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Joe King's avatar

The fact that Walters wants a "competency" test for teachers from states at the top of the national rankings to be allowed to teach in his state, currently ranked last, is all the evidence you need that it isn't about education, but ideological purity for indoctrination.

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Linda's avatar

I can’t even look at this guy, he’s terrifying. Two black holes for eyes that sink back into his head. Is there a person in there anymore? I’d say not.

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Lynn Veit's avatar

If he ever stops farting out conservative bullshit talking points long enough to break out of his skin suit, we'll see him in all his Slitheen glory.

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Linda's avatar

😂

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Walt Svirsky's avatar

It’s hard to believe how far our country has deliberately fallen. Ryan Walters, to any thinking human, is a coyote in the hen house. A 💯 percent disaster for the educational requirements of Oklahoma, he continues on, as Shitler’s henchman, with impunity.

And don’t we all love Ryan as a blonde?

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Straw's avatar

I'm not really surprised how far your country has fallen. It has been obvious for some years that way too many people don't understand how to cope with your society and other people not identical to themselves. .

I mean, you had segregated schools for decades. And of course, people who believe they are living in the best country that ever existed find it hard to better themselves and the country.

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Walt Svirsky's avatar

They taught me that shit and I bought it, hook, line & sinker. It’s embarrassing, Straw.

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Lynn Veit's avatar

No.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

PragerU

rationalwiki.org/wiki/PragerU

The appropriately monikered PU says it themselves: "Prager University is not an accredited academic institution and does not offer certification or diplomas."

IOW, they are worse than useless.

(If anyone had trouble with the link, it's fixed)

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Joe King's avatar

Prager U = Propaganda Unlimited.

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Walt Svirsky's avatar

Beat me to it, Joe 🤐

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Lynn Veit's avatar

The only degree you can earn in a place like that is a BS in Pricktology.*

*Men only for the most part, but also applies to certain MAGA women of the Candace Owens/Joni Earnst ilk. The rest of you worthless Jezebels, quit worrying about shoes, git your ass back in attair kitchen and start making sammiches and pumping out younguns.

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Walt Svirsky's avatar

Propaganda U is more like it. Created by morons, for morons.

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Chris Titchmarsh's avatar

There are as authentic as the (not) Discovery Institute.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

I remain ashamed that DI is HQd in my city. How did THAT happen? We’re the least-religious large metro area in the country.

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XJC's avatar

Great weather? Accessible NBA team?

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Old Man Shadow's avatar

Every accusation is a confession. Conservatives want to turn education into propaganda factories.

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Val Uptuous NotAgain's avatar

That was clear a mile back when they started talking about PragerU. PU is just a propaganda machine, only idiot MAGA family members believe anything that comes out of it.

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Walt Svirsky's avatar

Following in the hallowed footsteps of Bad Vlad. There is no question about it now. The Republicons are following Russian standards to transform our country. The big, bad, Russia hating Republicons are kissing Russian ass.

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Zorginipsoundsor's avatar

I remember a time when repukes liked to say, 'better dead than red.' Now look at them, Putin is an object of worship.

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Lynn Veit's avatar

Indeed. I think Russia was the most hated country on earth back then.

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Lynn Veit's avatar

Are we now officially in The Outer Limits of The Twilight Zone?

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cdbunch's avatar

Since the Grandma in the Pantsuit lost the election.

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Lynn Veit's avatar

YES!!

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Joan the Dork's avatar

I can't fathom how there are enough hours in the day for conservatives to spend so much of their time thinking about trans folks' genitals. I mean, for shit's sake, I've got a set of my own, and I think about them when I wash, wank, and wee, and that's about it. I can't imagine getting 𝘢𝘯𝘺𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨 useful done if I thought about my junk as often as Ryan Walters thinks about my junk, and I gotta say, while ordinarily it'd be pretty flattering to have someone be so obsessed with my junk, it's just a 𝘭𝘪𝘵𝘵𝘭𝘦 bit creepy when it's a reject from a Klan rally modeling for a Hitlerjugen recruitment poster while posing as a public official in Oklahoma. I've got a 𝘭𝘰𝘵 of kinks, but that ain't one of them.

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ericc's avatar

Conservative politicians will talk about it for as long as it gets them votes, and conservative evangelists will talk about it as long as it gets them clicks/views/profit.

Which is probably a long time, because we humans seem to love titillating topics. I guarantee you that when the topic of trans rights no longer gets clicks, politicians and rabble-rousers will still be talking about *someone's* genitals and how they use them, just maybe not trans people's.

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Lynn Veit's avatar

That's what happens when one tries to deny perfectly natural hormonal drives that are part and parcel of being human. When something like that is presented as shameful and is forbidden and denied, well it ain't going away. It's going to come out as this hateful obsession with what everyone else is doing with THEIR junk.

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Bensnewlogin's avatar

Then you just have to try harder.

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Sko Hayes's avatar

But could TRUMP pass this test?

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larry parker's avatar

Someone would have to read it for him. But like Hemant said, you can't fail. You can't move on to the next question until you get the "reich" answer.

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

Not if he has to answer on a sheet of paper without pictures and bullet points.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

He'd answer every question with a single word in all caps: "TARIFFS!!!"

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Psittacus Ebrius's avatar

Or "FIFTH".

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Joe King's avatar

And his acolyte Walters would score it 110 % correct.

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Boreal's avatar

Arrest, trial, conviction, sentencing, shiv.

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Richard S. Russell's avatar

There's a term within prisons for the inmates that even fellow inmates consider the lowest of the low: "short eyes" — those who have eyes for short people (that is, kids), and not because they're just fond of the little tykes.

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

Works for me and sooner, better.

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Walt Svirsky's avatar

Or, arrest, trial, incarceration, hung to tenderize and soon, a food supply for the other incarcerated MAGATS. How fun would it be to feed Shitler hocks to Nosferatu Miller?

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Walt Svirsky's avatar

The only positive test Shitler ever took was one for syphilis.

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

Donnie is still hung on man-woman-camera-tv-et-cetera. As long as he as that, he's happy.

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Paolo Biscotto's avatar

If it were presented as a video with a botoxed-and-filled Fox hostess slowly reading the questions and the answer choices, he would stumble plenty but he would make it to the end.

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Maltnothops's avatar

Just imagine how many Sharpie checkmarks would on his screen.

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Holytape's avatar

Yes. Person, man,woman,camera television. And he can identify the camel. Although he called it a humpy-horse.

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Val Uptuous NotAgain's avatar

“(“Answer”: To preserve fairness, safety, and integrity for both sexes)”

Safety for creepy old men to ogle children’s private parts. That’s all this trans panic shit has lead to, laws requiring adult inspection of children’s genitals. And in this state, deaths of children who don’t conform to strict binary gender standards. Something Walters celebrated when it happened in OK. The ghoul.

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oraxx's avatar

Prager U. isn't an actual university and they have no more credibility than Alex Jones. I cannot imagine what qualifies them to decide who is, or is not, a real American. It's as absurd as trying to determine who is a TRUE Christian. A question that has spilled enough blood to float the Navy. Evidently, Walters thinks Jesus and right-wing bombast are all it will take to turn Oklahoma's awful schools around. The goal here is to produce a crop of goose-stepping, Bible-thumping warriors for Jesus.

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RegularJoe's avatar

PragerU: Because TrumpU is closed, and you're too stupid to pass the entrance exams for Dunning-Kruger Community College.

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Holytape's avatar

So let's follow the logical conclusion of the answers. There are two ways to determine the gender of a child. Either by chromosome years or visual inspection. Since it is unlikely that the state is willing to pay for a chromosome test for every single student, second choice is the only option left. So Ryan wants every student to have the genitals examined by the adult student staff. Further more, since "Being told by a fellow staff member" isn't a choice. Every adult will have to examine the genitals of every student in their care. Which would explain why Kansas is changing its name to Epsteinstan.

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Zorginipsoundsor's avatar

Who is going to examine the genitalia of the teachers? 🤔

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Die Anyway's avatar

Hey, new business idea.... Genital Exams R Us. We can get contracts all over the country.

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Joan the Dork's avatar

OT- A little wingnut-on-wingnut violence to brighten up your day: https://apnews.com/article/newsmax-fox-network-sued-antitrust-bc4f7f3eb4132225abb64672678a48f8

Newsmax, aka Fox News' dumber, angrier racist cousin, is suing Fox News, aka Newsmax's richer, more obnoxious racist cousin, for allegedly (definitely) violating antitrust laws by engaging in anti-competitive business practices to prevent Newsmax from encroaching on its market share of the fascist wingnutosphere.

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John Smith's avatar

goddamm fucking idiotic stupid suing another goddamm fucking moronic stupid!!!!

What a fuckfest of racism, sexism, homophobia, xenophobia, etc.

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OwossoHarpist's avatar

Prager sounds like "Prego spaghetti sauce."

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

I suspect that Prager is emphatically inedible!

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cdbunch's avatar

I still remember the PU video when young adults were allowed to stay on their parents' health insurance until they were 26. "Kids used to be proud to be independent of their parents" They still are when they can afford to support themselves with that college degree and $90+k in debt (state school, in-state tuition)

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NOGODZ20's avatar

It's in there.

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Joe King's avatar

𝑊ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑖𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑢𝑛𝑑𝑎𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑎𝑙 𝑏𝑖𝑜𝑙𝑜𝑔𝑖𝑐𝑎𝑙 𝑑𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑛𝑐𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑏𝑒𝑡𝑤𝑒𝑒𝑛 𝑚𝑎𝑙𝑒𝑠 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑓𝑒𝑚𝑎𝑙𝑒𝑠? (“𝐴𝑛𝑠𝑤𝑒𝑟”: 𝐶ℎ𝑟𝑜𝑚𝑜𝑠𝑜𝑚𝑒𝑠 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑟𝑒𝑝𝑟𝑜𝑑𝑢𝑐𝑡𝑖𝑣𝑒 𝑎𝑛𝑎𝑡𝑜𝑚𝑦)

Real answer: Karyotype (chromosomes), phenotype, hormonal balancr, gonads, genitalia. Sometimes these characteristics do not match each other, an individual like that is considered intersex. This also usually, but not always, lines up with gender.

𝐻𝑜𝑤 𝑖𝑠 𝑎 𝑐ℎ𝑖𝑙𝑑’𝑠 𝑏𝑖𝑜𝑙𝑜𝑔𝑖𝑐𝑎𝑙 𝑠𝑒𝑥 𝑡𝑦𝑝𝑖𝑐𝑎𝑙𝑙𝑦 𝑖𝑑𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑖𝑓𝑖𝑒𝑑?

(“𝐴𝑛𝑠𝑤𝑒𝑟”: 𝑉𝑖𝑠𝑢𝑎𝑙 𝑎𝑛𝑎𝑡𝑜𝑚𝑖𝑐𝑎𝑙 𝑜𝑏𝑠𝑒𝑟𝑣𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑐ℎ𝑟𝑜𝑚𝑜𝑠𝑜𝑚𝑒𝑠)

Sex is usually assigned at birth by examining the genitalia, however, there are cases of ambiguous genitalia indicative of a possible intersex condition. Best practice according to the data is to allow the child to develop then provide medical treatment to help the child's phenotype more closely match their gender, if the child desires.

𝑊ℎ𝑖𝑐ℎ 𝑐ℎ𝑟𝑜𝑚𝑜𝑠𝑜𝑚𝑒 𝑝𝑎𝑖𝑟 𝑑𝑒𝑡𝑒𝑟𝑚𝑖𝑛𝑒𝑠 𝑏𝑖𝑜𝑙𝑜𝑔𝑖𝑐𝑎𝑙 𝑠𝑒𝑥 𝑖𝑛 ℎ𝑢𝑚𝑎𝑛𝑠?

(“𝐴𝑛𝑠𝑤𝑒𝑟”: 𝑋𝑋/𝑋𝑌)

Mostly the X and Y chromosomes. But not always. (For further information: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Intersex_variations)

𝑊ℎ𝑦 𝑖𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑑𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑛𝑐𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑏𝑒𝑡𝑤𝑒𝑒𝑛 𝑚𝑎𝑙𝑒 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑓𝑒𝑚𝑎𝑙𝑒 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑠𝑖𝑑𝑒𝑟𝑒𝑑 𝑖𝑚𝑝𝑜𝑟𝑡𝑎𝑛𝑡 𝑖𝑛 𝑎𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑠 𝑙𝑖𝑘𝑒 𝑠𝑝𝑜𝑟𝑡𝑠 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑝𝑟𝑖𝑣𝑎𝑐𝑦?

(“𝐴𝑛𝑠𝑤𝑒𝑟”: 𝑇𝑜 𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑒𝑟𝑣𝑒 𝑓𝑎𝑖𝑟𝑛𝑒𝑠𝑠, 𝑠𝑎𝑓𝑒𝑡𝑦, 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑖𝑛𝑡𝑒𝑔𝑟𝑖𝑡𝑦 𝑓𝑜𝑟 𝑏𝑜𝑡ℎ 𝑠𝑒𝑥𝑒𝑠)

Generally, because individuals have a fundamental right to be respected for who they are. The current sex segregation in this country is generally a good thing, but it shouldn't be police to the point of harassing individuals who do not appear stereotypically male or female. The current sports segregation could be replaced by other schemes which account for the fact that there is considerable overlap in the abilities of male and female athletes, as well as the fact that nonbinary people exist, and do not quite fit into "men's" or "women's" sports.

How did I do?

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

Nope, nope, nope, WAY too complicated. Walters want simple and easy and obviously reductive (that's become a favorite word of mine as it comes to people like Wally lately). He can't deal with the subtleties and nuances of sexuality and gender, and besides, his holey book doesn't mention them, so neither will he.

And the kids will pay the price for his obtuseness.

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Joe King's avatar

He wants reality to be as simple and black and white as his interpretation of his favorite book he hasn't read. And he wants children to become obedient drones parroting his simplistic view of the world. He is an idiot authoritarian who should be nowhere near the education of children.

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ericc's avatar

If an adult is identifying a schoolchild's sex by "anatomical observation", they should probably be going to jail. The vast majority of the time, it's through speech: the adult uses a gender marker in their speech, if it's wrong the child corrects them, the adult apologizes and uses the corrected one, and the world moves on.

It's amazing how easy it is, if one isn't trying to be nasty to trans kids.

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My gut reaction to the 'important in privacy' question is to say: it's objectively not. This is a societal value. Plenty of cultures haven't necessarily thought it was important at all.

That includes new testament peoples. Anyone who has seen a Roman public toilet should realize that Mary, Mary Magdalene, the disciples, Jesus, Joseph, all of a sat down and shat next to each other, boys and girls together, no walls, partitions, separate facilities. That doesn't make it better or worse than our system, but it is to point out that the people they revere so much didn't have most of the privacy rules these folks defend as necessary.

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John Smith's avatar

Like the MAGAS know anything about historical cultures of the ancient world. The MAGAS don’t know much about anything unless they were told by their clergy and leadership what to think on any subject!

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Chris Titchmarsh's avatar

Ask Graham Linehan, Richard Dawkins, and J K Rowling. They will tell you that up you got it all wrong. In other words, you did very well.

Is it fair that top athletes have more efficient cardiovascular systems and muscles to the average person? Is it fair that Michael Phelps has flippers for feet? Top level sport is NOT FAIR. That is the whole point of competition.

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Walt Svirsky's avatar

Well stated, Joe. It takes about 5 minutes of research to understand that the world is much much more than XX/XY.

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Val Uptuous NotAgain's avatar

“When your state lies”

As all repubelican states do.

“at the bottom of national education rankings…”

Oh, that makes sense too.

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Holytape's avatar

Is Donald Trump

A. The best president.

B. The bestest president and the most handsome man in the entire universe verse.

C. The only man that Jesus is envious of because Trump had the World's most perfect penis.

D. All of the above.

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Boreal's avatar

E. A corpse in funeral makeup.

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larry parker's avatar

A. The best worse.

B. His universe.

C. Who knew tiny mushrooms were perfect?

D. What was the question?

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cdbunch's avatar

And water is wet. They only care about children when they want more white people or they can use them to control women. When its a rich white fetus, triple word score.

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Lynn Veit's avatar

Why does it seem so much like they're "culling the herd?" Because I can't really think of any other motive for taking away proven preventive healthcare from people...unless they actually *want* a lot of people to die and be rid of the excess population? Fewer people consuming resources, more for them? Am I being too pessimistic/paranoid?

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Straw's avatar

I think you are spot on.

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