The fact 82% of evangelicals voted for the most corrupt, incompetent, and grotesquely immoral President in American history demonstrates the disconnect between religion and morality as well as it can be. Based on knowing several of these people, I'm pretty sure they value the authoritarianism of the institutional church far more than anything Jesus supposedly said.
It comes as no surprise that people who don’t live in a fantasy world with invisible supreme beings have a more intelligent voting record than those that use that supernatural crutch.
The vast majority of white evangelicals threw their weight behind an amoral, philandering fascist who secretly mocked them during his first tenure as POTUS. They continue to do so while their Mango Messiah plays them like a cheap violin.
By all means, Christians. Continue to lick Trump's sphincter while he shits in your mouth.
What this also tells me is that the most dogmatic of believers – particularly Catholics and evangelicals – seem to be the most likely to go for the dictatorial approach, which is exactly what Trump is selling. What they don't seem to understand are the multiple ways they are voting against their own interests, issues such as abortion and immigration notwithstanding. It IS just possible that Trump's current streak of repeated misplays may at least begin to wake some of them up.
Note: I said SOME of them. That indoctrination is one hell of a drug, and I'm sure the withdrawal pangs are no fun, either. .😝
Who the hell are the 18% of white Evangelicals who didn't vote for Trump? Find them and execute them... then send them to Detroit. (with apologies to Kentucky Fried Movie)
Being a "none" does not entail intelligence. Many "nones" hold superstitious beliefs that are just as absurd as the beliefs held by card-carrying religious people.
OT : the other day, you wondered how I managed my diabetes without insulin. Due to some last minutes circumstances, my nurse couldn't come for 2 days (the day of the screenshot and the day prior).
Yesterday's menu :
- Breakfast : tomato salad, 1 toast with hummus, tea
- Lunch : "sausages" with sauteed cabbage
- Snack : banana
- Dinner : tomato salad (leftovers from breakfast), tofu with vegetables and herbs, roasted sweet potato
Keeping the population ignorant and illiterate has always been key to the success of religion and political dictatorship. Once you educate the serfs, your days in power are numbered. Evangelicals are dutifully illiterate.
Is it really surprising that religion stands with tyrants? Recorded history, particularly the recoded history of Christianity, has shown that tyranny and that religion go hand in hand.
No surprise at all. Nowhere in the bible does anyone talk about RIGHTS, sure as hell not the rights of the individual. Nor is there any talk about any form of government other than patriarchal autocracy ... unless you want to count theocracy. People governing themselves is utterly foreign to just about every "holy" book I'm aware of
And that explains a lot as it comes to the Catholics, the evangelicals, and this survey.
OT after yesterday’s and this morning’s bout with David, I noticed that when he comments it usually has two outcomes. Either he has no engagement at all, no likes, no replies, or it’s him defending his horrific takes (like a troll, the troll we know he is) for days sometimes. There rarely a time when he says something worthwhile, something that is hopeful or helpful to us that isn’t condescending. Today, I think his comment was intended to somehow makeup for yesterday since it seems to bolster our perception of Christians, obvious as it is here. He does that a lot. Rule us up over one thing or another and then spend the next several articles being nice until he wants us to pay attention to him again.
Why is he still here? He’s not really a part of the conversation most of the time, but when he is it’s slyly antagonistic. He’s a troll cosplaying as a sea lion trying to hide behind an open minded supportive christian. Anyway, that’s what I’m thinking about it.
I remember the time when I engaged DG with long, multiple paragraphs taking down his talking points. I finally stopped when I realized that, to paraphrase Foghorn Leghorn, I kept pitchin' 'em and he kept missin' 'em.
He is cunning enough to know what limit not to cross so the banhammer is out. We still have the option to block or mute him. Since talking to him is like talking to a wall, let's build one between us and him. With how things are in your country, you don't need more stress.
My entire life I have heard, “you can’t be a Christian and vote democrat”. The last few years this decree has evolved a bit to, “democrats are the devil or support the devil or just evil.” Beyond just don’t vote for them they’re not true Christian. They have spent decades, if not generations, vilifying and dehumanizing folks on the left. Unfortunately, democrats have fought this propaganda by shifting more to the right by claiming centrism, rather than fighting for the left and what is right for humanity. Democrats are still the best option, but we need to pressure them to do the right thing. This regime has woken a bunch of people up, politicians and voters alike.
Christianity is being served by the regime at the moment, this is why it is supporting it. It won’t be for long, but you can’t tell them that. The groundwork was there for convincing voters to vote for the most antichrist candidate ever, with the anti democrat propaganda mentioned above. It didn’t take much for the authoritarian evangelicals and Catholics to gobble up his nonsensical rhetoric.
I see the MAGA base as bunch of narrow minded people who are frightened of anyone who is not just like them. They have been taught that those who are not like them are not only wrong, but active agents of evil. When a right wing strongman dictator wannabe like Trump comes along, promising to get rid of those who they have come to believe are evil, they fall right in line. The authoritarian nature of their belief system has primed them to see iron-fisted rule as the only way to reach their goal of punishing and eliminating their idea of "evil". The indoctrination runs so deep that even gentle approaches pointing out to them the truly evil actions of the NSGOP mostly fail.
I want to make some sort of clever comment here, something about hypocrite not being a good fashion statement or camels and needle eyes, but I find I'm just too tired and disappointed at the moment.
The truth is that despite what I was taught as a child, Christianity has been letting me down and disappointing me for my whole life. Morality has been about money with them for longer than I've been alive. Values have long been negotiable. Truth has been in short supply. So when I hear that the average Christian likely voted for Trump and would probably do so again, I can't even get up the energy to be surprised, because the bottom line is that completely tracks when who Christians have always been. Christian 'values' are something I've learned to avoid like they're radioactive, and Christian people are much the same. I know very well that there are Christians around who are decent people, but over time they've been the exception, not the rule. From my view, it'd be far more of a shock if these people voted for anyone but Trump, so these numbers don't come as any kind of shock.
The next three and a half years cannot go by fast enough. Here's hoping people get sick of this Christianized regime and get out to vote against this BS next election.
There is still debate among Christians, Muslims, and Jews about whether they worship different gods all the same God in the "wrong way". It's no stupider than most of the rest of their beliefs to be honest.
I’m of the opinion that evangelicals are already used to dictatorship based on their pastors / ministers telling them what to think, how to act and how to vote. Their love for a rancid Orange is in step with this. You’d think the foul taste would be a turn off.
Going to church is like smoking six packs a day. Smoking kills tastebuds and coats everything in smell and funk, smokers can’t really taste anything unless it’s extreme. Church is blinding them to abuse and authoritarian rule. Obey god, fear god, normal human behaviors are bad, you know. So when they taste what the rancid orange is offering, they only recognize there is a flavor, not that it is bad.
This is exactly why we want separation of church and state. It is also why we are so tired of the constant invocations of a "god" and the insertion of prayer into all parts of life. This is why so many of us have no faith in god botherers. (pun intended). There is no reason for Democrats to push that they are Xtian. Just another example of how out of touch they are from their voters.
Now, if you substitute "religious" with "the poorly educated" (Trump: "I love the poorly educated"), you will have a crystal clear understanding of exactly where 'merika is heading.
The fact 82% of evangelicals voted for the most corrupt, incompetent, and grotesquely immoral President in American history demonstrates the disconnect between religion and morality as well as it can be. Based on knowing several of these people, I'm pretty sure they value the authoritarianism of the institutional church far more than anything Jesus supposedly said.
I agree. Plus, in many cases, Trump voters voted knowingly for an atheist. They don't care what he believes as long as he panders to them.
It comes as no surprise that people who don’t live in a fantasy world with invisible supreme beings have a more intelligent voting record than those that use that supernatural crutch.
The vast majority of white evangelicals threw their weight behind an amoral, philandering fascist who secretly mocked them during his first tenure as POTUS. They continue to do so while their Mango Messiah plays them like a cheap violin.
By all means, Christians. Continue to lick Trump's sphincter while he shits in your mouth.
I agree with you, but EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEWWW!!!! Brain bleach! I am heading for work in a few minutes!
But seriously, that is quite an effective illustration.
They have minds?
What this also tells me is that the most dogmatic of believers – particularly Catholics and evangelicals – seem to be the most likely to go for the dictatorial approach, which is exactly what Trump is selling. What they don't seem to understand are the multiple ways they are voting against their own interests, issues such as abortion and immigration notwithstanding. It IS just possible that Trump's current streak of repeated misplays may at least begin to wake some of them up.
Note: I said SOME of them. That indoctrination is one hell of a drug, and I'm sure the withdrawal pangs are no fun, either. .😝
They refuse to think about the consequences of their actions. The leopards are being kept well fed.
Dictator for a Day
Why can't it be this way?
I'll make my enemies pay
Eliminate the DOJ.
Dictatorforadayshow.com
Who the hell are the 29% of "nones" who didn't vote for Harris?!?
Right-wing idiot-children who are lucky to know their ass from their elbow ... if that.
Who the hell are the 18% of white Evangelicals who didn't vote for Trump? Find them and execute them... then send them to Detroit. (with apologies to Kentucky Fried Movie)
Find them and get them to try and talk sense to their fellow believers.
They probably stayed home because...Kamala Harris.
The laughing vagina owner. The laughing BLACK vagina owner.
HORRORS!
She is a Jezebel who dare to show her teeth !
The shameless hussy.
We try.
Being a "none" does not entail intelligence. Many "nones" hold superstitious beliefs that are just as absurd as the beliefs held by card-carrying religious people.
This is 100 percent true
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b14bb34ba2af694e5fb6744d5e5a070150d334ddcdd50bb26ea1647cb0c8a3af.png
Got the receipts on that one. :)
many many receipts
1000%
99.44%
47.45%
ISWYDT 😆
Gop, 100 reasons for coming for me
And the tear gas throwed' down
There's every reason
And the shrill voice
Comin' for me and for all not lying' down
And believe me
I was the one who let you down
I was your "sorry, I voted for"
'47-'45. 🎶
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cnemP18pS0
Funny how the same people getting all in a tizzy about "pride" don't have a problem with "Proud to be an American" by Lee Greenwood.
I cannot begin to express just how much I hate that song.....and the "artist".
OT : the other day, you wondered how I managed my diabetes without insulin. Due to some last minutes circumstances, my nurse couldn't come for 2 days (the day of the screenshot and the day prior).
Yesterday's menu :
- Breakfast : tomato salad, 1 toast with hummus, tea
- Lunch : "sausages" with sauteed cabbage
- Snack : banana
- Dinner : tomato salad (leftovers from breakfast), tofu with vegetables and herbs, roasted sweet potato
You can see the results below
https://ibb.co/mFVqY0jd
My endocrinologist doesn't want me eating bananas. The only fruit she recommends I eat is berries.
Strange DM was recommended to eat them but she needed potassium.
The hospital only gave me citrus and apples but it may be for convenience more than anything else.
My diabetes is borderline. I don't need insulin yet, my doctor is treating me with a GLP-1 med.
👍👍👍👍👍
Keeping the population ignorant and illiterate has always been key to the success of religion and political dictatorship. Once you educate the serfs, your days in power are numbered. Evangelicals are dutifully illiterate.
Dutifully hateful as well.
Is it really surprising that religion stands with tyrants? Recorded history, particularly the recoded history of Christianity, has shown that tyranny and that religion go hand in hand.
No surprise at all. Nowhere in the bible does anyone talk about RIGHTS, sure as hell not the rights of the individual. Nor is there any talk about any form of government other than patriarchal autocracy ... unless you want to count theocracy. People governing themselves is utterly foreign to just about every "holy" book I'm aware of
And that explains a lot as it comes to the Catholics, the evangelicals, and this survey.
OT after yesterday’s and this morning’s bout with David, I noticed that when he comments it usually has two outcomes. Either he has no engagement at all, no likes, no replies, or it’s him defending his horrific takes (like a troll, the troll we know he is) for days sometimes. There rarely a time when he says something worthwhile, something that is hopeful or helpful to us that isn’t condescending. Today, I think his comment was intended to somehow makeup for yesterday since it seems to bolster our perception of Christians, obvious as it is here. He does that a lot. Rule us up over one thing or another and then spend the next several articles being nice until he wants us to pay attention to him again.
Why is he still here? He’s not really a part of the conversation most of the time, but when he is it’s slyly antagonistic. He’s a troll cosplaying as a sea lion trying to hide behind an open minded supportive christian. Anyway, that’s what I’m thinking about it.
👏Spot on, as always.
I remember the time when I engaged DG with long, multiple paragraphs taking down his talking points. I finally stopped when I realized that, to paraphrase Foghorn Leghorn, I kept pitchin' 'em and he kept missin' 'em.
"deny, attack, reverse victim and offender"
Occasionally it's him telling us we have a point and he will think about it...then goes right on not thinking.
He is cunning enough to know what limit not to cross so the banhammer is out. We still have the option to block or mute him. Since talking to him is like talking to a wall, let's build one between us and him. With how things are in your country, you don't need more stress.
My entire life I have heard, “you can’t be a Christian and vote democrat”. The last few years this decree has evolved a bit to, “democrats are the devil or support the devil or just evil.” Beyond just don’t vote for them they’re not true Christian. They have spent decades, if not generations, vilifying and dehumanizing folks on the left. Unfortunately, democrats have fought this propaganda by shifting more to the right by claiming centrism, rather than fighting for the left and what is right for humanity. Democrats are still the best option, but we need to pressure them to do the right thing. This regime has woken a bunch of people up, politicians and voters alike.
Christianity is being served by the regime at the moment, this is why it is supporting it. It won’t be for long, but you can’t tell them that. The groundwork was there for convincing voters to vote for the most antichrist candidate ever, with the anti democrat propaganda mentioned above. It didn’t take much for the authoritarian evangelicals and Catholics to gobble up his nonsensical rhetoric.
I see the MAGA base as bunch of narrow minded people who are frightened of anyone who is not just like them. They have been taught that those who are not like them are not only wrong, but active agents of evil. When a right wing strongman dictator wannabe like Trump comes along, promising to get rid of those who they have come to believe are evil, they fall right in line. The authoritarian nature of their belief system has primed them to see iron-fisted rule as the only way to reach their goal of punishing and eliminating their idea of "evil". The indoctrination runs so deep that even gentle approaches pointing out to them the truly evil actions of the NSGOP mostly fail.
The Brainwashed MAGAT base includes creationists, too.
Flat-Earthers as well.
What's hilarious is that Flatheads call their movement "global."
You expect them to actually understand the meaning of words? From what I've seen, flatheads love to redefine everything anyway.
IKR? "Worldwide" would have been the term to use, but they go with "global." 😅
Hell, if there's a Creationist who actually votes for a Democrat, I'd be stunned!
I want to make some sort of clever comment here, something about hypocrite not being a good fashion statement or camels and needle eyes, but I find I'm just too tired and disappointed at the moment.
The truth is that despite what I was taught as a child, Christianity has been letting me down and disappointing me for my whole life. Morality has been about money with them for longer than I've been alive. Values have long been negotiable. Truth has been in short supply. So when I hear that the average Christian likely voted for Trump and would probably do so again, I can't even get up the energy to be surprised, because the bottom line is that completely tracks when who Christians have always been. Christian 'values' are something I've learned to avoid like they're radioactive, and Christian people are much the same. I know very well that there are Christians around who are decent people, but over time they've been the exception, not the rule. From my view, it'd be far more of a shock if these people voted for anyone but Trump, so these numbers don't come as any kind of shock.
The next three and a half years cannot go by fast enough. Here's hoping people get sick of this Christianized regime and get out to vote against this BS next election.
There is still debate among Christians, Muslims, and Jews about whether they worship different gods all the same God in the "wrong way". It's no stupider than most of the rest of their beliefs to be honest.
The Abrahamic faiths are, bar none, the world's original broken fan base, I swear.
I’m of the opinion that evangelicals are already used to dictatorship based on their pastors / ministers telling them what to think, how to act and how to vote. Their love for a rancid Orange is in step with this. You’d think the foul taste would be a turn off.
Going to church is like smoking six packs a day. Smoking kills tastebuds and coats everything in smell and funk, smokers can’t really taste anything unless it’s extreme. Church is blinding them to abuse and authoritarian rule. Obey god, fear god, normal human behaviors are bad, you know. So when they taste what the rancid orange is offering, they only recognize there is a flavor, not that it is bad.
Never thought of it that way, but that is a most apt description.
Jesus is flavor country.
This is exactly why we want separation of church and state. It is also why we are so tired of the constant invocations of a "god" and the insertion of prayer into all parts of life. This is why so many of us have no faith in god botherers. (pun intended). There is no reason for Democrats to push that they are Xtian. Just another example of how out of touch they are from their voters.
Stupid is as stupid does.
Malicious is as malicious does.
Seriously, since when did Opposite Day actually become a thing??
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2e9ea4a8ae374304554df13a6da207dab8e6b0e54dee94095b1c8224ebc2f758.jpg
“War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.”
Eta: 1984 is non-fiction.
Now, if you substitute "religious" with "the poorly educated" (Trump: "I love the poorly educated"), you will have a crystal clear understanding of exactly where 'merika is heading.