What an arrogant prick the mayor is, to say that “he doesn’t read anything that Mrs. Dworkin writes” because, “he doesn’t see any point in it.” Someone could easily say the same thing about him. The only lack of respect I witnessed above was from the mayor.
It should be pretty obvious why Mayor Rees doesn't want a Day of Reason: he himself is NOT REASONABLE, nor apparently can he be reasoned with. It seems as though he thinks that reason is against his god, much as Martin Luther did. What he utterly ignores is that there are those of faith who value and employ reason in their lives and do not see the conflict that Rees feels.
Yet one more issue which will want some followup, never mind MORE PRESSURE on Rees, because it is clear to me that he doesn't want to hear or see reason.
I see absolute contempt for a constituent. It is one thing to ignore and not act on constituent complants but to refuse to even listen to them. Just wow.
This only shows the depth of your contempt, and where it comes from. "No respect for God." You think that anyone who does not believe in your god is undeserving of citizenship. "No respect for our country." You think that anyone not believing in your god does not respect our country. "No respect for our Pledge of Allegiance." Really? You do know that the phrase "under God" was not inserted until the red scare, right? Funny how its placement divides "one nation" from "indivisible". "No respect for the city commission." Why should anyone respect a city commission that is so under your thumb that they will not go against your unconstitutional ideas? US Constitution,. Article 6: "No religious test". Even before the First Amendment's guarantee of the separation of church and state by the Establishment Clause and the Free Exercise Clause working together, the government was meant to be 𝗲𝘅𝗽𝗹𝗶𝗰𝗶𝘁𝗹𝘆 non-religious. Belief in God is not required.
I am a veteran. Four decades ago, I swore an oath to uphold the Constitution. I took that oath seriously then, and I never forswore that oath. I am also an atheist. I do not believe in your god, or any gods for that matter. I love my country, and I want to see it do better, and truly live up to the promise of liberty and justice for all.
You never really gave an actual answer as to why you rejected the Day of Reason proclamation. I suspect that, if pressed, your answer would include the idea that it must be anti Christian because it doesn't mention God as being connected to reason. As though everything that does not actively promote or acknowledge the Christian God is automatically anti Christian. And to you, anything anti Christian is automatically anti American, regardless of the governmental religious neutrality guaranteed at all levels by Article VI, Amendment I, and Amendment XIV in the Constitution of the United States. That is why you reject a Day of Reason. You believe that using one's mind is un-American.
Damned well written, Joe. I'd say send it to Rees, but we both know he's transmitting and not much receiving, certainly not anything critical of him or his precious god.
"Have a blessed day" is Christer code. It makes me want to puke when a retail worker says that to me.. I usually respond with "and you have a good day too."
Around here, no-one absolutely no-one says anything like that. And we have an established church and church people sit in our legislature. But we do not have 'blessed days'.
(PS no, the thing about the bishops in the legislature is not a good idea, I am looking forward to them being removed. We've just kicked out the last of the hereditaries, I'll see movement)
Damn. I would have thought, since you have a name associated with penis ownership, that he would have deigned to give you more of a response than he'd give a, gasp!, woman speaking in public. These people are terrified of us. I think that deep down, they know it's all BS. That said, if Rees is anything like my conservative Christian mother, he most likely read it, hated it, and lied about not reading it. LOL
I am not expecting one. Rees seems to prefer being the big fish in the small pond. It is very unlikely for him to acknowledge the scrutiny of the ocean.
Well stated, Joe. Elected officials like Mayor Rees have all sworn an oath to uphold the laws of the land. The fact that they now trample on those laws tells you everything you need to know about the quality of their character.
Their character includes, worship of the new christian nationalist messiah, Trump, a many times convicted felon, friend, pardoner/protector of violent felons, sexual predator, insurrectionist, many times failed and bankrupt business person (I refuse to consider such a thing a man), racist, warmonger... Trump is what the world will think of the U.S. for generations.
Thanks, but I would be careful of sarcasm when addressing Trump and those like him, such as, Rees. It takes intelligence to understand and appreciate sarcasm, and Trump and his Trumpites don't make the grade. Viscous, cunning, spiteful, fanatical..., but never , ever intelligent.
Excellent! Mr. King, thank you for one of the finest comments I've read in a long time! Mayor Rees is simply against the US Constitution. I wonder if he too, suffers from bone spurs when he's not golfing?
Given all the pain, suffering and injustice his God allows to happen, I don't see where that God is really entitled to a lot of respect. A God who sat out the Holocaust, and allows members of the Christian clergy to sexually abuse children is a God I wouldn't worship even if it could be demonstrated that God actually existed.
Christopher Hitchens used to make the powerful argument that heaven watched with folded arms as 99.9% of all creatures ever to live went extinct, often in hideous ways. And that's to say nothing of the numerous travesties, persecutions and violence carried out in 'His' name.
Christopher Hitchens is missed more than ever with the MAGA cult in control. Would have been interesting his opinion on what's going on with religion in the United States today.
I like this video from Rationality Rules, as a good summary of some of the horror those who worship Abraham's "god" (christians, muslims, jews and other cults) have inflicted on the world, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnOCpacEOFA
I am not sure how much respect I should give a God, who, knowing in advance that his plan would fail, decided that, and let me remind you that this is an all-knowing and all-powerful God, so that he could have done anything, decided, of his own free will, especially important considering if free will exists, this God would be the only thing in all of creation with free will, that Nickelback should exist.
I like and admire what George Carlin, and Christopher Hitchens, but I am petty sure that, if Carlin were still alive, he would have changed his mind about this, "...in any decently-run universe, this guy would've been out on his all-powerful ass a long time ago. And by the way, I say "this guy", because I firmly believe, looking at these results, that if there is a God, it has to be a man. No woman could or would ever fuck things up like this."
How would the U.S. and the world be better off if the likes of Marjorie Taylor Greene, Lauren Opal Boebert, Karoline Claire Leavitt, Pam Bondi, Brooke Rollins, Lori Chavez-DeRemer, Susie Wiles, and other Trump cheerleaders made it to president (don't scoff, Trump has been elected twice!). And then there are the run of the mill female Trumpites who helped vote him in - twice - and vow to do it again (see YouTube - lots of videos by these people of their adoration for Trump, who is doing his best to ruin their lives along with all those who didn't vote for him). Greene, Boebert and Bondi are particularly repulsive to me, but I haven't seen much of the other female Trump clones. And Levitt is, granted, plain fanatically stupid so may never get into high office, but then again, Trump did...
I’m sure Carlin would’ve had a great deal to say about Trump’s Angels had he not long died before their rise. But he’d have gone after them as brainless humans instead of as prospects as a universe-creating deity.
The person who is holding authority figures to the standards set forth by the constitution, or the mayor who is pissing all over the constitution?
The person who is requesting equal rights to religion, or the person trying to coerce their religion onto others?
The person tactfully asking questions, or the person whining about having to listen to someone they don’t care about, accusing the questioner of disrespect, and throwing a temper tantrum in the middle of a professional meeting?
Of course he is going to project his faults on Dworkin, he knows he’s a turd.
They likes of Rees? The U.S. has always had obscenely wealthy millionaires/billionaires and republicans (authors and/or aware of Project 25, the plan to destroy the U.S.), and huge numbers of other fascists, neo-Nazis, christian nationalists and other white supremacists (e.g., KKK) but they've never had something like them to openly rally around until Trump. I think Trumpites all see themselves in Trump, the multi-convicted felon, sexual predator, insurrectionist, pardoner and friend and admirer of violent felons, completely incompetent bankrupt business person... Trump is a criminal, first last and always, and his behaviour is just that of a criminal with close to unlimited power.
To me, what's more offensive even than the Christian piss-marking is the naked disdain for the mere suggestion that he should listen to his constituents- that he owes them anything, rather than 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘮 owing 𝘩𝘪𝘮. Here's a man who wants to 𝘳𝘶𝘭𝘦, not to govern; he sees his station as something which is his by right, and probably feels very put out that he hasn't been elevated to State or National office by now.
I wish Dworkin had asked him 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 question: "Mr. Mayor, are you aware that you work for the people of this municipality, not the other way around?"
His remark that he didn't see the point in reading a particular constituent's email extends to every email. I sent him one, the autoresponder came back with christianese dismissiveness.
Martin Luther had a lot to say about the evils of 'reason.' Here is just one quote:
"Reason must be deluded, blinded, and destroyed. Faith must trample underfoot all reason, sense, and understanding, and whatever it sees must be put out of sight and ... know nothing but the word of God."
Or this:
Reason is a whore, the greatest enemy that faith has; it never comes to the aid of spiritual things, but more frequently than not struggles against the divine Word, treating with contempt all that emanates from God.
In my youth the name Martin Luther King seemed to go on a little too long. In my old age the name Martin Luther seems to stop short. Has history changed or have I?
I'd really like read that in the original - could you help there?
Edit - the reason being that it doesn't really read like I'd expect Luther to sound. Now, that could be down to the translation, mainly as 'reason' could mean a number of things. Or it could be something else entirely.
I just don't want to jump into making judgements without knowing more.
I can speak some German, understand a bit more, but I don’t read it. I would imagine that you could go to Google in Germany and search there for the original German. I think it’s Google.de, but I’m not sure about that.
Those two comments are just two of the ones I’ve seen when it comes to Martin Luther and the subject of reason. I suspect that they’re fairly accurate because they are fairly consistent.
But Luthor never provided legitimate - credible, reliable, objective, verifiable - evidence for the existence of his "god", and no one else has to date. I wonder if those who condemn reason for faith would take a loved one with cancer to a rationale, medical doctor or an evangelist? Faith - no matter what - is the cry both of the religious and the disciples of Trump.
Rees clearly thinks that he has the right to use the power of his office to suppress points of view with which he disagrees. He does NOT. Founders like George Mason, James Madison and Thomas Jefferson distinguished between mere religious tolerance, which implies that expressing views other than the majoritarian is a privilege bestowed by a higher authority [in this case the mayor of Winter Garden, FL] and can be withdrawn, and religious freedom, which states that religious views are an inalienable right subject only to the reason and conscience of the individual. In 1789, the principle of religious freedom was first established in law when VA passed Thomas Jefferson's Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom, which states in part:
"that to suffer the civil magistrate to intrude his powers into the field of opinion and to restrain the profession or propagation of principles on supposition of their ill tendency is a dangerous fallacy, which at once destroys all religious liberty, because he being of course judge of that tendency will make his opinions the rule of judgment, and approve or condemn the sentiments of others only as they shall square with or differ from his own;”
John Rees is either ignorant of our history or he doesn't give a damn. Either way, he's wrong. I hope Joseph Richardson and Central Florida Freethought Community sue the mayor and city manager for violating their First Amendment rights. This christian privilege shit has to end.
Liberals don't know about it. Rusty Bowers, the Arizona Republican who testified at the Jan 6th Commission, said at one point in his testimony that he didn't approve of breaking the "current law." That perked me up. Why throw "current" in there? I don't think any of the media noticed. The other thing that disappointed me about that hearing was when Democrat Bennie Thompson joined Liz Cheney in referring to the US Constitution as god-given or something. As if Moses trekked back up the mountain and got another set of tablets, and kept them hidden for 5,000 years?? I wish wish wish religion would disappear.
And like all Trumpite stooges, Rees forgets that all voters in area pay his salary, not just those to stupid to see what an nasty, ignorant person he is.
What an arrogant prick the mayor is, to say that “he doesn’t read anything that Mrs. Dworkin writes” because, “he doesn’t see any point in it.” Someone could easily say the same thing about him. The only lack of respect I witnessed above was from the mayor.
It should be pretty obvious why Mayor Rees doesn't want a Day of Reason: he himself is NOT REASONABLE, nor apparently can he be reasoned with. It seems as though he thinks that reason is against his god, much as Martin Luther did. What he utterly ignores is that there are those of faith who value and employ reason in their lives and do not see the conflict that Rees feels.
Yet one more issue which will want some followup, never mind MORE PRESSURE on Rees, because it is clear to me that he doesn't want to hear or see reason.
But he might pay attention to a strong push to see him kicked out of office.
I'm honestly curious - tell me about Martin Luther rejecting reason?
Mayor Rees:
Quoting you:
𝐼 𝑑𝑜 𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑑 𝑎𝑛𝑦𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑤𝑟𝑖𝑡𝑒. 𝐼 𝑠𝑒𝑒 𝑛𝑜 𝑝𝑜𝑖𝑛𝑡 𝑖𝑛 𝑖𝑡.
I see absolute contempt for a constituent. It is one thing to ignore and not act on constituent complants but to refuse to even listen to them. Just wow.
Quoting you again:
𝐴𝑛𝑑 𝑖𝑡'𝑠 𝑚𝑦 𝑜𝑝𝑖𝑛𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑎 𝑐𝑜𝑢𝑝𝑙𝑒 𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑚 𝑠ℎ𝑜𝑤 𝑛𝑜 𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑝𝑒𝑐𝑡 𝑓𝑜𝑟 𝐺𝑜𝑑, 𝑛𝑜 𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑝𝑒𝑐𝑡 𝑓𝑜𝑟 𝑜𝑢𝑟 𝑐𝑜𝑢𝑛𝑡𝑟𝑦, 𝑛𝑜 𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑝𝑒𝑐𝑡 𝑓𝑜𝑟 𝑜𝑢𝑟 𝑓𝑙𝑎𝑔, 𝑛𝑜 𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑝𝑒𝑐𝑡 𝑓𝑜𝑟 𝑜𝑢𝑟 𝑃𝑙𝑒𝑑𝑔𝑒 𝑜𝑓 𝐴𝑙𝑙𝑒𝑔𝑖𝑎𝑛𝑐𝑒, 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑛𝑜 𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑝𝑒𝑐𝑡 𝑓𝑜𝑟 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑐𝑖𝑡𝑦 𝑐𝑜𝑚𝑚𝑖𝑠𝑠𝑖𝑜𝑛. 𝐴𝑛𝑑 𝐼 𝑏𝑒𝑡𝑡𝑒𝑟 𝑗𝑢𝑠𝑡 𝑠𝑎𝑦: 𝑇ℎ𝑎𝑡'𝑠 𝑠𝑎𝑑… 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑙𝑒𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑖𝑡 𝑎𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡.
This only shows the depth of your contempt, and where it comes from. "No respect for God." You think that anyone who does not believe in your god is undeserving of citizenship. "No respect for our country." You think that anyone not believing in your god does not respect our country. "No respect for our Pledge of Allegiance." Really? You do know that the phrase "under God" was not inserted until the red scare, right? Funny how its placement divides "one nation" from "indivisible". "No respect for the city commission." Why should anyone respect a city commission that is so under your thumb that they will not go against your unconstitutional ideas? US Constitution,. Article 6: "No religious test". Even before the First Amendment's guarantee of the separation of church and state by the Establishment Clause and the Free Exercise Clause working together, the government was meant to be 𝗲𝘅𝗽𝗹𝗶𝗰𝗶𝘁𝗹𝘆 non-religious. Belief in God is not required.
I am a veteran. Four decades ago, I swore an oath to uphold the Constitution. I took that oath seriously then, and I never forswore that oath. I am also an atheist. I do not believe in your god, or any gods for that matter. I love my country, and I want to see it do better, and truly live up to the promise of liberty and justice for all.
You never really gave an actual answer as to why you rejected the Day of Reason proclamation. I suspect that, if pressed, your answer would include the idea that it must be anti Christian because it doesn't mention God as being connected to reason. As though everything that does not actively promote or acknowledge the Christian God is automatically anti Christian. And to you, anything anti Christian is automatically anti American, regardless of the governmental religious neutrality guaranteed at all levels by Article VI, Amendment I, and Amendment XIV in the Constitution of the United States. That is why you reject a Day of Reason. You believe that using one's mind is un-American.
Damned well written, Joe. I'd say send it to Rees, but we both know he's transmitting and not much receiving, certainly not anything critical of him or his precious god.
I did send it. I added a paragraph explaining that although I am not a constituent, I would like a response, as the world is watching.
Outstanding! I would very much like to hear his response, presuming there is one.
I actually got a response:
"Thank you for your email and hope you have a blessed day
John"
Fucking autoresponder.
"... have a BLESSED day?" Oh, is this cookie sucking for trouble!
My standard reply to "... have a blessed day" is "Why did you say that? I didn't sneeze!"
I'm not a satanist, but I like to say to christians so arrogant, aggressive, condescending and patronising to "bless me", Thank you, satan.
"Have a blessed day" is Christer code. It makes me want to puke when a retail worker says that to me.. I usually respond with "and you have a good day too."
His 𝘢𝘶𝘵𝘰𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘱𝘰𝘯𝘥𝘦𝘳 is set for christianese dismissiveness. He thinks 𝗮𝗹𝗹 of his constituents are beneath him.
“And a very satan day to you too!”
Same here. I hate that blessed day BS. And, it comes across so fake. Ugh.
'blessed day' ... pass me the sick bucket!
That is awful! Foul. Awful.
Around here, no-one absolutely no-one says anything like that. And we have an established church and church people sit in our legislature. But we do not have 'blessed days'.
(PS no, the thing about the bishops in the legislature is not a good idea, I am looking forward to them being removed. We've just kicked out the last of the hereditaries, I'll see movement)
Damn. I would have thought, since you have a name associated with penis ownership, that he would have deigned to give you more of a response than he'd give a, gasp!, woman speaking in public. These people are terrified of us. I think that deep down, they know it's all BS. That said, if Rees is anything like my conservative Christian mother, he most likely read it, hated it, and lied about not reading it. LOL
I got the same response.
I am not expecting one. Rees seems to prefer being the big fish in the small pond. It is very unlikely for him to acknowledge the scrutiny of the ocean.
But if his phones and computers were swamped by complaints?
Well stated, Joe. Elected officials like Mayor Rees have all sworn an oath to uphold the laws of the land. The fact that they now trample on those laws tells you everything you need to know about the quality of their character.
What character?
Their character includes, worship of the new christian nationalist messiah, Trump, a many times convicted felon, friend, pardoner/protector of violent felons, sexual predator, insurrectionist, many times failed and bankrupt business person (I refuse to consider such a thing a man), racist, warmonger... Trump is what the world will think of the U.S. for generations.
“How dare you use his own quotes in context to make him look bad!”
Thanks, but I would be careful of sarcasm when addressing Trump and those like him, such as, Rees. It takes intelligence to understand and appreciate sarcasm, and Trump and his Trumpites don't make the grade. Viscous, cunning, spiteful, fanatical..., but never , ever intelligent.
Excellent! Mr. King, thank you for one of the finest comments I've read in a long time! Mayor Rees is simply against the US Constitution. I wonder if he too, suffers from bone spurs when he's not golfing?
In this current regime it is
Typical crister. Demands respect and shows none. Probably a Trumpista.
Respect is earned, Rees.
Probably? Be reasonable.
Given all the pain, suffering and injustice his God allows to happen, I don't see where that God is really entitled to a lot of respect. A God who sat out the Holocaust, and allows members of the Christian clergy to sexually abuse children is a God I wouldn't worship even if it could be demonstrated that God actually existed.
Christopher Hitchens used to make the powerful argument that heaven watched with folded arms as 99.9% of all creatures ever to live went extinct, often in hideous ways. And that's to say nothing of the numerous travesties, persecutions and violence carried out in 'His' name.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kd-1lFBpPqI
Christopher Hitchens is missed more than ever with the MAGA cult in control. Would have been interesting his opinion on what's going on with religion in the United States today.
He never could stand Donald Trump, so his commentary would have been 🔥
I like this video from Rationality Rules, as a good summary of some of the horror those who worship Abraham's "god" (christians, muslims, jews and other cults) have inflicted on the world, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnOCpacEOFA
Unfortunately, god only likes to watch.
So it seems.
A voyeur, in fact. Not much of a recommendation for worship of It.
Those people didn't pray hard enough. And many of them prayed to the wrong deity. Mostly, though, is they didn't come through with the cash.
Isn't it glasses I see on the mayor's face, and isn't he using a microphone ?
Were they made by pious christians fed of babble tidbits, and only that, or by people exercising their critical thinking and imagination ?
I am not sure how much respect I should give a God, who, knowing in advance that his plan would fail, decided that, and let me remind you that this is an all-knowing and all-powerful God, so that he could have done anything, decided, of his own free will, especially important considering if free will exists, this God would be the only thing in all of creation with free will, that Nickelback should exist.
goodreads.com/quotes/235413-something-is-wrong-here-war-disease-death-destruction-hunger-filth
GREAT quote! That goes in the A|U Quote of the Day tomorrow!
You can’t miss with Carlin. :)
Carlin was right! He is missed now more than ever.
I like and admire what George Carlin, and Christopher Hitchens, but I am petty sure that, if Carlin were still alive, he would have changed his mind about this, "...in any decently-run universe, this guy would've been out on his all-powerful ass a long time ago. And by the way, I say "this guy", because I firmly believe, looking at these results, that if there is a God, it has to be a man. No woman could or would ever fuck things up like this."
How would the U.S. and the world be better off if the likes of Marjorie Taylor Greene, Lauren Opal Boebert, Karoline Claire Leavitt, Pam Bondi, Brooke Rollins, Lori Chavez-DeRemer, Susie Wiles, and other Trump cheerleaders made it to president (don't scoff, Trump has been elected twice!). And then there are the run of the mill female Trumpites who helped vote him in - twice - and vow to do it again (see YouTube - lots of videos by these people of their adoration for Trump, who is doing his best to ruin their lives along with all those who didn't vote for him). Greene, Boebert and Bondi are particularly repulsive to me, but I haven't seen much of the other female Trump clones. And Levitt is, granted, plain fanatically stupid so may never get into high office, but then again, Trump did...
I’m sure Carlin would’ve had a great deal to say about Trump’s Angels had he not long died before their rise. But he’d have gone after them as brainless humans instead of as prospects as a universe-creating deity.
I like Nickelback, and for all the shit they take, they seem to make a good living. Not Taylor Swift good, but then few do.
Deadpool goes to bat for Nickelback
youtu.be/Qgh4wSxAKqo
Who is lacking respect here, Rees?
The person who is holding authority figures to the standards set forth by the constitution, or the mayor who is pissing all over the constitution?
The person who is requesting equal rights to religion, or the person trying to coerce their religion onto others?
The person tactfully asking questions, or the person whining about having to listen to someone they don’t care about, accusing the questioner of disrespect, and throwing a temper tantrum in the middle of a professional meeting?
Of course he is going to project his faults on Dworkin, he knows he’s a turd.
Why does Mayor Rees hate our Constitution?
They likes of Rees? The U.S. has always had obscenely wealthy millionaires/billionaires and republicans (authors and/or aware of Project 25, the plan to destroy the U.S.), and huge numbers of other fascists, neo-Nazis, christian nationalists and other white supremacists (e.g., KKK) but they've never had something like them to openly rally around until Trump. I think Trumpites all see themselves in Trump, the multi-convicted felon, sexual predator, insurrectionist, pardoner and friend and admirer of violent felons, completely incompetent bankrupt business person... Trump is a criminal, first last and always, and his behaviour is just that of a criminal with close to unlimited power.
Any god that demands constant worship is unworthy of worship at all.
That's why I prefer Tak, a creator god in the Discworld universe.
Tak doesn't require that you think of him, only that you think.
https://wiki.lspace.org/Tak
Quite so. Any god who demands 𝘢𝘯𝘺 worship deserves none. If any existed who deserved it, they'd have 𝘦𝘢𝘳𝘯𝘦𝘥 it.
And to earn it, they'd have to not *want* it.
But why any "gods" at all?
I've said before, *ANY* being, deity or mortal, that desires, much less demands, worship is not worthy of it. See Donnie for a visible example.
Or what need is there for any "god/deity" at all?
Why didn't the mayor retract the DEI proclamation? The longer he waits the more his Lord and Savior in the White House will become angry with him.
The DEI proclamation is window dressing to haul out anytime a constituent opposes him. "See, you got your DEI, now shut up and do what I say."
To me, what's more offensive even than the Christian piss-marking is the naked disdain for the mere suggestion that he should listen to his constituents- that he owes them anything, rather than 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘮 owing 𝘩𝘪𝘮. Here's a man who wants to 𝘳𝘶𝘭𝘦, not to govern; he sees his station as something which is his by right, and probably feels very put out that he hasn't been elevated to State or National office by now.
I wish Dworkin had asked him 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 question: "Mr. Mayor, are you aware that you work for the people of this municipality, not the other way around?"
His remark that he didn't see the point in reading a particular constituent's email extends to every email. I sent him one, the autoresponder came back with christianese dismissiveness.
I wonder how his office would deal with thousands of complaints, phone, email, letters, day in, day our until the next election for mayor?
What a prick. He believes he’s a commander in Gilead, but he’s just a paper tiger.
Give these MAGATS the tiniest bit of POWER and they turn into Idi Amin Dada.
Martin Luther had a lot to say about the evils of 'reason.' Here is just one quote:
"Reason must be deluded, blinded, and destroyed. Faith must trample underfoot all reason, sense, and understanding, and whatever it sees must be put out of sight and ... know nothing but the word of God."
Or this:
Reason is a whore, the greatest enemy that faith has; it never comes to the aid of spiritual things, but more frequently than not struggles against the divine Word, treating with contempt all that emanates from God.
In other words, “Ignore your lying eyes. Only in your religious fantasy will your dreams come true!”
Oh, Christians... always so close to getting the point, but never quite catching it.
"𝘉-𝘣-𝘣-𝘣𝘶𝘵 𝘪𝘧 𝘐 𝘶𝘴𝘦 𝘮𝘺 reason, 𝘪𝘵'𝘭𝘭 𝘥𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘳𝘰𝘺 𝘮𝘺 faith!"
We know.
In my youth the name Martin Luther King seemed to go on a little too long. In my old age the name Martin Luther seems to stop short. Has history changed or have I?
Or both?
Martin Luther the Original. The medieval dude who rebelled against the Catholics.
I'd really like read that in the original - could you help there?
Edit - the reason being that it doesn't really read like I'd expect Luther to sound. Now, that could be down to the translation, mainly as 'reason' could mean a number of things. Or it could be something else entirely.
I just don't want to jump into making judgements without knowing more.
I can speak some German, understand a bit more, but I don’t read it. I would imagine that you could go to Google in Germany and search there for the original German. I think it’s Google.de, but I’m not sure about that.
Those two comments are just two of the ones I’ve seen when it comes to Martin Luther and the subject of reason. I suspect that they’re fairly accurate because they are fairly consistent.
But Luthor never provided legitimate - credible, reliable, objective, verifiable - evidence for the existence of his "god", and no one else has to date. I wonder if those who condemn reason for faith would take a loved one with cancer to a rationale, medical doctor or an evangelist? Faith - no matter what - is the cry both of the religious and the disciples of Trump.
Rees is a dick.
Dicks are fun to play with. Him ? Not do much.
Thank you!
Pour une fois qu'on est d'accord sur quelque chose 🤣
I posted that very thought in video form about an hour ago. GMTA! :D
Rees clearly thinks that he has the right to use the power of his office to suppress points of view with which he disagrees. He does NOT. Founders like George Mason, James Madison and Thomas Jefferson distinguished between mere religious tolerance, which implies that expressing views other than the majoritarian is a privilege bestowed by a higher authority [in this case the mayor of Winter Garden, FL] and can be withdrawn, and religious freedom, which states that religious views are an inalienable right subject only to the reason and conscience of the individual. In 1789, the principle of religious freedom was first established in law when VA passed Thomas Jefferson's Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom, which states in part:
"that to suffer the civil magistrate to intrude his powers into the field of opinion and to restrain the profession or propagation of principles on supposition of their ill tendency is a dangerous fallacy, which at once destroys all religious liberty, because he being of course judge of that tendency will make his opinions the rule of judgment, and approve or condemn the sentiments of others only as they shall square with or differ from his own;”
John Rees is either ignorant of our history or he doesn't give a damn. Either way, he's wrong. I hope Joseph Richardson and Central Florida Freethought Community sue the mayor and city manager for violating their First Amendment rights. This christian privilege shit has to end.
Yes, but he is probably waiting for the Convention of the States plot to succeed so the Constitution can be changed to what he wants it to be.
Wouldn't surprise me a bit, Sarah.
Liberals don't know about it. Rusty Bowers, the Arizona Republican who testified at the Jan 6th Commission, said at one point in his testimony that he didn't approve of breaking the "current law." That perked me up. Why throw "current" in there? I don't think any of the media noticed. The other thing that disappointed me about that hearing was when Democrat Bennie Thompson joined Liz Cheney in referring to the US Constitution as god-given or something. As if Moses trekked back up the mountain and got another set of tablets, and kept them hidden for 5,000 years?? I wish wish wish religion would disappear.
That's the problem with making blanket statements. The right-wing project of calling a convention of the states isn't a secret.
And like all Trumpite stooges, Rees forgets that all voters in area pay his salary, not just those to stupid to see what an nasty, ignorant person he is.