MAGA is weird. Trump doesn't even go to church and sells fake bibles! 🤣
Trump and Church is an oxymoron. Trump would sell anything if he could make a quick buck off of it. Him grifting Bibles made in China for $3 dollars and selling them for $60 dollars isn’t a suprise.
He says 'America First,' but his Bibles, clothing line, and sneakers are all made in China. He doesn’t support American workers. Kamala’s plan will strengthen the middle class and create more opportunities for entrepreneurship. A future where everyone can thrive! VOTE for a new way forward!
Can't wait to celebrate Harris/Walz epic victory wearing this great rainbow flag "We the People means EVERYONE" shirt on November 5th 👇
You know what – for all conservatives and others for that matter criticism of it – I suspect it will be identity politics that gets Harris and Walz over the line. Just as it got women the right to vote, and helped put paid to Jim Crow laws.
I think the phrase "identity politics" is a very stupid phrase generally used to indicate that some (not you personally) don't understand the fact that people tend to vote for, or against, things that will negatively affect their lives. Do they think women or POC are going to vote against themselves? As a woman voting against fuckery that curtails me and/or others rights is just common sense.
Walters should be held personally liable for this lawsuit, since it was his idea to put forward a solution in search of a problem. One thing secular Bible scholars make clear is that the book is NOT history. There is virtually no independent corroboration for any part of it. None what so ever for the Jesus story. I will never accept the idea the genuine word of God would be subject to never-ending debate. Particularly in light of the horrific consequences of that debate. The Thirty Years War comes to mind.
Total agreement. A great deal of these issues should be utterly squelched by making the defendants PERSONALLY LIABLE for any monetary penalty. Indeed, that would make for a serious and possibly very effective deterrent.
Sadly, Walters will almost certainly arrange for the school board or the state government to pay his fines ... and he'll just keep on keepin' on. 😝
I have read that a lot of Republicans in the legislature are getting fed up with him. They may agree with him, but they know his antics are going to result in lawsuits the state cannot win.
An Oklahoma news program that truly is bipartisan, respectful, and good to watch. It has the moderator, a fiery old democrat, and pretty level headed Republican (he doesn't defend Trump). It airs for 30 minutes every Sunday morning.
I don’t know - we’ve had a fun time debating exactly what was meant by biblical sections. Got two Talmud books about it, and my kids’ interpretation and discussion was an important part of their bar mitzvot. A big part of our faith is taking the “historically accurate” stuff (you know, in the original Hebrew or Aramaic) and debating what it means for modern life.
This is where I have a problem because I simply cannot accept the idea the word of God would ever be subject to debate. I’m unimpressed by ancient writings where it involves human interaction with God, because there is simply no independent corroboration for any of it.
I don’t think HaShem would create us with free will and then get surprised that we’re going to argue the details. Like, remember to keep holy the sabbath day - but also, there’s an exception, because if you need to do work to save somebody’s life or health, then you do it. Life and living is messy, and culture and words change meaning over time.
I mean, read Shakespeare and look at the “translation” of what the phrases mean in a cultural context of the time. And then take that through translations and such - so the holy words, written 3,000 years ago, don’t mean the same thing as they used to mean.
"2.6 The supplier's Bible must not contain . . . additional commentary"
Sorry, the Trump Bible doesn't qualify. It contains the lyrics to that stupid song (its original raison d'etre before it transitioned to Trumpdom) which arguably qualifies as "additional commentary" and renders it unsuitable for Oklahoma's requirements. Better haul out the Sharpie and get to changing that request again, doof.
He actually didn't, though (try to be historically accurate).
He ordered his translators to follow the translation of a 1568 English version of bible as much as possible, not any other or older source material. He also told them to use the vulgar (i.e. commonly used in England at the time) names for biblical authors, figures, and saints, rather than going back to source material.
"36 mega Christian Churches in Alabama, but it was and Native American Cascino that step up and offered to pay for all the funerals of those who died in a tornado."
I know this is not the subject, but it is about how church money (donations) are not being well spent by Christians.
"The ACLU, the ACLU of Oklahoma, Americans United for Separation of Church and State, the Freedom From Religion Foundation, and the Oklahoma Appleseed Center for Law & Justice are representing more than 30 Oklahomans who have a variety of reasons for not wanting the Bible Mandate to go into effect."
I'm proud to be a long-time member of three of those organizations, and I'll be reviewing my autopay dues payments to see if I can increase my donations. Kick his ass!
Yeah, Sue the bastard. The only problem is, his side of the lawsuit will be paid for out of public funds I guarantee. It really should be some personal punishment it seems to me for people who use their jobs for evil.😎
OT: Take this with a giant grain of salt, but I got a compliment on my 'Cats for Kamala' sign this afternoon. From a door-to-door salesman trying to sell me replacement windows.
Hey, Ryan! Actions have CONSEQUENCES! You wanted to disregard the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment and figured that it was okay and you could get away with it.
WRONG! I would heartily suggest you find yourself a GOOD LAWYER ... 'cuz you're going to need one!
He is asking Oklahomans to fund Trump’s campaign. The Bible sales are a workaround for campaign finance laws and Walters is trying to siphon 6 million dollars from the state to Trump. This is worse than corrupt.
Your state ranks next-to-last in Education. Why does Ryan Walters still have a job? If a football coach had the kind of record he's got, he'd have been out on his wallet a long time ago.
MAGA is weird. Trump doesn't even go to church and sells fake bibles! 🤣
Trump and Church is an oxymoron. Trump would sell anything if he could make a quick buck off of it. Him grifting Bibles made in China for $3 dollars and selling them for $60 dollars isn’t a suprise.
He says 'America First,' but his Bibles, clothing line, and sneakers are all made in China. He doesn’t support American workers. Kamala’s plan will strengthen the middle class and create more opportunities for entrepreneurship. A future where everyone can thrive! VOTE for a new way forward!
Can't wait to celebrate Harris/Walz epic victory wearing this great rainbow flag "We the People means EVERYONE" shirt on November 5th 👇
https://libtees-2.creator-spring.com/listing/wtpmelb
I'll be celebrating in the streets like everyone else!
You know what – for all conservatives and others for that matter criticism of it – I suspect it will be identity politics that gets Harris and Walz over the line. Just as it got women the right to vote, and helped put paid to Jim Crow laws.
I think the phrase "identity politics" is a very stupid phrase generally used to indicate that some (not you personally) don't understand the fact that people tend to vote for, or against, things that will negatively affect their lives. Do they think women or POC are going to vote against themselves? As a woman voting against fuckery that curtails me and/or others rights is just common sense.
Love this t-shirt!!!!
Walters should be held personally liable for this lawsuit, since it was his idea to put forward a solution in search of a problem. One thing secular Bible scholars make clear is that the book is NOT history. There is virtually no independent corroboration for any part of it. None what so ever for the Jesus story. I will never accept the idea the genuine word of God would be subject to never-ending debate. Particularly in light of the horrific consequences of that debate. The Thirty Years War comes to mind.
Total agreement. A great deal of these issues should be utterly squelched by making the defendants PERSONALLY LIABLE for any monetary penalty. Indeed, that would make for a serious and possibly very effective deterrent.
Sadly, Walters will almost certainly arrange for the school board or the state government to pay his fines ... and he'll just keep on keepin' on. 😝
I have read that a lot of Republicans in the legislature are getting fed up with him. They may agree with him, but they know his antics are going to result in lawsuits the state cannot win.
https://kfor.com/video/flash-point-bibles-in-classrooms-and-doj-probes/10082085
An Oklahoma news program that truly is bipartisan, respectful, and good to watch. It has the moderator, a fiery old democrat, and pretty level headed Republican (he doesn't defend Trump). It airs for 30 minutes every Sunday morning.
"It's just the Bible – it's not gospel." Dara OBriain
I don’t know - we’ve had a fun time debating exactly what was meant by biblical sections. Got two Talmud books about it, and my kids’ interpretation and discussion was an important part of their bar mitzvot. A big part of our faith is taking the “historically accurate” stuff (you know, in the original Hebrew or Aramaic) and debating what it means for modern life.
This is where I have a problem because I simply cannot accept the idea the word of God would ever be subject to debate. I’m unimpressed by ancient writings where it involves human interaction with God, because there is simply no independent corroboration for any of it.
I don’t think HaShem would create us with free will and then get surprised that we’re going to argue the details. Like, remember to keep holy the sabbath day - but also, there’s an exception, because if you need to do work to save somebody’s life or health, then you do it. Life and living is messy, and culture and words change meaning over time.
I mean, read Shakespeare and look at the “translation” of what the phrases mean in a cultural context of the time. And then take that through translations and such - so the holy words, written 3,000 years ago, don’t mean the same thing as they used to mean.
The Trump bible defines the term “holy shit”.
What happens when the pope eats Taco Bell?
HOLY DIARRHEA!!!
Taco Bell erupts from both ends in sheer horror and disgust.
Exorcist style ?
Yeah.
Donald Von Shitzinpants
"2.6 The supplier's Bible must not contain . . . additional commentary"
Sorry, the Trump Bible doesn't qualify. It contains the lyrics to that stupid song (its original raison d'etre before it transitioned to Trumpdom) which arguably qualifies as "additional commentary" and renders it unsuitable for Oklahoma's requirements. Better haul out the Sharpie and get to changing that request again, doof.
That jingoistic crap is so phony it makes me want to vomit.
Who decided that KJV was/is historically accurate?
Someone who doesn't know the meaning of "historically" or "accurate".
You mean like the Texas legislature? "The Founding Myth" should be required reading.
Excellent book!
They don’t even know who King James was or why that Bible was commissioned in the first place.
Hint: it was so King James can fuck his gay lover guilt-free.
I know! I laugh so hard at them.
Source?
https://mediachomp.com/the-gay-escapades-of-king-james/
Thank you! I was not aware of this.
I was going to reply, but your comment is so perfect, I will congratulate you instead.
Some dude from England and Scotland named Jim.
And even King Jimmy basically stole it from Tyndale.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyndale_Bible#Impact_on_English_Bibles
Yeah. That guy. I hear $3M might be handy for all the earthquake damage in OK.
He actually didn't, though (try to be historically accurate).
He ordered his translators to follow the translation of a 1568 English version of bible as much as possible, not any other or older source material. He also told them to use the vulgar (i.e. commonly used in England at the time) names for biblical authors, figures, and saints, rather than going back to source material.
So, don't blame this idiocy on him. ;)
Trump Bible:
"This large print Bible will be perfect to take to church, a bible study, work, travel,..."
Insurrections, coup d'états, riots, etc.
If your guillotine is wobbly, you can put it under one of the legs.
Yay!!!! Sue Ryan Walters!! He so fking deserves it!!! Keep separation of church and state SEPARATED.
Separate Walters from his job, too.
And take that fucking Raichick hater with him.
The generosity of "Christian's charity"
"36 mega Christian Churches in Alabama, but it was and Native American Cascino that step up and offered to pay for all the funerals of those who died in a tornado."
I know this is not the subject, but it is about how church money (donations) are not being well spent by Christians.
NEVER help the living.
They aren’t even helping the dead.
They don't help, they just put words in their mouths.
🎯
"The ACLU, the ACLU of Oklahoma, Americans United for Separation of Church and State, the Freedom From Religion Foundation, and the Oklahoma Appleseed Center for Law & Justice are representing more than 30 Oklahomans who have a variety of reasons for not wanting the Bible Mandate to go into effect."
I'm proud to be a long-time member of three of those organizations, and I'll be reviewing my autopay dues payments to see if I can increase my donations. Kick his ass!
Yeah, Sue the bastard. The only problem is, his side of the lawsuit will be paid for out of public funds I guarantee. It really should be some personal punishment it seems to me for people who use their jobs for evil.😎
OT: Take this with a giant grain of salt, but I got a compliment on my 'Cats for Kamala' sign this afternoon. From a door-to-door salesman trying to sell me replacement windows.
To be fair, he was trying to sell you something. He is hardly likely to call you sperm of the devil.😇
He'd better not. That's MY title.
Did you impregnate all women of childbearing age in a British village in 1960 ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Si8NcfZyGUI
"Good afternoon, sir -- hate your sign -- may I talk to you about windows today?"
or the meme "I saw the trump sign in your yard and know you'll buy anything I'm selling"
Wow, I never thought of that -- A snake oil conman could do very well for himself by just following the Trump signs.
https://martialartsfraudsandfakes.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/large-grain-of-salt.jpg
Did you buy new windows?
They’re coming by Saturday to give me an estimate. But I’m hoping to move in the next 6 months so I’m not going to be spending money on new windows.
It is outrageous. What is happening in Oklahoma under this religious fanatic.
Hey, Ryan! Actions have CONSEQUENCES! You wanted to disregard the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment and figured that it was okay and you could get away with it.
WRONG! I would heartily suggest you find yourself a GOOD LAWYER ... 'cuz you're going to need one!
Seems that only lawyers benefit from this nonsense. On taxpayers dime!
He can ask drumpster to recommend one or a dozen.
Ooooo, and likely those will be real WEINERS, too! 😝
It's to better disbar them.
FUCK KKKons.
Dude says he'll use US military force against "the enemy within." That's you. That's me. And he means it.
And he called what happened on January 6th "a day of love." Un-fucking-believable.
And the MAGAs will still vote for him. That's even more unfuckingbelievable
He is asking Oklahomans to fund Trump’s campaign. The Bible sales are a workaround for campaign finance laws and Walters is trying to siphon 6 million dollars from the state to Trump. This is worse than corrupt.
He is asking Oklahomans to fund Trump’s legal bills. FTFY : )
To Oklahomans...
Your state ranks next-to-last in Education. Why does Ryan Walters still have a job? If a football coach had the kind of record he's got, he'd have been out on his wallet a long time ago.
Coaches with a lot better record have nearly been lynched. (Okay, that's hyperbole, but the hatred is real)