The disgraced Kentucky clerk hasn't won any of her legal battles, but she and her Christian lawyers are now hoping to undo same-sex marriage nationwide
Already taken sorry. There is a meme out there which I can't find unfortunately which says "if the word cunt had a face this is what it would look like." With a picture of Piers Morgan. I'm afraid this is the best I can do.
An individual’s rights should not be determined by which state they reside in. That isn’t state’s rights. State’s rights is given to the state to determine the best way to operate their business in accordance to their unique economic interests and resources. No one should face a loss of rights for traveling out of their state. If you are a citizen of the country, you should be protected no matter where you reside by the constitution. That is what the 14th amendment was written to accomplish, to pretend otherwise is outright bigotry. I shouldn’t have fewer rights to life, liberty and property in Texas than I do in Wisconsin, or less in Alabama than in Washington. We fought a fucking war with ourselves over this. If the constitution doesn’t protect all of us in every state, then it protects none of us. Bring it back to the states? No. The reason we haven’t need doing that, for more than a hundred years, is because wealthy, influential, bigots have been denying citizens their rights and that leads to … exactly what we’re facing today with the current regime. Only a minority of loudly ignorant assholes want this, and the wealthy, influential bigots are using them to build up more power and control. That is not what this country is about. And Davis is a traitor to the country.
The only car mechanic in town is protestant. He refuses to repair a catholic family's car. He's following his faith.
A baptist consumer is trying to purchase steaks & ribs for a barbecue on Good Friday. The catholic grocer refuses to sell them. He's following his faith.
A patient is trying to purchase medication for a herpes flare-up. The evangelical pharmacist refuses to dispense the medication because its against his faith.
The zoroastrian judge let go easy a zoroastrian guilty thief but fully enforced the law against a guilty presbyterian co-defendant. The judge is following his faith.
A muslim caterer refuses to serve a jewish wedding. He's following his faith.
A christian tax preparer quits preparation of a tax returns the moment he found his client is atheist. He's following his faith.
Welcome to the GOP's Trumptatorship! Where crooks, kooks, opportunists, profiteers, perverts & Religiou$ Fanatics are in charge of the law. Expect no justice.
We desperately need Separation of Religion & State.
A physician refuses to provide maternity care to a pregnant single woman based on the physician’s sincerely held beliefs. This isn’t a hypothetical, it actually happened a few weeks ago in Tennessee (?). The physician was protected by Trump’s policies and state laws.
It's symbiotic relationshit. The GOP leadershit wants MONEY & POWER. Religiou$ Fanatics want to force their religionite doctrines onto EVERYONE by law. Both get what they want out of this relationshit.
Businesses will no longer be able to count on statistics from the government to make decisions that keep their companies going. Heritage Boy is going to tank the economy thanks to Trump, who cares not Shit One about the economy. He just wants the books cooked so he can have the illusion of perfection in all things. His raging narcissism is a wrecking ball to the US.
Trump & the opportunistic profiteering gazillionaires are only looking at Maximal Short-Term Profit$. What happens the day after, they don't care. They want 100% of the cake, even the crumbs. Religiou$ Fanatics don't care about tomorrow, because Jesus will teleport them to heaven. Only us, normal people, care about tomorrows. Which is exactly why the Unholy Alliance of The GOP Leadershit, Kleptomanous gazillionaires & Religiou$ Fanatics are all happy to serve the Trumptatorship. MONEY & POWER is all the Trumptatorship, the GOP Leadershit & gazillionaires want. Religiou$ Fanatics want to force their religionite doctrines on everyone by law. ALL of these assholes get what they want out of their Unholy Alliance.
“If we do not win this case, Kim Davis will face bankruptcy, …”
What was it that Mother Teresa said about pain? To suffer is to be touched by Jesus, or at least know him. Or you get the idea. Well, going into bankruptcy is to be touched by Trump, your savior and masterful businessman extraordinaire. Use the bankruptcy as your godly blessing to suffer as he has suffered, knowing you are chosen by him.
If memory serves, Davis not only refused to issue marriage licenses but also refused to let anyone else in the clerk’s office do so. Which means Davis may have been discriminating against her employees’ religious freedom.
Let’s not forget that her children worked in the clerks office with her. She also, kind of, inherited the role from her mother, she did get elected but it was because she her mother held it before her. IIRC
Wow. Projection this impressive can use the moon for a screen. So much wrong here. Kim Davis would face bankruptcy? So? Lots of people face that every day. Blame capitalism, not teh gayz. Christians become targets? The last time Christians were targets in the western world was around 1700 years ago. Intolerant LGBTQ crowd? The very acronym signifies tolerance.
It's all about the persecution complex with these people. They think that it is persecution to be required to accept that the LGBTQ community is allowed to exist as a normal part of society. 𝘛𝘩𝘦𝘺 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘨𝘳𝘺 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘺 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘢𝘭𝘭𝘰𝘸𝘦𝘥 𝘵𝘰 𝘷𝘪𝘰𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘵𝘪-𝘥𝘪𝘴𝘤𝘳𝘪𝘮𝘪𝘯𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘭𝘢𝘸𝘴 𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘨𝘩 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘺 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘭𝘭 𝘢𝘭𝘭𝘰𝘸𝘦𝘥 𝘵𝘰 𝘴𝘱𝘦𝘸 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘪𝘳 𝘩𝘢𝘵𝘦𝘧𝘶𝘭 𝘳𝘩𝘦𝘵𝘰𝘳𝘪𝘤. They want the power to oppress everyone thy hate without consequence.
The whole problem here is the remnants of Puritanism in the US. Mencken said “Puritanism is the haunting fear that someone, somewhere might be happy. These Authoritarians have an overwhelming need to impose their killjoy beliefs on everyone else. I fear for our Nation with these 6 SUPREMES sitting there waiting to usher in Gilead. I would not be at all surprised to see them toss Obergifel and deny access to birth control and medicinal abortion in one term.
I think it's much more related to racist, sexist, and religious bigotry than puritanism. Do not be fooled; the same civil servants and shop owners who want to deny service to gays now, will happily deny service to blacks, interracial couples, jews, women etc. the moment this SCOTUS would allow them to.
Agreed. They’ve been planning this for decades and the corrupt sadistic Supreme Court 6 will be the nail in our coffin for generations. Absolutely the root cause is the Puritans. Their authoritarian and theocratic tendencies are ingrained in every aspect of our culture to this day.
Does the word Cunt mean anything to you? because that’s what she is! I don’t care if people don’t like that word. They use it in England all the time no one takes offense. She’s just another right wing hypocritical Christo fascist! Fuck her and all her ilk!
I use the excuse of having spent time in the UK and AUS for the reason I include 'cunt' in my vocabulary, although I do try to exercise a modicum of decorum and situational awareness.¹
(¹ Don't need some silly cunt getting their knickers in a tangle unnecessarily. 😉)
We are partial to our four letter words. Our leading literary figure was not above the bawdy joke. Neither was Chaucer. The kissing a beard bit especially.
But the c word is reserved for special occasions. Like this story.
We used to have a guy on TV called Kenny Everett, one of his characters was a slutty woman by the name of Cupid Stunt. That was in the early 80s. No way would that ever happen now.
It is definitely still a shock value word in the circles I frequent.
We were x-tian newly-weds, in the mid 1960s when a x-tian friend asked if we could take in a lodger. He was a struggling actor and was coming to be in a play in our out-in-the-sticks, small-town theatre for 6 weeks and coudn't afford a hotel. We did, and found out his only other 'major' acting role was as a Dalek in Dr Who. He was 5'2" tall, so could fit the costume. I've never traced him since, he clearly didn't go on to become a star anywhere. But we had our 15minutes of fame. There's not many people who can say they've had a real life Dalek sleeping in their spare bedroom - and a x-tian one at that. We felt very special!
To be honest you can have Doctor Who. Most of the joy of that was in the sets that looked like a light breeze would knock over, and the outside bits almost always filmed in a disused quarry.
Then they rebooted and ruined it. As for Torchwood, that was unbelievable cringe. An adult version of what was a TV show for children.
She can join Mike “the pillow guy” Lindell in the crying game. Perhaps pool their resources to try and get any member of the élite republicans to give them money to fight back (ha, sure that will happened as soon as a cyberman can do cartwheels and fly by flapping their arms). They both wanted to hurt people that are different from them, and think differently than them. So the racist, homophobic sexist, xenophobic twits deserve everything that happens to them. I won’t shed tears if they both become poor and end up on the street, and they both better not ask for government assistance because that is socialism. We wouldn’t want both of them to suffer under socialism, now would we!
"and it’s therefore unfair to sue her an individual for denying those marriage licenses."
FFS, I don't have a law diploma and I see this argument has no value.
"because it was grounded entirely on the legal fiction of substantive due process."
Yep, like all the civil rights. That's called jurisprudence. They should look into the definition one day.
"The only reason currently existing same-sex marriages wouldn’t be undone is because President Joe Biden signed the “Respect for Marriage Act in 2022”"
Bless him for thinking outside his faith.
"Davis is considered one of the only people with legal standing to even make that request"
Sorry, I don't see how she has standing. She wasn't a pastor being asked to celebrate a gay wedding, she was a public official who waived her religious rights when she is at work. Constitution law 101.
"it seems unlikely that this is the vehicle they would use to do it. It’s a bad case with an even worse character at its core."
Like the christain webdesigner who was asked to make a site celebrating the wedding of two men ? One of them already married to a woman for about a decade. You are too optimist Hemant.
Keep in mind that Thomas would happily gut all of it. Alito probably would at this point too. So this SCOTUS is at least 2 of 5 votes needed in favor of ruling that the 14th amendment's Section 1 is extremely narrow and only prevents the government from executing you, putting you in jail, or taking your literal property without a hearing. That the 'privileges and immunities' clause essentially means nothing and therefore states and private organizations are free to discriminate in who they hire, who they give marriage licenses to, who they serve food to, etc.
Thomas would literally make segregation legal again, with no qualms at all. Alito wants religious segregation legal, and would probably make all segregation legal just to get there.
The real war being waged in this country has nothing to do with morality. It's all about raising ignorance and stupidity to the same level as intelligence and facts. This is the worst iteration of the Supreme Court in American history, and there is no telling how they might rule. Why would any country do this to itself just so people like Kim Davis can feel good about themselves?
While religion was already on the decline, the evangelicals hopping into bed with Shitler cannot be doing much for the church’s membership drives.
Is the church not erecting a firewall between them and their Jeebus? The teachings of the man and the current warped actions of the church have nothing in common.
The evangelicals have deluded themselves into believing they can impose their religion on the country with a happy ending, and people will passively submit to their rule. Of all the forms of government people have dreamed up, few things are worse than theocracy.
They are in the process of reinventing Jeebus. The new and improved Jeebus is quite happy to tell them who should go to the camps to better purify society.
I saw a quote that an evilgelical preacher, I want to say it was Mohler with the SBC, was lamenting members of his flock were telling him the Beatitudes were too woke...
"those with sincerely held religious beliefs concerning marriage will find it increasingly difficult to participate in society without running afoul of Obergefell and its effect on other anti-discrimination laws."
What about LGBTQ2SIA+ people's participation in society? We have done more for society than Kim Davis ever did. Hell, "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy" did more for society than she has or ever will.
Hell, manure does more good to the world than any religion has done. Christian Nationalism is severe mental disorder that really should be considered dangerous to humanity.
"those with sincerely held religious white supremacist beliefs concerning serving blacks at restaurants will find it increasingly difficult to participate in society without running afoul of Obergefell and its effect on other anti-discrimination laws."
How about this:
"those with sincerely held religious misogynistic beliefs concerning marriage will find it increasingly difficult to rape their wife without running afoul of Obergefell and its effect on other anti-discrimination laws."
Once again, we hear from this "Christian" who admits she made some poor life choices then 'found Jesus'. Does she then spend the rest of her days on earth helping other people who make poor life choices? Nope. She spends her days punishing people who are not the same kind of Christian that she chose to be. Does she also want to punish people who made similar life choices to those she made? I doubt it.
Her name SHOULD be KAREN Davis ... 'cuz she's sure acting like one. In any case, this spoiled-brat of a supposed "public servant" thought she could pick and choose which citizens she could serve, based on her Closely Held Religious Beliefs™. She was not just wrong, she was obviously and egregiously wrong and rightly earned the price she paid for her wrongheadedness. NOW she wants SCOTUS to patch her booboo for her?
The Supreme Court, if it has any integrity left at all (BIG IF!), should tell her, decisively and emphatically, NO.
Like the murderous boy whose mommy drove him to a demonstration with his AR-15 to shoot protesters, Kyle Rittenhouse. The MAGATS elevate these pathetic individuals to appeal to the MAGAT base. Soon, Davis will have her own crypto coin and the MAGATS will buy that shit up like it’s Chic-Fil-A.
I do not use this word lightly.
What. A. Twat.
See also: cunt.
😉
That doesn't quite fit. She lacks warmth and depth.
I will help you both. Let's call her a pétasse. Accent optional. There, problem solved.
pétasse - use it twice and it’s yours for life
I love your accuracy, Joe.
Already taken sorry. There is a meme out there which I can't find unfortunately which says "if the word cunt had a face this is what it would look like." With a picture of Piers Morgan. I'm afraid this is the best I can do.
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse2.explicit.bing.net%2Fth%2Fid%2FOIP.fzSao_ZC8vegEd42HlptWQHaJL%3Fpid%3DApi&f=1&ipt=59dc49cc20ca6e2daa06b8da0b80a12969c5c2746858320b621b4e3a68c54b49&ipo=images
Personally I favour Jeremy Clarkson but tomato tomahto.
Make your own:
https://meme-generator.org/
https://imgflip.com/memegenerator
Or, “whatatwat.”
I like to use the term “tvat.”
Yes, but I like the emphasis implied by the full break after each word. 😂
I don’t think she’s the problem - she’s just a pawn ♟️
Maybe she was, a few years back. But now? Now she’s a terrible person, a sanctimonious hypocrite, and an attention whore. Hence – – twat.
Who’s arguing she’s not? Those two points are not mutually exclusive 😬
An individual’s rights should not be determined by which state they reside in. That isn’t state’s rights. State’s rights is given to the state to determine the best way to operate their business in accordance to their unique economic interests and resources. No one should face a loss of rights for traveling out of their state. If you are a citizen of the country, you should be protected no matter where you reside by the constitution. That is what the 14th amendment was written to accomplish, to pretend otherwise is outright bigotry. I shouldn’t have fewer rights to life, liberty and property in Texas than I do in Wisconsin, or less in Alabama than in Washington. We fought a fucking war with ourselves over this. If the constitution doesn’t protect all of us in every state, then it protects none of us. Bring it back to the states? No. The reason we haven’t need doing that, for more than a hundred years, is because wealthy, influential, bigots have been denying citizens their rights and that leads to … exactly what we’re facing today with the current regime. Only a minority of loudly ignorant assholes want this, and the wealthy, influential bigots are using them to build up more power and control. That is not what this country is about. And Davis is a traitor to the country.
𝐴𝑛 𝑖𝑛𝑑𝑖𝑣𝑖𝑑𝑢𝑎𝑙’𝑠 𝑟𝑖𝑔ℎ𝑡𝑠 𝑠ℎ𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑 𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑏𝑒 𝑑𝑒𝑡𝑒𝑟𝑚𝑖𝑛𝑒𝑑 𝑏𝑦 𝑤ℎ𝑖𝑐ℎ 𝑠𝑡𝑎𝑡𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑦 𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑖𝑑𝑒 𝑖𝑛.
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Abso-fucking-lutely THIS!!!!!
Silly you, you are a walking uterus*. You only have the right to obey your owner.
* I didn't forgot.
🎯
Still waiting for Davis to point to a single bit of scripture in the gospels that has Jesus condemning LGBTQs. Or even mentioning them.
While he specifically DOES condemn Christians praying in public, which is something they do all the time.
Well, Jews. He never says he has given up being one of them.
Whereas divorce and re-marriage after divorce is condemned.
Mornin’ NOGODZ20. I see you are up and at ‘em this fine day.
Ready and rarin’ to go. :)
The only car mechanic in town is protestant. He refuses to repair a catholic family's car. He's following his faith.
A baptist consumer is trying to purchase steaks & ribs for a barbecue on Good Friday. The catholic grocer refuses to sell them. He's following his faith.
A patient is trying to purchase medication for a herpes flare-up. The evangelical pharmacist refuses to dispense the medication because its against his faith.
The zoroastrian judge let go easy a zoroastrian guilty thief but fully enforced the law against a guilty presbyterian co-defendant. The judge is following his faith.
A muslim caterer refuses to serve a jewish wedding. He's following his faith.
A christian tax preparer quits preparation of a tax returns the moment he found his client is atheist. He's following his faith.
Welcome to the GOP's Trumptatorship! Where crooks, kooks, opportunists, profiteers, perverts & Religiou$ Fanatics are in charge of the law. Expect no justice.
We desperately need Separation of Religion & State.
A physician refuses to provide maternity care to a pregnant single woman based on the physician’s sincerely held beliefs. This isn’t a hypothetical, it actually happened a few weeks ago in Tennessee (?). The physician was protected by Trump’s policies and state laws.
We tried for nearly 250 years. Rethuglikkkans are doing everything in their power to return to the days of Christian rule in the British Colonies.
And all of Europe for the Dark and Middle Ages.
Didn't you know? The only real religion is Bible thumping.
And Martyrbation.
trump's nominee to head the BLS is a 37 y.o. economist with the Heritage foundation.
Of COURSE he's with the Heritage Foundation. Isn't EVERYONE that works for Trump?
But remember, he doesn’t know anything about Project 2025.
Oh but OF COURSE NOT! 🤣🤣🤣
Yes, but I think trump works for them.
It's symbiotic relationshit. The GOP leadershit wants MONEY & POWER. Religiou$ Fanatics want to force their religionite doctrines onto EVERYONE by law. Both get what they want out of this relationshit.
It’s a symbidiotic relationship.
Symbidiotic relationshit. Perfect!
Symbidiotic relationshit. Perfect!
Businesses will no longer be able to count on statistics from the government to make decisions that keep their companies going. Heritage Boy is going to tank the economy thanks to Trump, who cares not Shit One about the economy. He just wants the books cooked so he can have the illusion of perfection in all things. His raging narcissism is a wrecking ball to the US.
Trump & the opportunistic profiteering gazillionaires are only looking at Maximal Short-Term Profit$. What happens the day after, they don't care. They want 100% of the cake, even the crumbs. Religiou$ Fanatics don't care about tomorrow, because Jesus will teleport them to heaven. Only us, normal people, care about tomorrows. Which is exactly why the Unholy Alliance of The GOP Leadershit, Kleptomanous gazillionaires & Religiou$ Fanatics are all happy to serve the Trumptatorship. MONEY & POWER is all the Trumptatorship, the GOP Leadershit & gazillionaires want. Religiou$ Fanatics want to force their religionite doctrines on everyone by law. ALL of these assholes get what they want out of their Unholy Alliance.
Yup.
“If we do not win this case, Kim Davis will face bankruptcy, …”
What was it that Mother Teresa said about pain? To suffer is to be touched by Jesus, or at least know him. Or you get the idea. Well, going into bankruptcy is to be touched by Trump, your savior and masterful businessman extraordinaire. Use the bankruptcy as your godly blessing to suffer as he has suffered, knowing you are chosen by him.
If memory serves, Davis not only refused to issue marriage licenses but also refused to let anyone else in the clerk’s office do so. Which means Davis may have been discriminating against her employees’ religious freedom.
Let’s not forget that her children worked in the clerks office with her. She also, kind of, inherited the role from her mother, she did get elected but it was because she her mother held it before her. IIRC
I had forgotten that.
You may be onto something. Were there any men among her subordinates ? Then she committed a sin by not respecting her faith based hierarchical order.
Yes, I think one of them ended up issuing the licenses after she lost her first case.
𝐼𝑓 𝑤𝑒 𝑑𝑜 𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑤𝑖𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑠 𝑐𝑎𝑠𝑒, 𝐾𝑖𝑚 𝐷𝑎𝑣𝑖𝑠 𝑤𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑓𝑎𝑐𝑒 𝑏𝑎𝑛𝑘𝑟𝑢𝑝𝑡𝑐𝑦, 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝐶ℎ𝑟𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑎𝑛𝑠 𝑤𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑏𝑒𝑐𝑜𝑚𝑒 𝑒𝑎𝑠𝑦 𝑡𝑎𝑟𝑔𝑒𝑡𝑠 𝑓𝑜𝑟 𝑝𝑒𝑟𝑠𝑒𝑐𝑢𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑏𝑦 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑖𝑛𝑡𝑜𝑙𝑒𝑟𝑎𝑛𝑡 𝐿𝐺𝐵𝑇𝑄 𝑐𝑟𝑜𝑤𝑑.
Wow. Projection this impressive can use the moon for a screen. So much wrong here. Kim Davis would face bankruptcy? So? Lots of people face that every day. Blame capitalism, not teh gayz. Christians become targets? The last time Christians were targets in the western world was around 1700 years ago. Intolerant LGBTQ crowd? The very acronym signifies tolerance.
It's all about the persecution complex with these people. They think that it is persecution to be required to accept that the LGBTQ community is allowed to exist as a normal part of society. 𝘛𝘩𝘦𝘺 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘨𝘳𝘺 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘺 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘢𝘭𝘭𝘰𝘸𝘦𝘥 𝘵𝘰 𝘷𝘪𝘰𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘵𝘪-𝘥𝘪𝘴𝘤𝘳𝘪𝘮𝘪𝘯𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘭𝘢𝘸𝘴 𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘨𝘩 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘺 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘭𝘭 𝘢𝘭𝘭𝘰𝘸𝘦𝘥 𝘵𝘰 𝘴𝘱𝘦𝘸 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘪𝘳 𝘩𝘢𝘵𝘦𝘧𝘶𝘭 𝘳𝘩𝘦𝘵𝘰𝘳𝘪𝘤. They want the power to oppress everyone thy hate without consequence.
“They want the power to oppress everyone thy hate without consequence.”
That must be in the tRumpian Bible.
Didn't work in 1700 years. They can continue to dream.
They also want to be martyrs without suffering in any of the ways that makes one a martyr.
Right, because it was the intolerant LGBTQ crowd that was trying to deny her the right to marry the person they love.
You are cruel. You prevent her from sleeping when she thinks about all the fun you have with your husband.
She's had 4 marriages. I've only had one. Am I being selfish?
It’s odd that she wants to deny others the joy of marriage when she indulged in it so much herself.
4 times is the charm or something like that.
It's between your beloved and you.
Yes, their real religion is hatred and martyrbation.
Then why don't the great and wonderful kkkristians at the Liberty Counsel offer to pay these for her?
The whole problem here is the remnants of Puritanism in the US. Mencken said “Puritanism is the haunting fear that someone, somewhere might be happy. These Authoritarians have an overwhelming need to impose their killjoy beliefs on everyone else. I fear for our Nation with these 6 SUPREMES sitting there waiting to usher in Gilead. I would not be at all surprised to see them toss Obergifel and deny access to birth control and medicinal abortion in one term.
I think it's much more related to racist, sexist, and religious bigotry than puritanism. Do not be fooled; the same civil servants and shop owners who want to deny service to gays now, will happily deny service to blacks, interracial couples, jews, women etc. the moment this SCOTUS would allow them to.
Likely some of both.
Agreed. They’ve been planning this for decades and the corrupt sadistic Supreme Court 6 will be the nail in our coffin for generations. Absolutely the root cause is the Puritans. Their authoritarian and theocratic tendencies are ingrained in every aspect of our culture to this day.
Does the word Cunt mean anything to you? because that’s what she is! I don’t care if people don’t like that word. They use it in England all the time no one takes offense. She’s just another right wing hypocritical Christo fascist! Fuck her and all her ilk!
I am a woman and I approve in her case.
Funny how that “c-word” is so cringe here in the states and gets tossed around like communion wafers in the UK.
AUS as well.
I use the excuse of having spent time in the UK and AUS for the reason I include 'cunt' in my vocabulary, although I do try to exercise a modicum of decorum and situational awareness.¹
(¹ Don't need some silly cunt getting their knickers in a tangle unnecessarily. 😉)
We are partial to our four letter words. Our leading literary figure was not above the bawdy joke. Neither was Chaucer. The kissing a beard bit especially.
But the c word is reserved for special occasions. Like this story.
In my experience it is pretty cringe here too.
We used to have a guy on TV called Kenny Everett, one of his characters was a slutty woman by the name of Cupid Stunt. That was in the early 80s. No way would that ever happen now.
It is definitely still a shock value word in the circles I frequent.
Your country sold Benny Hill to mine as the epitome of British humor. It was still aired in the early 2000's. While you kept Doctor Who 😝🤬
*Choke*
We were x-tian newly-weds, in the mid 1960s when a x-tian friend asked if we could take in a lodger. He was a struggling actor and was coming to be in a play in our out-in-the-sticks, small-town theatre for 6 weeks and coudn't afford a hotel. We did, and found out his only other 'major' acting role was as a Dalek in Dr Who. He was 5'2" tall, so could fit the costume. I've never traced him since, he clearly didn't go on to become a star anywhere. But we had our 15minutes of fame. There's not many people who can say they've had a real life Dalek sleeping in their spare bedroom - and a x-tian one at that. We felt very special!
Sorry, with 5 inches more than me, he is not so small 😁
To be honest you can have Doctor Who. Most of the joy of that was in the sets that looked like a light breeze would knock over, and the outside bits almost always filmed in a disused quarry.
Then they rebooted and ruined it. As for Torchwood, that was unbelievable cringe. An adult version of what was a TV show for children.
Ricky Gervais sure tosses it around.
I like that they generally apply it to men, which makes it funny.
I was with you until you said "Fuck her"
Oh fucking hell no!
I'm bi, and I would run the other way!
Kim will have to face bankruptcy! Just like her idol Trump did 6x! Oh noes!!! Like I give a fuck. Let her rot in the hell of her own twisted mind.
She can join Mike “the pillow guy” Lindell in the crying game. Perhaps pool their resources to try and get any member of the élite republicans to give them money to fight back (ha, sure that will happened as soon as a cyberman can do cartwheels and fly by flapping their arms). They both wanted to hurt people that are different from them, and think differently than them. So the racist, homophobic sexist, xenophobic twits deserve everything that happens to them. I won’t shed tears if they both become poor and end up on the street, and they both better not ask for government assistance because that is socialism. We wouldn’t want both of them to suffer under socialism, now would we!
BEING STUPID HAS CONSEQUENCES!
"and it’s therefore unfair to sue her an individual for denying those marriage licenses."
FFS, I don't have a law diploma and I see this argument has no value.
"because it was grounded entirely on the legal fiction of substantive due process."
Yep, like all the civil rights. That's called jurisprudence. They should look into the definition one day.
"The only reason currently existing same-sex marriages wouldn’t be undone is because President Joe Biden signed the “Respect for Marriage Act in 2022”"
Bless him for thinking outside his faith.
"Davis is considered one of the only people with legal standing to even make that request"
Sorry, I don't see how she has standing. She wasn't a pastor being asked to celebrate a gay wedding, she was a public official who waived her religious rights when she is at work. Constitution law 101.
"it seems unlikely that this is the vehicle they would use to do it. It’s a bad case with an even worse character at its core."
Like the christain webdesigner who was asked to make a site celebrating the wedding of two men ? One of them already married to a woman for about a decade. You are too optimist Hemant.
"𝑏𝑒𝑐𝑎𝑢𝑠𝑒 𝑖𝑡 𝑤𝑎𝑠 𝑔𝑟𝑜𝑢𝑛𝑑𝑒𝑑 𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑖𝑟𝑒𝑙𝑦 𝑜𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑙𝑒𝑔𝑎𝑙 𝑓𝑖𝑐𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑜𝑓 𝑠𝑢𝑏𝑠𝑡𝑎𝑛𝑡𝑖𝑣𝑒 𝑑𝑢𝑒 𝑝𝑟𝑜𝑐𝑒𝑠𝑠."
𝑌𝑒𝑝, 𝑙𝑖𝑘𝑒 𝑎𝑙𝑙 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑐𝑖𝑣𝑖𝑙 𝑟𝑖𝑔ℎ𝑡𝑠. 𝑇ℎ𝑎𝑡'𝑠 𝑐𝑎𝑙𝑙𝑒𝑑 𝑗𝑢𝑟𝑖𝑠𝑝𝑟𝑢𝑑𝑒𝑛𝑐𝑒. 𝑇ℎ𝑒𝑦 𝑠ℎ𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑 𝑙𝑜𝑜𝑘 𝑖𝑛𝑡𝑜 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑑𝑒𝑓𝑖𝑛𝑖𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑜𝑛𝑒 𝑑𝑎𝑦.
Keep in mind that Thomas would happily gut all of it. Alito probably would at this point too. So this SCOTUS is at least 2 of 5 votes needed in favor of ruling that the 14th amendment's Section 1 is extremely narrow and only prevents the government from executing you, putting you in jail, or taking your literal property without a hearing. That the 'privileges and immunities' clause essentially means nothing and therefore states and private organizations are free to discriminate in who they hire, who they give marriage licenses to, who they serve food to, etc.
Thomas would literally make segregation legal again, with no qualms at all. Alito wants religious segregation legal, and would probably make all segregation legal just to get there.
Way to saw the branch they are sitting on. If the US become this kind of dystopian nightmare, then SC is useless.
Nobody said conservatives understand the consequences of their actions.
The real war being waged in this country has nothing to do with morality. It's all about raising ignorance and stupidity to the same level as intelligence and facts. This is the worst iteration of the Supreme Court in American history, and there is no telling how they might rule. Why would any country do this to itself just so people like Kim Davis can feel good about themselves?
While religion was already on the decline, the evangelicals hopping into bed with Shitler cannot be doing much for the church’s membership drives.
Is the church not erecting a firewall between them and their Jeebus? The teachings of the man and the current warped actions of the church have nothing in common.
The evangelicals have deluded themselves into believing they can impose their religion on the country with a happy ending, and people will passively submit to their rule. Of all the forms of government people have dreamed up, few things are worse than theocracy.
👆🎯Theocracy is man's worst invention.
They are in the process of reinventing Jeebus. The new and improved Jeebus is quite happy to tell them who should go to the camps to better purify society.
They've reinvented Jesus to the point where, if someone cites the Sermon on the Mount to them, they react in disbelief!
These people have NO IDEA what the bible says!
I saw a quote that an evilgelical preacher, I want to say it was Mohler with the SBC, was lamenting members of his flock were telling him the Beatitudes were too woke...
They know just who they want economically, too. https://www.beliefnet.com/news/2003/09/the-gospel-of-supply-side-jesus.aspx
That cartoon is so right on I can’t even believe it. Supply Side Jesus is alive and well, Rhiannon.
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Given Davis' own marital track record, I'd be worried by Hebrews 13:4 if I were her...
"Let marriage be held in honor among all, and let the marriage bed be undefiled, for God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterous."
Ruh-roh.
"those with sincerely held religious beliefs concerning marriage will find it increasingly difficult to participate in society without running afoul of Obergefell and its effect on other anti-discrimination laws."
What about LGBTQ2SIA+ people's participation in society? We have done more for society than Kim Davis ever did. Hell, "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy" did more for society than she has or ever will.
If treating people like human beings deserving respect causes them a problem with their religious beliefs, then their religious beliefs are shit.
But we knew that already.
Got to say it: I want to know just WHAT IS SO FUCKING HARD about TREATING PEOPLE LIKE 𝗣𝗘𝗢𝗣𝗟𝗘??? What is so complex about that, seriously?
It's against their god's rules.
Fine. Their god can suck a root. 🤢🤮
🖕🖕
Hell, manure does more good to the world than any religion has done. Christian Nationalism is severe mental disorder that really should be considered dangerous to humanity.
Here's same logic:
"those with sincerely held religious white supremacist beliefs concerning serving blacks at restaurants will find it increasingly difficult to participate in society without running afoul of Obergefell and its effect on other anti-discrimination laws."
How about this:
"those with sincerely held religious misogynistic beliefs concerning marriage will find it increasingly difficult to rape their wife without running afoul of Obergefell and its effect on other anti-discrimination laws."
And all the wonderful drag queens spreading love, joy, and reading to kids.
Once again, we hear from this "Christian" who admits she made some poor life choices then 'found Jesus'. Does she then spend the rest of her days on earth helping other people who make poor life choices? Nope. She spends her days punishing people who are not the same kind of Christian that she chose to be. Does she also want to punish people who made similar life choices to those she made? I doubt it.
She wants to punish people who didn't make poor life choices. Ones that were born with a different sexual orientation to her.
Oh it's perfectly alright to be gay, as long as you promise to pretend not to be.
Well stated, Tinker
Her name SHOULD be KAREN Davis ... 'cuz she's sure acting like one. In any case, this spoiled-brat of a supposed "public servant" thought she could pick and choose which citizens she could serve, based on her Closely Held Religious Beliefs™. She was not just wrong, she was obviously and egregiously wrong and rightly earned the price she paid for her wrongheadedness. NOW she wants SCOTUS to patch her booboo for her?
The Supreme Court, if it has any integrity left at all (BIG IF!), should tell her, decisively and emphatically, NO.
Like the murderous boy whose mommy drove him to a demonstration with his AR-15 to shoot protesters, Kyle Rittenhouse. The MAGATS elevate these pathetic individuals to appeal to the MAGAT base. Soon, Davis will have her own crypto coin and the MAGATS will buy that shit up like it’s Chic-Fil-A.
Killer Kyle Rottenhouse.