If your faith teaches you that girls are supposed to get married and start shoving out babies as soon as they can get pregnant, and on top of that teaches that men have absolute authority and may have as many wives as they want, this abhorrent behavior is inevitable.
Actually, at this point, no - that's not a disconnect. It's entirely predictable and logical. Abusers place themselves in positions where they are unlikely to suspected or questioned, and the groups that most strongly reward public noise about "family values" are authoritarian religious organizations in which women and children are explicitly held to be property and men are held to speak for God in domestic matters. Conservative religion BREEDS sexual abuse as an inescapable result of its theology and power structures.
Considering the frequency with which stories like this show up on Friendly Atheist and elsewhere, I have to agree. The ongoing problem is that those of the cloth continue to be put on pedestals and considered to be above reproach, even as the concept of faith carries the same "Get Out Of Jail Free Card" mentality.
If stories like these got the same exposure on the evening news as Trump and Putin and Netanyahu did, we might be able to move the needle. Right now, I remain very damned skeptical.
In a sane world, it would be a requirement of Law that upon conviction, these creeps would be subjected to detailed neuropsychiatric evaluation. I'll bet there are reproducible findings. It might not otherwise be legal to mandate it, but I'll bet if it became widely known churches and other organizations who see numbers of children would do it to get insurance.
In his mind, the girl needs to be young enough to not question her role in making the family he values bigger. After all, once they reach adulthood, they are more than capable of telling him to fuck off.
And it seems that once this man started it became an obsession. You never know what's really inside someone's head. Religion has f*cked up a lot of people, as you know. How are you doing?
Yes well this is why even tiny, dysfunctional countries like Yemen have an official marriage age of 18, while the US not only doesn’t mandate a minimum marriage age, but doesn’t allow minors to sign divorce papers. Christians have been preying on the ignorant since the very beginning.
Polygamy is not practiced or permitted in the LDS faith. Only in offshoot groups like the FLDS, the Kingston group aka the Order. It was outlawed in 1890 so as to permit Utah to become a state which didn't happen until 1896.
A sidenote - my great grandfather was a polygamist and had six wives. I have thousands of relatives and never know when I'm going to run into them.
At least weekly, and sometimes daily, I see another story out of Utah or Idaho. CSA is rampant in the mormon faith (that I grew up in, but have since left). The BSA CSA story is linked to the mormon church in so many ways. I'm glad these men are finally getting outed, but it's just the tip of the iceberg there.
The same as if/when Dumb Idiot Ken Ham ends up being exposed as a criminal and his blind followers pulls out all the stops to whitewash his crimes and falsely label him as an innocent man.
Some of the judges out here are in on it, too. They’re always surprised when stings like this bust their peers (older white guy creeps with computers) instead of some heathen.
Based on personal experience, when I meet people who have plenty of faith-based advice for others, I put my hand over my wallet and back away. The late unmourned James Dobson spent a career advocating what amounted to child abuse and Jesus as the ideal model for raising children. Time and time again, these paragons of virtue demonstrate the disconnect between religion and morality.
I never had a decent piece of advice from my father. He was half again as Catholic as the Pope, and convinced you simply could not question anything the church taught. The only advice he ever tried to give me was, “Just do what you're told!” About the worst advice any young person could hear.
It continues to astonish me how frequently those who yap the loudest about "family values" are the ones who are most often the violators of those same values. Almost as bad are those who speak up in support of the offender, not having any serious knowledge of the offenses involved or the kids who have been harmed. "Oh, but he's such a good man," they'll say. Sure he is ... when around THEM.
His behavior around children with no other supervision? 'Nother matter.
Salopard* misogynist. The only one who stood up to him was his father (sperm donor was his favorite child but papi didn't tolerate abuse), he was very fond of my mother.
I'm very sorry about what happened to DM. I know you don't believe in Hell, but I do. Now that he's dead, that sperm doner who did this to DM years ago is now burning in the lowest bowels of Hell right now.
That reminds me of all the republicans who signed a letter for leniency when ex-house squeaker Denny Hastert got popped, for taking out huge sums of money to pay off his molestation victim boys he raped when he was their wrestling coach.
He loves traditional values alright, like 'if they're old enough to bleed, they're old enough to breed' traditional christian values. Faith is a cover for so much evil in this country, one can't help but be suspicious of people who are quick to boast about it at every turn. When you can do evil and then be absolved by muttering to the sky, or some object like a cross, there's nothing to stop you from being a sick POS.
Time to face it. "Not A Drag Queen" has become a meme, and one that is getting more and more use here and likely elsewhere as more stories like this come out.
I just Googled "Not A Drag Queen" (in quotes) and didn't get a lot of applicable hits on Google Images. Might be time to create some!
I wonder if we could somehow get Randy Rainbow to do a "Not a Drag Queen" song. I had that phrase in my head to a tune a little while ago, but I can't remember what it was.
This year, I have made it my project to send some variation of the letter below to many of the sexual abuse cases by religious figures that I come across. Occasionally I get a response. This is the one I sent to the deseret news. For those who don’t know, the Salt Lake City tribune is the liberal newspaper in Salt Lake City, and the desert news is the conservative, very Mormon newspaper in Utah. So it is no surprise at all that he worked for Deseret.
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Dear Mr. Walch,
I am writing to you about the arrest of Joseph Walker for solicitation of a minor— a 14-year-old girl who turned out to be a police officer. Walker was not only a former bishop, but he wrote columns in your newspaper and elsewhere about “traditional family values” and how we as a society, needed to get back to those.
Before I begin what I actually intended to write about, I would like to note something here. There are an awful lot of stories about sexual abuse and assault by Christian pastors showing up on my newsfeed every week— hundreds of arrests, convictions, or sentencings every single year. It doesn’t surprise me. I’ve been studying this for decades. I have some theories about this, but mostly what I have now are observations, and I have them every single week.
Now, although Walker is not a pastor— for a change— and apparently no longer a bishop, for me, this highlights a disturbing, ongoing pattern. He is affiliated with a very conservative denomination— the LDS. So many of these churches, like the Southern Baptists, while obsessing about other people’s sexuality, have been going through a very long sexual abuse crisis-with-coverups, similar to the Roman Catholics. I’m sure you’re aware of floodlit.org. This deals with strictly Mormon abuse cases. And there are a lot of them in their database.
Completely unsurprisingly, Taylor is not transgender, a drag performer, or part of the LGBTQ community—groups that hyper-conservative churches, the Republican Party, the governor and legislature of Utah, and their fellow travelers often malign with unfounded accusations. Instead, Taylor fits a far more statistically common profile: yet another conservative figure, often with deep ties to Christian institutions, arrested for child sexual offenses. He is also relentlessly and unapologetically heterosexual in every public way.As a gay man, I am weary of the relentless scapegoating of my community, while the overwhelming number of documented, non-familial sexual abuse cases—Catholic priests, Protestant pastors, Scout leaders—come from conservative, often religious, circles. These are not isolated incidents, but a systemic crisis.
And what is very interesting to me about SO MANY of these sexual abuse stories is that virtually every single one of these criminals would be described as heterosexual in terms of their interests, experiences, and especially in Walker’s case, public utterances. Not transgender. Not a drag queen. Not part of the LGBT community.
Mainstream media routinely covers individual scandals but rarely investigates the scale. Why is there no national spotlight on the sheer volume of abuse by so-called moral authorities? Instead, coverage too often amplifies baseless smears against marginalized groups. The data tells a different, urgent story.
It’s time journalism caught up. The real story, the real news, is not the abuse, but the decades of blaming innocent people by the people who are either responsible for the abuse, or busy covering it up.
Walch was the reporter, I think on the story about walker. I hope I didn’t get it at all confused.
Nope, I didn’t get it all confused. Walch is the reporter or news desk editor at the Deseret news. Since Walker wrote for them, I thought it would be appropriate to write to them as well
"Walker was initially held in jail without bail, but he has since been released “to home confinement with an electronic ankle monitor.” He’s also forbidden from accessing the internet or having any contact with minors."
And how they will control that ? Will they cut everyone Internet access in his home ? Neighborhood ? Town/city ? Confiscate every cell phone ? Put his photo and all his family members, friend's, acquaintances' in every place that sell burner phones ? Same with minors. Does that include potential grandchildren and grandnieces/nephews ? When will the system wake up and let sexual predators where they belong ? In fucking jail !
Christian privilege on full display here, once again- there is simply no way in hell that 𝘢𝘯𝘺𝘰𝘯𝘦 other than a Bible-thumping, holy-rolling white man would've been granted the luxury of home confinement with an ankle monitor while facing sex crime charges involving children. Not. A. Chance.
If I were a member of his family, I'd just assume all internet access from the house is being monitored by the police.
I'd bet the courts probably don't care who ordered pizza or looked up latest sports scores - so long as sketchy content isn't being accessed, they'll probably ignore the question of who inside the house was doing the typing.
Still, I think this brings up a good side point. It's not as simple as just shutting off service. Internet access isn't just "fun stuff" any more, for many households that's how you do everything from paying utilities and personal banking to kids doing school assignments to buying food. Heck, some of it is automatic - your phone gets it's clock from the internet. The courts, in general, will need to recognize that the family may have a legit need for "internet from that home" even if the accused should not have access to it.
And indeed he was. And why on Earth does anybody at all think of that as a GOOD thing? Faith is a terrible method of figuring out how to live your life, humanity’s all-time, blue-ribbon, gold-medal, undisputed, undefeated, heavyweight world-champion worst method EVER of making decisions! Nobody ever uses faith for anything that can be tested or measured or that really matters in real life.
One of my friends blames it on what he calls the “anonymous intimacy” of the Internet.
This fellow is plainly stating he takes ZERO accountability for his actions. It’s the internet’s fault he’s a predator! Red flags from the start. When you are taught you are the supreme ruler at the top of a structured system, what could go wrong?
Considering that the Mormon church was literally founded by sex pests so greedy and rapacious in their appetites that they wrote polygamy into their cult's holy texts because they couldn't be satisfied with abusing 𝘫𝘶𝘴𝘵 𝘰𝘯𝘦 child at a time... Mormon 𝘷𝘢𝘭𝘶𝘦𝘴 don't 𝘨𝘦𝘵 much more traditional than this.
There’s over 250 comments in this thread and I’m sneaking reads while at work. You’re going to have to be more specific because I’m not going to hunt it down.
Same shit, different day. At this point I’m going to assume all pontificators of religious moral values are just predators in disguise until proven otherwise.
I treat all religious as suffering from extreme mental delusions. I am also prepared to defend myself at a moments notice just in case the voice in their (religious) has convince the religious that I am evil/satan/etc, and the religious must destroy me
All is well, he didn't rape his sons and he actually is a good father for them. They learned traditional values like "rape is ok" and "blaming the victim".
But not surprising in the least! If the Christian Nationalists had it their way, the age of consent would be at nine years old.
I also want to point out (I will probably be call an Islamophobic goon) that Christianity is not the only religion that has child brides. Mohammed supposedly married a nine year old (but didn’t have sexual relations with her until she was twelve, yeah sure), which means muslims can also follow the example of their prophet. I am sure sexual abuse happens in Islamic communities (mosques), in Hindu communities (temples), etc, except those incidents are not widely reported if the incidents are reported at all.
Yes, that is Epstein's lawyer Al Dershowitz's idea.
"And in 1992 he penned an LA Times op-ed entitled "Statutory Rape Is an Outdated Concept," arguing that a teenager old enough to decide to have an abortion is plenty old enough to consent to sex.
Moreover, puberty is apparently arriving earlier, particularly among some ethnic groups. Based on the demographic criteria, the age of consent should be lowered. It certainly should not be as high as 17 or 16. Reasonable people can disagree over whether it should be as low as 14."
𝑊𝑎𝑙𝑘𝑒𝑟 𝑎𝑙𝑙𝑒𝑔𝑒𝑑𝑙𝑦 𝑠𝑡𝑎𝑡𝑒𝑑 ℎ𝑒 𝑑𝑖𝑑 𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑐𝑎𝑟𝑒 𝑖𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑔𝑖𝑟𝑙 𝑤𝑎𝑠 𝑎 𝑚𝑖𝑛𝑜𝑟, 𝑟𝑎𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟 𝑖𝑡 𝑤𝑎𝑠 ℎ𝑒𝑟 𝑎𝑔𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑚𝑎𝑑𝑒 ℎ𝑖𝑚 𝑎𝑟𝑜𝑢𝑠𝑒𝑑, 𝑝𝑜𝑙𝑖𝑐𝑒 𝑛𝑜𝑡𝑒𝑑 𝑖𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑟𝑒𝑝𝑜𝑟𝑡.
If your faith teaches you that girls are supposed to get married and start shoving out babies as soon as they can get pregnant, and on top of that teaches that men have absolute authority and may have as many wives as they want, this abhorrent behavior is inevitable.
Purity culture is disgusting.
A man who prates on and on about family values doesn't care if the girl involved was a minor. Disconnect much?
Actually, at this point, no - that's not a disconnect. It's entirely predictable and logical. Abusers place themselves in positions where they are unlikely to suspected or questioned, and the groups that most strongly reward public noise about "family values" are authoritarian religious organizations in which women and children are explicitly held to be property and men are held to speak for God in domestic matters. Conservative religion BREEDS sexual abuse as an inescapable result of its theology and power structures.
Considering the frequency with which stories like this show up on Friendly Atheist and elsewhere, I have to agree. The ongoing problem is that those of the cloth continue to be put on pedestals and considered to be above reproach, even as the concept of faith carries the same "Get Out Of Jail Free Card" mentality.
If stories like these got the same exposure on the evening news as Trump and Putin and Netanyahu did, we might be able to move the needle. Right now, I remain very damned skeptical.
In a sane world, it would be a requirement of Law that upon conviction, these creeps would be subjected to detailed neuropsychiatric evaluation. I'll bet there are reproducible findings. It might not otherwise be legal to mandate it, but I'll bet if it became widely known churches and other organizations who see numbers of children would do it to get insurance.
They are, often by defense and/or prosecution, and always as part of sentencing, and often followup evals.
The testing needs to be standardized and the results tabulated.
^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^
In his mind, the girl needs to be young enough to not question her role in making the family he values bigger. After all, once they reach adulthood, they are more than capable of telling him to fuck off.
In other words, "Get 'em while they're young." And how many times have we heard THAT?
Answer: too many.
And it seems that once this man started it became an obsession. You never know what's really inside someone's head. Religion has f*cked up a lot of people, as you know. How are you doing?
Yeah I was particularly disgusted by that part. WTF man. W.T.F.
Yes well this is why even tiny, dysfunctional countries like Yemen have an official marriage age of 18, while the US not only doesn’t mandate a minimum marriage age, but doesn’t allow minors to sign divorce papers. Christians have been preying on the ignorant since the very beginning.
Polygamy is not practiced or permitted in the LDS faith. Only in offshoot groups like the FLDS, the Kingston group aka the Order. It was outlawed in 1890 so as to permit Utah to become a state which didn't happen until 1896.
A sidenote - my great grandfather was a polygamist and had six wives. I have thousands of relatives and never know when I'm going to run into them.
𝑂𝑛𝑒 𝑠𝑢𝑝𝑝𝑜𝑟𝑡𝑒𝑟 𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑛 𝑠𝑎𝑖𝑑 𝑊𝑎𝑙𝑘𝑒𝑟 “𝑖𝑠 𝑎 𝑓𝑙𝑎𝑤𝑒𝑑 𝑚𝑎𝑛, 𝑏𝑢𝑡 ℎ𝑒 𝑖𝑠 𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑎 𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑑𝑎𝑡𝑜𝑟 𝑛𝑜𝑟 𝑎 𝑡ℎ𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑡 𝑡𝑜 𝑎𝑛𝑦 𝑐𝑜𝑚𝑚𝑢𝑛𝑖𝑡𝑦 ℎ𝑒 𝑖𝑠 𝑖𝑛𝑣𝑜𝑙𝑣𝑒𝑑 𝑖𝑛.”
Jesus H Motherfucking Christ on a cracker, how blind the indoctrination makes its victims.
At least weekly, and sometimes daily, I see another story out of Utah or Idaho. CSA is rampant in the mormon faith (that I grew up in, but have since left). The BSA CSA story is linked to the mormon church in so many ways. I'm glad these men are finally getting outed, but it's just the tip of the iceberg there.
The same as if/when Dumb Idiot Ken Ham ends up being exposed as a criminal and his blind followers pulls out all the stops to whitewash his crimes and falsely label him as an innocent man.
Some of the judges out here are in on it, too. They’re always surprised when stings like this bust their peers (older white guy creeps with computers) instead of some heathen.
That when theses judges start screaming “Not a true Christian” crap!
At least 50% of Republicans have said they will still support Trump if he’s proven to be on The List, so yeah, the indoctrination is VERY WIDESPREAD.
Remember the old saying 'None so blind as those who refuse to see'? Wilful blindness is the worst possible kind.
Eyes wide shut or perhaps never open.
Not a drag queen at all.
And child molestation IS a traditional value to xtians. They have more than demonstrated this.
Based on personal experience, when I meet people who have plenty of faith-based advice for others, I put my hand over my wallet and back away. The late unmourned James Dobson spent a career advocating what amounted to child abuse and Jesus as the ideal model for raising children. Time and time again, these paragons of virtue demonstrate the disconnect between religion and morality.
Such people need to hear from the children victimized by people like Walker. This is one time when both sides of the story MUST be told!
Agreed.
I have a faith based advice for you. Read books and enjoy yourself 😁
That's always been my model.
This advice will cost you 100 000 Dutch Francs.
So that means absolutely free, considering that the Dutch now uses Euros!
I don't know, you might be able to find some in pawn shops.
Good luck with that 😁
Check’s in the mail.
You are a follower of my dad's advice to me, about loud proclaimers of their religion!
I never had a decent piece of advice from my father. He was half again as Catholic as the Pope, and convinced you simply could not question anything the church taught. The only advice he ever tried to give me was, “Just do what you're told!” About the worst advice any young person could hear.
My dad was not religious, but thank the universe his Catholic mother chose not to inflict that on him.
I wish I had been so lucky, because I deal with the scars to this day.
I am so sorry that happened to you. May you find healing.
It continues to astonish me how frequently those who yap the loudest about "family values" are the ones who are most often the violators of those same values. Almost as bad are those who speak up in support of the offender, not having any serious knowledge of the offenses involved or the kids who have been harmed. "Oh, but he's such a good man," they'll say. Sure he is ... when around THEM.
His behavior around children with no other supervision? 'Nother matter.
My fucking paternal family knew my sperm donor beat DM. Yet, all would have sworn he was a good man led astray by a wicked woman.
Victim blaming is one of those Christian family values they preach about.
Pardon me for asking this, but is the sperm donor who did this in prison or in the grave?
The grave, he croaked somewhen between 2005 and 2016. I have the date on a document somewhere but I don't give a fuck enough to look for it.
Another question: Why did he do this to DM?
Salopard* misogynist. The only one who stood up to him was his father (sperm donor was his favorite child but papi didn't tolerate abuse), he was very fond of my mother.
*(jerk)³
I'm very sorry about what happened to DM. I know you don't believe in Hell, but I do. Now that he's dead, that sperm doner who did this to DM years ago is now burning in the lowest bowels of Hell right now.
Stupid Idiot Dump will join him real soon.
Sure, they believe in "family values."
As in, "𝘩𝘰𝘸 𝘮𝘶𝘤𝘩 𝘤𝘢𝘯 𝘐 𝘴𝘦𝘭𝘭 𝘮𝘺 𝘥𝘢𝘶𝘨𝘩𝘵𝘦𝘳𝘴 𝘧𝘰𝘳?"
I think I know a buyer...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbsMZecRgbI
That reminds me of all the republicans who signed a letter for leniency when ex-house squeaker Denny Hastert got popped, for taking out huge sums of money to pay off his molestation victim boys he raped when he was their wrestling coach.
He loves traditional values alright, like 'if they're old enough to bleed, they're old enough to breed' traditional christian values. Faith is a cover for so much evil in this country, one can't help but be suspicious of people who are quick to boast about it at every turn. When you can do evil and then be absolved by muttering to the sky, or some object like a cross, there's nothing to stop you from being a sick POS.
👆👆👆🎯
Of course, Not. A. Drag. Queen.
Time to face it. "Not A Drag Queen" has become a meme, and one that is getting more and more use here and likely elsewhere as more stories like this come out.
I just Googled "Not A Drag Queen" (in quotes) and didn't get a lot of applicable hits on Google Images. Might be time to create some!
Here's a few:
https://imgur.com/t/not_a_drag_queen
Funny how they're all Republicans, pastors, law enforcement, or domestic combination therof.
Good stuff. I was thinking of something on the order of a split screen.
Left Side: A Drag Queen reading to kids in a public library, with the notation: Drag Queen
Right Side: Perp photo like those in the imgur pix you posted, with the notation, "NOT A DRAG QUEEN."
Whatcha think?
I like that.
I wonder if we could somehow get Randy Rainbow to do a "Not a Drag Queen" song. I had that phrase in my head to a tune a little while ago, but I can't remember what it was.
Or Tim Minchin.
It’s like they aren’t even trying.
In fairness, they don't have to.
This year, I have made it my project to send some variation of the letter below to many of the sexual abuse cases by religious figures that I come across. Occasionally I get a response. This is the one I sent to the deseret news. For those who don’t know, the Salt Lake City tribune is the liberal newspaper in Salt Lake City, and the desert news is the conservative, very Mormon newspaper in Utah. So it is no surprise at all that he worked for Deseret.
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Dear Mr. Walch,
I am writing to you about the arrest of Joseph Walker for solicitation of a minor— a 14-year-old girl who turned out to be a police officer. Walker was not only a former bishop, but he wrote columns in your newspaper and elsewhere about “traditional family values” and how we as a society, needed to get back to those.
Before I begin what I actually intended to write about, I would like to note something here. There are an awful lot of stories about sexual abuse and assault by Christian pastors showing up on my newsfeed every week— hundreds of arrests, convictions, or sentencings every single year. It doesn’t surprise me. I’ve been studying this for decades. I have some theories about this, but mostly what I have now are observations, and I have them every single week.
Now, although Walker is not a pastor— for a change— and apparently no longer a bishop, for me, this highlights a disturbing, ongoing pattern. He is affiliated with a very conservative denomination— the LDS. So many of these churches, like the Southern Baptists, while obsessing about other people’s sexuality, have been going through a very long sexual abuse crisis-with-coverups, similar to the Roman Catholics. I’m sure you’re aware of floodlit.org. This deals with strictly Mormon abuse cases. And there are a lot of them in their database.
Completely unsurprisingly, Taylor is not transgender, a drag performer, or part of the LGBTQ community—groups that hyper-conservative churches, the Republican Party, the governor and legislature of Utah, and their fellow travelers often malign with unfounded accusations. Instead, Taylor fits a far more statistically common profile: yet another conservative figure, often with deep ties to Christian institutions, arrested for child sexual offenses. He is also relentlessly and unapologetically heterosexual in every public way.As a gay man, I am weary of the relentless scapegoating of my community, while the overwhelming number of documented, non-familial sexual abuse cases—Catholic priests, Protestant pastors, Scout leaders—come from conservative, often religious, circles. These are not isolated incidents, but a systemic crisis.
And what is very interesting to me about SO MANY of these sexual abuse stories is that virtually every single one of these criminals would be described as heterosexual in terms of their interests, experiences, and especially in Walker’s case, public utterances. Not transgender. Not a drag queen. Not part of the LGBT community.
Mainstream media routinely covers individual scandals but rarely investigates the scale. Why is there no national spotlight on the sheer volume of abuse by so-called moral authorities? Instead, coverage too often amplifies baseless smears against marginalized groups. The data tells a different, urgent story.
It’s time journalism caught up. The real story, the real news, is not the abuse, but the decades of blaming innocent people by the people who are either responsible for the abuse, or busy covering it up.
Something to think about.
Good stuff. Please let us know about any response(s).
I occasionally get a response to these letters, but nowhere near as often as I should.
Needs a much stronger close with a specific call to action. You are guaranteed no response to "something to think about."
Who is Mr. Walch? Editor or publisher, I’m guessing?
Walch was the reporter, I think on the story about walker. I hope I didn’t get it at all confused.
Nope, I didn’t get it all confused. Walch is the reporter or news desk editor at the Deseret news. Since Walker wrote for them, I thought it would be appropriate to write to them as well
And who is Taylor in §4? I guess another good christian who did inapropriate things with children.
Oh, crap. I made a mistake when I was adapting the letter. I thought I caught it all. Oh well.
"Walker was initially held in jail without bail, but he has since been released “to home confinement with an electronic ankle monitor.” He’s also forbidden from accessing the internet or having any contact with minors."
And how they will control that ? Will they cut everyone Internet access in his home ? Neighborhood ? Town/city ? Confiscate every cell phone ? Put his photo and all his family members, friend's, acquaintances' in every place that sell burner phones ? Same with minors. Does that include potential grandchildren and grandnieces/nephews ? When will the system wake up and let sexual predators where they belong ? In fucking jail !
Christian privilege on full display here, once again- there is simply no way in hell that 𝘢𝘯𝘺𝘰𝘯𝘦 other than a Bible-thumping, holy-rolling white man would've been granted the luxury of home confinement with an ankle monitor while facing sex crime charges involving children. Not. A. Chance.
If I were a member of his family, I'd just assume all internet access from the house is being monitored by the police.
I'd bet the courts probably don't care who ordered pizza or looked up latest sports scores - so long as sketchy content isn't being accessed, they'll probably ignore the question of who inside the house was doing the typing.
Still, I think this brings up a good side point. It's not as simple as just shutting off service. Internet access isn't just "fun stuff" any more, for many households that's how you do everything from paying utilities and personal banking to kids doing school assignments to buying food. Heck, some of it is automatic - your phone gets it's clock from the internet. The courts, in general, will need to recognize that the family may have a legit need for "internet from that home" even if the accused should not have access to it.
"What happened to those guardian angels? Were they busy? Distracted? Not paying attention? Or just not very good at their jobs?"
You were so close, Mr. Groomer McPedo. Here's a hint: ANGELS ARE NOT REAL!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-KSAJrWUAEjoVL.jpg:large
Angels in the outfield.
And the infield.
And the bullpen.
And the dugout.
A-roundin' third and headed for home
It's a brown-eyed handsome man
Anyone can understand the way I feel
"A-roundin' third and headed for home"
🎵Stop right there!🎵
Put me in, coach. I'm ready to play.
(Anyone ever see the goof in that lyric? Baseball has managers, not coaches. They also have lineup cards that are exchanged before play starts) :)
Third base coach, bench coach, hitting coach, ...
Substitutions are allowed.
But the head guy is who both I and the song’s protagonist are addressing, and that is the manager/skipper of the entire club.
The subs are late in the game (unless there’s an injury earlier).
I …think….this is a Casey Stengel quip when the Mets were doing well: “Managing is taking credit for the home runs other people hit.”
They may be Angels, but they're not Guardians:
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse4.mm.bing.net%2Fth%2Fid%2FOIP.tWe7cjmGGxy7ZiHDi6thJwHaF6%3Fpid%3DApi&f=1&ipt=883b0fb8a2361f10e380c7dfb397d09eda7d3a5042ee4a091175c29c1b51e51b&ipo=images
If the Guardians all playing baseball, then the galaxy is in peril.
“Progressive Field”
They aren’t even trying to hide it!
VICTORIA'S SECRET HAS GONE WOKE!!!11
Scary!
https://ibb.co/GvW3CndX
Nice hat.
Furby from hell.
It’s supposed to be from heaven.
An angel as described in Revelation?
Oui
Why does it seem the Republicans have a lock on pedophilia? Too many of these "family values" people are sexual deviants.
No seems about it. 🙄
"Walker presented himself as a man of faith"
And indeed he was. And why on Earth does anybody at all think of that as a GOOD thing? Faith is a terrible method of figuring out how to live your life, humanity’s all-time, blue-ribbon, gold-medal, undisputed, undefeated, heavyweight world-champion worst method EVER of making decisions! Nobody ever uses faith for anything that can be tested or measured or that really matters in real life.
One of my friends blames it on what he calls the “anonymous intimacy” of the Internet.
This fellow is plainly stating he takes ZERO accountability for his actions. It’s the internet’s fault he’s a predator! Red flags from the start. When you are taught you are the supreme ruler at the top of a structured system, what could go wrong?
One of “his friends” 😉
Considering that the Mormon church was literally founded by sex pests so greedy and rapacious in their appetites that they wrote polygamy into their cult's holy texts because they couldn't be satisfied with abusing 𝘫𝘶𝘴𝘵 𝘰𝘯𝘦 child at a time... Mormon 𝘷𝘢𝘭𝘶𝘦𝘴 don't 𝘨𝘦𝘵 much more traditional than this.
Joseph Smith, a convicted criminal, raped children. He had a 14 year old bride. The Mor(m)on cult is filled with pervs.
Brigham "Likes 'Em" Young was no better.
Isn't it legal for 14-year-olds to marry in a couple of US states? Just curious.
Sadly yes:
Massachusetts: 14 years old
New Hampshire: 14 years old
Hawaii: 15 years old
Kansas: 15 years old
Mississippi: 15 years old
Democrats keep trying to raise that age.
Republicans fight tooth and nail to keep it low, sometimes even making it go lower.
See my comment about the age of consent further down the thread!
There’s over 250 comments in this thread and I’m sneaking reads while at work. You’re going to have to be more specific because I’m not going to hunt it down.
Same shit, different day. At this point I’m going to assume all pontificators of religious moral values are just predators in disguise until proven otherwise.
I treat all religious as suffering from extreme mental delusions. I am also prepared to defend myself at a moments notice just in case the voice in their (religious) has convince the religious that I am evil/satan/etc, and the religious must destroy me
Look everyone, another good father and christian
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37732204.amp
Let me guess what the family’s religion is.
Raped a 12-year-old and yet he's not a monster. SUUUUUUUURE he's not. 🤦♂️
And not just any 12 year old but his daughter.
All is well, he didn't rape his sons and he actually is a good father for them. They learned traditional values like "rape is ok" and "blaming the victim".
It wasn't rape, she gave consent.¹
1) Actually it was the father representing his minor daughter, who consented in her name.
🤢🤢🤢🤢😲🤮🤮🤮
You’re not being fair. That was nine years ago. The child he raped is an adult.
With an age of consent lowered to 12 years¹, all this mess wouldn't even have happened in the first place.
1) https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/gop-senator-changed-utah-consent-183711430.html
GOOD NIGHT, IRENE! Gee whiz, let's justify rape by lowering the age of consent past the floorboards and into the basement!
Beyond despicable.
But not surprising in the least! If the Christian Nationalists had it their way, the age of consent would be at nine years old.
I also want to point out (I will probably be call an Islamophobic goon) that Christianity is not the only religion that has child brides. Mohammed supposedly married a nine year old (but didn’t have sexual relations with her until she was twelve, yeah sure), which means muslims can also follow the example of their prophet. I am sure sexual abuse happens in Islamic communities (mosques), in Hindu communities (temples), etc, except those incidents are not widely reported if the incidents are reported at all.
Yes, that is Epstein's lawyer Al Dershowitz's idea.
"And in 1992 he penned an LA Times op-ed entitled "Statutory Rape Is an Outdated Concept," arguing that a teenager old enough to decide to have an abortion is plenty old enough to consent to sex.
Moreover, puberty is apparently arriving earlier, particularly among some ethnic groups. Based on the demographic criteria, the age of consent should be lowered. It certainly should not be as high as 17 or 16. Reasonable people can disagree over whether it should be as low as 14."
https://www.wonkette.com/p/alan-dershowitz-your-life-is-calling?
He was afraid he was going to be caught.
And everyone at that conveniently overlooked the fact she was a child. It's unfairness for unfairness.
Hope this is sarcasm. The “adult” was a child when raped.
It was indeed sarcasm. That’s why I wrote’ the child he raped is an adult.”
And his brainwashed followers.