No, they don't. They want it to be THEIR ball, THEIR bat, and THEIR game, and if it isn't, they're going to POUT and HOLD THEIR BREATH UNTIL THEY TURN BLUE!!!
Or until they get their way, which happens entirely too often.
Hell, they don't play particularly well with other CHRISTIANS!
For notable instance, as Wikipedia informs us, "The Thirty Years' War, fought primarily in Central Europe between 1618 and 1648, was one of the most destructive conflicts in human history. An estimated 4.5 to 8 million soldiers and civilians died from the effects of battle, famine, or disease, with parts of Germany reporting population declines of over 50%. ...
"Its causes derived from religious conflict within the Holy Roman Empire, sparked by the 16th-century Reformation. The 1555 Peace of Augsburg attempted to resolve this by dividing the Empire into Catholic and Lutheran states, but was later destabilised by the expansion of Protestantism beyond these boundaries. Combined with disagreements over the limits of imperial authority, religion was thus an important factor in starting the war."
For anyone interested, thereβs a whole section on the wars of religion in the Penguin Atlas of World History. The maps, charts and graphs are really illuminating!
(That auction site usually has some second hand copies available if you donβt fancy paying for a new copy.)
I told a family member who was preaching to me last year around the holidays, who was so sure that their way of Christianity was right, "When you all figure it out amongst the 45k different variations and sects then we can have a conversation."...
"Free speech means tolerating speech you may not like." I've been saying that, in one form or another, since long before I came out as an atheist, and it sure as hell applies here. If those flagpoles are on public land (and it's a slam-dunk that they are!), then they should be available to ANY person or group who wishes to put them to use, presuming that use is non-incendiary in its nature. Anyone who knows The Satanic Temple knows that, while their name may be problematic to some, their message and attitude are positive and respectful. Unfortunately, there are people out there who hear the word, "Satan" and lose their shit, regardless of the message content.
And while we're at it, if TST can't press that space into their service, that hunk of rock with the 10Cs on it needs to GO, and I mean NOW!
You are absolutely right, that freedom of speech does not only mean that you can say what you like, it also means that other people can say what they like.
But it seems increasingly obvious, that the concept of βan inch for mee is also an inch for theeβ is unacceptable for many people. They seem to prefer βan inch for thee, a kilometre for meeβ.
And whatβs worse, they donβt seem to comprehend that this is a real problem!
In 2 Corinthiens Satan is referred to as "the God of this world"... Something I am sure most modern Christians are loath to admit is in their inerrant Bible.
Given their relative body-counts in the Old Testament, I never understood how Satan came to be labeled as the bad guy. Neither God or Satan exist of course, but doesn't take much to get conservative Christians all stirred up when someone raises a flag that praises their imaginary friend's imaginary enemy.
And the 10 people that Satan killed (the 7 sons and 3 daughters of Job) were killed with YHVHs permission and approval. Because that deity wanted to win a bet with his alleged archrival. An archrival whose opinion he valued.
What's not usually mentioned is that Job, the most righteous man in the bible, owned slaves. His slaves were also killed, but since they were seen as property like cattle, they weren't given the status of Job's children as humans.
YHVHs bastard son is no better. All that talk about βbeing washed in the blood of Jesus.β And Jesus is considered by xtians to be the βPrince of Peaceβ when Jesus himself said he DIDNβT come to bring peace to the earth.
God leads a conflict-free non-existence. Except when he needed to overturn a rigged US presidential election. And when his NCAA Final Four brackets didn't win. And...
Let us say an omniscient entity exists, then at a causal nexus (a point at which alternatives exist, between which something with the attributes of personhood can freely choose) the entity would already know which alternative it chose.
This being so, it cannot be omnipotent. If it is omnipotent and can choose between the alternatives, then it cannot know which it chose and hence cannot be omniscient.
Well, he DOES style himself as the "good guy," and because he controlled how the bible was published, Satan basically sucks hind tit in it. I think TST decided that Satan needed better representatives!
Itβs not free speech if it doesnβt protect speech the government doesnβt like.
βThe cityβs flag policy was pretty broad, open to βany person, group, or organization that promotes benevolence, tolerance, and diversity.ββ
Had the mayor actually researched The Satanic Temple, he would have seen that they embody these values. But what he most likely did was get some busy body Christian (who clearly doesnβt promote benevolence, tolerance, and diversity) to tell him about the TST. There were also, probably, threats leading up to the policy change. And if not, the city knew they would come if they did nothing and allow the flag to fly the whole month without comment.
Leaving the Decalogue up while removing the open forum is a choice. It screams what we all here know. Christianity is privileged in this town.
Their book demands the murder of anyone that disagrees with them. We saw this in their witch hunts, star courts, inquisitions,and their maltreatment of Jews over centuries. In WWII the church had NO argument against Nazism because of this. Adolf used this history plus records of priestly rape of kids to silence the kkkatlik "church."
Laugh at it now, but the city was just protecting its citizens from God's wrath. Just remember what happened to Old Hampshire, when they didn't screen the public bulletin board properly and allowed a Buddhist yoga flier to be posted. And we don't speak of Old Hampshire now without a cold shiver running down our spine.
I donβt understand what the BFD is. I have a pentagram on my front door and god hasnβt smote me, my neighbors havenβt complained and itβs in plain view (still seems to be working its mojo on god-botherers).
Lol, of course I know what the BFD is. I believe itβs called βintolerance of different religious views if they arenβt the 10C varietyβ
Ah, you're one of the lucky ones that doesn't live in an HOA, it seems. I suspect the fit my neighborhood tyrants would throw would be truly epic, considering I live in a suburb of Little Salt Lake.
That depends if his local sheriff is protecting him, and shares his perversion. Remember Mike Huckabee just happened to know a state trooper that shared Josh Duggar's molesty hobby?
So he could "counsel him" (on how not to get caught). Why more people have not pointed this obviousness out I don't know.
No need for a lengthy comment today, I think, because you know what time it is here.
β One response was that the Christian monument was part of the townβs βheritageβ and not a promotion of religion.ββ
Okeydokey. So first up: β 1. I, the Lord, am your God. You shall not have any other gods besides me.β Sure does sound like an endorsement or promotion of religion. We might even go so far as to call it a particular commandment from a particular version of a particular God.
Rad!
Second up, the Satanic response: βThat which will not bend must break, and that which can be destroyed by truth should never be spared its demise.β That turned out to be a prophecy. It looks like the truth did indeed destroy that premise. So they broke the ordinance and the public space.
And yet, no violence, no threats, nothing except a prophecy, which turned out to be true.
We know the example. They don't mind a flag honoring indigenous people because thae average person wouldn't think it goes against Christianity. But the Satanic flag? Well, that will make the local churches mad.
It makes one wonder how the town would have reacted to religious iconography connected to other nonchristian religions.
Absolutely. I noticed that when we refused to baptise our kids. Two weird relatives told us the kids would end up in Hell. We told them that Hell in TrΓΈndelag is a really nice place.
Considering that they want EVERYONE to agree with THEIR belief system and they are intolerant of other beliefs or points of view, not just yes, but HELL, YES!
This has made me think of the movement around here, which is trying to yank the UK out of the ECHR. (European Convention of Human Rights). As far as I can gather, the people behind the movement are doing this because they want to be beastly to other people. Without apparently realising that when other people lose their rights, then their own rights are on a shoogly peg.
It is - or at least it used to be - considered that it is sign of progress that the law, any law applies to everyone equally, βwithout fear of favourβ as the line goes. But it really seems that we have left that concept behind, people (some people) really seem to be in favour of arbitrary government. I assume that they are convinced that they will (always) be on the favoured side. Personally I think that they are blind to the danger that the arbitraryness of government could very easily change to their disadvantage.
That little poem βfirst they came for β¦β has become so widespread and well known for a reason!!
"This has made me think of the movement around here, which is trying to yank the UK out of the ECHR. (European Convention of Human Rights). "
With nary a mention of what rights the convention espouses. It would seem that the right-wing and ultra-right-wing parties don't want you to know that it includes the right to life, the right not to be tortured, the right of free assembly, the right to a free trial and the right to freedom of expression amongst others.
Given the whining about censorship and cancel culture of the right, you would think the right would be all in favour of it...
Personally, I have come to really value the right to βdue processβ. It doesnβt sound very sexy, but I really think itβs one of the more important rights. Because it protects against arbitrary government.
Which btw is a sign of authoritarianism. If government is based on the whims of the leader, then no-one has got any certainty, we all will (would) live in constant fear.
I believe some people has an idea that "living in consrant fear" is a good thing as long as it doesn't apply to themselves. I also believ a big part of those people are very, very religious.
A "shoogly peg!" That was a new one on me, had to Google it. Thanks for sharing it!
It's genuinely scary that there are people who want to insist on "rights for me, but not for thee." I wonder if they realize that, allowed to go to its logical conclusion, there will be rights for next to NO ONE.
I suggest that the city officials cut down the "second flagpole," since it's just a constant reminder of their hypocrisy and backward, narrow-minded cowardice. Then change the name of the site from "Citizen's Place" to "Citizens, Know Your Place."
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So most christian groups should be excluded.
The christian religion is frightening and it is one of the primary roots of evil.
Christians do not play well with others.
No, they don't. They want it to be THEIR ball, THEIR bat, and THEIR game, and if it isn't, they're going to POUT and HOLD THEIR BREATH UNTIL THEY TURN BLUE!!!
Or until they get their way, which happens entirely too often.
This is Cartman saying βScrew you guys, Iβm going home.β
Absolutely. I find it to be one of those strange USAian hobbies.
Hell, they don't play particularly well with other CHRISTIANS!
For notable instance, as Wikipedia informs us, "The Thirty Years' War, fought primarily in Central Europe between 1618 and 1648, was one of the most destructive conflicts in human history. An estimated 4.5 to 8 million soldiers and civilians died from the effects of battle, famine, or disease, with parts of Germany reporting population declines of over 50%. ...
"Its causes derived from religious conflict within the Holy Roman Empire, sparked by the 16th-century Reformation. The 1555 Peace of Augsburg attempted to resolve this by dividing the Empire into Catholic and Lutheran states, but was later destabilised by the expansion of Protestantism beyond these boundaries. Combined with disagreements over the limits of imperial authority, religion was thus an important factor in starting the war."
The bloodshed started the moment there was two christian sects.
380 CE. That was when Theodosius I made Nicene Christianity (Catholicism) the state religion of Rome. Shit got real from then on.
It started the moment the christains were allowed the latitude to tear down statues and temples of other gods without fear of consequences.
It started before that with Gnosticism against "standard" Christianity.
ππ―One group saw the power of the other group and it was "game on."
The christian religion is frightening and it is one of the primary roots of evil.
For anyone interested, thereβs a whole section on the wars of religion in the Penguin Atlas of World History. The maps, charts and graphs are really illuminating!
(That auction site usually has some second hand copies available if you donβt fancy paying for a new copy.)
And they're not supposed to play with themselves. Who's left?
Children, as long as they don't squeal.
Hahaha. Oh, hmmm. Hahaha.
I told a family member who was preaching to me last year around the holidays, who was so sure that their way of Christianity was right, "When you all figure it out amongst the 45k different variations and sects then we can have a conversation."...
Included other christians.
The christian religion is frightening and it is one of the primary roots of evil.
I imagine wars and killings being in place before religions grew up.
Nope- always has been some nonsensical BS used for the reason to kill βthe otherβ
Not since Constantine created their rise to power.
Just like Violet Elizabeth Bott: an immortal character from Richmal Crompton's Just William stories, for the benefit of non-Britons.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXiZHXkG-ac
"Free speech means tolerating speech you may not like." I've been saying that, in one form or another, since long before I came out as an atheist, and it sure as hell applies here. If those flagpoles are on public land (and it's a slam-dunk that they are!), then they should be available to ANY person or group who wishes to put them to use, presuming that use is non-incendiary in its nature. Anyone who knows The Satanic Temple knows that, while their name may be problematic to some, their message and attitude are positive and respectful. Unfortunately, there are people out there who hear the word, "Satan" and lose their shit, regardless of the message content.
And while we're at it, if TST can't press that space into their service, that hunk of rock with the 10Cs on it needs to GO, and I mean NOW!
You are absolutely right, that freedom of speech does not only mean that you can say what you like, it also means that other people can say what they like.
But it seems increasingly obvious, that the concept of βan inch for mee is also an inch for theeβ is unacceptable for many people. They seem to prefer βan inch for thee, a kilometre for meeβ.
And whatβs worse, they donβt seem to comprehend that this is a real problem!
And the part they miss (on purpose, I am sure) is that they can get pushback for that "free speech", it does not mean anyone must give them a forum.
In 2 Corinthiens Satan is referred to as "the God of this world"... Something I am sure most modern Christians are loath to admit is in their inerrant Bible.
Yes Satan was an invention, in answer to why "god" let bad things happen.
Given their relative body-counts in the Old Testament, I never understood how Satan came to be labeled as the bad guy. Neither God or Satan exist of course, but doesn't take much to get conservative Christians all stirred up when someone raises a flag that praises their imaginary friend's imaginary enemy.
And the 10 people that Satan killed (the 7 sons and 3 daughters of Job) were killed with YHVHs permission and approval. Because that deity wanted to win a bet with his alleged archrival. An archrival whose opinion he valued.
Those weren't even people , they were just Job's property.
What's not usually mentioned is that Job, the most righteous man in the bible, owned slaves. His slaves were also killed, but since they were seen as property like cattle, they weren't given the status of Job's children as humans.
I liked "Bad Omens" second season treatment of that fable.
I never understood how people could read that and still tell me that Jahve is good.
GMTA.
The bible god was originally a Canaanite war/storm god. It's perfectly logic that he loves blood and death.
YHVHs bastard son is no better. All that talk about βbeing washed in the blood of Jesus.β And Jesus is considered by xtians to be the βPrince of Peaceβ when Jesus himself said he DIDNβT come to bring peace to the earth.
The handful of deaths attributed to Satan were on direct orders from God. Something about a bet, IIRC.
One also asks how any sort of wager can be made when one of the two parties involved is omniscient?
Xtians never think to ask that question when they read the Job story. Or had it read to them.
"Xtians never think" was all you needed to say.
That's pretty much given. :)
"One also asks how any sort of wager can be made when one of the two parties involved is omniscient?"
And given that an omniscient entity can have no free will.
Omniscient AND omnipotent.
God leads a conflict-free non-existence. Except when he needed to overturn a rigged US presidential election. And when his NCAA Final Four brackets didn't win. And...
"Omniscient AND omnipotent"
Let us say an omniscient entity exists, then at a causal nexus (a point at which alternatives exist, between which something with the attributes of personhood can freely choose) the entity would already know which alternative it chose.
This being so, it cannot be omnipotent. If it is omnipotent and can choose between the alternatives, then it cannot know which it chose and hence cannot be omniscient.
So the apologist responds, "Okay, he's just really, REALLY powerful, see, and he knows a lot, and uh ..."
[groan!]
Gawd evolved that ability later on.
So much for βomniscient/omnipotent.β
A bar bet. You know how those gods love to carouse and drink. Look at what a mess Valhalla is on a Saturday night.
Saturday night's alright for Ragnarok.
Get a little smiting in.
I'll upfist an Elton John homage anytime.
Valhalla road is usually not that bad nowadays. It was much more drinking, fighting and dancing back in the 1980-ies.
As it comes to that:
https://ibb.co/HDYKrzfx
God evidently had a better publicist.
Well, he DOES style himself as the "good guy," and because he controlled how the bible was published, Satan basically sucks hind tit in it. I think TST decided that Satan needed better representatives!
It's easy to be the 'good guy' when you kill anyone who says otherwise.
It's an underestimate, there were around 20 million people alive at the time of teh Flud.
Flood? What flood?!? You mean there was a WORLDWIDE FLOOD??? [giggle!]
"You mean there was a WORLDWIDE FLOOD"
Absolutely, though the Egyptians don't seem to have noticed. They were too busy building pyramids.
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They had to so they could keep their grain dry.
An "open forum" closed when an unpopular group gets equal treatment. Big surprise.
Itβs not free speech if it doesnβt protect speech the government doesnβt like.
βThe cityβs flag policy was pretty broad, open to βany person, group, or organization that promotes benevolence, tolerance, and diversity.ββ
Had the mayor actually researched The Satanic Temple, he would have seen that they embody these values. But what he most likely did was get some busy body Christian (who clearly doesnβt promote benevolence, tolerance, and diversity) to tell him about the TST. There were also, probably, threats leading up to the policy change. And if not, the city knew they would come if they did nothing and allow the flag to fly the whole month without comment.
Leaving the Decalogue up while removing the open forum is a choice. It screams what we all here know. Christianity is privileged in this town.
Their book demands the murder of anyone that disagrees with them. We saw this in their witch hunts, star courts, inquisitions,and their maltreatment of Jews over centuries. In WWII the church had NO argument against Nazism because of this. Adolf used this history plus records of priestly rape of kids to silence the kkkatlik "church."
I suspect that, as it comes to TST, it's a knee-jerk reaction. "Satan?!?" EEEEK! Take it down, get it away, KILL IT WITH FIRE!
Rational or critical thinking is NOT happening here ... but you knew that!
He requested more information from me which I sent in kind fully detailing how TST matches the 3-point litmus test
And since the tenets of TST met the rules, the rules had to be changed.
Thank you for trying.
At least you tried to educate them, too bad so many religionistas hate that.
"The cityβs flag policy was pretty broad, open to βany person, group, or organization that promotes benevolence, tolerance, and diversity.β"
That sounds illegal in MAGAmerica. No wonder they changed it.
Nothing in the world makes Nat-Cs shit themselves harder than their imaginary friend's imaginary enemy, does it?
Only thing goofier than imaginary friends is imaginary enemies.
Laugh at it now, but the city was just protecting its citizens from God's wrath. Just remember what happened to Old Hampshire, when they didn't screen the public bulletin board properly and allowed a Buddhist yoga flier to be posted. And we don't speak of Old Hampshire now without a cold shiver running down our spine.
Old Hampshire seems to be doing just fine although they did have a bit of a problem with the Romans.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hampshire
I donβt understand what the BFD is. I have a pentagram on my front door and god hasnβt smote me, my neighbors havenβt complained and itβs in plain view (still seems to be working its mojo on god-botherers).
Lol, of course I know what the BFD is. I believe itβs called βintolerance of different religious views if they arenβt the 10C varietyβ
Ah, you're one of the lucky ones that doesn't live in an HOA, it seems. I suspect the fit my neighborhood tyrants would throw would be truly epic, considering I live in a suburb of Little Salt Lake.
Youβre correct, no gated community or anything similar.
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MAGAT p-ass-tor Joel Webbon tells Trump to round up all his enemies and prosecute them for treason
youtu.be/Rw-yaai6XFo
How long before Webbon is arrested for molestation/rape of children and/or creation/possession/distribution of child porn?
He did this so dumpy will pardon him when he is convicted of kiddie rape.
Bingo. One molester helping another molester escape justice.
I bet it happens on a day of the week that ends with y.
I wouldn't think we'd have that long to wait. The clock is ticking...
That depends if his local sheriff is protecting him, and shares his perversion. Remember Mike Huckabee just happened to know a state trooper that shared Josh Duggar's molesty hobby?
So he could "counsel him" (on how not to get caught). Why more people have not pointed this obviousness out I don't know.
5...4...3...2...
No need for a lengthy comment today, I think, because you know what time it is here.
β One response was that the Christian monument was part of the townβs βheritageβ and not a promotion of religion.ββ
Okeydokey. So first up: β 1. I, the Lord, am your God. You shall not have any other gods besides me.β Sure does sound like an endorsement or promotion of religion. We might even go so far as to call it a particular commandment from a particular version of a particular God.
Rad!
Second up, the Satanic response: βThat which will not bend must break, and that which can be destroyed by truth should never be spared its demise.β That turned out to be a prophecy. It looks like the truth did indeed destroy that premise. So they broke the ordinance and the public space.
And yet, no violence, no threats, nothing except a prophecy, which turned out to be true.
"you know what time it is here"
Hammer Time?
Caffeine
Hey kids, what time is it?
It's Howdy Doody Time.
It's Howdy Doody Time.
Bob Smith and Howdy Do
Say Howdy Do to you.
Let's give a rousing cheer,
Cause Howdy Doody's here,
It's time to start the show,
So kids let's go!
How about the ever-lovin' Thing and...
https://ibb.co/nNNddhd7
But he is clearly fictional, unlike my awesome God. My awesome God doesnβt clobber, he Smites. Thatβs the difference
[TS smells a distinction without a difference...] π
The details in the differences are what determine whether a God is a real God or a fake God. I thought you knew that.
Real god? Fake god? Distinction? Difference? [chuckle]
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We know the example. They don't mind a flag honoring indigenous people because thae average person wouldn't think it goes against Christianity. But the Satanic flag? Well, that will make the local churches mad.
It makes one wonder how the town would have reacted to religious iconography connected to other nonchristian religions.
Fly an Islamic flag with "Allahu Akbar" in Arabic on it, and watch how fast they scream to take it down!
"any person, group, or organization that promotes benevolence, tolerance, and diversity".
Monotheism is the antithesis of diversity.
Absolutely. I noticed that when we refused to baptise our kids. Two weird relatives told us the kids would end up in Hell. We told them that Hell in TrΓΈndelag is a really nice place.
I would have loved to see their faces π€£π€£π€£
Nature makes man wonderfully diverse. Dictator gods demand everyone be identical.
Considering that they want EVERYONE to agree with THEIR belief system and they are intolerant of other beliefs or points of view, not just yes, but HELL, YES!
You would think they would like a flag that proclaims "God is great" no matter what language it is.
And most of them have no idea that Yahweh of the bible and Allah of the Quran ARE THE SAME STUPID GOD!!!
They cannot comprehend others having other gods..
Or worse: not having ANY GODS. π±
Because God needs advertising and must be believed in order to be real to his Billions of adherents.
The bigots are at it again β with their lack of understanding about equal rights and freedom of speechβ¦
Mostly, they think "freedom of speech" means freedom of THEIR speech ... and everyone else can go fish.
This has made me think of the movement around here, which is trying to yank the UK out of the ECHR. (European Convention of Human Rights). As far as I can gather, the people behind the movement are doing this because they want to be beastly to other people. Without apparently realising that when other people lose their rights, then their own rights are on a shoogly peg.
It is - or at least it used to be - considered that it is sign of progress that the law, any law applies to everyone equally, βwithout fear of favourβ as the line goes. But it really seems that we have left that concept behind, people (some people) really seem to be in favour of arbitrary government. I assume that they are convinced that they will (always) be on the favoured side. Personally I think that they are blind to the danger that the arbitraryness of government could very easily change to their disadvantage.
That little poem βfirst they came for β¦β has become so widespread and well known for a reason!!
"This has made me think of the movement around here, which is trying to yank the UK out of the ECHR. (European Convention of Human Rights). "
With nary a mention of what rights the convention espouses. It would seem that the right-wing and ultra-right-wing parties don't want you to know that it includes the right to life, the right not to be tortured, the right of free assembly, the right to a free trial and the right to freedom of expression amongst others.
Given the whining about censorship and cancel culture of the right, you would think the right would be all in favour of it...
Youβre absolutely correct.
Personally, I have come to really value the right to βdue processβ. It doesnβt sound very sexy, but I really think itβs one of the more important rights. Because it protects against arbitrary government.
Which btw is a sign of authoritarianism. If government is based on the whims of the leader, then no-one has got any certainty, we all will (would) live in constant fear.
I believe some people has an idea that "living in consrant fear" is a good thing as long as it doesn't apply to themselves. I also believ a big part of those people are very, very religious.
I think some people always live in fear. "That Black Girl Scout is dangerous." They want everyone to be as afraid of their own shadow as they are.
Evilgelicals do literally believe the Devilβ’ is literally waiting around every corner.
A "shoogly peg!" That was a new one on me, had to Google it. Thanks for sharing it!
It's genuinely scary that there are people who want to insist on "rights for me, but not for thee." I wonder if they realize that, allowed to go to its logical conclusion, there will be rights for next to NO ONE.
Sadly, this kind doesn't care for thinking much.
New to me too. I took a guess based on the construct and the context, then checked Wikipedia. Yep. Now I have to look for a chance to use it.
Itβs just a good Scots phrase.
If youβre interested, thereβs a whole language course available, just look for Stanley Baxter and βParliamo Glasgowβ β¦ ;-) ..
Very funny!
https://youtu.be/T_Lk7qivXbw ?
BOTH rights are antithetical to their gods of dictatorship.
I suggest that the city officials cut down the "second flagpole," since it's just a constant reminder of their hypocrisy and backward, narrow-minded cowardice. Then change the name of the site from "Citizen's Place" to "Citizens, Know Your Place."
Well done!
Thank You for the Wonderful write up!
Hello and welcome.