I’m going to go out in a limb and say an employee who hangs a sign that says “Allahu Akbar” is not going to get the same deference as one who puts “Jesus saves” in their email signature.
Of course this is only for Christians. They’re following Project 2025, an evangelical Christian playbook specifically written to setup a Christian theocracy in the USA. We are just rolling along the rollercoaster in the Christian funhouse of death and destruction. No one will be left standing inside, only the oligarchs and wealthy preachers who built it are standing outside the mirrored doors, and all they do is preen themselves.
No one will want to work for the government, especially not the folks who aren’t fundie Christians, and leave. Making the department or services fail, all the more easy to eliminate it, avoid whatever investigations they have pending, remove the supports for the working class to lean on in times of need, and cut the taxes for only those who can afford to pay them.
The tipping point is coming. Folks are beginning to get uncomfortable, and there’s going to be hell to pay when we all break. The MAGAts are dropping off like flies because of Epstein, it won’t be all of them, but enough are already waking up. So let’s not forget, Trump is in the Epstein files. He can’t distract with this either.
In my view, it is NEVER okay to force your religious views on anyone, least of all in the work place! This is going to backfire though. People simply do not like having other people force their religion on them. The born again crowd will, of course, play the poor, persecuted victims of the godless left.
Without the .45 reference, agreed. In civilized countries, Australia for example, restraining orders can be used to stop "evangelicals" as well as other stalkers.
So if I look at you the wrong way and you suspect my look is a threat, you might shoot me in the face? Sounds like a Proud Boys attitude (threat) to me.
I worked for a bank. The branch I spent more time in than any other had an employee who was Hindu. She was very outgoing and we had a great working relationship. Lots of joking. One day she and I were alone in the break room and I asked her if I could ask her about Hinduism. She visibly froze up. She said something about being happy being Hindu. I immediately understood that she had been proselytized by Christians. I told her I was atheist, my wife was Jewish, and all I wanted to do was learn about Hinduism from an actual Hindu. She relaxed and after that we spent many an hour talking about Hinduism, but only when we were alone in the break room.
But it was pretty obvious that she had been traumatized by being proselytized by Christians.
I find “If you’re an example of what Jesus does for people, you can keep him” works fairly well at discouraging further conversation with proselytizers.
“to persuade others of the correctness of their own religious views, provided that such efforts are not harassing in nature”. When is it not harassment? I won’t even talk to those holy trollers when they show up at my door or on the street. I sure as hell wouldn’t tolerate it at my job. If I was still working I’d count to ten then calmly tell them to get fucked.
So they are going after all beliefs and ethical systems they don't like, by claiming they aren't "religious". Union organizers? Prohibited because "socialism". Satanists? Prohibited because "not a real religion". Openly gay? Political, prohibited.
They have pissed on the Constitution so much the urine is ankle deep and rising.
This is clearly the Trump administration trying to push its Christian agenda clearly a bridge too far. I would seriously expect this pronouncement to be challenged in court and challenged vigorously.
It's pretty clear to me that someone needs to remind Trump and his cronies of the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment.
But what about their deal? Vote for Trump and you are free to transform the Government and society into a Christian paradise for all Christians to enjoy.
This why I'm not even considering the Job listings in the Maryland/Virginia area that LinkenIn sends me. There is no way I want to be a contractor under *THIS* administration. No matter who you are, there is no job security, no matter how good you are at your job or how vital it is. And open discrimination is at best going to get a "don't do that." wink, wink.
I'd advise any federal worker who is worried about being proselytized to respond the first time it happens: "Alice/Bob, I do not want to discuss religion during work, now or in the future." Then write a short neutral email to the boss just relaying your choice not to engage in such conversations. That way, the inevitable second time it happens, you can request a formal stop or intervention.
The real major problem with the note, of course, is not the religious coworkers. It's the religious managers.
After reading this, I'm trying to decide which kind of popcorn to make for when the drama gets out of hand.
I've seen people try to proselytize in the workplace before, and it never goes well. Quite honestly, if someone is trying to convince me how great Christianity is, I think I'll find them some of my work to do, because I can't remember any employer ever allowing me to stand around chatting with others about non-work subjects of any kind for any reason. Funny how that 'on fire for JESUS!' just goes right out when you ask for help with 𝑎𝑐𝑡𝑢𝑎𝑙 𝑤𝑜𝑟𝑘; you'd think Christians didn't believe in hard work or something.
I’m going to go out in a limb and say an employee who hangs a sign that says “Allahu Akbar” is not going to get the same deference as one who puts “Jesus saves” in their email signature.
Stop it. A sign that says “Allahu Akbar” is anti-Cristian bias! 🤣
True. They were only thinking about christians when making this law. They would be less inclined to permit it if it were anyone else.
Of course this is only for Christians. They’re following Project 2025, an evangelical Christian playbook specifically written to setup a Christian theocracy in the USA. We are just rolling along the rollercoaster in the Christian funhouse of death and destruction. No one will be left standing inside, only the oligarchs and wealthy preachers who built it are standing outside the mirrored doors, and all they do is preen themselves.
No one will want to work for the government, especially not the folks who aren’t fundie Christians, and leave. Making the department or services fail, all the more easy to eliminate it, avoid whatever investigations they have pending, remove the supports for the working class to lean on in times of need, and cut the taxes for only those who can afford to pay them.
The tipping point is coming. Folks are beginning to get uncomfortable, and there’s going to be hell to pay when we all break. The MAGAts are dropping off like flies because of Epstein, it won’t be all of them, but enough are already waking up. So let’s not forget, Trump is in the Epstein files. He can’t distract with this either.
Amen.
Sadly, I’m not sure there is a tipping point for those in the MAGA cult. Perhaps, for some on the outskirts still.
Remember when Trump said he’d be “too busy working to play golf”?
https://www.thedailybeast.com/president-donald-trump-struggles-to-be-heard-over-bagpipes-at-his-big-scotland-event/
And he got caught cheating.
According to the supreme court it's not cheating when the president does it.
And also that fucking armoured black golf cart.
That's because it had to have a heavy suspension installed to haul fatass around.
That’s not news.
I do love the bagpipers
Lol
In my view, it is NEVER okay to force your religious views on anyone, least of all in the work place! This is going to backfire though. People simply do not like having other people force their religion on them. The born again crowd will, of course, play the poor, persecuted victims of the godless left.
The Christian Bible explicitly directs christians to leave anyone alone who isn’t ready to hear. Evangelicals don’t care what Jesus taught.
They’ve always hated that dirty hippie peace-loving socialist.
You forgot Jewish, yes? Altho they like to pretend he was white and not Jewish.
They're right to wave their beliefs about ENDS AT MY NOSE!
Nope. My nose is in protected space. If I suspect you're a threat, you may well end up with piercings¹ you hadn't anticipated.
(¹ .45 cal ACP leaves a fairly large hole.)
Without the .45 reference, agreed. In civilized countries, Australia for example, restraining orders can be used to stop "evangelicals" as well as other stalkers.
Aussies don't have the 2nd Amendment to contend with.🫡
So if I look at you the wrong way and you suspect my look is a threat, you might shoot me in the face? Sounds like a Proud Boys attitude (threat) to me.
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I'd recommend you read up on SYG statutes. What you spewed was fückwïttëry, certainly nothing threatening there.
Have some cake. 🍰
Munchygut may not be a frequent poster, but he has been around for quite a while.
Then he should know better.
Wonder if he'd like some pudding? 😉
Pretty sure I shared this before so….sorry!
I worked for a bank. The branch I spent more time in than any other had an employee who was Hindu. She was very outgoing and we had a great working relationship. Lots of joking. One day she and I were alone in the break room and I asked her if I could ask her about Hinduism. She visibly froze up. She said something about being happy being Hindu. I immediately understood that she had been proselytized by Christians. I told her I was atheist, my wife was Jewish, and all I wanted to do was learn about Hinduism from an actual Hindu. She relaxed and after that we spent many an hour talking about Hinduism, but only when we were alone in the break room.
But it was pretty obvious that she had been traumatized by being proselytized by Christians.
I hate this timeline so much.
Have said the same thing any number of times 🫤.
I find “If you’re an example of what Jesus does for people, you can keep him” works fairly well at discouraging further conversation with proselytizers.
I like 'But I don't want to go to heaven!' It sets them up to ask why and I say 'Because I don't want to spend eternity with christians'.
Brilliant.
“to persuade others of the correctness of their own religious views, provided that such efforts are not harassing in nature”. When is it not harassment? I won’t even talk to those holy trollers when they show up at my door or on the street. I sure as hell wouldn’t tolerate it at my job. If I was still working I’d count to ten then calmly tell them to get fucked.
Or call the police if they persist.
… 𝑇𝑖𝑡𝑙𝑒 𝑉𝐼𝐼 𝑑𝑜𝑒𝑠 𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑐𝑜𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑎𝑙𝑙 𝑏𝑒𝑙𝑖𝑒𝑓𝑠. 𝐹𝑜𝑟 𝑒𝑥𝑎𝑚𝑝𝑙𝑒, 𝑠𝑜𝑐𝑖𝑎𝑙, 𝑝𝑜𝑙𝑖𝑡𝑖𝑐𝑎𝑙, 𝑜𝑟 𝑒𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑜𝑚𝑖𝑐 𝑝ℎ𝑖𝑙𝑜𝑠𝑜𝑝ℎ𝑖𝑒𝑠, 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑚𝑒𝑟𝑒 𝑝𝑒𝑟𝑠𝑜𝑛𝑎𝑙 𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑓𝑒𝑟𝑒𝑛𝑐𝑒𝑠, 𝑎𝑟𝑒 𝑛𝑜𝑡 “𝑟𝑒𝑙𝑖𝑔𝑖𝑜𝑢𝑠” 𝑏𝑒𝑙𝑖𝑒𝑓𝑠 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑚𝑒𝑎𝑛𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑡𝑎𝑡𝑢𝑡𝑒.
So they are going after all beliefs and ethical systems they don't like, by claiming they aren't "religious". Union organizers? Prohibited because "socialism". Satanists? Prohibited because "not a real religion". Openly gay? Political, prohibited.
They have pissed on the Constitution so much the urine is ankle deep and rising.
These xtian cowards love their captive audiences. Proseyltizing at work is a hostage situation.
Of course it's "unconstitutional " but this administration and this SCROTUS dgaf.
This is clearly the Trump administration trying to push its Christian agenda clearly a bridge too far. I would seriously expect this pronouncement to be challenged in court and challenged vigorously.
It's pretty clear to me that someone needs to remind Trump and his cronies of the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment.
They mnow what itbis. Thdg just don't feel they need to abide by ant law ir tradition.
Obviously. They want to throw the laws out and run the country by fiat, and Trump is at the head of the line as it comes to that.
Those foreigners get everywhere. Fiat should never be allowed to run the US. What's wrong with GM? Oh, yes....
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/trump-tariffs-take-1-billion-bite-out-gm-earnings-shares-fall-2025-07-22/
Ummm ... Vanity? I think you forgot your meds! 😁
He is British, he only needs a cup of cucumber and a tea sandwich.
ALLLLLLLLLL RIGHTY, THEN!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tJGk4ofc18
English please.
Yeah, it's bad enough when I have to translate French. : )
This just doesn't compute
using the thickfingersmallkeyboardese to english dictionary:
mnow = know
itbis = it is
thdg = they
ant = any
ir = or
Well, looky who has a universal translator. : )
No entiendo. Hablo español 😝
I habloed my español once. Couldn't walk for a week.
Nani ?
But what about their deal? Vote for Trump and you are free to transform the Government and society into a Christian paradise for all Christians to enjoy.
And while you're at it, I've got some swell swampland in Florida I'd like to sell you. 😝
More like Russell Voight and project 2025.
Is it OK to say your coworker is full of shit, respectively of course.
Is there a Bible verse that covers that?
Yes. And one that says the exact opposite.
Yes … I think it’s the verse that spells out the pros and cons of cheap liquorice. Caveat Emptor.
Can you imagine what it would do to team morale if someone did that??
This why I'm not even considering the Job listings in the Maryland/Virginia area that LinkenIn sends me. There is no way I want to be a contractor under *THIS* administration. No matter who you are, there is no job security, no matter how good you are at your job or how vital it is. And open discrimination is at best going to get a "don't do that." wink, wink.
𝑇ℎ𝑒 𝑟𝑢𝑙𝑒 𝑠𝑎𝑦𝑠 ℎ𝑎𝑟𝑎𝑠𝑠𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝑖𝑠𝑛’𝑡 𝑝𝑒𝑟𝑚𝑖𝑡𝑡𝑒𝑑, 𝑠𝑢𝑟𝑒, 𝑏𝑢𝑡 𝑤ℎ𝑎𝑡’𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑑𝑖𝑓𝑓𝑒𝑟𝑒𝑛𝑐𝑒 𝑏𝑒𝑡𝑤𝑒𝑒𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑎𝑛𝑑 “𝑚𝑖𝑙𝑑” 𝑝𝑟𝑜𝑠𝑒𝑙𝑦𝑡𝑖𝑧𝑖𝑛𝑔?!
Repetition, I guess.
I'd advise any federal worker who is worried about being proselytized to respond the first time it happens: "Alice/Bob, I do not want to discuss religion during work, now or in the future." Then write a short neutral email to the boss just relaying your choice not to engage in such conversations. That way, the inevitable second time it happens, you can request a formal stop or intervention.
The real major problem with the note, of course, is not the religious coworkers. It's the religious managers.
👆🎯
After reading this, I'm trying to decide which kind of popcorn to make for when the drama gets out of hand.
I've seen people try to proselytize in the workplace before, and it never goes well. Quite honestly, if someone is trying to convince me how great Christianity is, I think I'll find them some of my work to do, because I can't remember any employer ever allowing me to stand around chatting with others about non-work subjects of any kind for any reason. Funny how that 'on fire for JESUS!' just goes right out when you ask for help with 𝑎𝑐𝑡𝑢𝑎𝑙 𝑤𝑜𝑟𝑘; you'd think Christians didn't believe in hard work or something.