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Feb 27, 2023·edited Feb 27, 2023

"I believe the Bible to be the Book that gives us all our answers about how to live"

It looks like he's cut his hair and wears mixed fabrics. I bet he's also had a bacon cheeseburger and a shrimp cocktail or two. Has he given all of his possessions away yet?

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No, he hasn't, but I'm sure he's stoned a few sinners to death, especially the ones who pick up sticks on the Sabbath. That's really important to the Lord God of Hosts, because he loves us all so damn much.

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A nurturing father he is not.

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It teaches us how to beat slaves and sell children. WHAT is immoral about that? gawd loves it.

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What, exactly, are these prayers supposed to accomplish other than enforcing rote conformity on Students, and giving Christians a chance to mark their territory in the public schools?

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That is the point. Enforcing rote conformity and marking territory are all they care about. The physical and mental health of children is of no concern to them. Not compared to their "Great Commission" which they accomplished 17 centuries ago. I wouldn't be surprised, in spite of what John Chau thought, if even the North Sentalese have heard the myth of Jesus.

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Hey, a whole big bunch of prayers will ensure that Montana remains THE superlatively desirable place to live, outranking every other state in every measure of civilized life. ...oh...hold on a sec...

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So far from heaven; so close to Idaho.

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Idaho. Too close to Washington.

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Some lovely scenery.

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Exactly.

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Your Jesus told you NOT to pray in public, Kmetz. Don't call yourself his follower if you can't be bothered to do what he says.

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“… I believe the Bible to be the Book that gives us all our answers about how to live, how to love our fellow man, how to build and keep a home, and on and on. “

Let’s not forget that the on and on is literally how to keep slaves. Also, how to treat your wife (and children) as a subordinate or property. So, no sir, I choose not to accept the answers about how to live that the Bible provides. And I do not think it’s an acceptable guide for the country in that way either. You may choose it for yourself, but leave me and my children out of it.

I’m really hatin’ people today. And certain folks here are not helping.

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He does make a block function seem awfully attractive doesn't he? His belief that he's always the smartest person in the "room" is so tedious.

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He's the smartest person in his padded cell. Doesn't that count?

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He's actually the third smartest person in his padded cell.

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On the very rare occasions I've tried to read one of his comments, I get lost in the word salad written in some bizarre variant of the English language.

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He is a sooopa YUUUUUGE Geeneeyus!

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Plus, he’s done all the jobs.

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You know what they say, Jack of all Trades, master of none.

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So the Bible gives us lots of sound advice on cattle ranching? Well okay, then! I missed that bit, but I'm sure it must be in there someplace, and I can't imagine what else people in Montana could need.

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It's right after the part on computer repair, but before the Jaeger blueprints.

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Can I ask who? I'm not seeing anything particularly troll-ish and I don't think I have anyone blocked.

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Neville, aka ST.

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Are these politicians intentionally ignorant or are they just plain stupid? Either way, they seem intent on the downfall of civilization.

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C) Both.

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They work hard at being stupid and ignorant.

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I'd venture to guess that for many of them, they're neither ignorant nor stupid. They know what their base wants, and they're willing to deliver.

In my opinion, that's far worse than ignorance/stupidity, as it's deliberate.

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Yeah, I agree, but some coughMTGcough are also ignorant and stupid. Cunning, as well. It’s really quite frightening to watch.

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Are their constituents who voted for them intentionally ignorant or are they just plain stupid? That's how religion works--it poisons the brain, like putting stupid pills in the drinking water.

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"Prayer is permitted in a school, on school grounds, and at school-sponsored events, but a person may not be compelled to pray. The school day may begin with a prayer."

Except that you forcing me to be there while you do a public group prayer is a non-consensual, offensive act.

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Don’t bring up consent, you’ll confuse the poor GOPer.

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Feb 27, 2023·edited Feb 27, 2023

Christians can pray at home, in their car, in their houses of worship, at bible study and Sunday school. They can even pray in public schools as long as they don't bother anyone else.

Isn't that more than enough, Kmetz? Tell us: What good has all that praying done? What makes you think it will somehow magically change things if it's foisted on public school kids who are in class to learn about real things?

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He will achieve what countless sects didn't, converting everyone* to the right way to be a christian.

* Starting with a charming island located in Andaman Sea.

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It is as cdbunch said: "Enforcing rote conformity and marking territory." I suspect they're like that because they are SO DAMNED INSECURE that they have to have EVERYTHING within their view reflecting their values and behaviors. Otherwise they suffer near crippling cognitive dissonance, which apparently, they have no mechanism to deal with, not even compartmentalization.

And THE LAST THING we need to do is give in to them.

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Exactly, opposing views might cause introspection and questions. And we all know where that leads. Dancing.

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One brick in the that wall missing leads to the collapse of that wall.

That's why Ham is actually thinking rationally about one thing, although the Premises he bases that rational though on are the brain ..., er ..., brain storms of Tweedle-Dumb and Tweedle-Dumber.

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He wants The Children ..., for at least the glands that keep him from aging ...

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Bet Kmetz also gets infusions of puppy blood.

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♪ And they called it puppy blood ♪

Sorry, that song went immediately to my head.

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Feb 28, 2023·edited Feb 28, 2023

And now it's stuck in my head.

Donnie Osmond. *shivers* (although he did a pretty good goofy dance routine behind Weird Al in an early take of "White and Nerdy." Dude really brought it.

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Paul Anka, unless Donnie covered it.

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Feb 28, 2023·edited Feb 28, 2023

He did his version when he was a kid in 1972.

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For some strange reason, I kept hearing Pink Floyd's "Goodbye Blue Sky" in my mind reading this. I think it's followed by "Another Brick in the Wall" on the album.

In any event, this seems like a bill intended for one purpose only - virtue signalling. Yes, it's a bad idea, but we've seen bills like this in various places many times before and the individuals pushing them don't seem to care if the bill actually makes it so long as they can say they tried. Even better, this sort of bill feeds nicely into the Christian persecution complex, since if it doesn't pass they can claim to be a victim of 'Satan's machinations' or some such. It's almost like Kmetz can't lose if you look at this bill from that perspective, since it's good for him regardless of the outcome.

And of course, the real cherry on top is that any one protesting this bill is all but guaranteed to be painted as some sort of mustache-twirling villain in the media as well. Like, say, the FFRF or similar organizations?

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"I am not Jesus" Apocalyptica.

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Feb 27, 2023·edited Feb 27, 2023

Well, it IS a welcome change from the Trump Klan gurning their way about the stage to the echoes of "In the Flesh"?

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"I believe the Bible to be the Book that gives us all our answers about how to live..."

A belief is not a fact, Kmetz.

How to live? Jesus gave instructions on how to beat slaves. Should we follow this advice on how to live?

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Never said they were good answers.

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Indeed. The bible also says it's OK to kill disobedient children. That's just wrong on so many levels.

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Children in general or just your own ? I have a 16 years old nephew.

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Teh bibel says parents are allowed to kill their kids if they're disobedient.

Not only that, they're allowed to cook and eat their children, according to scripture. Cannibalism. Another thing that's totes OK with Kmetz's "Book."

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IT'S A COOK BOOK!!!

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If the guy reading from the bible looks like Richard Kiel:

Run, kids!

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But you're not allowed to cook a kid in its own mother's milk, right?

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I am not Jewish 🤔

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Wait where does it say you can eat your kids? This sounds like a verse I want on hand.

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Cook I can, I have a big oven and an industrial sized pot. But what to do with the dishes after ? 🤔

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Get the remaining kids to do them...or else.

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Parents are very sensitive these days. When I was in school, most parents were fine with the teachers smacking the kids around. Probably part of the reason so many of my generation love the Pink Floyd song, "Another Brick in the Wall, Part 2".

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That's why Quiverfull works. Kill a few kids, you have some spares and the rest get in line. See also: Job.

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Did Job just pretend to be happy with his replacement family so Yahweh wouldn't just replace him too?

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"Yes! Yes! Yes! I wanna! I wanna! I wanna!" --Kmetz

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Theocratic creep isn’t just a great name for a song about Pence, it’s also what is happening to this country.

“ When we have to vote on principles that are clearly outlined in the “Book” there is simply only one way I can vote on these issues.”

What about when the Bible says two separate things about something? You only get one vote, we can hope he gets paralyzed by indecision.

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What pisses me off is that they somehow think that if the 10 Commandments are made compulsory there will be no murder/sex/theft and so on. Forgetting that even – or perhaps especially – religious leaders seem to break these commandments all the time. And if they do it why should anyone else bother?

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Look, squirrel! Is their answer.

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School children bear the brunt of religious zealotry, as this skofflaw disregards case law on ramming religion down their throats. If America is to build any wall, it should be erected between religion and politics.

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Feb 27, 2023·edited Feb 27, 2023

Thomas Paine, referring to Kmetz's oh-so-sacred booky-wook:

"Whenever we read the obscene stories, the voluptuous debaucheries, the cruel and tortuous executions, the unrelenting vindictiveness, with which more than half the Bible is filled, it would be more consistent that we call it the word of a demon, than the word of God. It is a history of wickedness that has served to corrupt and brutalize mankind; and, for my part, I sincerely detest it, as I detest anything that is cruel."

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I find the Gnostic (Cathar?) idea more compelling than Christianity. Two gods, one good and one evil . The god of the Bible is the evil one.

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And beyond any doubt the good one is Eros, or maybe Priapus.

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barton doesn't recognise him as a Founding Father* so it doesn't count.

* No idea if it's true but I wouldn't be shocked if that was the case and I am not about to waste money to check.

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For what it's worth, Paine is not one of the 7 key Founding Fathers, the founders who played large critical roles in the formation of our government.

Too bad he wasn't. He could take the place of John Jay, the only orthodox Christian among the 7.

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Feb 27, 2023·edited Feb 27, 2023

Why does it figure he would have the police college named after him? https://www.jjay.cuny.edu/

Every NYPD boss seems to have gone there. Just like most of the engineers from NYC went to Manhattan College, which happens to be in The Bronx.

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The deal is the revolutionaries DID recognize him as such, which is why he was routinely read out to their armies before a big battle, etc.

See the Mark Steel videos I linked to, previously.

Of course, you have to know some REAL history, but "It Burn-es!, It Burn-es the Barton!!"

Oh, and don't get miffed that he went to Paris at the invitation of the revolutionary government but never bothered to learn any French. He was essentially an Englishman Abroad for his time.

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Why think when you can pray and have a make-believe entity do all the work? Oh, that's right, that's religion.

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Google says the Old testament was written starting about 1500 B.C. So what were humans doing for the previous 30,000 years?

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Evolving thumbs so they could twiddle them.

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30,000 ? He was painting caves in Europe 😏

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Not evolving, that's for sure. ; )

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Animism? Whatever they were doing in Asia? Making up some kind of shit to explain/control. Some kind of nonsense, we seem to love it as a species.

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It sure seems as though Republicans are obsessed with a behavior which DOES NOTHING, and yet they want to insist on its inclusion in our government and our schools. The real corker is that they think prayer actually DOES something when they haven't any demonstrable evidence to that effect.

I wonder how they feel about pissing into the wind?

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I expect they feel moist. 😏

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Feb 27, 2023·edited Feb 27, 2023

They're not Pissing in the Wind. They're obsessed with the FAR MORE IMPORTANT Pissing the Farthest Up the Wall.

Now THAT is Meaning of Life!

The big question is how do you rally a movement against something that actually DOES NOTHING, or DOES NOTHING to the wealth and power of the 1%ers except make it grow?

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OT - DeNazi and company are rewriting FL libel laws so that this will be the result:

https://caglecartoons.com/cartoon/272148

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Feb 28, 2023·edited Feb 28, 2023

Cagle Cartoons is an interesting outfit. My local small city paper uses their political cartoons almost daily. There are at least a handful of cartoonists. A couple are MAGA types while others are sometimes almost liberal. (The paper tries hard to not run off half of it’s subscribers. My local area narrowly voted for Trump just a few years after narrowly voting to approve same-sex marriage. If we ever have another civil war, my area will have a bloodbath.). There is apparently someone whose name is Cagle; that’s one of the MAGAts.

And the local paper has dropped Dilbert.

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Sounds like a typical religious right-winger.

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