Yet in the same narratives, when his disciple uses one of the two swords they have, he rebukes him and heals the victim of violence, so that particular verse is either contradictory or Jesus was still debating whether or not he was going to kill them all to save himself or surrender peacefully or it was written in response to a claim that Jesus wasn't so peaceful because some of his followers were armed or some other reason entirely.
Who knows? Overall though, the narrative presents a guy who is generally non-violent.
Cherry picking, blah. Jesus is clearly telling the disciples to get ready to travel, not to go out and murder people. And literally two verses later, when the disciples figure out they have two swords between the 12 of them, Jesus tells them that's sufficient.
It's possible to glean pretty much any political position imaginable from the Bible, including the four gospels. Everyone chooses the bits that support their viewpint.
There is plenty of contradictory material in the bible, but there's never been much dispute about Jesus preaching a generalized earthly nonviolence. Heck that's why the early church spent a thousand years developing Just War theory - because even in the 300s, they confronted the problem of justifying the violence they wanted to do when Jesus was so obviously against it.
Romans 13 is manifestly not about nations going to war; it's telling citizens to pay their taxes. The evildoers thing is about a ruler punishing their countrymen for doing evil. The Iranian government, being neither US citizens nor US residents, doesn't fall under POTUS' authority.
But there's no secular international law that people agree on in an analogous way that the vast majority of, say, Americans, would agree the constitution governs the US. Even if the Trump administration were absolutely right about responding to an imminent threat of attack, it is still absurd to claim that POTUS has a Romans 13 right to bomb Iranian sites for building up forces for an attack on Israel. He isn't their ruler, and another country gathering forces isn't violating any law we all recognize.
Saying that Trump understands the bible better than Pope Leo is pretty much like saying a five-year-old knows more about Saturn than Neil deGrasse Tyson. To this day, I doubt Trump could cite a single bible verse, regardless of context, and while I don't know exactly how conversant Leo is with that tome, there can be little doubt but that his familiarity with it is considerable. Once again, Jeffries is smooching up to Trump, mostly because that's what he and too many other of his ilk do: associate with power and hope that some of it rubs off.
I doubt Trumpyboy has ever read the Bible or had it read to him! As for understanding the Bible, how can someone understand its message when its message is so garble.
"MAGA pastor Robert Jeffress insisted that Donald Trump understands the Bible better than Pope Leo"
He's not wrong. Nobody understands pure bullshit better than tRump. His entire miserable life is unmitigated bullshit. He deserves the Nobel Prize in Bullshit.
Robert Jeffress is a profoundly stupid little man who pledged his unconditional love to the most corrupt, incompetent and grotesquely immoral President in American history. No matter how wrong he gets it, he expects he putrid religiosity to be deferred to at all times. Jeffress demonstrates the disconnect between religion and morality about as well as it can be done.
Oh no, they do care about "Christianity" but they are going to rename it Trumpity after he dies. They will be known as "Trumpettes". Of course this is much more likely if he is assassinated by "The Deep State".
Interesting to note that whenever actual christians quote from the actual teachings of their Jesus, MAGAgelicals like Jeffress crash out. Just shows how authentic both their alleged faith and their knowledge of the buy bull is.
Who knew that Jesus was actually the Prince of War and that the other title was actually woke bullshit.
𝐴𝑛𝑑 𝑙𝑒𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑜𝑛𝑒 𝑤ℎ𝑜 ℎ𝑎𝑠 𝑛𝑜 𝑠𝑤𝑜𝑟𝑑 𝑠𝑒𝑙𝑙 ℎ𝑖𝑠 𝑐𝑙𝑜𝑎𝑘 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑏𝑢𝑦 𝑜𝑛𝑒.
-- Luke 22:36
Some "prince of peace," eh?
Yet in the same narratives, when his disciple uses one of the two swords they have, he rebukes him and heals the victim of violence, so that particular verse is either contradictory or Jesus was still debating whether or not he was going to kill them all to save himself or surrender peacefully or it was written in response to a claim that Jesus wasn't so peaceful because some of his followers were armed or some other reason entirely.
Who knows? Overall though, the narrative presents a guy who is generally non-violent.
Unless you're a fig tree.
Then fuck you.
Cherry picking, blah. Jesus is clearly telling the disciples to get ready to travel, not to go out and murder people. And literally two verses later, when the disciples figure out they have two swords between the 12 of them, Jesus tells them that's sufficient.
It's possible to glean pretty much any political position imaginable from the Bible, including the four gospels. Everyone chooses the bits that support their viewpint.
That is why you don't choose one-verse bits.
There is plenty of contradictory material in the bible, but there's never been much dispute about Jesus preaching a generalized earthly nonviolence. Heck that's why the early church spent a thousand years developing Just War theory - because even in the 300s, they confronted the problem of justifying the violence they wanted to do when Jesus was so obviously against it.
Pastor Jerkface shows it is he that doesn't understand the bible. He certainly doesn't follow Jesus' teachings.
He's a professional cherry-picker. He understands the bits that confirm his bloodlust and bigotry. The rest? Not so much.
𝐵𝑢𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑟𝑜𝑙𝑒 𝑜𝑓 𝑔𝑜𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑛𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝑖𝑠 𝑡𝑜 𝑝𝑟𝑜𝑡𝑒𝑐𝑡 𝑐𝑖𝑡𝑖𝑧𝑒𝑛𝑠 𝑓𝑟𝑜𝑚 𝑒𝑣𝑖𝑙𝑑𝑜𝑒𝑟𝑠, 𝑎𝑐𝑐𝑜𝑟𝑑𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑡𝑜 𝑅𝑜𝑚𝑎𝑛𝑠 13
Romans 13 is manifestly not about nations going to war; it's telling citizens to pay their taxes. The evildoers thing is about a ruler punishing their countrymen for doing evil. The Iranian government, being neither US citizens nor US residents, doesn't fall under POTUS' authority.
According to Trump, everything falls under His authority.
Let’s see him tell that to Vlad Putin and Xi Jinping.
Yep. That’s Verses 6-7. Verses 1-5 teaches that believers are to obey all secular laws and authorities and why they are not supposed to cause strife.
But there's no secular international law that people agree on in an analogous way that the vast majority of, say, Americans, would agree the constitution governs the US. Even if the Trump administration were absolutely right about responding to an imminent threat of attack, it is still absurd to claim that POTUS has a Romans 13 right to bomb Iranian sites for building up forces for an attack on Israel. He isn't their ruler, and another country gathering forces isn't violating any law we all recognize.
Of course Trump understands the bible better than the pope. Leo hasn't met the two Corinthians!
Trump is a functionally illiterate sack of shit. 💩
Laughable.
I can't laugh at it. Not certain I ever COULD laugh at it, because I see nothing funny and a whole lot tragic and dangerous about this whole business.
Saying that Trump understands the bible better than Pope Leo is pretty much like saying a five-year-old knows more about Saturn than Neil deGrasse Tyson. To this day, I doubt Trump could cite a single bible verse, regardless of context, and while I don't know exactly how conversant Leo is with that tome, there can be little doubt but that his familiarity with it is considerable. Once again, Jeffries is smooching up to Trump, mostly because that's what he and too many other of his ilk do: associate with power and hope that some of it rubs off.
And the show goes on...
Jeffress should ask how people in both Trump’s admins fared by hitching their wagons to the Bronzer Blob.
I doubt Trumpyboy has ever read the Bible or had it read to him! As for understanding the Bible, how can someone understand its message when its message is so garble.
Trump would fumble reading “The Pet Goat.”
I never thought this country would elect someone more stupid than dumbya. I was so wrong.
Yes, you were, but you are not alone. Plenty of people thought that a person couldn’t be as dumb as any of the Bush family!
Trump’s lackeys give him graphics instead of briefings because he’s so damn stupid.
There is one word he can read: "Trump"!
True.
Still, I suspect that when Trump looks at something as innocuous as a "No Littering" sign, he simply sees, "TrumpTRUMPTrump".
Maybe that's why he is obsessed with renaming everything after himself, so he can recognize at least one word on the signs.
Time for a bible duel.
Preferably with both sides using those big Catholic family bibles that would cause concussions.
Robert Jeffries would have been defending slaveholders 160 years ago.
It wouldn't surprise me if he wanted slavery to return.
"MAGA pastor Robert Jeffress insisted that Donald Trump understands the Bible better than Pope Leo"
He's not wrong. Nobody understands pure bullshit better than tRump. His entire miserable life is unmitigated bullshit. He deserves the Nobel Prize in Bullshit.
Put it that way, I guess Trump is the emperor of shit, due to the fact that he is like a mushroom: IN THE DARK AND EXTREMELY FULL OF SHIT!
RJ worships a false idol. Were is god real, YHVH would strike him dead. And after death, Jesus would dropkick his burnt corpse to hell for eternity.
Robert Jeffress is a profoundly stupid little man who pledged his unconditional love to the most corrupt, incompetent and grotesquely immoral President in American history. No matter how wrong he gets it, he expects he putrid religiosity to be deferred to at all times. Jeffress demonstrates the disconnect between religion and morality about as well as it can be done.
He understands it’s BS, but beyond that he can’t tell the difference between Jesus and Jose (or doctors).
Oh no, they do care about "Christianity" but they are going to rename it Trumpity after he dies. They will be known as "Trumpettes". Of course this is much more likely if he is assassinated by "The Deep State".
Southern Baptists (of which Jeffress is one)=the Republican Party at prayer.
An xtian sect built upon slavery. Jeffress needs to get that boulder out of his own eye before trying to remove the speck from the eye of another.
If trump endorsed slavery ( not a stretch at this point), the maga cult including Jeffries, would be singing its praises.
Interesting to note that whenever actual christians quote from the actual teachings of their Jesus, MAGAgelicals like Jeffress crash out. Just shows how authentic both their alleged faith and their knowledge of the buy bull is.