't succeed. The law considers that "no reasonable person" would believe prayer can do anything.
Probably better just to pan him for not even being good at telling a tall tale. The proper response here is "eh, I've heard better 'fish this big' stories."
You know I kinda almost feel bad for preachers like this. They now have to compete for the media spotlight with JD 'Ohioans eat cats', 'these eggs [clearly and visibly marked $2 on the box] cost $4' Vance.
I'd like to drag him into civil court (where the burden of proof is on HIM) and watch as he's exposed for the fraud he is, then finally being forced to admit he made the whole thing up and for what reasons. After that? Dun him for righteous bucks.
No, the burden of proof would be on you to prove that he was practicing medicine without a license.
And your suit would very likely get dismissed immediately. When both sides agree on the facts of the case (i.e. what he did was pray for the person, not operate on him or anything like that), his lawyer can request the judge immediately rule on whether it was legal or not. And prayer is most definitely legal..and the law doesn't consider prayer to be 'practicing medicine.' So by definition he could not be practicing medicine without a license because the facts of the case are that he wasn't practicing medicine at all.
This is a *good* thing. Set aside the revenge fantasy for the moment and consider how much worse off the entire legal system would be if people could be successfully sued for cursing their neighbor, or if some surviving family member could sue people who wished their dead relative 'get well soon.' It would be chaos, and thousands of innocent people would lose their livelihoods for exercising nothing more than free speech.
No, in civil court the burden of proof is reversed from criminal court where it is on the state (remember what happened to OJ Simpson in criminal court and then in civil court? Two completely different outcomes).
Pastor Robert Henderson casted a spell against Harris? Well, you know what the bible says.... Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live. But is that a part of the bible we take literally or figuratively or just ignore.
If I had a nickel for every time some pastor told a story from the pulpit that bore no resemblance to reality, I would never need to work again.
Stories like these are, to the best of my ability to determine, just straight up lies that the Christian community doesn't even blink at accepting as truth. These words always come out of the mouth of some faithful person who for whatever reason never seems to have any other evidence available. Fact-checking what actually happened just never seems to occur to these people. When you consider this state of affairs, it's really no surprise at all that the MAGA crowd lies as often as it does; they learned how at church.
Pardon me, I'm going to go take a dandelion break. Be back later.
Next stories from this poach... preacher "I went to Hell and came back alive and unscathed", "A woman died for being in the same state with a Democrat, she gave me permission to vote for her during her funerals".
OT : news, once again Murphy decided to play with me, so my doctor appointment today ? Too sick to go... On the bright side, DM is still on the good path toward her recovery, still asleep react to some stimuli.
My thesis: If they lost tax exempt status they would claim religious prosecution. And that could lead to lots and lots of violence against regular people.
What I find far more disgusting than anything this man has to say, are the people who think he's worth listening to. I don't think people should delegate their thinking to anyone, least of all the clergy. Almost every problem on earth traces back to either a profit motive or religion, and they are not mutually exclusive.
When you hear in back 'come on now!' then you pretty much know winning them, and in such a quickened way can you make it clear that even publicly could he win them over.
Are they 𝘵𝘳𝘺𝘪𝘯𝘨 to see how crazy the stories can get before the rubes stop buying into them? Jesus H Motherfucking Christ on a cracker, I did not have "voting for Democrats cooks your brain" on my fundie bingo card.
They may not be intentionally trying to get crazier, but I'm sure they are intentionally trying to one-up each others' sermons. They are competing for each others' donations.
On top of that the human brain is adapted to respond to differences in stimulation, not some objective amount of it. So once big claims are the new church normal, you need even bigger claims to get the crowd excited and happy.
Probably, I was listening to an interview with one of those Nigerian love scammers and they were saying that they don’t worry too much about using proper English when they are trying to claim they’re from the US, They’ll throw some wildly unbelievable stuff in there when they’re dealing with their mark just to see if the person questions anything or if they just blindly believe. They don’t want to waste their time on someone who’s going to question things and catch inconsistencies. They only want to work with the people who are easy to scam and getting ridiculous rules out the people who aren’t.
well, it jus' comes naturally,...when you live swampside, in the 'bibble belt' in a 1951 single-wide,and its surrounded by junk cars ,and old appliances,,and most important, you have a 'great big' 3rd grade education.....
Twelve years of schoolin'...clean through the sixth grade.
Here's the thing: lots of people vote for Democrats, and I mean LOTS. Yet Yahweh singles out THIS GUY to fricassee his gray matter, so that this Henderson character can "cure" him.
Dare we ask WHY?
To find out just how gullible the indoctrinated are.
Yup ... there's ALWAYS that... 😖
The quickness in how they're able to win them over does indeed, especially him with this supposed power of prayer I simply can't fathom.
Doesn't it make you wonder if these guys sit around backstage and game out what BS they can feed to the rubes and see if they balk?
P𝗮𝘀𝘀tor Henderson must've cracked the combination!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi8HT6Ux8FM
[chuckle] Good old Tim Minchen!
This is brilliant!
It is nonsense that a man was hospitalized and near death because he voted for democrats and only because he voted for democrats, and then once his fever breaks he’s in church the very next day.
I will say, since 2020, (no not just since then, since at least Nixon and probably before him) voting for republicans has caused a great deal of illness and death. Not just Covid of course, but also abortion/maternity care access, health insurance, food and drug safety regulations, worker protection regulations, police policies, immigration policies… pretty much every GOP policy has caused pain and suffering for millions.
And the big one: Reaganomics. No single Republican policy has done more to fuck over this country than the decades-long push to shift the entire federal tax burden off of the wealthiest people and corporations (but I repeat myself, according to SCROTUS!) and onto the middle and lower classes.
That’s why we have so much misogyny and red pill nonsense these days.
The economy has been destroyed by Republican policies to the point that young men can’t survive out there and the government has been trying to use women as a carrot to convince them to work harder. And when they do and it doesn’t work out for them they blame women.
🎯👆👆👆
not even counting the mass shootings, .... you forgot to count the mass shootings?
The hospital would have kept the guy for at least another day for observation.
In the hallway by the nurses station since there were no beds.
This is some parallel universe where facts don't exist.
Henderson cast a spell on Kamala Harris? Isn't that...witchcraft?
Hey, Christians: What does your bible have to say about witchcraft? What do you do with its practitioners?
It's only witchcraft if you have a vagina.
They wander in a desert for 40 years ?
Lead by a man far too proud to ask for directions from his fellow Israelites who must have SOME idea which direction to take.
He had directions, he was following a pillar of cloud and fire. Too bad the aliens were totally going in circles to fuck with him.
I read that section as a textbook passage on how to create a dictatorship with a reign of terror and use the survivors to breed an army of fanatics over two generations.
Please, it's called imprecatory prayer in theological circles. Which is *totally* different.
And it completely and totally works too! Unless the court system comes calling in which case its totally not assault because nobody in their right mind would believe it works. Kinda like mediums do the "for entertainment purposes only" thing.
https://www.mamamia.com.au/teresita-basa-unsolved-mysteries/
Christianity is just the Imperial cult continued.
The old Caesars laugh at Jesus for becoming their tool for domination.
Christian Nationalism is a terrifying cult and they are on the precipice of genuine power in the U.S. Americans NEED to give Harris/Walz a decisive win across the board or the U.S, otherwise Western Democracy may never recover.
I have a T that says: "This is our home, not your church"
This one: t.co/cPzR9h2zV6
Perfect for these times. Separation of Church and State!
And even after Harris & Walz win, we're still not out of the woods by a longshot: Christian nationalism will not go away. The best hope we have is education: we have to keep using every means at our disposal to put better information out there, and hope younger generations will keep moving away from religion.
The Reichwing.
I once voted for a Republican, and was able to leave the hospital. Mainly, because I no longer have health insurance.
I hate to have to mention Trump but ... hell, it's a fact: his outrageous behavior and equally insane statements have only encouraged people like Henderson to follow suit. Any bets that the man is a MAGA Republican who would back Donnie Dumb-ass, come hell or high water?
They're not just saying the quiet part out loud anymore. They're BROADCASTING it.
Traded in their dogwhistles for bullhorns.
"Bullhorns," nutz! They opted for public address systems with a few thousand watts, driving high-efficiency horn loudspeakers!
️🎵 It all comes together
When they shoot out the lights
50,000 watts of power
And it's pushin' overload
The beast is ready to devour ️🎵
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEPoy5ozMY4
Yep it’s that “virtue signaling” they used to complain about (while screaming proudly about all their depravities.)
Groups like The Lincoln Project" ought to use the inane rants of trump, Mark Robinson, and "pastors" like this imbecile henderson to make it undeniable just how far off the rails these extremists really are.
Oh, they have... Frequently!
Dictator for a Day!
https://Dictatorforadayshow.com
Rated R for Republican. Rated MA for Make America Guffaw Again (TM)
Religion = MINDFUCK
As someone on here called it "mind flay."
Mind sifter.
"Those groups can always wink in a particular direction; they just can’t cross that line."
They don't have to wink, and the line gets crossed, without consequences, all the time.
Can we sue Henderson for practicing medicine without a license?
...and then maybe 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘪𝘳𝘦 𝘧𝘶𝘤𝘬𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘎𝘘𝘗?
Pretending to practice medicine.
You can sue anyone for anything. But you won't succeed. The law considers that "no reasonable person" would believe prayer can do anything.
Probably better just to pan him for not even being good at telling a tall tale. The proper response here is "eh, I've heard better 'fish this big' stories."
You know I kinda almost feel bad for preachers like this. They now have to compete for the media spotlight with JD 'Ohioans eat cats', 'these eggs [clearly and visibly marked $2 on the box] cost $4' Vance.
I'd like to drag him into civil court (where the burden of proof is on HIM) and watch as he's exposed for the fraud he is, then finally being forced to admit he made the whole thing up and for what reasons. After that? Dun him for righteous bucks.
No, the burden of proof would be on you to prove that he was practicing medicine without a license.
And your suit would very likely get dismissed immediately. When both sides agree on the facts of the case (i.e. what he did was pray for the person, not operate on him or anything like that), his lawyer can request the judge immediately rule on whether it was legal or not. And prayer is most definitely legal..and the law doesn't consider prayer to be 'practicing medicine.' So by definition he could not be practicing medicine without a license because the facts of the case are that he wasn't practicing medicine at all.
This is a *good* thing. Set aside the revenge fantasy for the moment and consider how much worse off the entire legal system would be if people could be successfully sued for cursing their neighbor, or if some surviving family member could sue people who wished their dead relative 'get well soon.' It would be chaos, and thousands of innocent people would lose their livelihoods for exercising nothing more than free speech.
No, in civil court the burden of proof is reversed from criminal court where it is on the state (remember what happened to OJ Simpson in criminal court and then in civil court? Two completely different outcomes).
The BoP doesn't change. The standard changes from reasonable doubt to preponderance of evidence.
Pastor Robert Henderson casted a spell against Harris? Well, you know what the bible says.... Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live. But is that a part of the bible we take literally or figuratively or just ignore.
Silly Holytape, witches are women. Men can do as they please.
https://preview.redd.it/qj3m8urca8u31.png?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=260b794960765971ed65b0247ef71e7e155f9b45
Apparently, that's what happens when a man tells a witch: "Make me a sandwich!"
Not going there. I've already learned my sammich lesson from Val.
Did she liked the sub ?
Nothing about not suffering a warlock to live.
Beat ya to it by 24 minutes. :)
But you didn't beat me with that
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ua2k52n_Bvw
I'm used to Screamin' Jay Hawkins' OTT version (Annie Lennox also covered this song for the movie "Fifty Shades of Grey").
I call it "fifty ways to fuck up".
I'm ashamed the film took place in both Vancouver (Washington) and Seattle.
Sorry, no English page
https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boutchou
If I had a nickel for every time some pastor told a story from the pulpit that bore no resemblance to reality, I would never need to work again.
Stories like these are, to the best of my ability to determine, just straight up lies that the Christian community doesn't even blink at accepting as truth. These words always come out of the mouth of some faithful person who for whatever reason never seems to have any other evidence available. Fact-checking what actually happened just never seems to occur to these people. When you consider this state of affairs, it's really no surprise at all that the MAGA crowd lies as often as it does; they learned how at church.
Pardon me, I'm going to go take a dandelion break. Be back later.
Next stories from this poach... preacher "I went to Hell and came back alive and unscathed", "A woman died for being in the same state with a Democrat, she gave me permission to vote for her during her funerals".
OT : news, once again Murphy decided to play with me, so my doctor appointment today ? Too sick to go... On the bright side, DM is still on the good path toward her recovery, still asleep react to some stimuli.
Helene... Hellenes refer to Greeks... Greeks were pagans... and invented the word "democracy"... do I have to draw you a picture?
Yes.
Why do these people still have tax exempt status?
The threat of Congress stripping the funding of the IRS if they investigate Johnson Amendment violations.
My thesis: If they lost tax exempt status they would claim religious prosecution. And that could lead to lots and lots of violence against regular people.
"Pastor claims ...."
That's all I need to hear to know it will be weird or criminal
Touché