They can't keep their dick, or their religion in their pants, and their noses are in everyone else's genitals, Fucking Evangenitals as my friend calls them.
"Christian -n. One who believes that the New Testament is a divinely inspired book admirably suited to the spiritual needs of his neighbor."
-Ambrose Bierce, Devil's Dictionary, 1911.
The tendency to focus their rule-making on other people is much much older than today's dominionists, and very common. Which is probably why Jesus preached against it. :)
And their jesus is sooooo moral. Since he can see the past, present, future and is all powerful-he looks downon all the murders, rapes, and every other crime that happens-AND DOES NOTHING.. You can't get much more moral than that can you?
Abortion bill: "I don't care if doctors get punished, lets execute the evil sluts." Bloodlust, pure and simple.
Covenant Marriage bill: "I don't care if atheists lie about the God thing, I just want to inflate the numbers so we can prove that Oklahoma is 100% Christian." Theocracy the real agenda.
No-fault divorce: "We need to force the Covenent Marriage thing by getting rid of any other option." Loveless marriage, abusive marriage, he doesn't care. Those women better stay in the kitchen and make him a sammich!
By any sane metric, he is not opposing "evil", he is promoting it.
Every single one of his bills is straight out of Project 2025. What one of the Dems on the panel should have asked, in the hearing, is why none of his bills included penalties for masturbation or fellatio. Because they kill baby seeds.
Outlawing abortion: capital murder, evidence is just accusations. Outlawed masturbation: 4th degree misdemeanor, small fine, evidence at least two credible eyewitnesses and a DNA match.
If having an abortion, which would be completely impossible to differentiate between a miscarriage, would we hold the baby responsible for murder when the pregnant person dies from childbirth or complications of pregnancy? I mean, they killed the pregnant person. Can we hold the babies responsible for attempted murder for injuries and disabilities caused by carrying to term?
Or should we rather hold these fucking asshole politicians responsible for the pregnant people they are killing with these heartless policies. And this abortion ban, while I’m glad it didn’t pass, is nothing considering the fucking US congress is working on a federal ban on abortion. It won’t matter what n a few months anyway. No one will have access. And we all will face the skyrocketing maternal mortality rate.
No abortion is murder because all of them are self defense. Especially in our country where access to the necessary healthcare to mitigate the risks of pregnancy is so out of reach for pretty much 99% of the population.
Whatever, on to the revolution. Off with their heads.
It would be interesting to comb through cis women and trans men in childbearing age death certificate in uterus bearers killer states and count how many have an unclear cause of death.
Without doing any analysis I'd bet a good chunk of money the maternal death rate is higher in abortion-restricted states. But correlation is not causation, and in this case the big confounding factor is poverty, which also tends to be higher in southern and red states and is probably the main cause.
Re correlation: many of the states with abortion restrictions also have got poor healthcare due to eg no Medicaid (?)expansion. Which means that there is very little antenatal care available.
Which in turn means that some difficult pregnancies are only detected when the woman turns up in A&E with complications.
Some of these states have got ‘maternity deserts’ where a pregnant person will have to travel to the next county or the next one over to get care.
And yet these states seem more interested in faffing around with ‘ten commandment requirements in schools’ rather than sorting out real problems for their citizens.
No-one has ever died for a lack of a religious prayer plaque in a public building, but they have died from being homeless or from being unable to get medical care!
Where the increase in mortality does align with the start of the band, correlation can be assumed causation. Where other factors have no changes. Looking at Texas, their mortality rate does spike with the start of their ban and all other factors have not changed.
Your state is ranked 49th in both Health Care and Education. Got any bills to turn around those numbers? How's that? You'll have to speak up because I can't hear over the crickets.
This guy is a MAGA and yet thinks he still has some moral high ground to stand on. The leader of his cult is a convicted felon, adjudicated rapist, liar and self-dealing grifter, but we're supposed to take advice on 'normalcy, decency and morality' from one his cult members? Yeah. And I'll take advice on caring for children from catholic priests. Irony called in sick with a migraine.
Get off your high horse before you get a nose bleed, Dusty, you misogynist creep.
Dust Bunny Deevers should be vacuumed up and tossed in the trash with the other dirt, like Ryan Walters. Good on the OK lege for shutting this shit down.
"Senators in opposition to the measure expressed concerns that it was unconstitutional, WOULD LEAD TO OTHER RELIGIOUS MONUMENTS and went against the will of the people."
They are not obvious at all.
I have a proposition for the not good senator who loves so much the death penalty. Let yourself be sued and condemned to death for the families of women who will die from a miscarriage going wrong.
They may be saying the (not so) quiet part out loud a bit there, but I do find it a little amusing that 𝘴𝘰𝘮𝘦 Republicans are finally developing enough foresight to realize that the TST is waiting in the wings with a Baphomet statue if they plant conspicuous Nat-C displays on public property.
The only problem there is you can only apply the death penalty once. Life in prison, his parole date pushed back a decade for each victim. That should get him at least a few centuries before his first parole hearing. Gen pop will not be kind to someone responsible for that many dead women.
The Victorians-in-power certainly did not like blasphemy and would go to great lengths to suppress it, especially to keep the common people ignorant of any criticism of Christian religion.
It would be nice to think that Deevers would learn from this setback, but who are we kidding? I have little doubt but that he'll try again, possibly with these same bills rebranded or with variations on those themes, but I can't imagine that he'll be much daunted by the actions of the committee.
Still, it tells me that there is at least some semblance of common sense in the Oklahoma legislature, and that is seriously encouraging. Let's hope they keep it up.
If he puts provisions for punishing the doctors as well, he might get them to pass the abortion bill. The question about charging doctors as accesory to murder seemed to indicate that the bloodlust he showed did not go far enough for some of his colleagues.
And Texas, Louisiana, Arkansas, Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia, Florida, Tennessee, South Carolina. The list could go on. Soon there may only be 5 states with practicing obstetricians.
Sadly, that is exactly what the Gawd-botherers want. The only OB/Gyns left will be right-wing asshole who instead giving standard of care will tell them "suffer bitch."
The religious right will never run out of people they want to control, or how much they want to control them. This goes double for women. Mixing religion and government is the same terrible idea it has always been, and these despicable proposals are a further demonstration of that. No theocracy was ever a bastion of intellectual freedom and human rights, and yet this seems to be what they're after.
“When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe nothing can stand in their way. Their movements become headlong — faster and faster and faster. They put aside all thoughts of obstacles and forget the precipice does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it’s too late.” - Frank Herbert
With a name like Dusty Deevers? Dusty go take an airplane ride somewhere,anywhere 70% chance it will crash. I most certainly hope so. Glad there are people in Oklahoma without stupid names who saw through your bullshit. Fuck you Dusty Deevers
I was just over at Jessica Valenti's substack (Abortion Every Day) and she was writing about Deevers as well (he wants to be able to charge women who seek abortions with first degree murder).
Well it takes two to tango so make the men accountable too ( everybody seems to forget there are men involved in a pregnancy--no! Yes!) Once you get the men involved it's like yah just kidding. So I know! Don't have it be first degree murder in the first place! Wow just solved everything right there.
I subscribe to her too, and nearly always restack her info. She's light-years ahead of the corporate owned press, who seem to know absolutely nothing about biology.
Thanks. I will tell that to those who shall travel, SIL and daughter. We are not visiting US again before there is a reasonable safe government installed.
In addition to all of the issues they already have with staying turned on, bursting into flames, and getting a little bit damp... steel body panels held on by defective glue are now falling off of Muskrat dumpsters traveling at highway speeds.
I was just thinking about that same thing. Glue? Fucking GLUE?!?
Jesus h Christ onna Harley, I'd like to know who made that cement-headed call. That is someone who should not be allowed out of the house unsupervised, and definitely kept away from sharp objects.
Hell, even the junkions won’t touch Musk’s cybertrucks. (Junkions were transformers from transformers Generation 1 cartoon t.v series, for those who may not know who the junkion are).
Funny how their morality is always about controlling the most intimate de isions of others and never about putting a check on greed and selfishness.
I'm beyond sick of the Christians who think their religiosity entitles them to a say in other people's personal choices.
They can't keep their dick, or their religion in their pants, and their noses are in everyone else's genitals, Fucking Evangenitals as my friend calls them.
To repeat from downthread:
"Christian -n. One who believes that the New Testament is a divinely inspired book admirably suited to the spiritual needs of his neighbor."
-Ambrose Bierce, Devil's Dictionary, 1911.
The tendency to focus their rule-making on other people is much much older than today's dominionists, and very common. Which is probably why Jesus preached against it. :)
And their jesus is sooooo moral. Since he can see the past, present, future and is all powerful-he looks downon all the murders, rapes, and every other crime that happens-AND DOES NOTHING.. You can't get much more moral than that can you?
Yes. They aren't going to make laws about hindering their own greed, selfishness, and lust for (undeserved) power, that's for sure!
𝐷𝑒𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑠 𝑗𝑢𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑓𝑖𝑒𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑠𝑒 𝑏𝑎𝑡𝑠ℎ𝑖𝑡 𝑐𝑟𝑎𝑧𝑦 𝑏𝑖𝑙𝑙𝑠 𝑏𝑦 𝑠𝑎𝑦𝑖𝑛𝑔 ℎ𝑒 𝑗𝑢𝑠𝑡 𝑤𝑎𝑛𝑡𝑒𝑑 𝑡𝑜 𝑜𝑝𝑝𝑜𝑠𝑒 “𝑒𝑣𝑖𝑙”
So, he was lying.
Abortion bill: "I don't care if doctors get punished, lets execute the evil sluts." Bloodlust, pure and simple.
Covenant Marriage bill: "I don't care if atheists lie about the God thing, I just want to inflate the numbers so we can prove that Oklahoma is 100% Christian." Theocracy the real agenda.
No-fault divorce: "We need to force the Covenent Marriage thing by getting rid of any other option." Loveless marriage, abusive marriage, he doesn't care. Those women better stay in the kitchen and make him a sammich!
By any sane metric, he is not opposing "evil", he is promoting it.
I think it's a case of dyslexia, he actually wanted to write "live", not "evil".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_Evil_%28Black_Sabbath_album%29#/media/File:BlackSabbath-LiveEvil-Front.jpg
But it’s godly evil, not the other kind!
Yep, so much for him being pro-life. The rest proves he is a misogynist.
Yes, he is however, very much pro-death.
👆👆👆👆🎯
Every single one of his bills is straight out of Project 2025. What one of the Dems on the panel should have asked, in the hearing, is why none of his bills included penalties for masturbation or fellatio. Because they kill baby seeds.
Phase 2.
What do you mean?
Outlawing abortion is phase 1.
Outlawing masturbation or fellatio is phase 2.
Outlawing abortion: capital murder, evidence is just accusations. Outlawed masturbation: 4th degree misdemeanor, small fine, evidence at least two credible eyewitnesses and a DNA match.
Thanks for your comment--great belly laugh! Even my cats wandered over to see what I was hooting about!
CATS: "Are you all right, hoo-man? Does this affect our ritual feeding?"
As my mother used to say "You can make it illegal, but you can't make it unpopular."
I thought Phase 1 was collecting underpants.
Phase 2: ???
Phase three: Profit.
https://www.nighttrain.co/content/images/2021/01/image.png
Underpants Gnomes!
PANTY RAID!!!
If having an abortion, which would be completely impossible to differentiate between a miscarriage, would we hold the baby responsible for murder when the pregnant person dies from childbirth or complications of pregnancy? I mean, they killed the pregnant person. Can we hold the babies responsible for attempted murder for injuries and disabilities caused by carrying to term?
Or should we rather hold these fucking asshole politicians responsible for the pregnant people they are killing with these heartless policies. And this abortion ban, while I’m glad it didn’t pass, is nothing considering the fucking US congress is working on a federal ban on abortion. It won’t matter what n a few months anyway. No one will have access. And we all will face the skyrocketing maternal mortality rate.
No abortion is murder because all of them are self defense. Especially in our country where access to the necessary healthcare to mitigate the risks of pregnancy is so out of reach for pretty much 99% of the population.
Whatever, on to the revolution. Off with their heads.
It would be interesting to comb through cis women and trans men in childbearing age death certificate in uterus bearers killer states and count how many have an unclear cause of death.
Here is a start:
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/maternal-mortality/mmr-2018-2022-state-data.pdf
Without doing any analysis I'd bet a good chunk of money the maternal death rate is higher in abortion-restricted states. But correlation is not causation, and in this case the big confounding factor is poverty, which also tends to be higher in southern and red states and is probably the main cause.
Re correlation: many of the states with abortion restrictions also have got poor healthcare due to eg no Medicaid (?)expansion. Which means that there is very little antenatal care available.
Which in turn means that some difficult pregnancies are only detected when the woman turns up in A&E with complications.
Some of these states have got ‘maternity deserts’ where a pregnant person will have to travel to the next county or the next one over to get care.
And yet these states seem more interested in faffing around with ‘ten commandment requirements in schools’ rather than sorting out real problems for their citizens.
No-one has ever died for a lack of a religious prayer plaque in a public building, but they have died from being homeless or from being unable to get medical care!
Yes, all that for sure.
Where the increase in mortality does align with the start of the band, correlation can be assumed causation. Where other factors have no changes. Looking at Texas, their mortality rate does spike with the start of their ban and all other factors have not changed.
Hey, Deevers...
Your state is ranked 49th in both Health Care and Education. Got any bills to turn around those numbers? How's that? You'll have to speak up because I can't hear over the crickets.
𝘞𝘩𝘢𝘢𝘢𝘢𝘢𝘢𝘵? Solve 𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘭 problems? What do you think he is, a public servant or something?!
Public servant: someone who the public serves.
Roasted or boiled ?
Microwaved.
I am not sure if microwaved raw meat is edible.
It's edible but disgusting. My father microwaved a raw hamburger patty and it came out looking like a gray sponge.
To quote Robin Williams "Pop goes the weasel."
This guy is a MAGA and yet thinks he still has some moral high ground to stand on. The leader of his cult is a convicted felon, adjudicated rapist, liar and self-dealing grifter, but we're supposed to take advice on 'normalcy, decency and morality' from one his cult members? Yeah. And I'll take advice on caring for children from catholic priests. Irony called in sick with a migraine.
Get off your high horse before you get a nose bleed, Dusty, you misogynist creep.
They pander to the preachers and view human decency as a character flaw.
🎯🎯🎯
Irony is sooooooo dead, even more dead than a smoked kipper on a cracker!!!!!!
Dust Bunny Deevers should be vacuumed up and tossed in the trash with the other dirt, like Ryan Walters. Good on the OK lege for shutting this shit down.
Funny, we say "moutons/sheeps" instead of bunny.
Lol, I like that too.
I always read his name as Dusty Beaver.
When you are an xtian who failed in Oklahoma, you know you done fucked up royally.
Should have also mentioned that it seems even Christians don't like Christian fanatics.
"move toward a society that celebrates virtue in the public square rather than vice."
Like the Victorian era ?
NSFW
https://www.dailyartmagazine.com/victorian-erotica-pornography/
"Senators in opposition to the measure expressed concerns that it was unconstitutional, WOULD LEAD TO OTHER RELIGIOUS MONUMENTS and went against the will of the people."
They are not obvious at all.
I have a proposition for the not good senator who loves so much the death penalty. Let yourself be sued and condemned to death for the families of women who will die from a miscarriage going wrong.
They may be saying the (not so) quiet part out loud a bit there, but I do find it a little amusing that 𝘴𝘰𝘮𝘦 Republicans are finally developing enough foresight to realize that the TST is waiting in the wings with a Baphomet statue if they plant conspicuous Nat-C displays on public property.
The only problem there is you can only apply the death penalty once. Life in prison, his parole date pushed back a decade for each victim. That should get him at least a few centuries before his first parole hearing. Gen pop will not be kind to someone responsible for that many dead women.
The Victorians-in-power certainly did not like blasphemy and would go to great lengths to suppress it, especially to keep the common people ignorant of any criticism of Christian religion.
https://freethinker.co.uk/2022/06/the-freethinker-on-trial-for-blasphemy/
https://freethinker.co.uk/2022/10/britains-blasphemy-heritage/
Abolition of the crime of blasphemy was obtained in (I think) 2008 but it seems to be creeping back in under equality/anti-discrimination laws.
It would be nice to think that Deevers would learn from this setback, but who are we kidding? I have little doubt but that he'll try again, possibly with these same bills rebranded or with variations on those themes, but I can't imagine that he'll be much daunted by the actions of the committee.
Still, it tells me that there is at least some semblance of common sense in the Oklahoma legislature, and that is seriously encouraging. Let's hope they keep it up.
If he puts provisions for punishing the doctors as well, he might get them to pass the abortion bill. The question about charging doctors as accesory to murder seemed to indicate that the bloodlust he showed did not go far enough for some of his colleagues.
He wanted to kill doctors and women.
Wonderful idea. As long as health care stops and only the bad guys are in trouble. s/.
That sucking sound is from all the obstetricians leaving OK.
And Texas, Louisiana, Arkansas, Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia, Florida, Tennessee, South Carolina. The list could go on. Soon there may only be 5 states with practicing obstetricians.
Sadly, that is exactly what the Gawd-botherers want. The only OB/Gyns left will be right-wing asshole who instead giving standard of care will tell them "suffer bitch."
These are the sorts of laws that would only be proposed by a privilege-poisoned asshat who knows he'd never be subject to any of them.
The religious right will never run out of people they want to control, or how much they want to control them. This goes double for women. Mixing religion and government is the same terrible idea it has always been, and these despicable proposals are a further demonstration of that. No theocracy was ever a bastion of intellectual freedom and human rights, and yet this seems to be what they're after.
"CHRISTIAN, n. One who believes that the New Testament is a divinely inspired book admirably suited to the spiritual needs of his neighbor."
-Ambrose Bierce's Devil's Dictionary, 1911.
"CHRISTIAN, n. One who believes that the New Testament is a divinely inspired book admirably suited to the spiritual needs of his neighbor."
-Ambrose Bierce's Devil's Dictionary, 1911.
That is the most succinct and thoughtful description of Christian I have ever seen.
Thank you ericc!
There are tons of other good entries in the DD too. It's worth looking up.
I made a point of reading all of Bierce's work once upon a time.
“When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe nothing can stand in their way. Their movements become headlong — faster and faster and faster. They put aside all thoughts of obstacles and forget the precipice does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it’s too late.” - Frank Herbert
With a name like Dusty Deevers? Dusty go take an airplane ride somewhere,anywhere 70% chance it will crash. I most certainly hope so. Glad there are people in Oklahoma without stupid names who saw through your bullshit. Fuck you Dusty Deevers
I was just over at Jessica Valenti's substack (Abortion Every Day) and she was writing about Deevers as well (he wants to be able to charge women who seek abortions with first degree murder).
Well it takes two to tango so make the men accountable too ( everybody seems to forget there are men involved in a pregnancy--no! Yes!) Once you get the men involved it's like yah just kidding. So I know! Don't have it be first degree murder in the first place! Wow just solved everything right there.
I subscribe to her too, and nearly always restack her info. She's light-years ahead of the corporate owned press, who seem to know absolutely nothing about biology.
She has her fingers in so many pies, I don't know how she keeps up!
She is a goddess!
Hmm, my niece and her mother have tickets to Norway in June. I wonder if that is safe anymore.
America still has the safest commercial airlines in the world, I wouldn't be too worried, but if they are, find a Norwegian airline.
From where they travel from, Finnair was best choice.
Or Canadian.
Finnair was the best choice actually.
I personally would say wait right now. 8 crashes in 29 days. More now.
If this continues, we might cancel the trip. But for now, we've fixed tickets from Finnair.
Fly safely!
Thanks. I will tell that to those who shall travel, SIL and daughter. We are not visiting US again before there is a reasonable safe government installed.
That is wise.
OT- Time for your daily guffaw at the expense of Cybertruck owners: https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2025/02/stories-of-quality-engineering
In addition to all of the issues they already have with staying turned on, bursting into flames, and getting a little bit damp... steel body panels held on by defective glue are now falling off of Muskrat dumpsters traveling at highway speeds.
https://www.autoevolution.com/news/why-is-the-tesla-cybertruck-driving-in-europe-if-it-is-not-allowed-to-235309.html
“Hey guys! The Swasticar is impossibly heavy, how do we make it lighter?”
“I know! Let’s get rid of all the screws and bolts and replace it with glue!”
“GENIUS!!!”
"Lose the tires and let it run on the rims!"
It does explain DOGE’s iq level, doesn’t it?
That and the Ketamine kid's daily dosage. His heart is just going to burst one day.
If that would happen within the next couple of days, that would be great.
It does, indeed. More’s the pity.
I was just thinking about that same thing. Glue? Fucking GLUE?!?
Jesus h Christ onna Harley, I'd like to know who made that cement-headed call. That is someone who should not be allowed out of the house unsupervised, and definitely kept away from sharp objects.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/176bf123adbb0f74a50fc0c9c310d6be800a659f6fa83d5586f0916724942823.png
A Vehicle so bad, the sales contract has a clause saying you're stuck with it for a year or you're contractually fined.
That doesn't sound funny, it sounds dangerous to other drivers.
How bad are cybertrucks? Cybertrucks are so bad even the Decepticons wouldn’t use them for a disguise!!!
Even Starscream has better taste.
Hell, even the junkions won’t touch Musk’s cybertrucks. (Junkions were transformers from transformers Generation 1 cartoon t.v series, for those who may not know who the junkion are).
They’d shake apart (or even explode) trying to transform. Autobots would munch popcorn while it happened.
I’m glad Hemant takes the weekend off. That being said, it’s a bummer checking in and still seeing Dusty Deevers face.
To be fair, Dusty is not likely to be replaced by anyone nice is he?
Thanks a lot! Not! ;-)
OT : I missed this. Let's hope for a good news on March 31
https://www.politico.eu/article/marine-le-pen-llearn-verdict-date-trial-destroy-political-career/
I don't care for the jail time or the fine, but 5 years of inegibility ? Fuck yeah !