Walters is a guy who hitched his wagon to Trump. Look at what it got him. Did the Orange One come to Walters' rescue? He can't even remember who Walters is (and soon, Trump won't even remember who HE is).
"I was never very religious, to be honest. Never a big believer in God or as Muslims call him Alan, or Jewish people say, Yahtzee. He never endorsed me and I said, 'if he won’t endorse me then frankly we have nothing to talk about.' Basically God is a RINO."
Well ye gods and little fishes! All appearances sure seem to indicate that Oklahoma may have at last gotten serious about the education of their children. The yap about religion and the 10Cs on the Department of Education website is GONE, along with virtually any reference to a certain former Secretary of Education, and the current holder of that position is less interested in garnering attention to himself than he is boosting the quality of primary and secondary education in the Sooner State.
Hmmm. Is. That. A. Fact? I suspect that there will be more than one teachers' organization that will fall on Walters like a ton of bricks, considering what he did to Oklahoma schools. If he thinks he can tackle unions without some serious blowback, he's got another think coming!
This is what happens when you replace a power hungry Christian Nazionalist with an actual educator. Too bad it won't last long. Since Fields is not interested in being elected to his own term, the already indoctrinated voters of Oklahoma are likely to pick another religious demagogue. Let's hope that the Walters 2.0 who replaces Fields will be less likely to violate the Establishment Clause than the child killer. A low bar, I know, but I can hope.
I will be happy when they toss Walter’ ass in prison for his crimes playing with the schools’ money. Let’s never forget how he celebrated the death (murder) of a child because they didn’t conform to his strict gender norms. Noting that the environment he created led to Nex Benedict’s attack and subsequent death. He has blood on his hands.
Also, I hope they shitcanned the Libs of Tik Tok succubus.
Religious conservatives always over play their hands. I think this is due to the fact they tend to live in self-reinforcing bubbles where they become convinced they're right and everyone else is a threat to civilization as we know it. In the end, Walters will have set back the agenda he tried to advance because people came to see it for the fraud it is.
I think it's more like Capone; they are going after the financials because that's the only thing they could possibly show criminal wrongdoing on. Everything else was arguably-legal-just-terrible-policy decisions.
As SaintOscar Wilde observed, "Some cause happiness wherever they go; others whenever they Go.”
And as Saint BensNewlogin observes, it is very likely that Oklahoma will continue to vote for Republicans as they have for the last 50 years, and continue to be at the bottom of just about every measure of social well-being available, because the mentality that elected Ryan Walters — culture wars and religion uber alles— will continue to govern the state.
I will reserve judgement about the changes towards proper educating the children in Oklahoma, because the next superintendent may be just as bad. And the positive changes may be temporary, if another Christian nationalist get the top job of the educational system.
I would also like to see Ryan Walters charged with accessory to murder for his hate rhetoric against trans which made it possible for the murder of Nex Benedict. I guess I just have to hope that will happened (I know it won’t).
I wasn’t saying Walters wasn’t true Christian (he says he is so he is), I just wary about how the average magas will forget about the disaster that Walters was, and demand that another Christian nationalist take his place!
I know and I agree with you. I’m just playing. Amen to recognizing real world harm and violence that hate rhetoric and polices have on people’s lives. More of this!
The magas responsible for electing him probably think he did a great job but didn't go far enough with the dominionism.
It's the moderate conservatives that don't vote in high numbers for off-year state positions that need to get on the stick to ensure it doesn't happen again.
The moderate conservatives that like his policies, but find his personality off putting type? Or the “fiscal” conservatives that are certainly not racist, sexist, homophobic, and transphobic? Remember it isn’t them, it’s those other people over there. It’s someone else, sigh.
I don't know how many times Americans need to learn that lesson. But anyone who is a fundamentalist is always going to prioritize their particular flavor of religion above serving the people.
The primary system combined with gerrymandering makes it hard not to. To create a district with >55% "guaranteed" votes for one party, that means including the most loyalist voters. Which in turn means that during a primary in which only that one party is voting (OK GOP holds closed primaries), those loyalists dictate who will win and go through to the general. Then you have the grassroots participation issue - I.e. the more fundie groups are really good at getting their members to show up for state and local votes.
State superintendent vote doesn't have the gerrymandering problem, but its still going to be the case that if the GOP primary is decided mostly by GOP voters, and the fundie groups are really good at turnout, then that gives the right wing of the party much higher representation than the rest of us would like.
So let's drill down on "don't elect" a couple more steps:
-> Moderate GOPers, do not wait for November to complain about the candidate offerings. Show up for your party's primary, whenever that is. Select the non-fundie.
-> Then show up for the general. Be willing to vote across party lines if you lost the primary.
-> Democrats, do something similar. Don't wait until November to get involved; vote in your primary, and in that contest vote with an eye towards someone who can win over Oklahoma's population. The candidate that reaches the general should be someone moderate enough to be able to gather cross-party GOP voters, in case the GOP candidate is a dominionist.
Ryan Walters is but a microcosm of what’s going on in that White House right now. The grift. Hopefully Oklahoma learns some valuable lessons from this in regard to their future, but I won’t hold my breath.
Well the next Super (after the current interim one) will be chosen by popular election, and it's a very red state, and the primaries always push candidates to be more extreme. So there's a real possibility that the only candidate who makes it through the GOP primary into the general will be a right-winger who caters to evangelical home-schoolers.
The Dems need to put up a candidate very much like this interim guy. Focus on competence at the superintendent job, past educational leadership experience, and for gods' sake stay away from blue social goals. I understand you want them, but there's there's no way in hell that sort of candidate wins in Oklahoma. Put up someone who will grab the votes of Oklahoma's citizens who are Republicans, are generally conservative, but don't want to see another Walters.
Walters is a guy who hitched his wagon to Trump. Look at what it got him. Did the Orange One come to Walters' rescue? He can't even remember who Walters is (and soon, Trump won't even remember who HE is).
What's your impression after taking Oraxx's place as first commentator ? 😁
Just keeping Oraxx's seat warm. ;)
From Dictator for a Day (DictatorForADayShow.com), opening monologue, Trump vs. God:
"I was never very religious, to be honest. Never a big believer in God or as Muslims call him Alan, or Jewish people say, Yahtzee. He never endorsed me and I said, 'if he won’t endorse me then frankly we have nothing to talk about.' Basically God is a RINO."
Well ye gods and little fishes! All appearances sure seem to indicate that Oklahoma may have at last gotten serious about the education of their children. The yap about religion and the 10Cs on the Department of Education website is GONE, along with virtually any reference to a certain former Secretary of Education, and the current holder of that position is less interested in garnering attention to himself than he is boosting the quality of primary and secondary education in the Sooner State.
Damned. Good. News!
JoeMyGod reports ol' Ryan had a ghost employee... not a woman.
https://www.joemygod.com/2025/10/ex-oklahoma-schools-chief-had-ghost-employee/
Hmmm. Is. That. A. Fact? I suspect that there will be more than one teachers' organization that will fall on Walters like a ton of bricks, considering what he did to Oklahoma schools. If he thinks he can tackle unions without some serious blowback, he's got another think coming!
I don't know, I can see the legal protections for unions going bye-bye in just a couple of years.
“𝑇ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑤𝑎𝑠 𝑎 𝑞𝑢𝑒𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝐼 𝑎𝑠𝑘𝑒𝑑 𝑖𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑖𝑛𝑡𝑒𝑟𝑣𝑖𝑒𝑤 𝑝𝑟𝑜𝑐𝑒𝑠𝑠 𝑏𝑒𝑐𝑎𝑢𝑠𝑒 𝐼 𝑤𝑎𝑛𝑡𝑒𝑑 𝑠𝑜𝑚𝑒𝑏𝑜𝑑𝑦 𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑓𝑜𝑐𝑢𝑠𝑒𝑑 𝑜𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑛𝑒𝑥𝑡 𝑒𝑙𝑒𝑐𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛,” 𝑆𝑡𝑖𝑡𝑡 𝑠𝑎𝑖𝑑. “𝐿𝑒𝑡’𝑠 𝑓𝑜𝑐𝑢𝑠 𝑜𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑘𝑖𝑑𝑠.”
𝑇ℎ𝑒 𝑖𝑚𝑝𝑙𝑖𝑐𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑒, 𝑜𝑓 𝑐𝑜𝑢𝑟𝑠𝑒, 𝑖𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑅𝑦𝑎𝑛 𝑊𝑎𝑙𝑡𝑒𝑟𝑠 𝑤𝑎𝑠 𝑛𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑖𝑛𝑡𝑒𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑡𝑒𝑑 𝑖𝑛 𝑓𝑜𝑐𝑢𝑠𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑜𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑘𝑖𝑑𝑠.
We already knew that. All ideology and indoctrination, no desire for students to actually 𝗹𝗲𝗮𝗿𝗻 things.
“𝑇𝑒𝑎𝑐ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑠 𝑎𝑟𝑒 𝑤𝑎𝑙𝑘𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑎𝑟𝑜𝑢𝑛𝑑 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑠𝑚𝑖𝑙𝑒𝑠 𝑜𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑖𝑟 𝑓𝑎𝑐𝑒𝑠 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑙𝑜𝑡𝑠 𝑜𝑓 ℎ𝑖𝑔ℎ 𝑓𝑖𝑣𝑒𝑠. 𝑇ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑒 𝑖𝑠 𝑛𝑜 𝑠𝑎𝑑𝑛𝑒𝑠𝑠. 𝐼 ℎ𝑒𝑎𝑟 𝑓𝑟𝑜𝑚 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑡𝑒𝑎𝑐ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑠 𝑎𝑐𝑟𝑜𝑠𝑠 𝑂𝑘𝑙𝑎ℎ𝑜𝑚𝑎 𝑤ℎ𝑜 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑐ℎ𝑒𝑑 𝑜𝑢𝑡 𝑡𝑜 𝑚𝑒, 𝑖𝑡’𝑠 𝑗𝑢𝑠𝑡 𝑛𝑜𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑏𝑢𝑡 𝑝𝑢𝑟𝑒 𝑗𝑜𝑦 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑝𝑢𝑟𝑒 ℎ𝑜𝑝𝑒."
This is what happens when you replace a power hungry Christian Nazionalist with an actual educator. Too bad it won't last long. Since Fields is not interested in being elected to his own term, the already indoctrinated voters of Oklahoma are likely to pick another religious demagogue. Let's hope that the Walters 2.0 who replaces Fields will be less likely to violate the Establishment Clause than the child killer. A low bar, I know, but I can hope.
He will be xorking closely with others educators. Let just hope one choose to be a candidate for the sake of the children.
"Office of Religious Liberty and Patriotism" i.e. Office of Christian Persecution Complex and Blind Allegiance to Political Policy.
I will be happy when they toss Walter’ ass in prison for his crimes playing with the schools’ money. Let’s never forget how he celebrated the death (murder) of a child because they didn’t conform to his strict gender norms. Noting that the environment he created led to Nex Benedict’s attack and subsequent death. He has blood on his hands.
Also, I hope they shitcanned the Libs of Tik Tok succubus.
"I have been silenced!"
Religious conservatives always over play their hands. I think this is due to the fact they tend to live in self-reinforcing bubbles where they become convinced they're right and everyone else is a threat to civilization as we know it. In the end, Walters will have set back the agenda he tried to advance because people came to see it for the fraud it is.
jesus hates us,
this we know.
Cuz its minions
scream 'tis so.
To be fair, Oklahoma isn't doing it on purpose. It's just illegal to teach history.
As the article shows, mixing religion with education is just as disastrous as mixing religion with money.
You know things are really bad when you are a magots white man and you pissed off magots and conservatives white men.
"Drummond contended Walters had a “well-established history of mishandling tax dollars.”
1) That confirm that he will run his new venture into the ground
2) Drummond can use this example and apply it to abusers and rapists instead of empty PR.
Only pissed off because of the financials. The rest of the stuff is fine.
Just like holy mother church. Abuse people? Shuffle the perps around, deny, cover up. Take their money? Hang the perps.
I think it's more like Capone; they are going after the financials because that's the only thing they could possibly show criminal wrongdoing on. Everything else was arguably-legal-just-terrible-policy decisions.
As SaintOscar Wilde observed, "Some cause happiness wherever they go; others whenever they Go.”
And as Saint BensNewlogin observes, it is very likely that Oklahoma will continue to vote for Republicans as they have for the last 50 years, and continue to be at the bottom of just about every measure of social well-being available, because the mentality that elected Ryan Walters — culture wars and religion uber alles— will continue to govern the state.
Almost as bad as Louisiana.
Almost. They must really try harder.
I will reserve judgement about the changes towards proper educating the children in Oklahoma, because the next superintendent may be just as bad. And the positive changes may be temporary, if another Christian nationalist get the top job of the educational system.
I would also like to see Ryan Walters charged with accessory to murder for his hate rhetoric against trans which made it possible for the murder of Nex Benedict. I guess I just have to hope that will happened (I know it won’t).
I can hear all the BUT “he wasn’t a true Christians” all the way from here.
NOBODY can be a true xtian. NOBODY can be that self-contradictory a hypocrite..
I wasn’t saying Walters wasn’t true Christian (he says he is so he is), I just wary about how the average magas will forget about the disaster that Walters was, and demand that another Christian nationalist take his place!
I know and I agree with you. I’m just playing. Amen to recognizing real world harm and violence that hate rhetoric and polices have on people’s lives. More of this!
The magas responsible for electing him probably think he did a great job but didn't go far enough with the dominionism.
It's the moderate conservatives that don't vote in high numbers for off-year state positions that need to get on the stick to ensure it doesn't happen again.
The moderate conservatives that like his policies, but find his personality off putting type? Or the “fiscal” conservatives that are certainly not racist, sexist, homophobic, and transphobic? Remember it isn’t them, it’s those other people over there. It’s someone else, sigh.
I was blowing off Dear Leader steam. My apologies 😂
Don't elect fundamentalists.
I don't know how many times Americans need to learn that lesson. But anyone who is a fundamentalist is always going to prioritize their particular flavor of religion above serving the people.
The primary system combined with gerrymandering makes it hard not to. To create a district with >55% "guaranteed" votes for one party, that means including the most loyalist voters. Which in turn means that during a primary in which only that one party is voting (OK GOP holds closed primaries), those loyalists dictate who will win and go through to the general. Then you have the grassroots participation issue - I.e. the more fundie groups are really good at getting their members to show up for state and local votes.
State superintendent vote doesn't have the gerrymandering problem, but its still going to be the case that if the GOP primary is decided mostly by GOP voters, and the fundie groups are really good at turnout, then that gives the right wing of the party much higher representation than the rest of us would like.
So let's drill down on "don't elect" a couple more steps:
-> Moderate GOPers, do not wait for November to complain about the candidate offerings. Show up for your party's primary, whenever that is. Select the non-fundie.
-> Then show up for the general. Be willing to vote across party lines if you lost the primary.
-> Democrats, do something similar. Don't wait until November to get involved; vote in your primary, and in that contest vote with an eye towards someone who can win over Oklahoma's population. The candidate that reaches the general should be someone moderate enough to be able to gather cross-party GOP voters, in case the GOP candidate is a dominionist.
going on my last crabbing trip of the year, can't wait
Going out crabbing this weekend. That’s if I can get to the coast through the war torn streets of Portland.
Hope the boat stays securely afloat. Would hate see an epitah that reads:
HE GAVE HIS LIFE FOR THE CRABS
King Tut gave his life for tourism.
He was born in Arizona. Got a condo made of stone-a
Ryan Walters is but a microcosm of what’s going on in that White House right now. The grift. Hopefully Oklahoma learns some valuable lessons from this in regard to their future, but I won’t hold my breath.
Too Christianist for deeeeep red Oklahoma. That takes some effort.
𝐼𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑒’𝑠 𝑎𝑛𝑦 𝑙𝑒𝑠𝑠𝑜𝑛 𝑡𝑜 𝑡𝑎𝑘𝑒 𝑓𝑟𝑜𝑚 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑠, 𝑖𝑡’𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑂𝑘𝑙𝑎ℎ𝑜𝑚𝑎 𝑐𝑎𝑛’𝑡 𝑎𝑓𝑓𝑜𝑟𝑑 𝑡𝑜 𝑠𝑡𝑢𝑚𝑏𝑙𝑒 𝑏𝑎𝑐𝑘𝑤𝑎𝑟𝑑𝑠 𝑎𝑔𝑎𝑖𝑛.
Well the next Super (after the current interim one) will be chosen by popular election, and it's a very red state, and the primaries always push candidates to be more extreme. So there's a real possibility that the only candidate who makes it through the GOP primary into the general will be a right-winger who caters to evangelical home-schoolers.
The Dems need to put up a candidate very much like this interim guy. Focus on competence at the superintendent job, past educational leadership experience, and for gods' sake stay away from blue social goals. I understand you want them, but there's there's no way in hell that sort of candidate wins in Oklahoma. Put up someone who will grab the votes of Oklahoma's citizens who are Republicans, are generally conservative, but don't want to see another Walters.