I’m thinking more along the lines of barrels containing former paramours - that sort of thing. Definitely some skeletons in someone’s closet if they describe themselves like that.
You got it all wrong. It was a snake that saddled them with sin, wasn't it? Just because that snake did what it was told to do by a godlike entity does not mean it is innocent.
I think this falls under the "when they tell you who they are, believe them" category. The dude did not pick a word having to do with school board accomplishment or effective administration to describe himself, because either he hasn't done that or isn't primarily interested in doing that, or more likely, both.
bingo! It reminds me of the lyrics in "Uneasy Rider" when his car blows a tire in Mississippi, and he's in the redneck bar pretending to be one of them.
Wait a minute. An elected school board in a southern bible belt state 𝘳𝘦𝘫𝘦𝘤𝘵𝘦𝘥 a ten commandments poster rule? I am impressed. They looked at the proposal, knew it violated the Establishment Clause, considered the cost of losing a lawsuit, then rejected it. And further killed future consideration. Apparently, they can be taught!
They can be taught if the penalty is a big whack in the budget. The rest of the board knows it couldn't win in court. And said court costs would be significant. It always comes down to the dollars, rather than the actual issue of promoting christianity in a secular, public school.
Anyone notice this bible-rarely reading, Duck Dynasty asshat has taken up shooting as a hobby? And works in a field where random school shootings kill students several times a year?
They need the opposite of this guy serving their public schools, instead of a bible-thumpin' gun shootin' Duck Dynasty lovin' idjit!
Phenomenal. Arguing about legibility when the proper topic should have been State / Church separation and the inappropriate presence of the Ten Commandments in a public school. The conversation about whether one or the other document is readable has the sense of a similar argument about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin! The ONLY saving grace is that the board voted AGAINST postponing the discussion, rendering the issue moot.
The real tragedy is that the Ten Commandments were considered at all.
It was considered because the Christian Nationalist asshat on the board proposed it. You can tell he's a Christian Nationalist asshat because he admitted to never reading, and IF he did, the only thing he would read was the Bible. He mentioned Duck Dynasty in his bio so he could prove he was just a regular guy, like those multimillionaire businessmen who cosplay as rednecks.
It's surreal, to think that he's now fighting for an *unreadable* display.
But it makes a weird sort of sense. Since fundie adults proclaim the 10Cs are foundational to US government while not putting much effort into following them, their idea for a school sign is one which tells the kids the 10Cs are foundational to the US but doesn't give them the info needed to follow them.
He doesn't care if it's readable or not, as long as it's 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦. Fundie Christians like him are great believers in magic words, regardless of how much they will tell you they're not. As an example, my brother the preacher has absolutely no problem with the content TST uses to counter the Good News Clubs. He only objects to the fact that it's called After School Satan. He thinks the name alone automatically brings "evil" into the school.
No decent public school board member should list "bonding together" as their biggest accomplishment, either. That means you haven't done squat for the school district or the kids.
Which may be a good thing, in this case, as "bonding together" and "realizing board members are different" may be his code for "everything I have proposed so far has gotten shot down." I'm sure the board has approved numerous measures, but probably nothing he agrees with.
There are perfectly good secular justifications for outlawing robbery and murder. Under specific circumstances, such as when giving sworn testimony, it can be illegal to lie. Everything else in the Ten Commandments would be unconstitutional should anyone try writing them into law. It is patently absurd that so many people go on believing the Commandments are somehow the under-pinning of our Constitution. That Constitution makes it illegal for our secular government to choose one religion over another, and specifically bans religious tests for holding public office in this country. The people who keep trying to do these things appear to operate under the assumption it's okay if they do what they would lose their minds over any other religious tradition attempting to do.
Those three (along with 'honor your parents' and 'don't commit adultery') were also cribbed from the Code of Hammurabi. Guess there's a reason "thou shalt not commit plagiarism" isn't in there, eh?
Yeah, a person who doesn’t chose to read, claiming he doesn’t have time, then follows up with “I enjoy watching Duck Dynasty” isn’t really in a position to make decisions about education.
Look, I watch a lot of television and movies, I still find time to read books, lots of books, I even read this blog and news articles on top of scrolling Facebook and playing video games. I’m also raising two children, working full time, making art, acting in plays, and spending time day tripping with my family, I still get days of rest and relaxation. There’s time to read if you prioritize it, and even if you don’t. As an educator, reading is fundamental. Not only for developing the skill of reading for comprehension, which he’s obviously lacking, but for developing empathy. Reading only one book makes you deficient in that skill alone. And the mechanics of reading the Bible, the fact that the translations end up with poor grammar and sentence structure leaves you incapable of educating others in the basics of reading. He literally told the voters he’s completely ignorant. Also, this is where he’s missing the necessary skill to even consider others in his decision making. This is where the majority of Christians lose their ability to live in a society, they lack the empathy to be able to function around other people. Sure, all media develop empathetic skills, but reading tends to be the most effective media for developing it.
Hopefully, the local attention on this issue will bring a competitor next time he’s up for re-election. He needs to lose this job.
It is all about fusing public education with reichwing xtianity. From its inception, xtianity has needed compliant believers with no critical thinking skills. Having believers and their kids exposed to a reasonable and broad education makes for lost sheep to control and grift off of.
What an asshole - what’s clear is this: their whole goal is spending the tax receipts of citizens so they can eventually shovel public money from the treasuries around the land to the untaxed accounts of shamans, preachermans, and other assorted touchers, groupers and rapists.
GET A FUCKING JOB. I’m pretty sure even The Jesus says this at some point.
I seriously doubt that any of those involved in the discussion regarding the display even considered the above statement. The fact is that the Constitution reflects the will of people determined to form a government of, by, and for the people. The Ten Commandments is far more about obligations of human beings to an undemonstrated and unproven god.
So many Kuckkhristian nationalists, so little time.
I do not understand what their fascination with the 10 Commandments is about. They seem to have some problem separating modern Civilization from these alleged ten commandments allegedly coming from some being who was allegedly God. Five of those commandments are all about worshiping that alleged God, and they completely ignore with no problem the one commandment that interferes with going to Walmart on Sunday. Five of them are not the basis of anything, but coincide with some laws, but not all laws, in just about every civilized society. They are certainly not the basis for the constitution, which rejects half of the 10 Commandments.
My guess is that the fascination, if that's the right word, comes from two places. One is the easy digestibility of the 10 Commandments as opposed to reading all the parts of the Bible that are intended to convince you that if you don't worship the Christian God and give him money, you will burn in hell forever. It's not so much about law but about "do what we tell you."
The second place is that Christians seem to love all of the drama or else why did Mel Brooks make the passion of the Christ, one of the funniest bits of sado-porn I've never seen? God giving "the law"was really very high drama, relieved only by the comedy of the Hebrews worshipping a golden jackass 20 minutes after Moses disappeared for a few days. It's all so improbable. This alleged God smites mightily--smightily?--the Egyptians, leads them out of Egypt with pillars of fire and smoke, drown the Egyptian army, feeds the entire population with cookie crumbs, and Aaron, the chief priest who performed mighty Magic While fondling the rods and snakes of the Egyptian priests, leads them on to it as if NONE OF THIS HAD EVER HAPPENED!
As the bald pharaoh Of Thailand mused, "it's a puzzlement".
Too bad Sloan hasn't seen through the sham of the Duck Dynasty boys; upscale tennis-playing sons of wealthy parents pretending to be hillbilly hicks. Not unlike that Vance fella, the shillbilly, who profited from a book of lies that got made into a movie. All based on the lie that he grew up a poor black kid in a mountain shack.
“To me, our job isn’t to make news or get on national media. It’s to do what is best for kids.”
How did this guy end up on a school board? And can we clone a few thousand?
Unfortunately, the right wing manufactured outrage machine might use this to primary them off the ballot when they are up for reelection.
too late for a primary for now!
Anybody else a little skeeved by him describing himself as “forgiven” - like, for what, exactly?
Oh, gee, he's SO SPE-SHUL!!!
I’m thinking more along the lines of barrels containing former paramours - that sort of thing. Definitely some skeletons in someone’s closet if they describe themselves like that.
Isn’t that really odd? xtians believe Jeebus has forgiven them for the original sin he saddled them with in the first place.
You got it all wrong. It was a snake that saddled them with sin, wasn't it? Just because that snake did what it was told to do by a godlike entity does not mean it is innocent.
I don't know about you, but I would never take dietary advice from a talking reptile.
If I said I had met a talking reptile I hope my husband would help me to see a doctor.
"Innocentia probat nihil"
Incompetence?
I think this falls under the "when they tell you who they are, believe them" category. The dude did not pick a word having to do with school board accomplishment or effective administration to describe himself, because either he hasn't done that or isn't primarily interested in doing that, or more likely, both.
Absolutely, it tells you he is one of those weirdos that your mom warned you never to be alone with.
That wierdo actually died some years ago.
For whatever he is going to do. It's preemptive.
^^^THIS.
"No decent public school board member should be proud of reading a grand total of one (1) book ever."
Or of admitting to enjoying watching Duck Dynasty.
Conscientious ignorance. He's AFRAID to read anything else. Choosing to learn is bad for Christianity.
Redneck virtue signalling.
bingo! It reminds me of the lyrics in "Uneasy Rider" when his car blows a tire in Mississippi, and he's in the redneck bar pretending to be one of them.
Wait a minute. An elected school board in a southern bible belt state 𝘳𝘦𝘫𝘦𝘤𝘵𝘦𝘥 a ten commandments poster rule? I am impressed. They looked at the proposal, knew it violated the Establishment Clause, considered the cost of losing a lawsuit, then rejected it. And further killed future consideration. Apparently, they can be taught!
They can be taught if the penalty is a big whack in the budget. The rest of the board knows it couldn't win in court. And said court costs would be significant. It always comes down to the dollars, rather than the actual issue of promoting christianity in a secular, public school.
Anyone notice this bible-rarely reading, Duck Dynasty asshat has taken up shooting as a hobby? And works in a field where random school shootings kill students several times a year?
They need the opposite of this guy serving their public schools, instead of a bible-thumpin' gun shootin' Duck Dynasty lovin' idjit!
+++ I suspect they are more worried about defending the lawsuits that would be sure to follow than they are with the idea of posting the Commandments.
it's a start.
Phenomenal. Arguing about legibility when the proper topic should have been State / Church separation and the inappropriate presence of the Ten Commandments in a public school. The conversation about whether one or the other document is readable has the sense of a similar argument about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin! The ONLY saving grace is that the board voted AGAINST postponing the discussion, rendering the issue moot.
The real tragedy is that the Ten Commandments were considered at all.
It was considered because the Christian Nationalist asshat on the board proposed it. You can tell he's a Christian Nationalist asshat because he admitted to never reading, and IF he did, the only thing he would read was the Bible. He mentioned Duck Dynasty in his bio so he could prove he was just a regular guy, like those multimillionaire businessmen who cosplay as rednecks.
Another RWNJ, struggling along on two brain cells, and one of 'em ain't doin' so good. 😝
He probably thinks God's Not Dead is a documentary.
From Dictator for a Day: "Why read books when you can use them to build The Wall?" -- Donald Trump
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It's surreal, to think that he's now fighting for an *unreadable* display.
But it makes a weird sort of sense. Since fundie adults proclaim the 10Cs are foundational to US government while not putting much effort into following them, their idea for a school sign is one which tells the kids the 10Cs are foundational to the US but doesn't give them the info needed to follow them.
He doesn't care if it's readable or not, as long as it's 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦. Fundie Christians like him are great believers in magic words, regardless of how much they will tell you they're not. As an example, my brother the preacher has absolutely no problem with the content TST uses to counter the Good News Clubs. He only objects to the fact that it's called After School Satan. He thinks the name alone automatically brings "evil" into the school.
It's all showmanship anyways. How many kids do you know who read the posters posted outside the library?
https://jagodibuja.com/lwhg-comic-666/
Rejected! In a bible belt state. This is how that rejection feels to Christers trying to push their religion:
imgur.com/gallery/Wgu6D4E
𝑁𝑜 𝑑𝑒𝑐𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝑝𝑢𝑏𝑙𝑖𝑐 𝑠𝑐ℎ𝑜𝑜𝑙 𝑏𝑜𝑎𝑟𝑑 𝑚𝑒𝑚𝑏𝑒𝑟 𝑠ℎ𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑 𝑏𝑒 𝑝𝑟𝑜𝑢𝑑 𝑜𝑓 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑑𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑎 𝑔𝑟𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑡𝑜𝑡𝑎𝑙 𝑜𝑓 𝑜𝑛𝑒 (1) 𝑏𝑜𝑜𝑘 𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟.
No decent public school board member should list "bonding together" as their biggest accomplishment, either. That means you haven't done squat for the school district or the kids.
Which may be a good thing, in this case, as "bonding together" and "realizing board members are different" may be his code for "everything I have proposed so far has gotten shot down." I'm sure the board has approved numerous measures, but probably nothing he agrees with.
𝑁𝑜 𝑑𝑒𝑐𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝑝𝑢𝑏𝑙𝑖𝑐 𝑠𝑐ℎ𝑜𝑜𝑙 𝑏𝑜𝑎𝑟𝑑 𝑚𝑒𝑚𝑏𝑒𝑟 𝑠ℎ𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑 𝑏𝑒 𝑝𝑟𝑜𝑢𝑑 𝑜𝑓 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑑𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑎 𝑔𝑟𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑡𝑜𝑡𝑎𝑙 𝑜𝑓 𝑜𝑛𝑒 (1) 𝑏𝑜𝑜𝑘 𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟.
They think reading is evil, and they trust no one who believes otherwise. There's demons in them there books.
Worse than demons. There's actual, testable KNOWLEDGE in them. Can't have that. It'd upset the applecart.
There are perfectly good secular justifications for outlawing robbery and murder. Under specific circumstances, such as when giving sworn testimony, it can be illegal to lie. Everything else in the Ten Commandments would be unconstitutional should anyone try writing them into law. It is patently absurd that so many people go on believing the Commandments are somehow the under-pinning of our Constitution. That Constitution makes it illegal for our secular government to choose one religion over another, and specifically bans religious tests for holding public office in this country. The people who keep trying to do these things appear to operate under the assumption it's okay if they do what they would lose their minds over any other religious tradition attempting to do.
Those three (along with 'honor your parents' and 'don't commit adultery') were also cribbed from the Code of Hammurabi. Guess there's a reason "thou shalt not commit plagiarism" isn't in there, eh?
Yeah, a person who doesn’t chose to read, claiming he doesn’t have time, then follows up with “I enjoy watching Duck Dynasty” isn’t really in a position to make decisions about education.
Look, I watch a lot of television and movies, I still find time to read books, lots of books, I even read this blog and news articles on top of scrolling Facebook and playing video games. I’m also raising two children, working full time, making art, acting in plays, and spending time day tripping with my family, I still get days of rest and relaxation. There’s time to read if you prioritize it, and even if you don’t. As an educator, reading is fundamental. Not only for developing the skill of reading for comprehension, which he’s obviously lacking, but for developing empathy. Reading only one book makes you deficient in that skill alone. And the mechanics of reading the Bible, the fact that the translations end up with poor grammar and sentence structure leaves you incapable of educating others in the basics of reading. He literally told the voters he’s completely ignorant. Also, this is where he’s missing the necessary skill to even consider others in his decision making. This is where the majority of Christians lose their ability to live in a society, they lack the empathy to be able to function around other people. Sure, all media develop empathetic skills, but reading tends to be the most effective media for developing it.
Hopefully, the local attention on this issue will bring a competitor next time he’s up for re-election. He needs to lose this job.
Even my uneducated asshole spermdonor read 2 or 3 books a month.
It is all about fusing public education with reichwing xtianity. From its inception, xtianity has needed compliant believers with no critical thinking skills. Having believers and their kids exposed to a reasonable and broad education makes for lost sheep to control and grift off of.
And about hating the founding father's for putting "No religion" in to the constitution.
What an asshole - what’s clear is this: their whole goal is spending the tax receipts of citizens so they can eventually shovel public money from the treasuries around the land to the untaxed accounts of shamans, preachermans, and other assorted touchers, groupers and rapists.
GET A FUCKING JOB. I’m pretty sure even The Jesus says this at some point.
Further observation:
𝑇ℎ𝑒 𝐹𝑖𝑟𝑠𝑡 𝐴𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑑𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑡𝑟𝑎𝑑𝑖𝑐𝑡𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝐹𝑖𝑟𝑠𝑡 𝐶𝑜𝑚𝑚𝑎𝑛𝑑𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡.
-- Aron Ra
I seriously doubt that any of those involved in the discussion regarding the display even considered the above statement. The fact is that the Constitution reflects the will of people determined to form a government of, by, and for the people. The Ten Commandments is far more about obligations of human beings to an undemonstrated and unproven god.
The contrast couldn't be more stark.
Where is that rapture when we need it?
YHVH doesn't want them up there with him. He's like Trump and works to keep his distance from his followers because he disdains them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHCdS7O248g
So many Kuckkhristian nationalists, so little time.
I do not understand what their fascination with the 10 Commandments is about. They seem to have some problem separating modern Civilization from these alleged ten commandments allegedly coming from some being who was allegedly God. Five of those commandments are all about worshiping that alleged God, and they completely ignore with no problem the one commandment that interferes with going to Walmart on Sunday. Five of them are not the basis of anything, but coincide with some laws, but not all laws, in just about every civilized society. They are certainly not the basis for the constitution, which rejects half of the 10 Commandments.
My guess is that the fascination, if that's the right word, comes from two places. One is the easy digestibility of the 10 Commandments as opposed to reading all the parts of the Bible that are intended to convince you that if you don't worship the Christian God and give him money, you will burn in hell forever. It's not so much about law but about "do what we tell you."
The second place is that Christians seem to love all of the drama or else why did Mel Brooks make the passion of the Christ, one of the funniest bits of sado-porn I've never seen? God giving "the law"was really very high drama, relieved only by the comedy of the Hebrews worshipping a golden jackass 20 minutes after Moses disappeared for a few days. It's all so improbable. This alleged God smites mightily--smightily?--the Egyptians, leads them out of Egypt with pillars of fire and smoke, drown the Egyptian army, feeds the entire population with cookie crumbs, and Aaron, the chief priest who performed mighty Magic While fondling the rods and snakes of the Egyptian priests, leads them on to it as if NONE OF THIS HAD EVER HAPPENED!
As the bald pharaoh Of Thailand mused, "it's a puzzlement".
Gibson, not Brooks
Duck Dynasty? Sound more like Dick Dynasty. Glad the Board saw through his little, not-too-subtle charade.
Too bad Sloan hasn't seen through the sham of the Duck Dynasty boys; upscale tennis-playing sons of wealthy parents pretending to be hillbilly hicks. Not unlike that Vance fella, the shillbilly, who profited from a book of lies that got made into a movie. All based on the lie that he grew up a poor black kid in a mountain shack.
Beat me to it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zcEQtG_Ugo