The people who signed off on this travesty would have gone out of their tiny little minds at the mere suggestion any religion other than their own be allowed to hold their children captive for a day and indoctrinate them. It isn't limited to Christianity, because religious organizations across the board expose the weakness of their message by their obsessive need to indoctrinate children before they've reached the age of reason. Every administrator who approved of this needs to be terminated immediately, and this church sued out of existence.
Can we arrange to get the Satanic Temple a fun day of presenting their views now? Seems fair to me. Then Hindu day, Buddhist day, Tao Day, etc... It's time to remove Christianity from public schools. They can foot the bill for a private charter school if they wish.
I liked the part about preaching to the girls about rape and forgiving the offender... Seriously the kids thought they were going to a college fair and instead were taken to cult central. One case is manageable, but the number of church/state infractions by Dominionists and other reichwing religionists is going to overwhelm the court system. That, of course, is their plan.
"You will need decades of therapy after being raped, you will likely drop out of school and struggle with healthy interpersonal relationships for the rest of your life, but won't you think of that poor boy who raped you? Forgive him and don't press charges so that he doesn't lose his bright and successful future!" These assholes think Brock Turner's sentence was too heavy.
Best example of rapists and other abusers using forgiveness as a copout, a form of mind manipulation to get away with their crimes against women and girls other than threats, gas lighting, and intimidation, indicating that they love to commit such a sin so much that they don't want to be caught by the police, held accountable, be handcuffed, rights read, tried, convicted, and sentence to rot in prison for many years for that said crime.
This asshole judge paid a just price for his misogyny. Did he still enjoyed steak after he was fired ? The brock turner sexual assault case was not the only one he voluntary botched.
Let's not forget judge mckeon on Montana who let an incestuous father got practically scot free because his wife, mother and pastor begged him too. No one spoke for the actual victim, a 12 years old girl.
Forgiving the rapist might be possible for a very, very few victims. The rest is traumatised. A few are telling themselves a story about being the seducer and not the victim.
That's actually the reason to forgive, to resolve the anger, fear and injury to yourself so you can go forwards. The criminal is irrelevant although making them feel something close to what they inflicted on you could be useful. Seems like there are a lot of rapists in the Republican Party, Catholic Church and Evangelical Leadership.
Why one of those excitable young boys could become a Supreme Court justice that will one day vote to deprive women autonomy over their bodies. Take it like a lady.
When I told my father that his “adopted son” (who was just the next door neighbor boy that he took a shine to) had raped me when I was 6-7 years old, he said the past was past and why should I bring ancient history up all these years afterwards.
That 'forgiving the rapist' crap makes me furious. It's the same kind of thing the Duggar girls were forced into after their own brother sexually assaulted them. It's sick and disgusting in the way it hand waves the girls' trauma in favor of making a rapist feel better. This is a cancerous, vile cult.
So they kidnapped these high school students who thought they were going to a college fair and brought them to a church which in my eyes isn't a church but a cult and the school district was okay with this. WTFF?!? SHUT DOWN DAY OF HOPE AND MAKE EVERYBODY INVOLVED WITH THE KIDNAPPINGS HELD RESPONSIBLE. WTFF?!? Thats what Cults do. SHUT THEM DOWN! NOW!!!
Divine sanction. That's where Christianity gets it wrong. I guess God told them it's okay to kidnap high school students. Well then, my bad! JUST KIDDING.
They obviously are hard-core xians and believe sincerely that they are saving people from burning in Hell. It is not enough to make me feel they deserves some sympathy.
I don't think you're wrong to use the word kidnapping! I mean, with maybe some minor exceptions for seniors depending on the school, high school students aren't free to get up and leave. So if you are taking them somewhere other than where you said you were taking them, and then they aren't free to leave, then how is that not kidnapping?!
Grooming a captive young audience. And not a single drag queen in sight.
Sue the district out of their loafers for allowing this to take place. Sue the church and anyone/everyone involved in their "Day of Hope" for false advertising, if nothing else (I suppose it would be too much to ask for arrest warrants for kidnapping).
In Australia they have drag queens reading to children in libraries and there is not much backlash. I would rather have my child hang out with drag queens then be tricked into going to this Christian Cult Crap.
Elsewhere on the thread, we have a tone troll telling us how we're just like the psycho evangelists. False equivalence, much? He gripes that we are somehow infantalizing people by daring to criticize them for doing blatantly illegal things. Oh, and of course he trashes a non-cisgender 18-year-old.
A Christaian Nationalist board using government resources to force children into their narrow, bigoted, and 𝘁𝗼𝘅𝗶𝗰 ideology of male and female roles. How unsurprising. The district knew all along that they were violating the Establishment clause. Why else would they pretend it was a "college fair"? A college fair implies representatives from a bunch of colleges trying to convince kids to apply to them, not purity culture and toxic masculinity speeches coupled with nonstop Jesus.
Their excuses are weak, and I am glad the judge saw right through them. Especially the Title IX excuse. Sure, we are guilty of sex discrimination, but since there wasn't any active 𝘩𝘢𝘳𝘳𝘢𝘴𝘴𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘵 we didn't do anything wrong. What. The . Actual. Fuck.
I suspect the girl who wanted to take shop in this school district had to threaten a lawsuit, and pity the boy who wanted to take Home Ec. (Possibly because he thought it would be a good way to meet girls)
No, because USA and religion is so weird to me. Anyway, when I was at school some decades ago, we did schooltrips to various religious houses. I remember some of them: Xian, Jewish, Buddhists, Islam and Hindu. It was to see how different religions was functioning and to learn the similarities and differences, not to be proselytised too. We also learned about smaller religions, including Norse of course. Back at school we discussed what we had experienced.
You can it through some of Hemant's posts. There is several stories where an allegedly religiously neutral program was in fact a christian one, and how often it was shut down once Satanists (a religion for the IRS, so a religion for the law) wanted to participate.
I have noticed. My point is that it is possible to teach about various religions without proselytising. This is not a problem in the Scandinavian countries and some more of the European ones. The problem is with countries like USA, Saudi Arabia and other like that.
Gee, am I really supposed to be surprised about this? A church-sponsored meeting, wherein they use coercion, goading, intimidation tactics, plus the usual offer of a free lunch to attempt to convert kids to their nonsense. What I find enormously encouraging is the number of people who reacted to this farce with outrage and called out the school and the sponsors of the event on it. Based on what we've heard from Hemant, such reactions are happening more and more often.
And while the sponsoring church may not learn from it, that at least some parents and kids aren't tolerating it is a damned good thing.
As a conservative, I read this story and was shocked. Shocked I say. I can't believe Louisiana, a good and god fearing state, still has public schools. I thought we ended that failed socialist experiment decades ago. What good is being born wealthy if other people are allowed opportunities? If they wanted to have those, then they should have foresight to be born wealthier. That's why we need school choice, so that the schools can choose who to educate. We should be less outraged at where the public school are taking the kids, and more outraged that there are public schools.
I'm with ya! Just think of it, 2,100 attended and like 21 complained. Buncha sore loosers if you ask me. This is America! Majority rules! Those whiney ingrates need to sit down and STFU.
Illustrative of how bad off Christianity is lately. They have to lie, deceive and even kidnap people to deliver their message and won't allow their hostages to leave.
Christians are thugs. Criminals. Yet WE'RE the evil ones.
Since when is a religious indoctrination seminar a college and career fair? When the babble trolls do it! Blatantly unconstitutional, definitely traumatic and an unholy alliance between the school district and the 29:11 scammers. Best wishes on the lawsuit.
If lies were bleeped out every time tRump told one, we'd never have to hear his grating voice ever again. Then we would hear a constant barrage of "BLEEP BLEEP BLEEP.
They love to wage wars, and they'll throw barrels of money at Haliburton et al, but they bristle at the thought of having to pay rank and file troops regular wages, much less any disability or medical expenses. And respect? How ridiculous. One does not respect cannon fodder.
I hate this shitty attitude of theirs more than I know how to express. My dad was a WWII veteran who was appalled at the way Vietnam Veterans were treated, and I'm quite sure he would be outraged at this level contempt openly coming from the top.
Seems like old news. This is Catholic charity? This is what is wrong with the law *assuming* a house of worship is a charity. Like every other charity they should have to prove it.
After yesterday's football fiasco (worst UW loss in years), I happy to report that last night's two hockey games had much better results.
The Thunderbirds beat their hated rivals the Winterhawks 6-5, despite the refs giving Portland 6 power plays (they scored on 3) and Seattle only one (no PP goal. All 6 of our goals were even strengthed). Portland also gooned it up the last minute of play, the result of which was a bench-clearing donnybrook between the two teams that involved everyone but the goalies. No love lost there. It was ridiculous for the refs to assess penalites when the game was already over.
The Kraken beat the Wild 5-4, but it took a shootout (I hate those. A hockey game should never be decided by a skills competition). Since we scored 2 goals and they scored one in that shootout, the score was actually 6-5, but only the winning goal counts.
Portland wore their cheap Kraken knock-off jerseys. These guys can't come up with their own designs. For the longest time, their jerseys were a rip-off the Chicago Blackhawks. And how the hell do they rate TWO arenas in Portland to play in?
The people who signed off on this travesty would have gone out of their tiny little minds at the mere suggestion any religion other than their own be allowed to hold their children captive for a day and indoctrinate them. It isn't limited to Christianity, because religious organizations across the board expose the weakness of their message by their obsessive need to indoctrinate children before they've reached the age of reason. Every administrator who approved of this needs to be terminated immediately, and this church sued out of existence.
"...their obsessive need to indoctrinate children before they've reached the age of reason." Without this, religion would fizzle out and die.
Can we arrange to get the Satanic Temple a fun day of presenting their views now? Seems fair to me. Then Hindu day, Buddhist day, Tao Day, etc... It's time to remove Christianity from public schools. They can foot the bill for a private charter school if they wish.
I liked the part about preaching to the girls about rape and forgiving the offender... Seriously the kids thought they were going to a college fair and instead were taken to cult central. One case is manageable, but the number of church/state infractions by Dominionists and other reichwing religionists is going to overwhelm the court system. That, of course, is their plan.
"You will need decades of therapy after being raped, you will likely drop out of school and struggle with healthy interpersonal relationships for the rest of your life, but won't you think of that poor boy who raped you? Forgive him and don't press charges so that he doesn't lose his bright and successful future!" These assholes think Brock Turner's sentence was too heavy.
Best example of rapists and other abusers using forgiveness as a copout, a form of mind manipulation to get away with their crimes against women and girls other than threats, gas lighting, and intimidation, indicating that they love to commit such a sin so much that they don't want to be caught by the police, held accountable, be handcuffed, rights read, tried, convicted, and sentence to rot in prison for many years for that said crime.
And they’re willing to keep anyone else from having to face consequences for that sin.
This asshole judge paid a just price for his misogyny. Did he still enjoyed steak after he was fired ? The brock turner sexual assault case was not the only one he voluntary botched.
Let's not forget judge mckeon on Montana who let an incestuous father got practically scot free because his wife, mother and pastor begged him too. No one spoke for the actual victim, a 12 years old girl.
Forgiving the rapist might be possible for a very, very few victims. The rest is traumatised. A few are telling themselves a story about being the seducer and not the victim.
The ones who forgive are still traumatized. Maybe forgiveness, for some of them, is just a way of letting go of the anger before it consumes them.
Of course. My wording in that comment is not correct enough.
That's actually the reason to forgive, to resolve the anger, fear and injury to yourself so you can go forwards. The criminal is irrelevant although making them feel something close to what they inflicted on you could be useful. Seems like there are a lot of rapists in the Republican Party, Catholic Church and Evangelical Leadership.
Why one of those excitable young boys could become a Supreme Court justice that will one day vote to deprive women autonomy over their bodies. Take it like a lady.
Makes me wonder if The Federalist Society was involved in planning the event.
When I told my father that his “adopted son” (who was just the next door neighbor boy that he took a shine to) had raped me when I was 6-7 years old, he said the past was past and why should I bring ancient history up all these years afterwards.
That 'forgiving the rapist' crap makes me furious. It's the same kind of thing the Duggar girls were forced into after their own brother sexually assaulted them. It's sick and disgusting in the way it hand waves the girls' trauma in favor of making a rapist feel better. This is a cancerous, vile cult.
I certainly do believe that a victim can forgive an offender, before, during, or even after the offender's head is stove in.
So they kidnapped these high school students who thought they were going to a college fair and brought them to a church which in my eyes isn't a church but a cult and the school district was okay with this. WTFF?!? SHUT DOWN DAY OF HOPE AND MAKE EVERYBODY INVOLVED WITH THE KIDNAPPINGS HELD RESPONSIBLE. WTFF?!? Thats what Cults do. SHUT THEM DOWN! NOW!!!
+++ There is a pervasive mentality among conservative Christians that it's always okay if they do it because they're operating under divine sanction.
Divine sanction. That's where Christianity gets it wrong. I guess God told them it's okay to kidnap high school students. Well then, my bad! JUST KIDDING.
+++ It's a real thing. Once people become convinced they have divine sanction for their behavior, they're capable of any horror.
I know divine sanction is real in the minds of those who believe in it-- the Crusades for example. Propaganda garbage.
+++
They obviously are hard-core xians and believe sincerely that they are saving people from burning in Hell. It is not enough to make me feel they deserves some sympathy.
They kidnapped my child? They can get sympathy in prison.
Nah, not there either.
I don't think you're wrong to use the word kidnapping! I mean, with maybe some minor exceptions for seniors depending on the school, high school students aren't free to get up and leave. So if you are taking them somewhere other than where you said you were taking them, and then they aren't free to leave, then how is that not kidnapping?!
Grooming a captive young audience. And not a single drag queen in sight.
Sue the district out of their loafers for allowing this to take place. Sue the church and anyone/everyone involved in their "Day of Hope" for false advertising, if nothing else (I suppose it would be too much to ask for arrest warrants for kidnapping).
Drag queens are evil you know.
In Australia they have drag queens reading to children in libraries and there is not much backlash. I would rather have my child hang out with drag queens then be tricked into going to this Christian Cult Crap.
Kneel before Priscilla!
Congratulations. It's your turn today
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DPjU1sZTERk
Elsewhere on the thread, we have a tone troll telling us how we're just like the psycho evangelists. False equivalence, much? He gripes that we are somehow infantalizing people by daring to criticize them for doing blatantly illegal things. Oh, and of course he trashes a non-cisgender 18-year-old.
I found the person you've speak about and reported. He needs to get lost and take his Russian trolling trash with him.
Reported to Hemant or used the "report" button ? The latter doesn't work.
If the former, trolly won't be long for this newsletter.
I have a draft ready to be sent once everyone who wants to have fun got it.
They’re so pathetic.
𝑇ℎ𝑒 𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝑤𝑎𝑠𝑛’𝑡 𝑠𝑜𝑚𝑒 𝑎𝑐𝑐𝑖𝑑𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑛𝑜 𝑜𝑛𝑒 𝑐𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑑𝑖𝑐𝑡𝑒𝑑—𝑙𝑖𝑘𝑒 𝑖𝑛𝑣𝑖𝑡𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑎 𝑠𝑝𝑒𝑎𝑘𝑒𝑟 𝑡𝑜 𝑡𝑒𝑙𝑙 𝑘𝑖𝑑𝑠 𝑡𝑜 𝑎𝑣𝑜𝑖𝑑 𝑑𝑟𝑢𝑔𝑠, 𝑜𝑛𝑙𝑦 𝑡𝑜 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑠𝑝𝑒𝑎𝑘𝑒𝑟 𝑔𝑜 𝑜𝑓𝑓-𝑠𝑐𝑟𝑖𝑝𝑡 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑡𝑒𝑙𝑙 𝑘𝑖𝑑𝑠 𝑡𝑜 𝑓𝑖𝑛𝑑 𝐽𝑒𝑠𝑢𝑠. 𝐼𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑠 𝑐𝑎𝑠𝑒, 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑜𝑡𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑖𝑎𝑙 ℎ𝑎𝑟𝑚 𝑤𝑎𝑠 𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑦 𝑜𝑏𝑣𝑖𝑜𝑢𝑠 𝑏𝑒𝑓𝑜𝑟𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝑡𝑜𝑜𝑘 𝑝𝑙𝑎𝑐𝑒.
A Christaian Nationalist board using government resources to force children into their narrow, bigoted, and 𝘁𝗼𝘅𝗶𝗰 ideology of male and female roles. How unsurprising. The district knew all along that they were violating the Establishment clause. Why else would they pretend it was a "college fair"? A college fair implies representatives from a bunch of colleges trying to convince kids to apply to them, not purity culture and toxic masculinity speeches coupled with nonstop Jesus.
Their excuses are weak, and I am glad the judge saw right through them. Especially the Title IX excuse. Sure, we are guilty of sex discrimination, but since there wasn't any active 𝘩𝘢𝘳𝘳𝘢𝘴𝘴𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘵 we didn't do anything wrong. What. The . Actual. Fuck.
With pretending it was a "college fair" they are learning the kids that lying is totally okay and accepted.
I suspect the girl who wanted to take shop in this school district had to threaten a lawsuit, and pity the boy who wanted to take Home Ec. (Possibly because he thought it would be a good way to meet girls)
The reason there are not any male seamstresses is due to the fact they cannot mend straight.
Can you imagine the furor if they’d been taken to a mosque or a synagogue?
No, because USA and religion is so weird to me. Anyway, when I was at school some decades ago, we did schooltrips to various religious houses. I remember some of them: Xian, Jewish, Buddhists, Islam and Hindu. It was to see how different religions was functioning and to learn the similarities and differences, not to be proselytised too. We also learned about smaller religions, including Norse of course. Back at school we discussed what we had experienced.
You can it through some of Hemant's posts. There is several stories where an allegedly religiously neutral program was in fact a christian one, and how often it was shut down once Satanists (a religion for the IRS, so a religion for the law) wanted to participate.
I have noticed. My point is that it is possible to teach about various religions without proselytising. This is not a problem in the Scandinavian countries and some more of the European ones. The problem is with countries like USA, Saudi Arabia and other like that.
Especially furious that their kids will perform pilates five times a day.
Gee, am I really supposed to be surprised about this? A church-sponsored meeting, wherein they use coercion, goading, intimidation tactics, plus the usual offer of a free lunch to attempt to convert kids to their nonsense. What I find enormously encouraging is the number of people who reacted to this farce with outrage and called out the school and the sponsors of the event on it. Based on what we've heard from Hemant, such reactions are happening more and more often.
And while the sponsoring church may not learn from it, that at least some parents and kids aren't tolerating it is a damned good thing.
The only thing the sponsoring church will "learn" is that the government is "persecuting" them for Jesusing.
Sadly, I agree.
As a conservative, I read this story and was shocked. Shocked I say. I can't believe Louisiana, a good and god fearing state, still has public schools. I thought we ended that failed socialist experiment decades ago. What good is being born wealthy if other people are allowed opportunities? If they wanted to have those, then they should have foresight to be born wealthier. That's why we need school choice, so that the schools can choose who to educate. We should be less outraged at where the public school are taking the kids, and more outraged that there are public schools.
Of course. How are we going to have moral superiority if people are pointing to freedom FROM religion?
And the root of that problem is that people understand what words mean. If I were in charge that would no longer be the case.
I'm with ya! Just think of it, 2,100 attended and like 21 complained. Buncha sore loosers if you ask me. This is America! Majority rules! Those whiney ingrates need to sit down and STFU.
Illustrative of how bad off Christianity is lately. They have to lie, deceive and even kidnap people to deliver their message and won't allow their hostages to leave.
Christians are thugs. Criminals. Yet WE'RE the evil ones.
Mouais, c'est pas nouveau.
Nothing under the sun is.
Lately?
The "lately" part is Christians fleeing the religion in ever-increasing numbers.
Since when is a religious indoctrination seminar a college and career fair? When the babble trolls do it! Blatantly unconstitutional, definitely traumatic and an unholy alliance between the school district and the 29:11 scammers. Best wishes on the lawsuit.
OT: I'm outta here for a while. My gal and I are doing the Red Coat thing, working the Futureland Conference at the Allen Theater.
Seeya when we seeya!
I have my performance tonight too. Break a leg!
The circus is in town? : )
That's her secret Cap, the circus is always in town.
> "the Red Coat thing"
18th century British soldiers?
Ushers and assistants for the theaters of Playhouse Square! We're volunteers supporting the second largest theater district after New York City!
And I was thinking that Butlin's would be closed by now.
Have fun.
Thanks! We usually do!
Ah. Dans ce cas, je retire ce que j'ai dit.
😝😝😝 😁
Aren't you supposed to have fun with your querida ? Drop the phone, Mister 😁
I'm on break. Been standing in front of the Outcalt Theater for the last 90 minutes. My back needed a rest.
Break a leg, :)
If lies were bleeped out every time tRump told one, we'd never have to hear his grating voice ever again. Then we would hear a constant barrage of "BLEEP BLEEP BLEEP.
I think it would be more of a continuous, uninterrupted tone.
Cancelled.
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Reminds me of Flat Earthers referring to themselves as a global organization.
Talk about the arguments of climate change deniers being "all wet."
And they want this vet to vote for them?
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They only like dead troops. Like fetuses they can't speak for themselves, so you can make up whatever fits your narrative and say they'd say it.
They love to wage wars, and they'll throw barrels of money at Haliburton et al, but they bristle at the thought of having to pay rank and file troops regular wages, much less any disability or medical expenses. And respect? How ridiculous. One does not respect cannon fodder.
I hate this shitty attitude of theirs more than I know how to express. My dad was a WWII veteran who was appalled at the way Vietnam Veterans were treated, and I'm quite sure he would be outraged at this level contempt openly coming from the top.
OT: Kidnapping and child trafficking.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/vatican-sent-children-born-out-of-wedlock-to-america-as-orphans-for-adoption/ar-AA1sctJi?
I guess that is kinder than drowning newborns in cesspits.
Oh these were supposed to grow up to be good little soldiers for the Vatican army.
Seems like old news. This is Catholic charity? This is what is wrong with the law *assuming* a house of worship is a charity. Like every other charity they should have to prove it.
OT: Anyone want to bet against Barron charging money to piss on Donnie's grave?
Crypto.
OTOT
After yesterday's football fiasco (worst UW loss in years), I happy to report that last night's two hockey games had much better results.
The Thunderbirds beat their hated rivals the Winterhawks 6-5, despite the refs giving Portland 6 power plays (they scored on 3) and Seattle only one (no PP goal. All 6 of our goals were even strengthed). Portland also gooned it up the last minute of play, the result of which was a bench-clearing donnybrook between the two teams that involved everyone but the goalies. No love lost there. It was ridiculous for the refs to assess penalites when the game was already over.
The Kraken beat the Wild 5-4, but it took a shootout (I hate those. A hockey game should never be decided by a skills competition). Since we scored 2 goals and they scored one in that shootout, the score was actually 6-5, but only the winning goal counts.
Well, our rich guys pissing around in yachts seem to have beaten some rich pommy guys pissing around in yachts.
To add:
Portland wore their cheap Kraken knock-off jerseys. These guys can't come up with their own designs. For the longest time, their jerseys were a rip-off the Chicago Blackhawks. And how the hell do they rate TWO arenas in Portland to play in?
Portland has more suckers?
Might explain why "Portlandia" ran for 8 seasons.
I wouldn't waste my urine on him.
I might, however, round up some dogs and cats from Springfield, OH and get them to "do their business" on that grave.
I'd pay a small sum.
Pay toilets used to be a thing in the U.S.
Hence the expression – "spend a penny". I haven't seen one for years.
I don't think I've seen one since I was 6 or 7 so about 45 years.