Another pious paragon of virtue bites the dust. I will never understand why people willingly delegate an important part of their thinking to the clergy. They are as deeply flawed as every other human being, and if anything they’re bigger hypocrites.
Worse, most clergy have about as much expertise in genuine counseling as could be kept in a Lilliputian thimble, and that sure looks like the case here.
I have a cousin who is an Episcopal Priest. She has a PhD from Yale in some useless subject, and she engages in counseling. By any objective standard, she’s a nut case.
If these folks STILL haven’t gotten the message after all the arrests, they never will. They’d rather go through life with eyewear that filters out anything they don’t want to see.
Purity culture nonsense does not excuse the horrible acts perpetrated by Peternel's son, but it does help to explain them. Purity culture nonsense blinded Peternel to the criminality lurking within his son, and prevented him from seeking the professional help that his son may have benefited from. This aided his son in doing what he did.
It is the purity culture nonsense that also led Peternel to apologize to hos congregation for having had the audacity to make a 𝗽𝗿𝗶𝘃𝗮𝘁𝗲 recording of consensual sex with his wife, the only type of sex that same purity culture nonsense insists is acceptable.
I don't quite understand how sexy images of yourself and your wife, intended only for your personal use, violates purity culture.
They do allow sex for enjoyment as long as it's within a hetero marriage. But maybe, just maybe, they prohibit recording the act because they might masturbate while looking at it.
Do you understand the phrase: “close your eyes and think of England?”
You’re not supposed to think about sex. As your punishment, I’m going to order you to go stand in the corner for an hour and not think about sex, not even once.
When they are taught that the most forbidden thing they can do is sex that is not between a husband and a wife (they even forbid solo sex), the forbidden fruit desire brings about obsession.
There is so much to unpack here on my 1st cup of coffee. Hemant simply has no pity on me. But let’s start here. In my best Goofy voice: “Gorsh! Who woulda thunk that a person obsessed about sex would be obsessed about sex? It’s diabolical, I tells ya! Diabolical!”
And the debbil made him do it!
So much to say about this.
First, it’s pretty clear where Junior got his sex obsession. But the real question is where did he get the sex videos? His son, “who was high at the time“, managed to hack into his parents private account. How did he even know about the existence of this private account? How did he know what was in it? Did he know what he would find? Was it really not so private? And why were those so many of them? Not to mention, his mom and dad? I admit, dad is kind of hot in a creepy, decrepit straight boy sort of way, but still, More questions than answers.
Second, the church make sure to refer to Peter-nelly’s “adult” son. Nothing to see here. No children involved. Keep those donations cumming— erm, coming!
“Dude” is obsessed with sexuality and kids among the rest of his obsessions with sexuality and fill in the blank. And somehow, his “adult“ son didn’t manage to escape that. That’s like saying water couldn’t possibly be wet.
And there’s a kicker here to this obsession with sexuality: he has to go through a “restorative“ process. That certainly reads like reeducation to me, but I’m one of those damn leftists. But I remember another prominent pastor who went through a restorative process: Haggard Ted. He went through it if I recall three times, and was declared completely heterosexual. It only took God three times to change him. And of course, sex scandals followed Haggard Ted anyway because Haggard Ted was Haggard Ted. Finally, Ted admitted to being bisexual. Better than being trisexual I guess, because that would mean he would tri anything.
With all of that leads back to my first question: a man obsessed with sex, to the point where he asks teenagers about what they’re doing when they’re making the beast with two backs, or in Christian terms, having a resurrection of the flesh… oh, wait! Girls don’t experience the resurrection of the flesh, only boys do. And he can’t ask the boys about it because that would be pervy.
This Is a man who is obsessed with sex. Sex is dirty. Sex is a sin. Send means he gets special attention from the infinite creator of the entire infinite universe, who also is obsessed with sex, although not with war, feeding starving people, or his inability to clearly state his word for everyone and all time. And the beauty of it all is that he gets to sin and repent and resin and repent, and God will always assure him that he’s God‘s special little boy. Because he’s managed to convince himself that he’s got special little boy.
I would say, “scribes! Pharisees! Hypocrites!” but that would be too kind. Because this is not about mere hypocrisy, which I have said repeatedly would be refreshingly honest. This is about moral corruption. He was asking those questions of those girls because he was getting off on it. Which means he was looking with lust at a woman not his wife. Which means he doesn’t believe the product that he’s selling at all. I
Well, it was anti-biblical, as there was only one wife involved and there was consent. Now of he had raided a near by village, took a war bride as he slaughtered her brothers and father, then shaved her head, and only then recorded fucking her, then everything would be ok.
It also needs a course in HUMANITY and HUMANISM, not that they want it. Again, when ideology runs headlong into reality and human beings, it ain't the ideology that gets hurt.
"certain personal behaviors related to my use and retention of private digital content involving my spouse fell short of the standards expected of a credentialed minister"
Wow, talk about "a tangled web!" Peternel's son clearly needs professional help, though I wonder if he will ever deign to get it. And, of course, there is the nearly ubiquitous obsession with sex that characterizes too much of evangelical Christianity in general and both Peternel and Beckwith in particular.
They've made one hell of a mess, and I wonder if they have the means and maturity to clean it up.
I know this a bit OT, but why do they always say "hack" to mean someone using a known password to get into someone's files? That's not hacking! I highly doubt his son knows how to actually hack anything.
Another pious paragon of virtue bites the dust. I will never understand why people willingly delegate an important part of their thinking to the clergy. They are as deeply flawed as every other human being, and if anything they’re bigger hypocrites.
Worse, most clergy have about as much expertise in genuine counseling as could be kept in a Lilliputian thimble, and that sure looks like the case here.
I have a cousin who is an Episcopal Priest. She has a PhD from Yale in some useless subject, and she engages in counseling. By any objective standard, she’s a nut case.
Bloody hell. To think of the level of trust some people place in priests. The mind doth truly boggle.
If these folks STILL haven’t gotten the message after all the arrests, they never will. They’d rather go through life with eyewear that filters out anything they don’t want to see.
Once got reprimanded privately by a pastor as a kid because I didn't take or sign an oath to be sexually "pure" until marriage.
I pointed to the scripture where Jesus told his followers not to take oaths at all as it was a sin. `
What was the pastor's reaction to that?
A tortured explanation for why that didn't really mean what it said.
Good for you!!
Okay, let's move the goalposts yet again!
I can see him using words no good Christian should ever utter. :)
🔥🔥🔥 BURN! 🔥🔥🔥
𝑃𝑒𝑡𝑒𝑟𝑛𝑒𝑙’𝑠 𝑠𝑜𝑛 𝑑𝑖𝑑 𝑠𝑜𝑚𝑒𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑐𝑟𝑖𝑚𝑖𝑛𝑎𝑙𝑙𝑦 ℎ𝑜𝑟𝑟𝑖𝑏𝑙𝑒… 𝑏𝑢𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑎𝑝𝑜𝑙𝑜𝑔𝑦 ℎ𝑒 𝑔𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑎𝑡 𝑐ℎ𝑢𝑟𝑐ℎ 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑐𝑒𝑟𝑛𝑒𝑑 𝑜𝑛𝑙𝑦 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑟𝑖𝑣𝑎𝑡𝑒 𝑣𝑖𝑑𝑒𝑜𝑠 ℎ𝑒 𝑚𝑎𝑑𝑒 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ ℎ𝑖𝑠 𝑤𝑖𝑓𝑒, 𝑣𝑖𝑑𝑒𝑜𝑠 𝑛𝑜 𝑜𝑛𝑒 𝑛𝑒𝑒𝑑𝑒𝑑 𝑡𝑜 𝑘𝑛𝑜𝑤 𝑎𝑏𝑜𝑢𝑡 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑣𝑖𝑑𝑒𝑜𝑠 ℎ𝑒 ℎ𝑎𝑑 𝑛𝑜 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑠𝑜𝑛 𝑡𝑜 𝑎𝑝𝑜𝑙𝑜𝑔𝑖𝑧𝑒 𝑓𝑜𝑟.
Purity culture nonsense does not excuse the horrible acts perpetrated by Peternel's son, but it does help to explain them. Purity culture nonsense blinded Peternel to the criminality lurking within his son, and prevented him from seeking the professional help that his son may have benefited from. This aided his son in doing what he did.
It is the purity culture nonsense that also led Peternel to apologize to hos congregation for having had the audacity to make a 𝗽𝗿𝗶𝘃𝗮𝘁𝗲 recording of consensual sex with his wife, the only type of sex that same purity culture nonsense insists is acceptable.
I don't quite understand how sexy images of yourself and your wife, intended only for your personal use, violates purity culture.
Sex is for reproduction. Titillation is a sin. Sex isn't entertainment!
Do I got that right?
They do allow sex for enjoyment as long as it's within a hetero marriage. But maybe, just maybe, they prohibit recording the act because they might masturbate while looking at it.
For THEM, maybe. For us? Not so much! 😉
Do you understand the phrase: “close your eyes and think of England?”
You’re not supposed to think about sex. As your punishment, I’m going to order you to go stand in the corner for an hour and not think about sex, not even once.
Xtians are for more passionate about S-E-X than they are about Jesus. It seems to occupy their every waking moment.
Jesus and his teachings come in a distant third, if they enter into things at all.
When they are taught that the most forbidden thing they can do is sex that is not between a husband and a wife (they even forbid solo sex), the forbidden fruit desire brings about obsession.
An utterly clear lack of understanding of the nature of human beings.
There is so much to unpack here on my 1st cup of coffee. Hemant simply has no pity on me. But let’s start here. In my best Goofy voice: “Gorsh! Who woulda thunk that a person obsessed about sex would be obsessed about sex? It’s diabolical, I tells ya! Diabolical!”
And the debbil made him do it!
So much to say about this.
First, it’s pretty clear where Junior got his sex obsession. But the real question is where did he get the sex videos? His son, “who was high at the time“, managed to hack into his parents private account. How did he even know about the existence of this private account? How did he know what was in it? Did he know what he would find? Was it really not so private? And why were those so many of them? Not to mention, his mom and dad? I admit, dad is kind of hot in a creepy, decrepit straight boy sort of way, but still, More questions than answers.
Second, the church make sure to refer to Peter-nelly’s “adult” son. Nothing to see here. No children involved. Keep those donations cumming— erm, coming!
“Dude” is obsessed with sexuality and kids among the rest of his obsessions with sexuality and fill in the blank. And somehow, his “adult“ son didn’t manage to escape that. That’s like saying water couldn’t possibly be wet.
And there’s a kicker here to this obsession with sexuality: he has to go through a “restorative“ process. That certainly reads like reeducation to me, but I’m one of those damn leftists. But I remember another prominent pastor who went through a restorative process: Haggard Ted. He went through it if I recall three times, and was declared completely heterosexual. It only took God three times to change him. And of course, sex scandals followed Haggard Ted anyway because Haggard Ted was Haggard Ted. Finally, Ted admitted to being bisexual. Better than being trisexual I guess, because that would mean he would tri anything.
With all of that leads back to my first question: a man obsessed with sex, to the point where he asks teenagers about what they’re doing when they’re making the beast with two backs, or in Christian terms, having a resurrection of the flesh… oh, wait! Girls don’t experience the resurrection of the flesh, only boys do. And he can’t ask the boys about it because that would be pervy.
This Is a man who is obsessed with sex. Sex is dirty. Sex is a sin. Send means he gets special attention from the infinite creator of the entire infinite universe, who also is obsessed with sex, although not with war, feeding starving people, or his inability to clearly state his word for everyone and all time. And the beauty of it all is that he gets to sin and repent and resin and repent, and God will always assure him that he’s God‘s special little boy. Because he’s managed to convince himself that he’s got special little boy.
I would say, “scribes! Pharisees! Hypocrites!” but that would be too kind. Because this is not about mere hypocrisy, which I have said repeatedly would be refreshingly honest. This is about moral corruption. He was asking those questions of those girls because he was getting off on it. Which means he was looking with lust at a woman not his wife. Which means he doesn’t believe the product that he’s selling at all. I
Well, it was anti-biblical, as there was only one wife involved and there was consent. Now of he had raided a near by village, took a war bride as he slaughtered her brothers and father, then shaved her head, and only then recorded fucking her, then everything would be ok.
Christianity desperately needs a secular course in sex education. The church is letting them down and doing them a grave disservice.
It also needs a course in HUMANITY and HUMANISM, not that they want it. Again, when ideology runs headlong into reality and human beings, it ain't the ideology that gets hurt.
The very first lesson in that course should be that women, children, and POCs are all actually people.
We see that. If they don't, it's because they've been taught NOT TO.
Re porn: "That presumably refers to people who watch it or are addicted to it."
As far as they are concerned, if you watch so much as one porn video, you are addicted to porn.
So much porn in their holy book. They must be addicted to porn.
And not even good porn! You can tell it's an addiction because they've just gotta have that fix, no matter how poor the quality.
"certain personal behaviors related to my use and retention of private digital content involving my spouse fell short of the standards expected of a credentialed minister"
Yer darn tootin'. There was no pool boy involved.
👁️👁️👁️
Lol, it's always the sanctimonious ones.
Wow, talk about "a tangled web!" Peternel's son clearly needs professional help, though I wonder if he will ever deign to get it. And, of course, there is the nearly ubiquitous obsession with sex that characterizes too much of evangelical Christianity in general and both Peternel and Beckwith in particular.
They've made one hell of a mess, and I wonder if they have the means and maturity to clean it up.
They are mostly concerned with other people's sex lives.
[wry grin] Big surprise, right? 😝
He'll probably go through AG therapy, so he won't get the help he needs.
Not enough Kleenex and old socks in the world is my guess.
They clearly hung him out to dry, so unless it’s provided by the prison system, I seriously doubt it
https://ibb.co/prBzYXxB
Shouldn't she be conducting that singalong with a metal ruler in one hand?
Yes and I expect there should also be bleeding knuckles on the children.
That’s just bizarre, but then, so is their whole attitude to sex and relationships. SMDH
My first (uncharitable) thought was: did the wife consent to being filmed?
And how much cajoling did it take if she did? Years of wearing her down to finally agree to the tapings.
A reasonable concern to raise, considering.
OT - Webb vs Hubble
https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap260226.html
Sharpless and the Mind Flayer
https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap260227.html
Does anyone else see the seahorse in Sharpless?
Mind Flayer?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illithid#/media/File:Illithid_Sorcerer.png
I see the seahorsey (left of center, right?)
Yes.
I know this a bit OT, but why do they always say "hack" to mean someone using a known password to get into someone's files? That's not hacking! I highly doubt his son knows how to actually hack anything.
OT - Too true
https://featureassets.gocomics.com/assets/78e01d10e8ea013ebd01005056a9545d?optimizer=image&width=1200&quality=85
Spot on!
I was honestly surprised when I read that given how the strip is a bit right-wing.
If "Shoe" is a right-wing strip, it's at least a FUNNY right-wing strip!
Where did you get that?
MacNelly was an admitted conservative.
And after that, Secretary of War! 😝