The philosophy of John Locke had far more influence over what went into the Constitution than the Ten Commandments. Interesting that he wants these religious dictates posted in the capitol as eight of the Commandments would be unconstitutional should anyone try writing them into law. This is what the religious right does rather than address any genuine problems, like the fact Oklahoma ranks 49th in education. Looking for supernatural solutions to complex social problems has never worked, and never will.
Yes, he wants this specific religion's laws posted in his capitol even when eight of them would be unconstitutional if anyone tried writing them into law. Because he expect that those stupid laws will be gone sooner or later.
Yes. So, I shall repeat my comment, which I wrote the other day about North Dakota: Is this really the most pressing issue for this state? Has homelessness been sorted and proper healthcare arranged for everyone? Has everyone got sufficient food and clean water to drink? All environmental problems have been solved?
No, the most pressing issue for North Dakota is the crisis on their southern border. There is not a signal foot of border fences and there are almost no CBP officers guarding the hundreds of miles of border. You can just walk from South Dakota straight in to North Dakota, without even showing a passport. And you know South Dakota isn't sending their best, but their rapist, murders, raping murders, murdering murders and Jehovah Witnesses.
How many Christian churches in Oklahoma have the Ten Commandments on their lawns? Maybe once they all do we could talk about putting them on the government lawns. If your church isn’t interested in posting them, why should the government be?
Doubtful. They somehow think that, if they can substitute the bible for the Constitution, that Jesus comes back and the Rapture happens, and all the good people get to heaven and all the bad people go to hell and that's it. End of story.
And they cannot and will not hear that this fever dream of theirs simply is not happening, nor is it likely to happen.
Good and bad have nothing to do with niceness or cruelty, to them. Good and bad are wholly dependent on obedience to god and his minions. The fact that god is a cruel bastard is beyond their reckoning because the Bible tells them he is the only good and they must believe the Bible since god tells them to in the Bible.
I, for one, look forward to see Oklahomans celebrate the Festival of Weeks, give up cheeseburgers, and sacrifice their first born children, as commanded in the REAL 10 c, in Exodus 34:10-27.
They must not read their bibles. It is clearly stated that the Charlton Heston set found in Exodus 20 was never called the Ten Commandments (unlike the set in Exodus 34). Not only that, the Exodus 20 set was smashed at the base of Mt. Sinai and never put into use.
Dullard must have been asleep during Sunday school/bible study.
The first time I watched that I had nightmares about the guy with the glasses melting. It shook me. But I didn’t care so much about the others, there’s something about the glasses that troubled me.
I remember being shocked and disgusted but I don't remember nightmares (Night of the Living Dead and Chiller OTOH). But the glasses stuck out to me as well, probably because I've worn them since I was eight and tend to find them sexy on a man.
Ugh! This is exhausting. But I guess that is the point.
You put the Ten Commandments up on government property, people read them (not that they are ignorant of what they say) realize that so few of them actually pertain to their lives, and even those that do are better expressed elsewhere, recognize that the very people who are insisting the rocks take up space and blight the land are incapable of even the shallowest of compliance to the rules put forth, and finally get a fucking clue that the Republicans are corrupt power hungry vultures that are making their lives more and more difficult, and vote them out of office.
If the the "real" 10 Commandments ever get displayed inside/outside their Capitol, make sure they are written in the original Aramaic. Let people scratch their heads in trying to translate them.
Erect a monument to the Constitution with the whole thing amendments and all. Erect a law that states if it's vandalized or removed it's a felony akin to treason.
Would make for an interesting exercise. Problem is that the Constitution is a considerable document, whereas the 10Cs aren't. Considering that the average Christian can't even name all 10 commandments tells me that getting them to even read the Constitution would be way too big an ask.
I positively LOVE Schoolhouse Rock (and I have it on DVD!). Sadly, the US has proven to be less a melting pot than a patchwork quilt ... and SOME of the patches seem to think they're better than some of the others and want to disassociate themselves from the overall structure.
Re: January 20th in Washington, DC, Google Weather says, "Sunny - High: 24°F, Low: 9°F." I'm a Clevelander, so to me, that ain't all that bad. Donnie probably thinks his dick will get frostbite, though. 😝
Bull(shit)ard is a waste of oxygen. Doing something productive for his constituents isn’t in the cards when he can use his position for no one’s benefit but his own, which is right on brand for the new administration. Welcome to the monkey house.
Wasting time and taxpayer $$$ on a religious masturbation fantasy. Again. Is it any wonder why the Sooner State is currently ranked 43rd Overall?
Even more telling? They're ranked next-to-last in not only Education (surprise surprise) but in Health Care as well. Nice set of priorities you've got there, Senator.
What's that definition of "Insanity?" Oh, yeah: Doing the same thing, over and Over and OVER again, expecting different results.
That sure appears to be what David Bullard is doing in Oklahoma, and made more absurd by the fact that he's refiling a bill for which a ruling has already been given. I suspect that he thinks a change in administration in Washington, D.C. would have an impact on his efforts, but the fact is that he's dealing with a STATE matter, and the Oklahoma Supreme Court has already passed down their decision on this matter.
One wonders how long Bullard will bang his head against a stone wall before he realizes that his head is taking more punishment than the wall is.
In a sense, it's a win-win for him though. He either gets to force the Commandments into the public square owned by everyone, or he gets to play the poor, persecuted victim of the godless left because that's where the real money is. Just ask David Barton.
Yep. These bills win when they don't win, because they provide reelection talking points. "I tried to be a good Christian representatives, but those liberals in black robes prevented me. Reelect me to keep up the good fight!"
In fact they might win more by not winning, because a 10C bill which fails can be resubmitted year after year after year for the same PR benefit. While if a courthouse monument actually gets built, they can't resubmit the same bill next year for the PR benefit.
The philosophy of John Locke had far more influence over what went into the Constitution than the Ten Commandments. Interesting that he wants these religious dictates posted in the capitol as eight of the Commandments would be unconstitutional should anyone try writing them into law. This is what the religious right does rather than address any genuine problems, like the fact Oklahoma ranks 49th in education. Looking for supernatural solutions to complex social problems has never worked, and never will.
Yes, he wants this specific religion's laws posted in his capitol even when eight of them would be unconstitutional if anyone tried writing them into law. Because he expect that those stupid laws will be gone sooner or later.
"It's deja vu all over again"
I did NOT SEE that coming.
I am shocked, shocked that there is gambling here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxnpY0owPkA
A glitch in the Matrix. That's what you get for running code written by an AI.
Yes. So, I shall repeat my comment, which I wrote the other day about North Dakota: Is this really the most pressing issue for this state? Has homelessness been sorted and proper healthcare arranged for everyone? Has everyone got sufficient food and clean water to drink? All environmental problems have been solved?
And, yeah, I know the answer!
No, the most pressing issue for North Dakota is the crisis on their southern border. There is not a signal foot of border fences and there are almost no CBP officers guarding the hundreds of miles of border. You can just walk from South Dakota straight in to North Dakota, without even showing a passport. And you know South Dakota isn't sending their best, but their rapist, murders, raping murders, murdering murders and Jehovah Witnesses.
No guards, but there are bison. You don't fuck with those. Unless you're from Wyoming, then it's the state pastime.
https://ra.co/dj/daveaju
How many Christian churches in Oklahoma have the Ten Commandments on their lawns? Maybe once they all do we could talk about putting them on the government lawns. If your church isn’t interested in posting them, why should the government be?
If they genuinely succeed at putting the 10Cs on government property, I want to insist on putting the Preamble to the Constitution on church property.
Sauce for the goose is not a horse of a different color!
Can I get sauce for my horse via a different color goose?
Sure. Just find that goose (via wild chase, if necessary) and go for it!
You could chase it in a Chevy: here's the soundtrack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgVsCTIWc5U
Will they EVER get tired of pissing on the Constitution?
Doubtful. They somehow think that, if they can substitute the bible for the Constitution, that Jesus comes back and the Rapture happens, and all the good people get to heaven and all the bad people go to hell and that's it. End of story.
And they cannot and will not hear that this fever dream of theirs simply is not happening, nor is it likely to happen.
Of course, they also think that they cannot possibly be the bad people, regardless of how cruel they have been.
Good and bad have nothing to do with niceness or cruelty, to them. Good and bad are wholly dependent on obedience to god and his minions. The fact that god is a cruel bastard is beyond their reckoning because the Bible tells them he is the only good and they must believe the Bible since god tells them to in the Bible.
Why are so many delusional idiots in positions to make decisions?
It's one (several actually) of the commandments.
No, because they DON’T like the constitution. They want to change it. They want to change it to a system where not everyone is equal.
Because they think that they’d be part of the ‘in’-crowd, i.e. where they’d be part of the group favoured by their new system.
Remember Animal Farm: “All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others”.
I, for one, look forward to see Oklahomans celebrate the Festival of Weeks, give up cheeseburgers, and sacrifice their first born children, as commanded in the REAL 10 c, in Exodus 34:10-27.
They must not read their bibles. It is clearly stated that the Charlton Heston set found in Exodus 20 was never called the Ten Commandments (unlike the set in Exodus 34). Not only that, the Exodus 20 set was smashed at the base of Mt. Sinai and never put into use.
Dullard must have been asleep during Sunday school/bible study.
You forgot that they only read the bits that give them license to hate.
I prefer Mel Brooks' set of 15 to Heston's set. :)
Wonder what was on that third tablet before the oopsie. :D
Thou shalt not rape children.
Evidence-based Education is every child's right.
Thou shalt mind thine own business. If someone sins, I will handle it.
Women are people.
I will repeat for the hard of hearing: THOU SHALT NOT RAPE CHILDREN.
You shall not own or treat other humans as property.
Honor your children.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwSh0dAaqIA
https://media4.giphy.com/media/n0WQESZuKpbJu54Ypq/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b952tlroycqgx7socnbboah4z8vv52wtfvfvkqsd6rv9&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g
The first time I watched that I had nightmares about the guy with the glasses melting. It shook me. But I didn’t care so much about the others, there’s something about the glasses that troubled me.
I remember being shocked and disgusted but I don't remember nightmares (Night of the Living Dead and Chiller OTOH). But the glasses stuck out to me as well, probably because I've worn them since I was eight and tend to find them sexy on a man.
Well, I was only 6 or 7 when I saw it the first time.
It's buried on Oak Island.
It sure doesn’t help that Moses and the exodus from Egypt are both fictional.
Don't tell the Israelis that or they might label you a Palestinian.
I K. R? They would have had to walk in circles, the territory is not that big.
I still have never seethed a kid in its mother's milk.
Ugh! This is exhausting. But I guess that is the point.
You put the Ten Commandments up on government property, people read them (not that they are ignorant of what they say) realize that so few of them actually pertain to their lives, and even those that do are better expressed elsewhere, recognize that the very people who are insisting the rocks take up space and blight the land are incapable of even the shallowest of compliance to the rules put forth, and finally get a fucking clue that the Republicans are corrupt power hungry vultures that are making their lives more and more difficult, and vote them out of office.
A girl can dream.
Oklahoma was voting Republican when I lived there for 17 years and I left 18 years ago.
If the the "real" 10 Commandments ever get displayed inside/outside their Capitol, make sure they are written in the original Aramaic. Let people scratch their heads in trying to translate them.
Erect a monument to the Constitution with the whole thing amendments and all. Erect a law that states if it's vandalized or removed it's a felony akin to treason.
Would make for an interesting exercise. Problem is that the Constitution is a considerable document, whereas the 10Cs aren't. Considering that the average Christian can't even name all 10 commandments tells me that getting them to even read the Constitution would be way too big an ask.
I wish it were otherwise, but so far, it ain't.
Maybe the Preamble?
Now THERE's a concept! 👍
Didn't Schoolhouse Rock cover that? Of course, IIRC, they also told kids in the 70s that the US was a "melting pot"
I positively LOVE Schoolhouse Rock (and I have it on DVD!). Sadly, the US has proven to be less a melting pot than a patchwork quilt ... and SOME of the patches seem to think they're better than some of the others and want to disassociate themselves from the overall structure.
And yeah, that bothers and concerns me a LOT.
Then you may appreciate this:
https://www.zentaur.org/memes/schoolhouse_rock_bill_sequel.jpg
I heard it’s less melting pot and more tossed salad. So it makes sense that certain elements are aggressive toward other elements.
They can’t even agree how to number them.
They love their erections. Women's fun not so much.
The people of Oklahoma must be doing great since this bullshit is what their lawmakers spend their time on. Oh, what's that? They're not? Huh.
Omniscient, omnipotent God needs laws passed at the state level to display his top ten list on government property. Makes sense.
Omni doesn't go as far as it used to thanks to Bidenflation.
But...but...Joe Biden is a Good Catholic (TM)?
"What does God need with a plaque?"
That's why he has a water pic.
Or... a starship.
Or an army.
It's one of those cases where the reality doesn't live up to the hype. 😝
OT, Trump moving inauguration indoors. He says because of the predicted cold temps but I’m guessing he wants to avoid the small crowd optics again.
His makeup is only rated down to 32F.
He won't be able to see any flags, so let's put them back to half mast.
Nit to pick. Half mast refers to flags on ships. Half staff to flags on land.
We'll just go with half-wit.
Bet he's really worried about somebody taking a shot at him. Somebody who may not be a rank amateur this time.
Indoor event would be easier to blow up, get all the republicans in line to the seat at once.
Re: January 20th in Washington, DC, Google Weather says, "Sunny - High: 24°F, Low: 9°F." I'm a Clevelander, so to me, that ain't all that bad. Donnie probably thinks his dick will get frostbite, though. 😝
It would need to be exposed and it is completely enclosed by that belly.
How can something so small that requires an electron microscope to see get frostbite?
When a mushroom is exposed to temperatures that low, it shrivels beyond recognition.
Agreed. Which is why I'm going for small crowd size
Bull(shit)ard is a waste of oxygen. Doing something productive for his constituents isn’t in the cards when he can use his position for no one’s benefit but his own, which is right on brand for the new administration. Welcome to the monkey house.
Wasting time and taxpayer $$$ on a religious masturbation fantasy. Again. Is it any wonder why the Sooner State is currently ranked 43rd Overall?
Even more telling? They're ranked next-to-last in not only Education (surprise surprise) but in Health Care as well. Nice set of priorities you've got there, Senator.
What's that definition of "Insanity?" Oh, yeah: Doing the same thing, over and Over and OVER again, expecting different results.
That sure appears to be what David Bullard is doing in Oklahoma, and made more absurd by the fact that he's refiling a bill for which a ruling has already been given. I suspect that he thinks a change in administration in Washington, D.C. would have an impact on his efforts, but the fact is that he's dealing with a STATE matter, and the Oklahoma Supreme Court has already passed down their decision on this matter.
One wonders how long Bullard will bang his head against a stone wall before he realizes that his head is taking more punishment than the wall is.
In a sense, it's a win-win for him though. He either gets to force the Commandments into the public square owned by everyone, or he gets to play the poor, persecuted victim of the godless left because that's where the real money is. Just ask David Barton.
Yep. These bills win when they don't win, because they provide reelection talking points. "I tried to be a good Christian representatives, but those liberals in black robes prevented me. Reelect me to keep up the good fight!"
In fact they might win more by not winning, because a 10C bill which fails can be resubmitted year after year after year for the same PR benefit. While if a courthouse monument actually gets built, they can't resubmit the same bill next year for the PR benefit.
Thank goodness they fixed all the states problems that they have time for pointless unconstitutional guff.